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Title: Sally Abdelmageed, Witness, Contradicts Govt, Media About Bernardino Shootings
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Published: Dec 8, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-12-08 10:08:50 by christine
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In a phone interview with CBS Abdelmageed explained:

“I heard shots fired and it was from you know an automatic weapon. […] very unusual. Why would we hear shots? As we looked out the window a second set of shots goes off […] and we saw a man fall to the floor. Then we just looked and we saw three men dressed in all black, military attire, with vests on they were holding assault rifles. As soon as they opened up the doors to building three […] one of them […] started to shoot into the room.”

When asked what the gunman that shot into the room looked like the eyewitness replied: “I couldn’t see a face, he had a black hat on […] black cargo pants, the kind with the big puffy pockets on the side […] long sleeve shirt […] gloves […huge assault riffle […] six magazines […] I just saw three dressed exactly the same”.

“You are certain you saw three men,” the newscaster asked Abdelmageed.

“Yes,” said Abdelmageed. https://www.intellihub.com/eyewitness...

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Pelley – “One of the witnesses today is Sally Abdelmageed, who works at the Inland Regional Center, the building where the attack took place. She saw the attackers enter the building and we spoke to her by phone.”

Abdelmageed – “I heard, um, shots fired and, you know, it was from an automatic weapon. So, you know, it’s very unusual why, you know, why would we hear shots? As we look out the window, a second set of shots goes off and it’s just pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. And we saw, a man fall to the floor. Then we just looked and we saw, three men dressed in all black, um, military attire with vests on and assault rifles. And they, then they opened up the doors to building 3, and one of them opened up the door to building 3, he starts to um, sprayed, shoot. You know, he just shoots all over into the room. The room that we typically have conferences in, I just, we just heard more gunshots go off. Like, I got my phone. I, I reached for my phone and I, I called 911. Um, and I just hid under my desk. I didn’t see anymore, I just heard more gunshots go off as I was talking to the to the dispatch. We went into my managers office, locked the door, barricaded it. We, heard running and and things happening upstairs. About 30 minutes later, someone came to the door and knocked on the door, but we didn’t obviously answer. And then, another 15 minutes later someone came and took us into a secure room.”

Pelley – “Miss Abdelmageed, can you describe to me, in as much detail as you can, what did the gunmen look like?”

Abdulmageed – “I couldn’t see his face. He had a black hat on and, um, from my view all I could see was just a black hat and black long sleeve shirt. Possibly gloves on. Um, he had black cargo pants on, with all kinds of zippers on the sides and the big puffy pockets. Uh, he, he had a huge assault rifle and he had extra ammo. He was coming ready for, he was probably ready for something, to reload, I don’t know. He had like magazines, um, I couldn’t see what else. I saw, it was, I just saw 3. Dressed exactly the same.”

Pelley – “You’re certain you saw 3 men?”

Abdulmageed – “Yes. It looked like there skin color was, yeah, was white. They looked like they were athletic build. And, um, they, they they appeared to be tall.”

Pelley – “And of course we have just learned one of the suspects was actually a woman.” http://dailyhaze.com/witness-to-the-s...

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“I did not know Syed Farook very well. We worked in different departments. Once I was told it was him and his wife that did this, I couldn’t believe it. They have a new baby. He was very polite. Every time you walked by him he said hello. It is hard to believe that he did all of this. When the shooting was going on Farook never said a word and neither did his wife. It seemed like they had a mission that needed no words.” http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/1st-eyewit...

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#1. To: All (#0)

Sally Abdelmageed's Facebook page

www.facebook.com/abdelmageed4

christine  posted on  2015-12-08   10:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#1)

Ooops.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-12-08   11:26:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1)

Gone with the wind !

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-12-08   12:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#0)

“I couldn’t see a face, he had a black hat on […] black cargo pants, the kind with the big puffy pockets on the side […] long sleeve shirt […] gloves […huge assault riffle […] six magazines […] I just saw three dressed exactly the same”.

Abdulmageed – “Yes. It looked like there skin color was, yeah, was white.

Dressed head to toe so as not to expose any skin but SHE saw White men anyway. Oh, she had time in the midst of being shot at to stop and count the EXACT number of spare magazines in their chest pouches. Wow, what a load of bullshit.....

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“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2015-12-08   13:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#0)

I have a question. The building the attacks took place in, and those around it, had to have had security cameras somewhere. Where's the video of the perps entering the building or their activities outside the building, and why hasn't anybody inquired about them?

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-12-08   18:50:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

The tapes are where the Pentagon tapes are.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-12-08   18:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#4)

What was her motive to lie? To protect Christine's crazy conspiracy theory?

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-12-08   18:57:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#6)

Yeah, they've become a part of Dick Cheney's collection of snuff-films.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-12-08   18:59:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Obnoxicated (#8)

BigDick should have quite a library by now.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-12-08   19:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Obnoxicated (#8)

Dick Cheney's collection of snuff-films.

