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Title: He'd Let Them Swarm In, Now He'd kick Them Out: Trump Does Drastic 180 on Syrian Immigrants In less Than A Month, His Desperate, Starry-Eyed Supporters Don't Even Notice
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URL Source: http://libertyfight.com/2015/trump_ ... ic_180_on_Syrian_refugees.html
Published: Oct 6, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-10-06 14:00:35 by Artisan
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Views: 2811
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"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to." - Donald Trump on Syrian refugees into the United States, less than 30 days ago

Look, everyone knows we need a real game-changer in this country, someone who cares about America. But let's not be so naive, gullible and desperate as to so easily fall for yet another one of these shysters. Just like his sudden, drastic "about-faces" on gun rights and illegal immigration, Donald "I'm A Big Fan Of Israel" Trump said less than 25 days ago that we must let Syrian immigrants in because it's a "humanitarian disaster" and the poor migrants were "in a living hell." This was reported worldwide including on CNN, Breitbart, Politico, Fox news and everywhere else. This week he's saying the exact opposite, that he would send them back, (presumably send back the same ones he promised to let in?) Where I come from theres an old saying which applies in this case. Trump's "so full of shit his eyes are brown." Also, here are his quotes supporting the assault weapons ban, longer 'waiting lists' and as well as his promotion of amnesty for the "good" illegal aliens who have not "broken the law." Yes his lines are good, (depending on which way the wind is blowing) but savvy political observers who know about gun rights, immigration and pro-life issues know that this Clinton and Harry Reid donor is as trustworthy as a used car salesman.

This week, it was reported: Donald Trump says he'd send back Syrian refugees taken in by the US

But less than a month ago, he said what he would really do, the exact opposite! It was widely reported worldwide:

  • CNN: Trump: U.S. Should Accept Some Syrian Refugees September 8, 2015 Washington (CNN)—Donald Trump thinks the United States should accept some refugees from Syria due to the "unbelievable humanitarian problem." Trump has made anti-immigration rhetoric a cornerstone of his campaign, but the Republican presidential candidate said Tuesday evening that though the migrants could pose a security risk -- floating the idea that there may be individuals with ties to Islamic militants -- he supported allowing them into America. "I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to," Trump said to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly.

  • Politico: Trump Calls For Taking In Syrian Refugees

  • Breitbart: "You Have To": Trump Would Allow Syrian Refugees Into America

On guns, Trump has openly called for gun bans, and to this day supports longer waiting lists and 'background checks.' And in a recent interview with a gun rights group, he did not retract his position on assault weapons ban, but rather quibbled about the defintion of what's considered an assault weapon.

Here are some of the priceless comments from the gun rights forum from people who don't fall for Trump's b.s.:

  • Why is there a “no firearms” sign on the doors at Trump Towers?
  • Vanns40 says: Trump refuses to answer the question regarding expanding waiting periods and artfully sidestepped the assault weapons controversy. Be very careful in supporting someone who refuses to be explicit in their answers.
  • Judd Paynter says: I cannot believe you guys are being suckered by this man. WHO EVER VOTES FOR TRUMP…A FLAMING LIBERAL AT HEART, IS NOT A TRUE PATRIOT AMERICAN, BUT NOTHING MORE THAN RINOS WHO LIKE DUMOCRATS ARE THE RUINATION OF AMERICA. While Trump is not a prophet, this scripture fits those being deceived by him. Matthew 24:24 “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” You Trump zombies are no different than the sheeple who voted for Obama, and you will get the same from Trump. You will pay for having even supported Trump, but by then it will be too late.
  • Read Trumps comments, he and Hillary hold the exact same position on gun control. The NRA should compromise and support background checks, longer waiting periods and a ban on assault rifles. On guns he and Hillary are the same. Why would any gun owner support this?

  • The Donald .I must pass on. He is clearly no fan of citizen ownership of AR-15’s and magazines holding more than 10 rounds. He is a 1% elitist .Those untouchable gated community people who think they know better. Than the yeoman, common folk ,of America. If he is not like Bill % Hitlery Clinton. Why did he donate $100,000 to Clinton’s Globalist Initiative Foundation? Globalist really ? We are 7% of the world’s population. But we are unique .We are the greatest nation on this planet. These globalists want us to forget about being citizens of America. They want us to be citizen’s of the world. Worse they want us to be a vassal state to the United Nations. I say birds of a feather flock together. Historically nich people and gangsters in N.Y.City can get a pistol permit sidestepping the Sullivan Law. The common yeoman folk ,not very often. Besides Hitlery has already been chosen by the Globalist -Bilderburg’s to be the next POTUS. Presidents are not elected they are selected by the multinationals, bankers and globalists. At least I know who is pissing down my back and why. And it is not rain. All smoke n mirrors. Most Americans are asleep at the wheel. A hamburger and television mentality. We have lost the republic, that we were given !!!

