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Title: What The Cathechism of the Catholic Church Actually Says on Immigration Might Surprise You
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URL Source: http://libertyfight.com/2015/Catech ... lic_Church_on_immigration.html
Published: Sep 24, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-09-24 11:50:15 by Artisan
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Comments: 24

There seems to be many radical left-wing bishops, priests and clergy within the Catholic church who are constantly chiding us that we need to welcome everyone into the United States, without limits. But what does the actual Catechism of the Catholic Church, which Catholics must adhere to, state about immigration? it might surprise you.

The hierarchy of the catholic church itself, however, has been infested, sadly with radical open border advocates, who act as if it's immoral for the Unite States to have borders or enforce our sovereignty. This has never been the actual teaching or position of the church. These modernists, or so they're called, have done a great amount of damage to the church, in many ways, yet the battle between the traditionalists and the modernists continues.

That's another issue entirely, for today we will focus on solely immigration. Also, I will post a link to what the U.S. Conference of catholic Bishops says on immigration reform- What they say will shock you too! It shocked me, and I just found this gem this morning! Finally, I will include some statements from Saint Thomas on immigration.

Section 2241 states, in part, "Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, in an August 2013 document, stated, in part, that "The Catholic Catechism instructs the faithful that good government has two duties, both of which must be carried out and neither of which can be ignored... The second duty is to secure one's border and enforce the law for the sake of the common good. Sovereign nations have the right to enforce their laws and all persons must respect the legitimate exercise of this right... Enforcement: The U.S. Catholic Bishops accept the legitimate role of the U.S. government in intercepting unauthorized migrants who attempt to travel to the United States..."

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

"Enforcement: The U.S. Catholic Bishops accept the legitimate role of the U.S. government in intercepting unauthorized migrants who attempt to travel to the United States..."

Put that it your pope-pipe and smoke it.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-24   12:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0)

Rome is no different than any institutional behemoth, alas. The officially stated position's got nothing to do with the actual policy. And open borders for white countries is clearly an key goal of its.

Thanks for sharing this -- useful. "Always welcome the stranger," folks -- even though all Catholic churches still lock their doors at night.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-24   12:56:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: NeoconsNailed, lod, straitgate (#2)

Thanks for sharing this -- useful.

Thanks- I find this very interesting and fascinating. I thought this was so relevent that I made a separate article out of it , currently on the front page of WRH, U.S. Catholic Bishops Shocking Document: The "Duty of Government Is To Secure One's Border And Enforce The Law For The Sake Of The Common Good."

I already knew the teaching of the CCC on this, but the bishop's document was startling, given their common statements to the opposite effect, in the media and in churches on this.

as I wrote,

This morning while writing an article on what the Catechism of the Catholic Church actually teaches about immigration, I found an additional document written by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops which will shock most people. It will come as a pleasant surprise to the traditional paleoconservatives and all those who understand the importance of sovereignty and securing our borders from invasion. As I always try to explain to people, the teaching of the church is sound, and some individual member's misguided opinions, sins, etc. are not what comprises the whole of the Catholic church, or what's called the infallible Magisterium or Teaching Authority of the Catholic Church.

There seems to be many radical left-wing bishops, priests and clergy within the Catholic church who are constantly chiding us that we need to welcome everyone into the United States, without limits. Conservatives and traditional Catholics are not happy with this. The hierarchy of the Catholic Church itself has unfortunately been infested with radical open border advocates, who act as if it's immoral for the United States to have borders or enforce our sovereignty. This has never been the actual teaching or position of the church. These modernists, or so they're called, have done a great amount of damage to the church, in many ways, yet the battle between the traditionalists and the modernists continues.

