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Title: JFK #17: Daniel Sheehan and Alternative Theories of the JFK Assassination Nov. 21, 2013
Source: youtube
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnR ... YAa03WA8QKncGVNolcdAn&index=17
Published: Nov 29, 2015
Author: Dan Sheehan
Post Date: 2015-11-29 11:05:18 by noone222
Keywords: None
Views: 138
Comments: 26


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You won't believe the statements made in this video at approx 55 minutes and afterwards.

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#1. To: All (#0)

The place to start listening is at 50 .3 minutes. (Sorry).

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-11-29   12:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: noone222 (#0)

Anyone that has looked at Gehlen, long ago, knows full well that Shehan is spinning a web.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-11-29   12:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: noone222 (#1)

Daniel Sheehan mentions Ted Shackley as being installed as CIA operations chief for the Western Hemisphere.

Shackley was involved in the flights to supply the Contra's in Nicaragua. They made these flights out of the airport in Mena, Arkansas when Bill Clinton was Governor. One of our C-123s was shot down by the Nicaraguans. The pilot was Eugene Hasenfus.

www.nytimes.com/1986/12/1...guans-and-heads-home.html

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-29   12:19:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2) (Edited)

Anyone that has looked at Gehlen, long ago, knows full well that Shehan is spinning a web.

This name, Gehlen, rang a bell. I looked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Gehlen

The Gehlen Organization was involved in Soviet Counter-Intelligence.

Operation Gladio was one of their primary operations.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-29   12:22:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#2)

Anyone that has looked at Gehlen, long ago, knows full well that Shehan is spinning a web.

Why do you say that ? And, what about Shackley ?

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-11-29   12:22:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#4)

Gehlen was a freaking Nazi that had much to do with creating our national security state ... Amerika has become a fascist shit hole.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-11-29   12:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

Shackey was also involved in the CIA heroin operation out of the Golden Triangle with Armitage.

We have been lied to about most everything (except the Easter Bunny) all of our lives.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-11-29   12:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: noone222 (#7)

Shackey was also involved in the CIA heroin operation out of the Golden Triangle with Armitage.

I do remember this, the effects of the meningitis are fading away. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-29   12:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: noone222 (#6)

Gehlen was a freaking Nazi that had much to do with creating our national security state

Yes, he was. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-29   12:33:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: noone222 (#5)

Why do you say that ? And, what about Shackley ?

Shackley I do not recall.

Gehlen, I did much research and study on MANY years ago.

Gehlen was despised, hated and mistrusted by Hitler. The intelligence Gehlen produced was ignored by the General Staff on Hitlers orders.

Delve into Gehlen. His intelligence provided to Hitler was so accurate, so timely that Hitler ordered him ignored and that he was a Russian spy.

Example...If you are a history buff, you recall the battle of Kursk? Gehlen warned Hitler ahead of time that the Soviets were aware of the timing and the place. Gehlen even produced names of Soviet units etc etc.

General Gehlen was known as the Grey Wolf. He was first intelligence person to use brain work instead of brawn to obtain intelligence.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-11-29   12:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Cynicom (#10)

Taking that info into consideration really hasn't much to do with the current state of affairs here in the USA. All it really says is that Gehlen was a committed Nazi; whether Hitler listened to him or not is irrelevant.

Our nation's descent into a security state has developed beyond any ability to terminate it. It has become Frankenstein intent upon the destruction of its creator and has become such a monolith that it operates completely autonomously above the law.

The idea of incorporating the Nazis into the American system is repulsive to me and it's a shame the country as a whole is so gullible.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-11-29   12:48:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: noone222 (#11)

The idea of incorporating the Nazis into the American system is repulsive to me and it's a shame the country as a whole is so gullible.

Nazis or Germans???

Nazi term is used by Jews as a catchall characterization.

For instance numerous German generals and Field Marshalls were Jews. Were they Jews, Germans or Nazis?

Cynicom  posted on  2015-11-29   12:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#10) (Edited)

Shackley I do not recall.

Shackley was CIA station chief in Miami and in Laos.

search.yahoo.com/yhs/sear...art=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-002

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-29   13:22:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Cynicom (#12)

Or all three? seems to me.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-11-29   13:36:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#6)

Amerika has become a fascist shit hole.