LOL

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-12-08   19:15:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#1)

http://www.facebook.com/abdelmageed4

I clicked the link, and this is what I got.

Sorry, this content isn't available right now

The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2015-12-08   19:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: X-15, christine, neoconsnailed, titorite (#4)

Dressed head to toe so as not to expose any skin but SHE saw White men anyway. Oh, she had time in the midst of being shot at to stop and count the EXACT number of spare magazines in their chest pouches.

That is one point i noticed yesterday, which no one has addressed. if he was covered from head to toe, with a mask, hat, gloves, long sleeves, etc, how did she know he/they were white?

on the other hand, she may have seen their skin. and also, clothes are not the only way you can determine someones race. for example if a black or chinese guy had on a mask, I'd still be able to tell their race.

i have one other point. if you claim shes lying , does this mean ''she's in on it.''? in other words, if you don't believe there's any conspiracy, yet if this woman went on the national news to purposely tell a false tale, moments after the shooting, that itself is a GIANT "conspiracy theory." I don't think there's any evidence to point to Sally A. being part of some nefarious 'plot' or 'conspiracy.'

I think she's a legit witness because several other people referred to the three white guys including an older mexican man and two news broadcasts airing live coverage that i have seen.

P.S. As I said yesterday, Alex Jones and his clown crew of jew-toadies is NOT going to get any interview with Sally, ever. You can take that to the bank. LOL. :-)

I think everyone here can believe me.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-08   19:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Artisan (#12)

I think the point X is trying to make is that the lady has an arab name, so she must be lying to cover her arab brethren.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2015-12-08   20:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Obnoxicated (#13)

but that would be quite the conspiracy theory.

why in he world would a woman want to cover for someone who just murdered 14 people?

it would take an extremely rare breed to do such a thing especially based on alleged race or religious alignment in such a massacre.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-08   20:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#3)

why is the page not working for anyone else but it still works for me?

{I was there last week anyway and saved everything of relevance. ;-)

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-08   20:29:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Artisan (#15)

It's in your device's cache.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-12-08   20:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#16)

It's in your device's cache.

oh that is interesting. so you cannot see it at all? it's gone?

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-08   21:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Artisan (#17)

yes, it's gone for us. here's some more sb info -

www.infowars.com/san-bern...three-white-men-shooting/

I'm not sure why you have such a hard-on against the one person who's done more to awaken the world about the late hour that we're all in.

I really don't get it.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-12-08   21:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod, christine, titorite, jethro tull, formerlurker (#18)

I'm not sure why you have such a hard-on against the one person who's done more to awaken the world about the late hour that we're all in.

I really don't get it.

I'll tell you why, my friend.

I don't like how he is now saying after almost 15 years that the Saudis did 9/11. that is complete B.S. i posted this following detail before, and i dont think it should be brushed aside, it should be addressed. about how he whitewashes stuff insisting that 'we've been vindicated,' the muslims were cheering, and claims for his proof that "it was in the washington post and reported by dan rather."

Lets stick with those two very specific examples.

they are both complete lies, an inverting of what the WP and DR said. The quote in bizpac which infowars ran, about the alleged cheering muzzies, the WP quote was the ONLY actual source that Bizpac quoted, other than endless anonymous twitter posts. Now the WP published an extremely detailed and lengthy rebuttal of that claim the very next day. i linked to it,. The WP quote, published on 9/18/01, stated nothing whatsoever about muslims, . it was referring specifically to the people dancing on a rooftop in nj, who were arrested. those were JEWS, ISREALIS. Not muslims. alex is lying, bearing false witness about the very specific Washington post story which he uses as one of his two 'proofs' of 'vindication.'

It's similar to the way alex dismissed and brushed over, falsely, Dr. David Duke's point that in Israel it's ILLEGAL for a jew to marry a non jew. Alex claimed that they only have a law 'to prevent fraud marriages.' (as in, phony marriages conducted for citizenship/ immigration purposes only, which are illegal in all countries.) That is a complete lie, . Dr Duke often points out to and even links to jewish lawmakers and the law in israel banning jews from marrying non jews. it has nothing to do with merely preventing immigraton fraud. That is the kind of dishonest shit alex pulls in his manic style in which he never calms down and honestly addresses any critics.

The second proof Alex gives re 9/11 muslims gives is dan rather,. Dan says nothing whatsoever about muslims. he is also referring to the jews who were arrested on 9/11/01.

people kept whining to me a week before the trump interview asking where alex said that the jews were muslims. it was very clear, because the bizpac article he re-posted on his site falsely portrayed the jews as muslims,

but in the trump interview he repeated it endlessly on his own, not even using the bizpac piece.

also, aside from that, he went along with trump's false 9/11 narrative and never batted an eye.

as you know, this 9/11 is the event which woke me to many if not most of all the evils this country faces. It changed my life forever, and I don't appreciate people, either jones, or ron paul, or whatever 'patriot' parroting the diabolical lies of the satanists who did it. life is way too short, there is no time for that,. i find it extremely revolting., especially when its coming from people who know better.

