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Title: He'd Let Them Swarm In, Now He'd kick Them Out: Trump Does Drastic 180 on Syrian Immigrants In less Than A Month, His Desperate, Starry-Eyed Supporters Don't Even Notice
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URL Source: http://libertyfight.com/2015/trump_ ... ic_180_on_Syrian_refugees.html
Published: Oct 6, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-10-06 14:00:35 by Artisan
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Views: 2609
Comments: 87

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to." - Donald Trump on Syrian refugees into the United States, less than 30 days ago

Look, everyone knows we need a real game-changer in this country, someone who cares about America. But let's not be so naive, gullible and desperate as to so easily fall for yet another one of these shysters. Just like his sudden, drastic "about-faces" on gun rights and illegal immigration, Donald "I'm A Big Fan Of Israel" Trump said less than 25 days ago that we must let Syrian immigrants in because it's a "humanitarian disaster" and the poor migrants were "in a living hell." This was reported worldwide including on CNN, Breitbart, Politico, Fox news and everywhere else. This week he's saying the exact opposite, that he would send them back, (presumably send back the same ones he promised to let in?) Where I come from theres an old saying which applies in this case. Trump's "so full of shit his eyes are brown." Also, here are his quotes supporting the assault weapons ban, longer 'waiting lists' and as well as his promotion of amnesty for the "good" illegal aliens who have not "broken the law." Yes his lines are good, (depending on which way the wind is blowing) but savvy political observers who know about gun rights, immigration and pro-life issues know that this Clinton and Harry Reid donor is as trustworthy as a used car salesman.

This week, it was reported: Donald Trump says he'd send back Syrian refugees taken in by the US

But less than a month ago, he said what he would really do, the exact opposite! It was widely reported worldwide:

  • CNN: Trump: U.S. Should Accept Some Syrian Refugees September 8, 2015 Washington (CNN)—Donald Trump thinks the United States should accept some refugees from Syria due to the "unbelievable humanitarian problem." Trump has made anti-immigration rhetoric a cornerstone of his campaign, but the Republican presidential candidate said Tuesday evening that though the migrants could pose a security risk -- floating the idea that there may be individuals with ties to Islamic militants -- he supported allowing them into America. "I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to," Trump said to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly.

  • Politico: Trump Calls For Taking In Syrian Refugees

  • Breitbart: "You Have To": Trump Would Allow Syrian Refugees Into America

On guns, Trump has openly called for gun bans, and to this day supports longer waiting lists and 'background checks.' And in a recent interview with a gun rights group, he did not retract his position on assault weapons ban, but rather quibbled about the defintion of what's considered an assault weapon.

Here are some of the priceless comments from the gun rights forum from people who don't fall for Trump's b.s.:

  • Why is there a “no firearms” sign on the doors at Trump Towers?
  • Vanns40 says: Trump refuses to answer the question regarding expanding waiting periods and artfully sidestepped the assault weapons controversy. Be very careful in supporting someone who refuses to be explicit in their answers.
  • Judd Paynter says: I cannot believe you guys are being suckered by this man. WHO EVER VOTES FOR TRUMP…A FLAMING LIBERAL AT HEART, IS NOT A TRUE PATRIOT AMERICAN, BUT NOTHING MORE THAN RINOS WHO LIKE DUMOCRATS ARE THE RUINATION OF AMERICA. While Trump is not a prophet, this scripture fits those being deceived by him. Matthew 24:24 “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” You Trump zombies are no different than the sheeple who voted for Obama, and you will get the same from Trump. You will pay for having even supported Trump, but by then it will be too late.
  • Read Trumps comments, he and Hillary hold the exact same position on gun control. The NRA should compromise and support background checks, longer waiting periods and a ban on assault rifles. On guns he and Hillary are the same. Why would any gun owner support this?

  • The Donald .I must pass on. He is clearly no fan of citizen ownership of AR-15’s and magazines holding more than 10 rounds. He is a 1% elitist .Those untouchable gated community people who think they know better. Than the yeoman, common folk ,of America. If he is not like Bill % Hitlery Clinton. Why did he donate $100,000 to Clinton’s Globalist Initiative Foundation? Globalist really ? We are 7% of the world’s population. But we are unique .We are the greatest nation on this planet. These globalists want us to forget about being citizens of America. They want us to be citizen’s of the world. Worse they want us to be a vassal state to the United Nations. I say birds of a feather flock together. Historically nich people and gangsters in N.Y.City can get a pistol permit sidestepping the Sullivan Law. The common yeoman folk ,not very often. Besides Hitlery has already been chosen by the Globalist -Bilderburg’s to be the next POTUS. Presidents are not elected they are selected by the multinationals, bankers and globalists. At least I know who is pissing down my back and why. And it is not rain. All smoke n mirrors. Most Americans are asleep at the wheel. A hamburger and television mentality. We have lost the republic, that we were given !!!

