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Title: He'd Let Them Swarm In, Now He'd kick Them Out: Trump Does Drastic 180 on Syrian Immigrants In less Than A Month, His Desperate, Starry-Eyed Supporters Don't Even Notice
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URL Source: http://libertyfight.com/2015/trump_ ... ic_180_on_Syrian_refugees.html
Published: Oct 6, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-10-06 14:00:35 by Artisan
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Views: 2760
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"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to." - Donald Trump on Syrian refugees into the United States, less than 30 days ago

Look, everyone knows we need a real game-changer in this country, someone who cares about America. But let's not be so naive, gullible and desperate as to so easily fall for yet another one of these shysters. Just like his sudden, drastic "about-faces" on gun rights and illegal immigration, Donald "I'm A Big Fan Of Israel" Trump said less than 25 days ago that we must let Syrian immigrants in because it's a "humanitarian disaster" and the poor migrants were "in a living hell." This was reported worldwide including on CNN, Breitbart, Politico, Fox news and everywhere else. This week he's saying the exact opposite, that he would send them back, (presumably send back the same ones he promised to let in?) Where I come from theres an old saying which applies in this case. Trump's "so full of shit his eyes are brown." Also, here are his quotes supporting the assault weapons ban, longer 'waiting lists' and as well as his promotion of amnesty for the "good" illegal aliens who have not "broken the law." Yes his lines are good, (depending on which way the wind is blowing) but savvy political observers who know about gun rights, immigration and pro-life issues know that this Clinton and Harry Reid donor is as trustworthy as a used car salesman.

This week, it was reported: Donald Trump says he'd send back Syrian refugees taken in by the US

But less than a month ago, he said what he would really do, the exact opposite! It was widely reported worldwide:

  • CNN: Trump: U.S. Should Accept Some Syrian Refugees September 8, 2015 Washington (CNN)—Donald Trump thinks the United States should accept some refugees from Syria due to the "unbelievable humanitarian problem." Trump has made anti-immigration rhetoric a cornerstone of his campaign, but the Republican presidential candidate said Tuesday evening that though the migrants could pose a security risk -- floating the idea that there may be individuals with ties to Islamic militants -- he supported allowing them into America. "I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to," Trump said to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly.

  • Politico: Trump Calls For Taking In Syrian Refugees

  • Breitbart: "You Have To": Trump Would Allow Syrian Refugees Into America

On guns, Trump has openly called for gun bans, and to this day supports longer waiting lists and 'background checks.' And in a recent interview with a gun rights group, he did not retract his position on assault weapons ban, but rather quibbled about the defintion of what's considered an assault weapon.

Here are some of the priceless comments from the gun rights forum from people who don't fall for Trump's b.s.:

  • Why is there a “no firearms” sign on the doors at Trump Towers?
  • Vanns40 says: Trump refuses to answer the question regarding expanding waiting periods and artfully sidestepped the assault weapons controversy. Be very careful in supporting someone who refuses to be explicit in their answers.
  • Judd Paynter says: I cannot believe you guys are being suckered by this man. WHO EVER VOTES FOR TRUMP…A FLAMING LIBERAL AT HEART, IS NOT A TRUE PATRIOT AMERICAN, BUT NOTHING MORE THAN RINOS WHO LIKE DUMOCRATS ARE THE RUINATION OF AMERICA. While Trump is not a prophet, this scripture fits those being deceived by him. Matthew 24:24 “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” You Trump zombies are no different than the sheeple who voted for Obama, and you will get the same from Trump. You will pay for having even supported Trump, but by then it will be too late.
  • Read Trumps comments, he and Hillary hold the exact same position on gun control. The NRA should compromise and support background checks, longer waiting periods and a ban on assault rifles. On guns he and Hillary are the same. Why would any gun owner support this?

  • The Donald .I must pass on. He is clearly no fan of citizen ownership of AR-15’s and magazines holding more than 10 rounds. He is a 1% elitist .Those untouchable gated community people who think they know better. Than the yeoman, common folk ,of America. If he is not like Bill % Hitlery Clinton. Why did he donate $100,000 to Clinton’s Globalist Initiative Foundation? Globalist really ? We are 7% of the world’s population. But we are unique .We are the greatest nation on this planet. These globalists want us to forget about being citizens of America. They want us to be citizen’s of the world. Worse they want us to be a vassal state to the United Nations. I say birds of a feather flock together. Historically nich people and gangsters in N.Y.City can get a pistol permit sidestepping the Sullivan Law. The common yeoman folk ,not very often. Besides Hitlery has already been chosen by the Globalist -Bilderburg’s to be the next POTUS. Presidents are not elected they are selected by the multinationals, bankers and globalists. At least I know who is pissing down my back and why. And it is not rain. All smoke n mirrors. Most Americans are asleep at the wheel. A hamburger and television mentality. We have lost the republic, that we were given !!!