Wow. Thanks for this. It's sort of a "unified field theory" of the JFK assassination.

Sheehan's saying that the fascists and the communists (to aggregate them crudely) are both of them two sides of the same dialectical materialist coin.

And as we see today, operatives of BOTH camps are deeply interwoven in the matrix of power in the US and the West, and BOTH of them are tools of globalist mega-finance.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-11-29   13:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#15)

And as we see today, operatives of BOTH camps are deeply interwoven in the matrix of power in the US and the West, and BOTH of them are tools of globalist mega-finance.

Yes ... I've been calling it the commie-fascist state. I agree with your assessment.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-11-29   13:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#15)

globalist mega-finance

I hear that the FED has perpetrated a Trillion Dollar stealth QE upon us all. That is another reason we are all doomed. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-29   13:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: randge (#15) (Edited)

fascists and the communists

Both of them, as soon as they gained power, the first thing they did was to ban the private ownership of firearms. This is the hallmark of tyranny.

We here in the U.S. at least have the advantage of the 2nd Amendment, which they do not have in all the other places in the world. Hang onto your guns, and never give them up, unless they pry them from your cold, dead fingers. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-29   14:04:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: BTP Holdings, noone222 (#18)

Seems like Izzy's out of the equation, as far as Sheehan is concerned.

Heh heh.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-11-29   18:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: randge (#19)

Seems like Izzy's out of the equation, as far as Sheehan is concerned.

I think the elite Jews were partnered up with the Nazis.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-11-29   19:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: noone222 (#20)

Critics of JFK assassination conspiracy theories contend that a conspiracy so immense would require a vast number of people involved. In fact, the actual mechanics of the conspiracy described in Final Judgment involve perhaps less than twenty people at a maximum.
Most of the people involved in the actual assassination planning were probably not even aware of the activities of others at other levels of the conspiracy.
Let us name, for the record, those whom we believe had advance knowledge that John F. Kennedy was going to be killed on November: 22,1963. They are:
• Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion;
• Israeli Mossad assassinations chief Yitzhak Shamir;
• Permindex chief executive officer Louis M. Bloomfield;
• Mossad officer and Permindex banker Rabbi Tibor Rosenbaum; • CIA Counterintelligence chief James J. Angleton;
• French intelligence officer Georges deLannurien;
• Crime Syndicate boss Meyer Lansky;
• Tampa Mafia chief (and Lansky lieutenant) Santo Trafficante, Jr;
• New Orleans Mafia chief (and Lansky lieutenant) Carlos Marcello;
• Mafia "ambassador" Johnny Rosselli;
• Chicago Mafia boss Sam Giancana; and
• The actual shooters in Dealey Plaza.

Evidence strongly points toward French mercenary Michael Mertz as one of those gunmen. Cuban exiles Guillermo and Ignacio Novo also appear to have been involved.

PEOPLE ON THE PERIPHERY

Here are those persons who were engaged in some form of activity that tied them to the assassination (whether or not they were aware that an actual assassination would indeed take place): • Lee Harvey Oswald;
• CIA operative E. Howard Hunt;
• CIA station chief for Mexico City, David Atlee Phillips;
• CIA contract agent and Permindex board member Clay Shaw;
• CIA contract agent Guy Banister;
• CIA contract agent David Ferrie;
• Maurice Brooks Gatlin; Permindex courier;
• CIA contract agent Robert Morrow;
• Meyer Lansky's West Coast henchman, Mickey Cohen;
• Israeli diplomat (later Prime Minister) Menachem Begin;
• Mickey Cohen's associate AI Gruber;
• Dallas mob associate Jack Ruby; and
• CIA associate, U.S. Senator John Tower.

Various members of the CIA, figures in the Mafia and the Lansky Syndicate, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, and some investigators for the Warren Commission and the subsequent House Assassinations Committee may have gleaned some information over the years as to portions of what had happened, but few, if any, would be aware of the entirety of the conspiracy.

Those on the periphery participated in various aspects of the cover-up (for their own reasons) as did certain figures in the media such as Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson, among others.

There is also a final person who learned a part of how the conspiracy was carried out: French President Charles DeGaulle, whose own intelligence service was compromised by the Israeli Mossad.