  • If Donald the Scofflaw Trump is so successful at running businesses, why the multiple bankruptcies? Or is “running businesses into the ground” what you meant?

Here is Trump's waffling on immigration, backing away from his support of amnesty now that he's pretending to be a 'conservative.'

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

As long as BOTH parties and FedGov hate and despise Donald Trump then he is still marginally better than any other candidate for POTUS in 2016. I don't see anybody better on the horizon, especially with Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren about to jump into it against Hitlery Clinton.

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2015-10-06   14:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: X-15, Artisan, 4 (#1)

Anyone that the rulers hate, I tend to like.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-10-06   14:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: X-15 (#1)

As long as BOTH parties and FedGov hate and despise Donald Trump then he is still marginally better than any other candidate for POTUS in 2016.

Have to agree. I'm still not sure I'm going to vote at all, but at least for now I'm rooting for him.

John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics:
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal

How to End the Refugee Flood
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2015-10-06   14:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: PnbC (#3)

If Trump's on your ballot, go for him.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-10-06   14:54:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: PnbC (#3)

I'm not voting, but I'll cheer Donald Trump into the Oval Office as long as his victory will make the Republicans fall down and kick their legs in an infantile/kosher tantrum.....

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2015-10-06   14:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#6. To: X-15 (#1)

i dont think they hate this actor at all. its all a show. trump is lauded in jewish newspapers daily. hes a crypto jew for all intents and purposes.

he still supports assault weapons bans and 'longer waiting lists.' he is a statist. he's for amnesty, always has been. its in his books. he told fox illegal aliens are good people, and he would 'kick the bad ones out.' and that 'its complicated.'

this is exactly like when the CA GOP was mesmerized by schwarzenegger, who had always been vehemently anti gun (despite his movie roles where he shoots guns.) the first thing he did when he got into office was ban .50 caliber ammo. he was also always a fag loving abortionist global warming perv, yet these witless republicans (to put it nicely) just flocked all over this guy like fucking faggots.

let me tell you x15 ive had enough of this bullshit. americans are too damn stupid, and i find it very dificult to be charitable in all this. its too much.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-06   15:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: Lod (#4)

If Trump's on your ballot, go for him.

I presume he will be, although in CA the primaries are about 5 or 6 months away. I also have no faith in the honesty of electronic voting machines, so when I have voted in the last few years it has always been absentee since it preserves the paper document. But you can see my hesitancy to even participate. I've been disappointed too many times already with numerous reports of voter fraud and other non-prosecuted shenanigans.

I guess I could vote for Trump in the primary. In the general election it will probably come down to either a third-party candidate (as usual), not voting (or only local issues), or voting for whichever major candidate is less likely to get us into (or escalate) war with Russia.

John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics:
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal

How to End the Refugee Flood
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2015-10-06   15:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: PnbC (#7)

did you vote for scwarzenegger for ca governor?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-06   15:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: Artisan (#8)

did you vote for scwarzenegger for ca governor?

Nope. I was never that desperate in my home state.

John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics:
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal

How to End the Refugee Flood
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2015-10-06   15:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: PnbC (#7)

Somehow, we've got to return to paper ballots, hand-counted in plain view at the precinct level.

Otherwise, we remain screwed.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-10-06   15:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: PnbC (#9)

Nope. I was never that desperate in my home state.

glad to hear it,. i was a big supporter of senator mcclintock at that time, he would ahve made a good governor,. as a congressman, however, he sucks, because is a zionist loon.

just like tom tancredo, a lot of these guys with otherwise good principles, bow when it comes to the jew.

by the way i didnt know there was anyone here from CA. if you ever geta traffic ticket check out my traffic ticket archive, we have had a great deal of success and i get emails regularly from people who have beaten their tickets and wanted to say thanks. its a lot of fun. libertyfight.com/traffic.html

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-06   15:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: Artisan (#11)

Since we have nothing/no one to pin our hope on, Trump, for me, is pure entertainment. I won't be voting for him or anyone. Matt Drudge fears that hillary is the chosen. I caught a little of his interview on AJ's show while driving.

christine  posted on  2015-10-06   17:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#13. To: christine (#12)

Matt Drudge fears that hillary is the chosen. I caught a little of his interview on AJ's show while driving.