  • If Donald the Scofflaw Trump is so successful at running businesses, why the multiple bankruptcies? Or is “running businesses into the ground” what you meant?

Here is Trump's waffling on immigration, backing away from his support of amnesty now that he's pretending to be a 'conservative.'

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

As long as BOTH parties and FedGov hate and despise Donald Trump then he is still marginally better than any other candidate for POTUS in 2016. I don't see anybody better on the horizon, especially with Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren about to jump into it against Hitlery Clinton.

X-15  posted on  2015-10-06   14:39:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: X-15 (#1)

As long as BOTH parties and FedGov hate and despise Donald Trump then he is still marginally better than any other candidate for POTUS in 2016.

Have to agree. I'm still not sure I'm going to vote at all, but at least for now I'm rooting for him.

PnbC  posted on  2015-10-06   14:49:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: PnbC (#3)

If Trump's on your ballot, go for him.

Lod  posted on  2015-10-06   14:54:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: Lod (#4)

If Trump's on your ballot, go for him.

I presume he will be, although in CA the primaries are about 5 or 6 months away. I also have no faith in the honesty of electronic voting machines, so when I have voted in the last few years it has always been absentee since it preserves the paper document. But you can see my hesitancy to even participate. I've been disappointed too many times already with numerous reports of voter fraud and other non-prosecuted shenanigans.

I guess I could vote for Trump in the primary. In the general election it will probably come down to either a third-party candidate (as usual), not voting (or only local issues), or voting for whichever major candidate is less likely to get us into (or escalate) war with Russia.

PnbC  posted on  2015-10-06   15:20:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: PnbC (#7)

did you vote for scwarzenegger for ca governor?

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-06   15:21:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: Artisan (#8)

did you vote for scwarzenegger for ca governor?

Nope. I was never that desperate in my home state.

PnbC  posted on  2015-10-06   15:43:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: PnbC (#9)

Nope. I was never that desperate in my home state.

glad to hear it,. i was a big supporter of senator mcclintock at that time, he would ahve made a good governor,. as a congressman, however, he sucks, because is a zionist loon.

just like tom tancredo, a lot of these guys with otherwise good principles, bow when it comes to the jew.

by the way i didnt know there was anyone here from CA. if you ever geta traffic ticket check out my traffic ticket archive, we have had a great deal of success and i get emails regularly from people who have beaten their tickets and wanted to say thanks. its a lot of fun. libertyfight.com/traffic.html

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-06   15:48:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: Artisan (#11)

Since we have nothing/no one to pin our hope on, Trump, for me, is pure entertainment. I won't be voting for him or anyone. Matt Drudge fears that hillary is the chosen. I caught a little of his interview on AJ's show while driving.

christine  posted on  2015-10-06   17:01:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#13. To: christine (#12)

Matt Drudge fears that hillary is the chosen. I caught a little of his interview on AJ's show while driving.

I think Hilarity will only continue to go down in the polls in the months ahead. A year ago I would've said she is a shoo in, but things aren't that bright for her these days. The other day I read about how getting assigned to guard Hillary was considered punishment by the SS during Bill's presidency. And more news coming out about her awful personality in private. If the media is being run by the PTB, then I'm inclined to think that the bigwigs are already starting to jettison her as a bad bet.

Her best chance to win is if she is running against Carly Fiorina. Pray it doesn't come to that.

PnbC  posted on  2015-10-06   17:13:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#15. To: PnbC (#13)

Polls don't matter. Israel wants their woman in there. All these scandals will be ignored or swept under the rug. They won't matter. Barring some kind of divine intervention, you'll soon be calling Hillary "madame president".

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-10-06   21:01:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#17. To: Obnoxicated, pnbc (#15)

Her best chance to win is if she is running against Carly Fiorina. Pray it doesn't come to that.

Ok, so I understand that trump wouldbe preferable to clinton, although I don't think that the general policy, practice or direction of the country would change either way.