A FINAL JUDGMENT ...

The evidence we have put forth demonstrates that there is a very strong foundation for the thesis presented in this volume. It is a scenario that does make sense.
This is our final judgment: the government of Israel, through its secret spy agency, the Mossad, orchestrated the conspiracy that ended the life of John F. Kennedy.
Through its own vast resources and through its international contacts in the intelligence community and in organized crime, Israel had the means, it had the motive, and it had the opportunity to carry out the crime of the century-and did.

Final Judgment, Michael Collins Piper, pp. 304-305

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan

randge  posted on  2015-11-29   21:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: BTP Holdings (#18)

I hate to contradict you, but that's not true about Adolf.

Thank you Cyni for your above attempt to keep this subject from being as stupidized here as it is elsewhere. I don't personally think Hitler and the good Nazis (the many Jews among them included) deserve any opprobrium -- if they'd had their way, there never would have been a World War Jue, a Jue World Order, communist Eurasia and Cuba, divided Germany, and white countries would still be proudly white in defiance of all PC.

Anti-Nazi fervor is, to me, sick. Everything we're up against today -- the entire NWO headache -- exists because the world has listened to the Jues instead of Adolf. ALL the perpetrators LIVE to curse him and to convince us they're saving us from his supernatural, universe-gobbling malevolence.

TELL 'EM , ED!

The Fable of The Ducks and The Hens
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5r3AQ37zM

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-11-30   6:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: NeoconsNailed (#22)

From the link you provided.

propagandaprofessor.net/2...-myth-of-hitlers-gun-ban/

What he did say, seven years later, was this: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.” So it’s fair to conclude that he believed “gun control” had its uses. But that’s quite a different thing from claiming that “gun control” was instrumental in the Nazi rise to power.

And the truth is that no gun law was passed in Germany in 1935. There was no need for one, since a gun registration program was already in effect in Germany; it was enacted in 1928, five years before Hitler’s ascendancy. But that law did not “outlaw” guns, it just restricted their possession to individuals who were considered law-abiding citizens, and who had a reason to own one. And there’s no reason to consider that law particularly significant, either; the Nazis didn’t seize control of their own country with gunpowder. They used a much more potent weapon: propaganda.

I do remember this from history at some point in time from reading The Barnes Review. Good history magazine. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-30   17:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: BTP Holdings (#23)

I've just finished reading a 2005 TBR left by a 95yo friend who died. Includes an article on the Templars (a neocon friend of mine wants to revive the order to fight AYRABS) and one by Dr. Rhome called Islam & Judaism: Some Surprising Similarities. Weren't we just on that exact subject here?

There are bunch of letters to the editor falling all over the editors for writing up J.R.R. Tolkien in a prior issue. None mentions any socio-ethnic overtones, they just go ga-ga about how "not only the ents, but the huorns" attacked Isengard -- whatever the aitch that is. Another letter is inconsiderately titled Uncle Sam Wants you for Cannon Fodder.

On a whim I just checked to see if there's any mention of Carto a month after his demise at TBR or AFP sites -- there isn't, which I hope means they're ready to go forward as usual for the next 100 years.

Always keep a lit box in the car, gang. Once in a park I talked to a guy using a metal detector. He had an accent that turned out to be a Polish -- and was dumfounded when I fished out a TBR for him featuring a Poland- related cover story. Maybe he started to learn some real Polish history that day?

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-11-30   18:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: NeoconsNailed (#24)

Willis Carto

Willis Carto made himself a target.

The Jews burned down Liberty Library, destroying the manuscript of Belgian Gen. Leon Degrelle of the Waffen SS. When Degrelle heard of this he said, "I think I'll just die." Three days later he was dead. Degrelle was a part of the last ditch defense of Berlin from the Soviet onslaught.

Carto also founded the Institute for Historical Review, which is still active. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-11-30   19:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: BTP Holdings (#25)

Right! And never forget, world, that they burned down Ernst Zündel's entire 3- story house full of rightist history and suppressed truth. Such nice people, they're kind to every living creature just like Casper! Jues just love all humanity, they're it's moral conscience blah blah.

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2015-12-01   4:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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