I think Hilarity will only continue to go down in the polls in the months ahead. A year ago I would've said she is a shoo in, but things aren't that bright for her these days. The other day I read about how getting assigned to guard Hillary was considered punishment by the SS during Bill's presidency. And more news coming out about her awful personality in private. If the media is being run by the PTB, then I'm inclined to think that the bigwigs are already starting to jettison her as a bad bet.

Her best chance to win is if she is running against Carly Fiorina. Pray it doesn't come to that.

John Howard says: There are 4 schools of economics:
Marxism: steal everything
Keynesianism: steal by counterfeiting whenever needed
Chicago school (Milton Friedman): steal by counterfeiting at a steady, predictable rate
Austrians: don't steal

How to End the Refugee Flood
'Wiped off the Map' – The Rumor of the Century

PnbC  posted on  2015-10-06   17:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#14. To: christine (#12)

Since we have nothing/no one to pin our hope on, Trump, for me, is pure entertainment. I won't be voting for him or anyone.

Hear! Hear!

"The 'uniter' has brought the entire world together - to despise and deride us." Lod.

Bub  posted on  2015-10-06   17:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#15. To: PnbC (#13)

Polls don't matter. Israel wants their woman in there. All these scandals will be ignored or swept under the rug. They won't matter. Barring some kind of divine intervention, you'll soon be calling Hillary "madame president".

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-10-06   21:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#16. To: christine (#12)

I heard about that , people were so excited drudge dropped in. I don't listed to alex show anymore except very rarely but ill download it and listen. Its interesting that a mainline goper is appearing on the show of a guy who says satanists run our gov and blew up the twin towers.

By the way isn't drudge literally a jewish fag??? Lmao! What a world.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-07   8:52:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#17. To: Obnoxicated, pnbc (#15)

Her best chance to win is if she is running against Carly Fiorina. Pray it doesn't come to that.

Ok, so I understand that trump wouldbe preferable to clinton, although I don't think that the general policy, practice or direction of the country would change either way.

Aside from that, I don't think a woman should ever be president. Or senator for that matter, or any elected office. Is that a rare stance nowadays?

Women should stick to their natural roles and not try to be men.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-07   8:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#18. To: Artisan (#17)

I agree, and try not to say so here. But what do you do about the exceptions? Phyllis Schlafly would make a great president. OUr Christine would too. Helen Chenoweth-Haig was one of the extreme few Congresscritters worthy of the name -- I suspect they killed her for it.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-07   9:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#19. To: NeoconsNailed (#18)

I agree, and try not to say so here. But what do you do about the exceptions? Phyllis Schlafly would make a great president. OUr Christine would too. Helen Chenoweth-Haig was one of the extreme few Congresscritters worthy of the name -- I suspect they killed her for it.

ive never heard of Helen Chenoweth-Haig. thanks im sure she is someone new and worthwhile to research.

sorry but i disagree on schlafly. she's full of shit a lot of times, (She used to have a minute speil during breaks on rivero's show. i remember she shilled for vaccines, and is sort of a neocon fretting about iran, muslims, falls for the the 9/11 lie, etc.

i only developed this line of thought in recent years, but am convinced it is correct. i dont even think women , ideally, i am talking about, should have to work outside the home.

why should women be forced to be men? its the jews who rigged this sick country's financial system to make both parents work and destroy the family, this destroy society.

bishop williamson has given views on this topic of the role of women but it is very hard to find. id like to scope it out and give his ideas a listen.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-07   11:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: Artisan (#17)

Ok, so I understand that trump wouldbe preferable to clinton, although I don't think that the general policy, practice or direction of the country would change either way.