Aside from that, I don't think a woman should ever be president. Or senator for that matter, or any elected office. Is that a rare stance nowadays?

Women should stick to their natural roles and not try to be men.

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-07   8:56:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: Artisan (#17)

Ok, so I understand that trump wouldbe preferable to clinton, although I don't think that the general policy, practice or direction of the country would change either way.

Supreme Court nominations and the Military are two reasons why Presidential elections aren't supposed to be popularity contests. A Democrat stacked both with Cultural Marxist idealogues, which resulted in the obliteration of Marriage and Freedom of Religion by SCOTUS and America's national security being jeopardized Militarily, too, by the Commie Culturati of "Political Correctness". If it really doesn't make much difference to you either way and you don't even intend to vote for anyone (as I read here somewhere recently), why are you once again (for the 2nd Presidential election in a row) campaigning so much against the very best option of the Republican candidates running? It's not like America is going to get perfect choices from any party but Democrats are the most Pro-Abortion party and to the point of denying Freedom of Religion to doctors and hospitals about it.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-10-08   9:14:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#25. To: GreyLmist (#20)

which resulted in the obliteration of Marriage and Freedom of Religion by SCOTUS an

No court or devil wearing a black robed costume has any authority to destroy marriage. Marriage is a sacred indissoluble bond created by God & entered into by a man & woman. Anyone who believes that govt can end or change marriage is wrong. People who afvocate sodomy, promiscuity, adultery, fornication, or any mortal sin will learn the truth the moment they die, and if they don't repentt before that moment then they will be damned to hell for all eternity.

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   11:31:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#29. To: Artisan (#25)

People who advocate sodomy, promiscuity, adultery, fornication, or any mortal sin will learn the truth the moment they die, and if they don't repent before that moment then they will be damned to hell for all eternity.

Man, I do my best to refrain from arguments related to religion or other people's beliefs. And while I agree with much of what is included above, I must say some of it is not Biblical but pure Catholicism, a religious organization that transfers paedophilic homosexuals rather than administer justice.

I believe that you are as deluded religiously as GM is politically. You both want to believe in a mirage.

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   11:38:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#31. To: noone222 (#29)

I understand we've never really bickered about religion here & that's fine.

As I've explained before, judas one of twelve betrayed Christ, others will also. The church has been under satanic attack for years. But the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Is it curious why the jewish_masonic cabal & satanists primarily oppose Catholicism. Not methodists, baptists, lutherans, lds, etc. There's a simple reason for that.

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-08   11:51:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: Artisan (#31)

As I've explained before, judas one of twelve betrayed Christ, others will also. The church has been under satanic attack for years. But the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

I don't suppose that you're equating the current Pope to Judas ?

It appears that the Roman Church will destroy itself like Amerika from within. The Catholic Church is the greatest spreader of guilt in children, from don't eat meat on Fridays (when I was a kid) to making certain other failings "so-called" MORTAL SINS. The Bible states that there is only one sin unto death and that is "Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit."

Again, if the Church were to follow the teachings of the Bible they would have to stone to death many of their own priests.

Why no mention of the Church's involvement in the mass invasion of hispanics ? I can't think of another organization more hypocritical than the Roman Catholic Universal Church. The Church is so hard up for new converts that they are now inducting Haitian voodoo devils. Gimme a break, I know you're too smart for this nonsense.

noone222  posted on  2015-10-08   12:11:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#67. To: noone222 (#33)

I don't suppose that you're equating the current Pope to Judas ?

It appears that the Roman Church will destroy itself like Amerika from within. The Catholic Church is the greatest spreader of guilt in children, from don't eat meat on Fridays (when I was a kid) to making certain other failings "so-called" MORTAL SINS. The Bible states that there is only one sin unto death and that is "Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit."

No, I am not calling Pope Francis Judas. I was referring to the fallen nature of man and that men will fall unto corruption and sin, and give bad examples and horrible leadership, instead of being devout and pious as they should try to be. All this corruption does not mean the Catholic church is not the true Christian church. It means that the church is going through a passion. beaten, battered, bloody, even unrecognizable to some, but the Body of Christ will prevail.

here are my 3 points i referred to.

1. Unlike many Catholics, I am someone who isn't afraid to acknowledge and expose the rot and corruption and perversion among some of the people in the church. (it's far from 'all of them.') I'm a 'NWO-wise' Catholic, & I dont go for garbage like global warming hysteria, open borders, etc. None of that is church teaching anyway and it never will be. I posted what the Catechism actually says about borders, a few weeks ago. it is solid.

