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Title: Trump gives Putin an 'A' on leadership
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URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/trump-gives-p ... ship-010843129--election.html#
Published: Sep 30, 2015
Author: Associated Press By JILL COLVIN
Post Date: 2015-09-30 01:22:20 by HAPPY2BME-4UM
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NEWARK, N.J. (AP) — One day after President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin made little headway in their standoff over Syria at their first formal meeting in more than two years, Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump is agreeing with Putin on his backing of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

Speaking on Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor" Tuesday evening, the billionaire businessman and presidential front-runner praised Russia's recent military buildup in Syria and expressed little concern for Putin's support for his longtime Syrian ally.
"If he wants to fight ISIS, let him fight ISIS," Trump said in an interview taped at his Trump Tower skyscraper in Manhattan.
"I say there's very little downside with Putin fighting ISIS," he added.
The U.S. has long insisted that Syria's future cannot include Assad. But Putin has cast Assad's government as the best defense against Islamic State militants, a group the U.S. is also working to defeat.
Trump also suggested that Assad, who has used barrel bombs and chemical weapons against civilians, was preferable to other potential options.
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"Personally, I've been looking at the different players and I've been watching Assad, Trump said, " ... and I'm looking at Assad and saying maybe he's better than the kind of people that we're supposed to be backing because we don't even know who we're backing. We have no idea."
Obama and Putin have a tense relationship that was on full display as the pair met at the United Nations General Assembly in New York.
Trump has long predicted that he would get along well with Putin and declared Monday that, "Putin is a nicer person than I am." He repeated his criticism that Putin is the better leader when compared with Obama.
"I will tell you that, in terms of leadership, he's getting an 'A' and our president is not doing so well," he said. "They did not look good together."
It was Trump's first appearance on Fox since he announced last week that he'd be boycotting the network for "the foreseeable future" because of what he deemed unfair treatment.
The boycott lasted less than a week.
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#1. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
Trump also suggested that Assad, who has used barrel bombs and chemical weapons against civilians, was preferable to other potential options.

How do they get away with spinning such outrageous lies which have been disproven years ago?
It's been very well established that the chemical weapons attack came from US backed rebels who were trying to frame the Syrian government.
As far as "barrel bombs", at least the Syrian Air Force was aiming for enemy combatants, and not wedding parties such as what the US (and recently the Saudi) Air Force routinely targets.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-09-30 2:08:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)

How do they get away with spinning such outrageous lies which have been disproved years ago?

Assertion gains points with Israel-loyal Jews which is what counts when it comes to US presidential and congressional elections.

Tatarewicz posted on 2015-09-30 3:52:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: FormerLurker (#1)
I'm for him, but for whatever it's worth, wikid has this to say:
The form of government Assad presides over is an authoritarian regime.[6] The Assad regime has described itself as secular,[7] while experts have contended that the regime exploits ethnic and sectarian tensions in the country to remain in power.[8][9][10] The western media has focussed on the regime's sectarian base relying upon the Alawite minority.[11] The local media regards their electorate base as far wider, encompassing more than 80% of the population of Syria.[3]
Initially seen by the domestic and international (Western) community as a potential reformer,[12] this expectation ceased when Assad ordered mass crackdowns and military sieges on Arab Spring protesters, leading to the Syrian Civil War. The Syrian opposition, the United States, Canada, the European Union and the majority of the Arab League have called for al- Assad's resignation from the presidency.[13][14] During the Syrian Civil War, Assad was personally implicated in war crimes and crimes against humanity by the United Nations,[15] and was the top of a list of individuals indicted for the greatest responsibility in war crimes for prosecution by the International Criminal Court.[16] In November 2014, the prosecutor of the Special Tribunal for Lebanon announced that evidence would be brought against Assad.[17] It was reported that 200,000 political prisoners were in jail in Syria for opposing the Assad regime.[18][19] In late April 2014, Assad announced he would run for a third term in Syria's first multi- candidate direct presidential election in decades, amid serious concerns by the European Union, the United States and other countries regarding the legitimacy of this vote and the effect it would have on peace talks with the Syrian Opposition.[20][21]
Is it all lies, or even 2/3?