Supreme Court nominations and the Military are two reasons why Presidential elections aren't supposed to be popularity contests. A Democrat stacked both with Cultural Marxist idealogues, which resulted in the obliteration of Marriage and Freedom of Religion by SCOTUS and America's national security being jeopardized Militarily, too, by the Commie Culturati of "Political Correctness". If it really doesn't make much difference to you either way and you don't even intend to vote for anyone (as I read here somewhere recently), why are you once again (for the 2nd Presidential election in a row) campaigning so much against the very best option of the Republican candidates running? It's not like America is going to get perfect choices from any party but Democrats are the most Pro-Abortion party and to the point of denying Freedom of Religion to doctors and hospitals about it.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-10-08   9:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#21. To: GreyLmist (#20)

Muslim Woman Murdered in Germany by Family for Being Gang Raped

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2015-10-08   9:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#22. To: GreyLmist (#20) (Edited)

It's not like America is going to get perfect choices from any party

This is a classic (yet very common) understatement. The FEDS are PUBLIC ENEMY #1 and the word "perfect" has no relation whatsoever to the shit operating out of D.C. Get a clue !

EDIT: The only people more fucked up than the deceivers in D.C. are those self deceivers that continue to believe anything good can come out of D.C.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   10:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#23. To: GreyLmist (#20)

really doesn't make much difference to you either way and you don't even intend to vote for anyone (as I read here somewhere recently), why are you once again (for the 2nd Presidential election in a row) campaigning so much against the very best option of the Republican candidates running? It's not like America is going to get perfect c

Are you really kidding me? I thought of all people you'd see through this fraud. And if you fall for the proven MYTH that GOPers are pro life and they'll give us good SC justices! They'll stop abortion"

GM that's such a sad naive contention. As if abortionist fag lover roberts who appointed by "conservative" gwbush, gifted us with obamacare.

If you fall for the absurd atrocity that this HARRY REID DONR; JEWISH TOADY AND NETANYAHU ENDORSEE trump is your hero, go for it. Btw he's also an abortionist, fag lover and high tax. Advocate. For myself, ill never make a deal with satanic filth.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   11:16:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#24. To: Artisan (#23)

For myself, ill never make a deal with satanic filth.

Says the loyal papist !

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   11:24:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#25. To: GreyLmist (#20)

which resulted in the obliteration of Marriage and Freedom of Religion by SCOTUS an

No court or devil wearing a black robed costume has any authority to destroy marriage. Marriage is a sacred indissoluble bond created by God & entered into by a man & woman. Anyone who believes that govt can end or change marriage is wrong. People who afvocate sodomy, promiscuity, adultery, fornication, or any mortal sin will learn the truth the moment they die, and if they don't repentt before that moment then they will be damned to hell for all eternity.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   11:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#26. To: noone222 (#24)

ROTF!!!!!!!!

But thank you, Artisan, for calling pro-feticidists by the good old, horrible old standard English term ABORTIONISTS.

Terms now eclipsed by gliberals are so much harder-hitting, because they're truer. One of the many ways gliberals attempt to gum up our lives is by slowing speech down, e.g. taking good old, bad old "VD" with its connotations of dissolution and vice, and turning it into "sexually transmitted diseases", NINE syllables longer.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-08   11:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#27. To: noone222 (#24)

That kind of name-calling is not necessary on this forum, noone.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-10-08   11:35:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#28. To: noone222 (#24)

That's right. The son of God didn't come to this earth and establish thousands of squirley denominations that have no authority and disagree with each other on thousands of issurs. He established one church, . Catholicism.

Martin luther rebelled out of pride, the weak and proud dupes followed him. They make up their "churches" on any corner USA, and get their "credentials" out of a cracker jack box.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   11:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#29. To: Artisan (#25)

People who advocate sodomy, promiscuity, adultery, fornication, or any mortal sin will learn the truth the moment they die, and if they don't repent before that moment then they will be damned to hell for all eternity.

Man, I do my best to refrain from arguments related to religion or other people's beliefs. And while I agree with much of what is included above, I must say some of it is not Biblical but pure Catholicism, a religious organization that transfers paedophilic homosexuals rather than administer justice.

I believe that you are as deluded religiously as GM is politically. You both want to believe in a mirage.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   11:38:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#30. To: Artisan (#28)

That's right. The son of God didn't come to this earth and establish thousands of squirley denominations that have no authority and disagree with each other on thousands of issurs. He established one church, . Catholicism.

Pure nonsense. I was raised Catholic but I removed the mote that the Catholic Church placed in my eye.