2. You probably know this, but it's not correct to compare 'the unforgivable sin' of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to what's called a MORTAL SIN. Mortal sins are not considered 'unforgivable sins.' They are serious, grave sins (violating one of the Ten Commandments) which someone willfully consents to commit. When a person commits one, they no longer have 'sanctifying grace' and must either be absolved in confession or have perfect contrition ('perfect sorrow' for the sin is that sorrow not motivated by a mere fear of hell). if one dies in the state of mortal sin they will go to hell. http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mortal-sin

3. Authority is very important. When I say the church has the only valid authority, that means that every single priest and bishop on earth can trace directly back to Jesus himself.

Origins of Peter as Pope Jesus Christ’s calling the apostle Peter "rock": "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18).

I am not an expert, that is why we have the church, which has the authority to teach and declare doctrines and tradition.

Apostolic Succession
What is meant by the term Apostolic Succession?
Church of Christ, must be able to trace her doctrine, her orders, all her mission, to the Apostles of Christ and so ultimately, by Apostolic Succession we mean that Lawful Succession of the hierarchy from the Apostles by means of the Orders validly received while simultaneously having transmitted the same faith of the Apostles. And so in its concrete form, apostolic succession is the unbroken line of bishops stretching back to the apostles, who held communion with Rome.

... Conclusion: It seems clear then that the Catholic Faith and the Catholic Faith alone can claim to be that Church as founded by Christ because She alone, has, beyond all doubt, existed in every age, from the present till the Apostolic age. Her pastors are the only pastors on earth, who can trace their mission from priest to bishop, and from bishop to Pope, back through every century, until they trace that mission to the Apostles, who were commissioned by Christ himself. Hence, it is this Church and This Church alone, which can claim a right to our obedience and our assent in what it propose to us for belief since the faith She holds up for our Belief is non other than that inviolable and immutable truth of God Himself.

... thanks for listening. :-)

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-09   21:22:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#71. To: Artisan (#67)

I believe that you are thoroughly brainwashed (as I admit to once being). I am a Bible believer but am not a Catholic. [Another situation wherein I was allegedly committed before I could make the determination for myself].

You may think it appropriate to gloss over or even ignore the many crimes and inconsistencies of the Roman Church as relates to the teachings of Christ and the Church. Mortal sins aren't mentioned as such in the Bible. All have fallen short. The infallibility doctrine is another Roman insertion that really appears a forgery since Christ also told Peter once "get thee hence satan."

[At one time the Vatican posted a link on their website that contained frescoes depicting papal power over European Kings. I have attempted to re-visit this site numerous times without success. It may have been removed. The frescoes depicted European Kings kissing the Popes ring and bowing before him. This was a portrayal of secular power not to be confused with the humble teachings of Christ.

Selling absolutions to the mafia and even laundering their dirty drug fortunes through the Vatican Bank doesn't exactly fit the criteria set forth by Christ, does it ?

And for you to make an absurd statement that "the Church" alone can claim to have been founded by Christ when in fact the folks that actually became that church had been murdering Christians by the millions from before Christ's death and resurrection until 325 AD makes the claim preposterous.

Christ said "let God be true and ALL MEN LIARS" and the Pope is a man. Some of these men have been well behaved while others have been just like many other narcissistic leaders, thugs and murderers.

The papacy and Catholicism has violated the principles laid down by Christ throughout the ages from simple things such as "call no man father" to collecting "Peter's pence" and dictating policies to other Roman murderer kings. Popes have granted Charters to nation states allowing them to murder "savages" that they encounter while at the same time being admonished to leave Christian land claimants alone.

I too was told that Peter was the rock upon which the church was founded and I even believed that nonsense when I was a kid. But is it more likely that the Church was founded upon Christ being the Messiah or Peter the denier of Christ ? ALSO( I tried to believe that only Catholics were privy to salvation and heaven as taught by the black robe wearing frauds that make up the "church."

Whose words are we to believe, when the scripture admonishes us to not let the left hand know what the right hand is doing when tithing and the Catholic Church makes a public list of what their congregations give. What of the gazillions of idols cluttering up every catholic church in violation of the commandments ? What do you make of the Mary worship within Catholicism ? Why did the Catholic Church destroy Bibles and refuse to let their members read it for centuries ?