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-09-30 3:52:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: NeoconsNailed (#3) (Edited)
You can't rely on everything you read on Wikipedia, but even if it were all true, it'd be a fraction of the evil perpetrated by the US, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the global cabal of US backed tyrants who rule places such as Uzbekistan, where they boil people alive (oh wait, now they just freeze them to death).
Our Presidents New Best Friend Boils People Alive

Uzbekistan: So Now Prisoners are Frozen Instead of Boiled?
That's not to even mention the indiscriminate killing of civilians by our Nazi friends over in Ukraine which Obongo's State Department installed into power, or the imprisonment and execution of journalists who dare speak the truth.
But as far as the claim that Syria gassed their own people, that's been shown to be pure BS, and at least a few Syrian "rebels" admitted it was them who did it.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-09-30 4:20:27 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: FormerLurker (#4) (Edited)
Meanwhile I'd like to know in objective terms how much of the quote is true.
Bushy boy looks like a cross between Johnny Carson and an orangutan in that picture. He would have been much better as occasional Tonight Show host than prez, and he would have stunk at that too.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-09-30 4:38:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: NeoconsNailed (#5) (Edited)

You're talking about the Wiki excerpt you posted, right?
For that you'd need to dig up the truth. I doubt you'd find it in western media.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-09-30 4:39:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: FormerLurker (#6)
Correct..... that's what I'm trying to do. Whew, this joint's jumpin' in the wee hours. I like!

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-09-30 4:42:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: NeoconsNailed (#5)
He would have been much better as occasional Tonight Show host than prez, and he would have stunk at that too.

I can just picture his monologues..

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across the country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-09-30 4:47:47 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: FormerLurker (#8)
We've seen way too many, haven't we!

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-09-30 5:01:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: NeoconsNailed (#3) (Edited)
I'm for him, but for whatever it's worth, wikid has this to say:
The form of government Assad presides over is an authoritarian regime.[6] The Assad regime has described itself as secular,[7] while experts have contended that the regime exploits ethnic and sectarian tensions in the country to remain in power.[8][9][10] The western media has focussed on the regime's sectarian base relying upon the Alawite minority.[11] The local media regards their electorate base as far wider, encompassing more than 80% of the population of Syria.[3]
Initially seen by the domestic and international (Western) community as a potential reformer,[12] this expectation ceased when Assad ordered mass crackdowns and military sieges on Arab Spring protesters, leading to the Syrian Civil War. The Syrian opposition, the United States, Canada, the European Union and the majority of the Arab League have called for al-Assad's resignation from the presidency.[13][14] During the Syrian Civil War, Assad was personally implicated in war crimes and crimes against humanity by the United Nations,[15] and was the top of a list of individuals indicted for the greatest responsibility in war crimes for prosecution by the International Criminal Court.[16] In November 2014, the prosecutor of the Special Tribunal for Lebanon announced that evidence would be brought against Assad.[17] It was reported that 200,000 political prisoners were in jail in Syria for opposing the Assad regime. [18][19] In late April 2014, Assad announced he would run for a third term in Syria's first multi-candidate direct presidential election in decades, amid serious concerns by the European Union, the United States and other countries regarding the legitimacy of this vote and the effect it would have on peace talks with the Syrian Opposition.[20][21]
Is it all lies, or even 2/3?