That's another issue entirely, for today we will focus solely on immigration.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, in a shocking August 2013 document, stated that the DUTY of the U.S. government is to secure the border, enforce the laws, and intercept unauthorized migrants! How this slipped by the alternative media I have no idea, other than not too many alternative/ truth outlets cover the Catholic church in depth. I am proud to say that is what makes LibertyFight.com unique. You can read more about that, and our extensive Catholic archive, below. I will include some statements from Saint Thomas on immigration. The Bishops stated, in part, that "The Catholic Catechism instructs the faithful that good government has two duties, both of which must be carried out and neither of which can be ignored... The second duty is to secure one's border and enforce the law for the sake of the common good. Sovereign nations have the right to enforce their laws and all persons must respect the legitimate exercise of this right... Enforcement: The U.S. Catholic Bishops accept the legitimate role of the U.S. government in intercepting unauthorized migrants who attempt to travel to the United States..."

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"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-24   14:54:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#3)

As with the elites here, what, if anything, do you think can be done to counteract the modernists in the Church.

Can't they see with the failing parishes around this country that something's not right with the current message to the people?

Is there any hope?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-24   15:03:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod, neoconsnailed (#4)

As with the elites here, what, if anything, do you think can be done to counteract the modernists in the Church.

Can't they see with the failing parishes around this country that something's not right with the current message to the people?

Is there any hope?

That's a very good question. Its interesting that I recently went to a church that in the bulletin they mentioned the falling attendance rates, and what to do about it. while at the same time, I happen to know that more traditional Catholic churches - you know, those with traditional pastors who adhere to dress codes, are more devout and pious, have traditional old style music, and even sometimes offer Latin Mass--. are filled to the brim and rolling in money from their loyal flocks. they also don't have altar girls, no communion in the hand, no guitarsor drums, and the church actually looks like a church, not a sterile modernist office building.

These are just some observations ive made. as someone who was born after the controversial Vatican II, I never knew Latin Mass or any of that, but I heard gripes about all the chagces which incidentally, were not actually listed at all in Vatican II Council itself, but were rather implemented by modernists and subversive types. not surprising that's when all the fags started being accepted into the seminaries. and resulted in all the crimes and horrific abuses by the pervs.

as to the solution, I think prayer is number one, since this is a battle between God and satan. and families must educate their children properly and not be so enveloped in the world and the sick culture and modernism.

after Vatican II Pope Paul VI proclaimed 'THE SMOKE OF SATAN HAS ENTERED THE SANCTUARY.". Lots of conspiracy fodder there.

As an interesting aside that you may not know. there are traditionalists, within the church, as I was raised, . they resent all the modernism and errors. but then there is another and completely distinct group which goes even further, and they are called SEDEVACANTISTS. That in Latin means 'empty seat.' They see themselves as pre Vatican 2 catholics, and they sincerely believe that there has been no valid Pope since Vatican II. Mel Gibson and his father Hutton are sedevacantists.

Bishop Richard Williamson, (one of my favorite guys) famous for being arrested for calling out the holohoax, and 9/11, etc., is a traditionalist but is NOT a sedevacantist. matter of fact he regularly, in his weekly email newsletter, tells of the errors of sedevacantism.. namely, that since the gates of hell will not prevail against it, the theory that the seat is vacant is not correct. Here is my B ishop Richard Williamson archives if interested.

Thanks for listening since I know youre not Catholic and probably don't give a shit about nay of this, lol. but it is interesting and a lot of this stuff is unknown and/or misunderstood by outsiders.

The most interesting this about mel Gibson is that the majority of catholics would probably say that he is catholic, when he is not. He is a sedevacantist. Yet the priests and bishops worldwide praised his movie the Passion, promoted it etc. They should ask themselves, why is a sedevacantist, who claims that the post Vatican 2 church is "a wolf in sheeps clothing," (Mel's words not mine) Why is someone like THAT the one making the best stuff that you promote so heavily??? Perhaps they need to clear out the smoke of satan which Pope Paul VI referred to,?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-24   15:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#5)

The main reason that I know anything about it is that one of my best friends, a Lebanese Catholic and his family, were really horrified and disgusted at the outcome of Vatican II.

We discussed religion(s), God, and man, on many occasions.

I miss those conversations and I miss him.