  • If Donald the Scofflaw Trump is so successful at running businesses, why the multiple bankruptcies? Or is “running businesses into the ground” what you meant?

Here is Trump's waffling on immigration, backing away from his support of amnesty now that he's pretending to be a 'conservative.'

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#65. To: Artisan (#0)

CNN: Trump: U.S. Should Accept Some Syrian Refugees September 8, 2015 Washington (CNN)—Donald Trump thinks the United States should accept some refugees from Syria due to the "unbelievable humanitarian problem." Trump has made anti-immigration rhetoric a cornerstone of his campaign, but the Republican presidential candidate said Tuesday evening that though the migrants could pose a security risk -- floating the idea that there may be individuals with ties to Islamic militants -- he supported allowing them into America. "I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to," Trump said to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly.

Just saying on the refugee issue that there's much difference between refugee status and illegal alien migration. Refugees aren't considered to be immigrants exactly, are verified as humanitarian or political asylum seeking cases, are monitored as such and limitless numbers are not permitted to swarm in, afaik.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-10-09   16:01:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#70. To: GreyLmist, neoconsnailed (#65)

Just saying on the refugee issue that there's much difference between refugee status and illegal alien migration.

tell that to the poor white europeans who are being raped, robbed and terrorized by these alleged ''refugee'' savages, who are all young black /muslim men! no gramdmas, mothers, toddlers at all. this whole thing is some sort of sham.

but aside from that, even if refugees were different than migrants, (essentially economic refugees), my point was not to debate the difference between refugees and migrants, but rather to point out that TRUMP SAID WE NEED TO BRING THE SYRIANS IN, and then 20 some days later he's blustering I'D KICK THEM ALL OUT"! and people cheer him as if they have no freaking clue at all that a number of hours previously he said the polar, exact 180 opposite.

he insists ludicrously that we need to let them flock in, and then 20 days later blusters "i'd kick them out." First of all, anyone not retarded knows that the president has zero authority to ''kick anyone out'' of the u.s. once they are in, they are entitled to a lengthy, very slow immigration hearing process. that pesky rule of law thing. hundreds of thousands of them would take years for this and none of them would ever leave. we dont live in a cartoon show. trump is like a bad cartoon character.

this combover Harry reid donor is beyond a clown and reading some weird script, written by (???) depending on which way the wind blows at the moment. i actually miss rand paul at this point and thats saying a lot! lol!

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-10   1:40:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#74. To: Artisan (#70)

The one thing I always thought odd about being a Catholic even as a kid was that the priests seldom read more than a single sentence from the Bible before expounding Catholic Doctrine. When the Bible states that "they will make merchandise of your souls" it is describing the Roman Church to a tee.

Side Note: I went to a public high school after graduating from a Catholic grade school. I attended Catholic instruction classes one night a week during my freshman year as "mandated" by my parish. During my second year of public high school a priest, Father Ripperger, told us IT WAS A MORTAL SIN" to quit these instruction classes. That was the last instruction class I attended because I didn't think the priest had any authority to create a sin that damned a kid to hell.

Christ taught that we should know the tree by its fruit. The fruit of Catholicism is a very secretive clique of self promoting elites that wear fine linens and pretend holiness while gobbling up the homes and wealth of their misguided and guilt riddled followers. Many widows leave their homes and other property to this vile organization.

Today, the Holy See is handing out maps, money, and other necessary information to complete an underground railroad into the United States for all of those invaders from south of the U.S. border. The Papacy is teaming up with other secretive elites (banksters/Bilderbergers) to create a one world governing body while at the same time incrementally accepting blatant violations of scripture with respect to abortions and homosexuality.

The Papacy has facilitated the reconstruction of the Roman Empire using NATO and the European Union along with the U.S. Military (Praetorian Guard) to enhance the globalist agenda. Why else do communist and capitalist alike kiss the Pope's ring whenever convenient to a G-20 or Bilderberg event ?