These 4 statements are not lies:
1. The Assad regime has described itself as secular,[7]
2. Initially seen by the domestic and international (Western) community as a potential reformer,[12] this expectation ceased [My note: See this 4um Reference from last year (September 18, 2014) with Wikipedia excerpts about the Golan Heights issue to realize that the quoted word "reformer" is Orwellian-speak for surrendering of the Golan Heights to Israel and whatever else it wants.]
3. The Syrian opposition, the United States, Canada, the European Union and the majority of the Arab League have called for al Assad's resignation from the presidency.[13][14]
4. In late April 2014, Assad announced he would run for a third term [snip to stop there]
Since #3 is the only full sentence and the other 3 statements are just fractional sentences, a mere 10% at most of the 10 Wikip sentences you posted are not Anti-Assad propaganda somehow. Overall, I'm going to guess that it is substantially more than 60% and probably closer to 80+% Zionist and warmongering spin.
The Rebels Without a Cause there want power for themselves. Assad has been elected and re-elected as a well respected leader, with far more support from Syrian citizens than most politicians here receive from American voters. Some of his video interviews have been posted here in Syria topics that you might be able find by a 4um Search. If not, try looking for YouTube available interviews with the West's MSM about the crisis and war situations of his country. He does not talk as an oppressive dictator or even unreasonably.
Edited example #4 to downsize + spacing and reply paragraph 1 after the numbered list.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-09-30 14:09:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: GreyLmist (#10)
Thanks so much for this input. We all seek solid verities, but I've learned that things are never quite what they seem. It used to be so easy to (for instance) embrace Pinochet's Chile but itseems far less black and white than it used to be, even allowing for human error, hot Latin tempers etc.

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-09-30 14:31:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#0)
Never forget, John Kerry and his sugar momma had dinner with Assad and his wife.

Putin gets an "A", Obama gets an "F"
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2015-09-30 15:21:02 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: GreyLmist (#10)
Whatever the number of people killed in the ME by their rulers, it's far, far, fewer than the number of people killed by US.
US is so much worse than they, I cannot say.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-09-30 15:34:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Tatarewicz, formerlurker (#2)
Assertion gains points with Israel-loyal Jews which is what counts when it comes to US presidential and congressional elections.

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78% of American Jews voted for Hussein Obama.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2015-09-30 15:36:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Lod, GreyLmist (#13)
What the ME needs is Saddam Hussein and Moamar Khadaffi.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2015-09-30 15:38:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: X-15 (#12)
Putin gets an "A", Obama gets an "F"

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Hussein Obama is the BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO RUSSIA.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2015-09-30 15:39:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: NeoconsNailed (#11) (Edited)
Thanks so much for this input. We all seek solid verities, but I've learned that things are never quite what they seem. It used to be so easy to (for instance) embrace Pinochet's Chile but itseems far less black and white than it used to be, even allowing for human error, hot Latin tempers etc.

You're welcome. Had to correct my first reply-sentence when I noticed that even the first numbered Wikip example wasn't a complete sentence, as I had initially thought it was. Ergo, had to somewhat upwardly adjust my percentage assessment of Zio-propaganda and warmongering accordingly too. Yes, it is difficult to sift through controlled media biases to get a better balanced view of world news, etc. Often, the punditry just makes accusations and remarks expected to be taken for granted without evidence or question. From the mass media's Anti-Assad frenzies, most people of the West probably just presume Assad is a monsterous tryrant without any review of his administrations and the "rebel's" regime-change war there whatsoever.
[Re-edited at Post #10: example #4 to downsize + spacing and reply paragraph 1 after the numbered list.]
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2015-09-30 15:44:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#15)
Yep, their countries were just fine when they were in power; a threat to no one except the jew-bankers through their non-compliance.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-09-30 15:44:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Lod (#18)
That quote was from an US Army Major who spent three years in Iraq.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2015-09-30 15:56:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#19)
Smart soldier, I hope that he's safely home.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2015-09-30 16:30:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: NeoconsNailed (#9)
We've seen way too many, haven't we!

He could have been a movie star; he'd be a cross between Soupy Sales, Moe from the 3 Stooges, and Jerry Lewis.
Myself I found his long history of mega gaffs along with his outrageous infantile behavior somewhat humorous except for the sobering fact this was supposed to have been the "leader of the free world".

"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
FormerLurker posted on 2015-09-30 22:32:35 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: FormerLurker (#21)
It hurts too much to laugh -- I've never managed to at his buffoonery.
www.youtube.com/watch? v=II1zAObtwlM
www.counterpunch.org/2002...h-and-dry-drunk-syndrome/

NeoconsNailed posted on 2015-09-30 23:34:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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