RIP Ken

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-24   16:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#3) (Edited)

You have to work awfully hard as the RCC's PR man, Artisan. We in the alternative media have few illusions left -- the CCB would do this thing as a sop to people like us, mystery solved. Happens over and over with our overlords. Remember Public Law 97-280?

http://www.tommillington.com/Christlegal.htm

That made a huge difference, didn't it. How about Reagan's bravado while running for president -- abolish the IRS etc, "Government doesn't have a problem -- government is the problem!!" They know these placebos will help the sheeple sleep fine at night as they're burgling our family silver.

The RCC is wildly, madly, crazily anti-borders -- and selectively, of course. It hates white countries and wants them to die. Like anything gliberal it idealizes and sanitizes the people it wants to stuff our naberhoods full of. Parishes even prostitute the prayers of the day to it -- repeatedly. Well, that's probably coming down from the diocese or much higher up.

What's lower than that?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-24   19:13:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: NeoconsNailed (#7)

Why won't you use "Preview w/Auto Link"?

Make it easy and simple for the members to go to your recommended sites, please.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-24   19:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod (#8)

We've gone over that and over that -- surely to you.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-24   19:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: NeoconsNailed (#9)

We've gone over that and over that -- surely to you.

Explain why you cannot hit the preview w/auto link button.

It's just to the right of the preview button; can you not see it?

You must choose one or the other to post here; select the correct one for cripes sake.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-24   19:48:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Lod (#10)

We've gone over that and over that -- surely to you.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-24   19:57:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: NeoconsNailed (#11)

Humor me, explain in detail why you refuse to select the correct preview button.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-24   20:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#7)

I don't think I'm a PR man, just calling it like I see it. Judas betrayed Christ, what less can we expect from the flock 2000 years later? If life was fair, Jesus wouldn't have been slaughtered and nailed to a cross. Corruption & sin is human nature, which is why Catholics believe "we have no home here." I just listened to a homily of that title at audiosancto.org.... great stuff. /preech.

As far as my point. We all know that the clergy is largely open border.. wise Catholics can use their own policy document against them. I'm surprised you don't see the value in this gem! It is an infowar after all.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-25   10:43:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod (#12)

In my experience that feature rarely if ever works unless the url is very short. Ill try it now, http:// www.tommillington.com/ Christlegal.htm

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-25   10:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Artisan (#14)

It always works, except with https (you have to delete the s).

You just have to be talented enough to mash Preview w/Auto link.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-09-25   10:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Artisan (#13)

I don't think I'm a PR man, just calling it like I see it. Judas betrayed Christ, what less can we expect from the flock 2000 years later? If life was fair, Jesus wouldn't have been slaughtered and nailed to a cross. Corruption & sin is human nature, which is why Catholics believe "we have no home here."

*********Then you're no better than the Babdists and Church o'Gawders whose theme song is "I'll fly away O Lordy."

As far as my point. We all know that the clergy is largely open border..

********So what's left??? "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?"

wise Catholics can use their own policy document against them. I'm surprised you don't see the value in this gem! It is an infowar after all.

********And as you know, 99.999% of them aren't going to do that -- they're going to keep putting millions and millions and millions of dollars in the collection plate to support it. You are NOT a Catholic if you don't believe the clergy should be doing as they're told and passing the Vatican NWO bilge down the line, as they do. It progress however if you're admitting the entire Catholic hierarchy pushes communism -- and that, my dear Artesian well of desperate rationalization, is EXACTLY WHAT IT IS:

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc1601/article_1348.shtml

Caps for emphasis only, comme toujours.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-25   12:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Artisan (#0)

Kevin MacDonald, Tim Murdock & John Friend - Invasion of Europe
September 21, 2015
Dr. Kevin MacDonald, Ph.D. in Biobehavioral Sciences, is the editor and chief contributor of The Occidental Observer, which presents original content touching on themes of white identity, white interests, and the culture of the West. Tim Murdock is the host of White Rabbit Radio and the voice of Horus the Avenger, bringing awareness to White genocide through the widely circulated memes, "Diversity is a code word for White genocide" and "Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White” and other popular animations. John Friend is an independent blogger and journalist who maintains The Realist Report, focusing primarily on the events of 9/11, WWII revisionism, media deception and psychological warfare, power and influence of the Zionist Lobby in America, and the systematic assault upon traditional Western European civilization.