The Catholic Church has always been a pagan organization, a wolf in sheep's clothing. There is nothing new under the sun.

noone222  posted on  2015-10-11   10:34:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#75. To: noone222 (#74)

while at the same time incrementally accepting blatant violations of scripture with respect to abortions and homosexuality.

The church has never approved of either abortion or homosexuality; it plainly forbids and condemns both. Matter of fact, Margaret Sanger, founder of planned parenbthood, admtitted that her main adversary was the Catholic church and her motivation was to go against the Catholic church. So the abortionists you rightly deride know who their main enemy was/is, even if you don't.
Mike Wallace questions Margaret Sanger on Eugenics, Her opposition to the Catholic Church, 1957

Bush senior, the 'globalist' (Satanist) and population control advocate, was also against the church and vowed to fight the Catholic churhc, from the floor of congress no less!
George H.W. Bush: Evil Population Control Ghoul: "RUBBERS GOES TO CONGRESS"

By the way, every single one of those protestant "martin luther inspired' break-offs from the true church wholeheartedly endorse artificial contraception, which is a sin and straight from satan. guess who forbids it?

Thats right.

Why else do communist and capitalist alike kiss the Pope's ring whenever convenient to a G-20 or Bilderberg event ?

Maybe because they know who's boss., and who will win in the end?

The Catholic Church has always been a pagan organization, a wolf in sheep's clothing.

We will never agree on this.

How Old Is Your Church?

If you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin Luther, an ex- monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.

If you belong to the Church of England, your religion was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant him a divorce with the right to remarry.

If you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.

If you are a Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an offshoot of the Church of England founded by Samuel Seabury in the American colonies in the 17th century.

If you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by Robert Brown in Holland in 1582.

If you are a Methodist, your religion was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.

If you are a Unitarian, Theophilus Lindley founded your church in London in 1774.

If you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started your religion in Palmyra, N.Y., in 1829.

If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1605.

If you are of the Dutch Reformed church, you recognize Michaelis Jones as founder, because he originated your religion in New York in 1628.

If you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with William Booth in London in 1865.

If you are a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.

If you belong to one of the religious organizations known as 'Church of the Nazarene," "Pentecostal Gospel." "Holiness Church," "Pilgrim Holiness Church," "Jehovah's Witnesses," your religion is one of the hundreds of new sects founded by men within the past century.

If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-11   11:26:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#77. To: Artisan (#75) (Edited)

If you are Catholic, you know that your religion was founded in the year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the same Church.

In my estimation most organized "churches" have adopted Catholicism in practice. They may speak against the Catholic church but in operation they adhere to most of the Catholic doctrines with few exceptions.

Many of these churches have Halloween parties, celebrate Easter, even have Easter Egg hunts, and celebrate Christmas which are all pagan rituals that were blended into Christianity by the Roman Church.

Halloween is death worship (necromancy), Easter is fertility worship, and Christmas is the celebration of the winter solstice (Saturnalia), all are pagan. When I was yet a Catholic they spoke of relics such as a bone or some artifact possessed by a so-called saint, that we could pray to for certain causes. St Christopher medals and other voodoo talismans are employed.

I notice that you often refer to the church's position rather than the Biblical position. Do you recall going to confession as a kid and being instructed by the priest to say 5 Hail Mary's and 5 Our Father's to atone for your sins ?

Confession starts when the confessor states "bless me father for I have sinned". Christ instructed us to "call no man father" but our Heavenly Father ... Christ also admonished us against making repetitive prayers such as saying the rosary or 5 hail Mary's and 5 Our Father's.

You either trust in man or you trust in God's word. At one point in the scriptures Paul states "you worship what you know not" ... speaking of a shrine to the UNKNOWN god. I have known and loved many Catholics in my lifetime but they have been misled by "the church" just as many other denominational churches mislead their flocks.

Martin, I was raised Catholic and believed it to be the true Church just as I was taught by the Catholic Church. However, when I started studying the Bible it became blatantly obvious that the Roman Catholic Church was not only a sham, it was deadly evil and it made merchandise of men's souls.

Catholics are expected to believe their priests and the Pope without comparing the teachings of the Church to those of the scriptures.

Christ taught that at the judgment there would be many claiming to have cast out demons and healed the sick in His name to which He replied "depart from me for I NEVER knew you" ... who do you suppose that would be ?

noone222  posted on  2015-10-12   8:17:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#82. To: noone222 (#77)

Halloween is death worship (necromancy), Easter is fertility worship, and Christmas is the celebration of the winter solstice (Saturnalia), all are pagan. When I was yet a Catholic they spoke of relics such as a bone or some artifact possessed by a so-called saint, that we could pray to for certain causes. St Christopher medals and other voodoo talismans are employed.