One for instance is that the Catholic Church claims that Christ founded his Church on Peter (the rock) after He (Christ) asked Peter "who do they say that I am" ? Peter answered, some say this and some say that ... to which Christ asked "whom do you say that I am" ? Peter answered you are the Christ, the son of God ... and this is where Christ said Upon this rock (that He was the son of God) I will build my church. He didn't found his church upon Peter the denier (that denied Him thrice) !

Again, today a Jesuit blasphemer is Pope. This Pope is promoting a New World Order to fight climate change. He is sanctioning divorce AND absolution for ABORTION.

Get off of your high horse. The TRUTH will set you free.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   11:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#31. To: noone222 (#29)

I understand we've never really bickered about religion here & that's fine.

As I've explained before, judas one of twelve betrayed Christ, others will also. The church has been under satanic attack for years. But the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Is it curious why the jewish_masonic cabal & satanists primarily oppose Catholicism. Not methodists, baptists, lutherans, lds, etc. There's a simple reason for that.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   11:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#32. To: Artisan (#25) (Edited)

Capitoline Hill, Rome, October 29, 2004 - Signing the new EU constitution in the Appartamento dei Conservatori, Sala degli Orazi e Curiazi, before the bronze statue of Pope Innocent X by Alessandro Algardi.

No court or devil wearing a black robed costume has any authority

Nor one wearing a white Robe !!!

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   11:57:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: Artisan (#31)

As I've explained before, judas one of twelve betrayed Christ, others will also. The church has been under satanic attack for years. But the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

I don't suppose that you're equating the current Pope to Judas ?

It appears that the Roman Church will destroy itself like Amerika from within. The Catholic Church is the greatest spreader of guilt in children, from don't eat meat on Fridays (when I was a kid) to making certain other failings "so-called" MORTAL SINS. The Bible states that there is only one sin unto death and that is "Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit."

Again, if the Church were to follow the teachings of the Bible they would have to stone to death many of their own priests.

Why no mention of the Church's involvement in the mass invasion of hispanics ? I can't think of another organization more hypocritical than the Roman Catholic Universal Church. The Church is so hard up for new converts that they are now inducting Haitian voodoo devils. Gimme a break, I know you're too smart for this nonsense.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   12:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#34. To: noone222 (#30)

e. This Pope is promoting a New World Order to fight climate change. He is sanctioning divorce AND absolution for ABORTION.

Get off of your high horse. The

I've been thru all this with neoconsnailed. You should know when infallibility applies.. doctrine, faith & morals- the same Catholic doctrine of St. Augustine, bishop Sheen & Fr Coughlin. Nothing whatsoever has changed. Popes opinions on the NY mets or carbon pollution are completely irrelevent to the faith. Pope francis is a modernist & far leftist.

He however never okayed communion after divorce & remmariage. Just yesterday he reaffirmed marriage is dissoluable. He will never say otherwise. The family synod is occuring now.

Many modernist bishops are trying to destroy or evade church teachings as we speak. Interestingly,Francis appointed a traditional absolutist to head the synod. It lasts three weeks.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   12:12:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#35. To: Artisan (#34) (Edited)

Are Catholics alone qualified for heaven ?

Would you deny that Constantine (a pagan) authorized the Catholic Church into existence ?

Was the inquisition waged by an infallible Papacy ?

C'mon man, get real.

EDIT: I quit. I generally refuse/reject this sort of bullshit.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   12:16:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#36. To: Artisan (#25) (Edited)

People who advocate sodomy, promiscuity, adultery, fornication, or any mortal sin will learn the truth the moment they die, and if they don't repent before that moment then they will be damned to hell for all eternity.

Matthew 12:31

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

EDIT: Your statement above is catholic doctrine. Matthew 12:31 is Bible !

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   12:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#37. To: randge (#27)

That kind of name-calling is not necessary on this forum, noone.

Hey, I ain't calling names ... I was a Catholic myself. Our country and the world is in danger of being bullshitted to death by these costume wearing posers.

Followers of the Pope are papists.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   12:36:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#38. To: noone222 (#36)

This is actually an interesting convo. Id like to reply to three of your points, but can't right now. Ill be back later, have a good day.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   12:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#39. To: neoconsnailed (#38)

Please for your own sake click "ignore thread" & don't read any of this. I wouldn't want you to have a stroke. ;-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   12:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#40. To: Artisan (#38)

Ill be back later, have a good day.

Good day to you as well.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   12:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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