In this special roundtable discussion, we focus on the burgeoning immigrant invasion of Europe and the controlled mainstream media’s contrived web of lies covering the mess. We begin with a look at the design and tactics of the campaign that is pulling on the heartstrings of White Europeans, and signs that the official narrative is beginning to crumble as people wake up to the absurdity of the situation. John describes the press’ coverage of the crisis, which plainly indicates their ruling elites’ central role in promoting the resettlement of non-Whites in Europe and America. We discuss the absence of any MSM video footage that would shine a negative light on the hostile 'refugees,' a majority of whom are extremely aggressive male Muslims with a particular disdain for Europeans.

We get into the attacks on US presidential candidate Donald Trump for his open support of White interests, along with the hypocrisy of the outspoken political elite in regards to the demographic and economic questions of the immigration debate. Further, we look at the speed in which the Zionist agenda to overthrow the Middle East using Western capital is moving, and Tim points to indications that the managerial class is growing suspicious of the global agenda and the mission of multiculturalism for only European countries. Kevin emphasizes the history of cataclysmic social upheaval that has been created by Jews, and the ideology of past movements that have been aimed at deconstructing the ethnicity of the Western people. Then, our focus turns toward simple memes that can be used to counteract the psychological warfare that has brainwashed society to believe in the utopian dream of diversity. To round things off, we speculate on what moves the hostile elite could have up their sleeves in what is shaping up to be a full-on clash of civilizations on European homelands.

http://rediceradio.net/radio/2015/RIR-150921-kevinmcdonald-timmurdock-johnfriend.mp3

Neo TryingtoWarnYou  posted on  2015-09-25   12:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Neo TryingtoWarnYou (#17)

I actually listened to that episode last week, thanks. Red ice radio is one of the best programs around, I listen often.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-25   13:52:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#15)

It always works,

No it rarely if ever works, and has nothing to do with the s. On this end anyway. But I believe you when you say that it works for you.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-25   13:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: NeoconsNailed (#16)

*********Then you're no better than the Babdists and Church o'Gawders whose theme song is "I'll fly away O Lordy.

What does that mean? If you don't underrstand the fallen nature of man, any discussion will go nowhere. If you believe Catholics goal in life is to fix a political circus in this fleeting world, you know notthing of Catholicism. The goal of this life is to get to heaven. Human nature is fallen, sinful, corrupt. This is 2nd grade stuff. If you believe that acknowleddgig the fallen nature of man is giving in to corruption, that is incorrect.

As far as your line " u are NOT a Catholic if you don't believe the clergy should be doing as they're told and passing the Vatican NWO bilge down the line, as they do." I don't know where you got that belief. Catholics must profess ther faith and follow church doctrine and precepts. Some clergymans opinion on worldly affairs has zero to do with whether someone is Catholic.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-25   14:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan (#20)

You can't be serious. And I'm speechless.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-25   16:07:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: NeoconsNailed (#21)

Can't be serious about what?

You had the same kind of breakdown, if you wil, the last time we discussed Catholicism. You spek the same as some rabiid anti-Catholic fundies I've seen in years past.

Get past the emotionalism, and try to address what you're confused about in my last post. These are literally grammar school concepts.

If you act intellectually crippled, unable to simply debate (point by counter point).....

Then there is no point in having a discussion.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-25   20:05:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: NeoconsNailed (#21)

Here you go, this explains the precepts of the church. This is what one must do to be a Catholic.

www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/ _P75.HTM

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-09-25   20:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Artisan (#22)

I don't break down, I quit -- because it's truly no use.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-09-25   20:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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