I notice that you often refer to the church's position rather than the Biblical position. Do you recall going to confession as a kid and being instructed by the priest to say 5 Hail Mary's and 5 Our Father's to atone for your sins ?

Confession starts when the confessor states "bless me father for I have sinned". Christ instructed us to "call no man father" but our Heavenly Father ... Christ also admonished us against making repetitive prayers such as saying the rosary or 5 hail Mary's and 5 Our Father's.

You either trust in man or you trust in God's word. At one point in the scriptures Paul states "you worship what you know not" ... speaking of a shrine to the UNKNOWN god. I have known and loved many Catholics in my lifetime but they have been misled by "the church" just as many other denominational churches mislead their flocks.

Martin, I was raised Catholic and believed it to be the true Church just as I was taught by the Catholic Church. However, when I started studying the Bible it became blatantly obvious that the Roman Catholic Church was not only a sham, it was deadly evil and it made merchandise of men's souls.

Catholics are expected to believe their priests and the Pope without comparing the teachings of the Church to those of the scriptures.

I know you were raised Catholic and I know you're sincere in what you believe, (i'd say you still are Catholic, since baptised Catholics are Catholic). we used to call them called 'fallen-aways,' i have at least a few 'fallen away' relatives!

what you're referring to above is 'sola scriptura'. since the church is the one who gave us the bible, and the church existed prior to the new testament, how is all truth supposed to originate in the bible since Christianity was established prior to it???

http://www.catholicbasictraining.com/apologetics/coursetexts/1n.htm

Historical arguments against sola scriptura

The history of the Bible shows, very clearly, that the Church was the organization who made the Bible and that the Church is older than the Bible. The Bible itself shows that there were Christians before a word of the New Testament was written – the whole of the book of Acts, for example, describes the early life of the Church from the Ascension of Jesus onwards. There is no doubt whatsoever that these people were Christians.

However, these people cannot have had a copy of the New Testament – the last book of the New Testament was written around 100 AD. Before that date no Christian could have had a complete “Bible” as we understand it today. If the Bible is the “sole source of Christian teaching and knowledge” as sola scriptura claims, how can these people have been Christians? Peter, Paul, James, John and Andrew never saw a complete modern Bible – what they had was the Old Testament Scriptures and the preaching and Tradition of the Church.

Also: Twenty One Reasons to Reject Sola Scriptura

You probably know you'll never convince me of your point of view, and i, even though i would hope to, might not convince you either, so we're at an impasse.

i'd just ask you to examine precisely who originated all these anti catholic arguments that you were exposed to as a youngster. what was THEIR background? their training? their credentials? what is their creed?

much of it, Im not saying in your case, but most of the anti Catholic propaganda originated in 1789, with the french revolution. their ideas still permeate today in all countries, even though their adherents might not realize that theyre reading someone's (the freemasons) script. i have relatives in the usa and mexico who spout the same exact lines. "organized religion is simply to control the masses."...

Artisan  posted on  2015-10-12   23:32:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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#87. To: Artisan (#82)

most of the anti Catholic propaganda originated in 1789, with the french revolution. their ideas still permeate today in all countries, even though their adherents might not realize that theyre reading someone's (the freemasons) script.

02/18/2013: [Pope Benedict XVI/Fr. Joseph] Ratzinger ... on the future of the Church - Vatican Insider

A week after Benedict XVI's shock [retirement] announcement, an important statement he once made comes to light ... made 40 years ago on the future of Christianity by a young Bavarian theologian, Joseph Ratzinger.

In five little known radio speeches made in 1969 and published again a while ago by Ignatius Press in the volume “Faith and the Future”, the future Pope gave his vision of the future of man and the Church.

Ratzinger said he was convinced the Church was going through an era similar to the Enlightenment and the French Revolution. “We are at a huge turning point – he explained – in the evolution of mankind. This moment makes the move from Medieval to modern times seem insignificant.” Professor Ratzinger compared the current era to that of Pope Pius VI who was abducted by troops of the French Republic and died in prison in 1799. The Church was fighting against a force which intended to annihilate it definitively, confiscating its property and dissolving religious orders.

Today's Church could be faced with a similar situation, undermined, according to Ratzinger, by the temptation to reduce priests to “social workers” and it and all its work reduced to a mere political presence.

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-10-16 05:34:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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