I'd really like to state that my dad was an Indianapolis City Fireman and most of the people we associated with were Irish Catholic Firemen along with their families. I haven't met a better bunch of folks in my life. However, that doesn't mean that they, myself, and you weren't misled by the Pagan Roman Catholic Church of Constantine.

The modern day Rabbis claim an unbroken lineage from the Pharisees. And the truth is they were teaching the TRADITIONS of MEN brought back to Jerusalem from Babylon - the same place that gave us Sun(day) worship through Catholicism. Jesus said that the traditions of men made His Father's laws of no effect, and so does the Catholic Church.

Your claim that the "Roman Church has authority" is bogus at best because none have authority from Christ to violate Christ's doctrines. Did Christ dress up like a fish god ? No, but the Babylonian high priests did and so do Popes.

Martin, I'd say that you have taken a lot on "faith" - faith demanded by men claiming only they have the truth and authority over men's souls. That is bullshit of the highest order.

noone222  posted on  2015-10-10   11:06:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#72. To: noone222 (#71)

Very very astute, Doug! Clearly in Mt 16:18 the sense is "on the truth you have confessed, I will build my church". This is the standard interpretation. How could the church have been built on any man?

Catholic kiddies even sing "Peter built the church on the rock of our faith" -- this too is a stretch, but it's not "Jesus built the church on the rock of St. Peter."

"Supporters of papal claims often depicted emperors and kings humbling themselves before popes."

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-10   11:37:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#73. To: NeoconsNailed (#72)

The one thing I always thought odd about being a Catholic even as a kid was that the priests seldom read more than a single sentence from the Bible before expounding Catholic Doctrine. When the Bible states that "they will make merchandise of your souls" it is describing the Roman Church to a tee.

Side Note: I went to a public high school after graduating from a Catholic grade school. I attended Catholic instruction classes one night a week during my freshman year as "mandated" by my parish. During my second year of public high school a priest, Father Ripperger, told us IT WAS A MORTAL SIN" to quit these instruction classes. That was the last instruction class I attended because I didn't think the priest had any authority to create a sin that damned a kid to hell.

Christ taught that we should know the tree by its fruit. The fruit of Catholicism is a very secretive clique of self promoting elites that wear fine linens and pretend holiness while gobbling up the homes and wealth of their misguided and guilt riddled followers. Many widows leave their homes and other property to this vile organization.

Today, the Holy See is handing out maps, money, and other necessary information to complete an underground railroad into the United States for all of those invaders from south of the U.S. border. The Papacy is teaming up with other secretive elites (banksters/Bilderbergers) to create a one world governing body while at the same time incrementally accepting blatant violations of scripture with respect to abortions and homosexuality.

The Papacy has facilitated the reconstruction of the Roman Empire using NATO and the European Union along with the U.S. Military (Praetorian Guard) to enhance the globalist agenda. Why else do communist and capitalist alike kiss the Pope's ring whenever convenient to a G-20 or Bilderberg event ?

The Catholic Church has always been a pagan organization, a wolf in sheep's clothing. There is nothing new under the sun.

noone222  posted on  2015-10-11   8:31:48 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#76. To: noone222 (#73)

Amen amen! The RCC's authority shtick is in fact its downfall. Either the Bible or the "teaching" and "tradition" are -- it can't be both. You're paraphrasing the good Book quite aptly here. And as you point out, the RCC is helping to kill amerika the fastest way there is without bombs -- replacement demographics.

Next to this GENOCIDE, the question of what a plope thinks of socialism looks pretty silly in a way, doesn't it? Destruction of borders plus endless free handouts, services and perks for the invaders IS SOCIALISM.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-10-11   20:48:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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#78. To: NeoconsNailed (#76)

There are a lot of good folks in the government and in the churches. Those in the government these days ignore their founding documents just as the churches are doing.

If the churches were to regain their backbone and stand according to scripture things would be quite different. However, the churches have acquiesced to the 501(c)(3) grant from the government rather than stand together and let Uncle Sambo know that the tithe is GOD's money, the Bible is GOD's word, and the government has no legitimate claim. Instead, the Churches take the money and report to the government what every giver donates as part of their obligation under govt granted 501 status which in actuality is THEIR GOD. The reporting of tithes is strictly forbidden by scripture.

The only thing a human being has to offer God is trust. Today most men/women trust man and not God. I say, if God be for me, who can be against me ?

noone222  posted on  2015-10-12 08:55:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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