I also don't like how trump, purportedly the best candidate, is championing TORTURE, militarism, the patriot act, "closing up the internet" as he put it, and saying that people who whine about freedom of speech are foolish people.

if bush had said ANY of those things he'd have been rightly and quickly derided here but this jew-toady asswipe says it and it is somehow overlooked and romanticized,. It is bizarre and disgusting what i see going on with this sick, circus.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-08   22:01:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Artisan (#19)

Thank you for your take on the situation. I appreciate it.

I disagree, but I do appreciate the response.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-12-08   22:12:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Artisan (#19)

I have to agree with you about Alex on 9/11. I have heard him, as recently as yesterday, lay the blame on Saudi Arabia for 9/11 and went on one of his rampages about people who blame the Jeeewwws for everything. At one time, he named AlCIAdah, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. He's now changed his narrative.

9/11 is my litmus test. I don't like Trump's neocon foreign policy, but since we know the POTUS is either going to be him or Hillary, I'd rather it be him. At least there's a chance that he could improve things domestically--assuming the Ptb would allow him to become the nominee. If he becomes too much of a threat, I think they'll Perot and Paul him.

christine  posted on  2015-12-08   22:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

What Lod said. :)

christine  posted on  2015-12-08   23:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Artisan (#19)

I don't appreciate people, either jones, or ron paul, or whatever 'patriot' parroting the diabolical lies of the satanists who did it. life is way too short, there is no time for that,. i find it extremely revolting., especially when its coming from people who know better.

Well said and you're absolutely correct. I believe the term for this ilk is sympathizers. I believe I watched a video on this forum, "Litmus Test", or some such thing and I had to concur 100%.

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

Southern Style  posted on  2015-12-08   23:17:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#21)

I have to agree with you about Alex on 9/11. I have heard him, as recently as yesterday, lay the blame on Saudi Arabia for 9/11 and went on one of his rampages about people who blame the Jeeewwws for everything. At one time, he named AlCIAdah, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. He's now changed his narrative.

do you remember what hour that was in? i would hate to have to wade through three hours of that. ;-(

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-09   0:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Artisan, Lod (#19)

I'll agree with you about Trump. He is a dictator looking for a place to happen ... and he just might happen to become President. He is a willing Jew toady.

Americans for the most part are ignorant fools looking outward for a savior when the only answer lies within the body politic and not in politicians. The people need to unite against the banking/monetary system that is controlling them and most nation states.

I'd prefer to see the missing or redacted 28 pages of classified information that many have alluded to as an indictment of the Saudis for involvement in the attack on New York. At this time I have to think that there were a number of State supported intelligence agencies involved, amongst them the MOSSAD.

[There are claims that the House of Saud is actually of Jewish origin].

I believe that the agents of change are diverse ethnically yet somehow are united through some sort of ancient (commercial) compact (possibly Babylonian) that has held them together over time. They alone know each other and work together for control of the world. The geo-political history we've been given is rife with ommissions, lies, and errors.

Artisan, I too blamed the Jews for everything at one time and I had awakened to the NWO long before 9-11. If the Jews were the single entity responsible for the many difficulties suffered by the world, why was it the Pope that assisted the Nazis escape from Germany. I'm not insinuating that the Jews have no involvement because they're in it up to their eyeballs, but so are other groups. (Nor am I certain that Hitler's agenda was wrong as I think the world would be a better place absent the so-called Jews).

However, I can only think that some sort of collusion between the allies and axis powers, especially between the Nazis, the Americans, the Papacy, and the British governments transpired that allowed many Nazis to escape capture in order to operate their agenda after the Germans surrendered. The Nazis never surrendered. Another point of fact is that there were many people and governments that supported Hitler in America and around the world. Large demonstrations with Nazi flags flying were held across the United States.

The Murder on the Orient Express offers us an example of what I believe to be true. In that story it is discovered that "all" of the passengers were involved in the murder. I think the world is a stage. There are really no countries but instead corporations dressed up as nations. These corporations tower over the supposed nations that only exist purposed to control the people.

At the top of this international corporate structure are characters that are never exposed to the light of day that rule the earth as a corporation. We may never understand the complexities of the world we live in but we can determine our own compliance or non-compliance with these murdering scumbags. It's a war between good and evil that seems to go unnoticed by many. It is financed in its entirety by the international brotherhood of banking cocksuckers. When we cast off our fears and stand against the fake monetary system, and desist in complying with the dictates of evil men then and only then will we be free.

I think it's the height of hypocrisy to bitch continually about the way the world is operated while accepting those things we find convenient about it that also keep us chained to it.

As concerns Mr. Jones, he's just one guy that promotes gun ownership, free speech, and pretty much follows the John Birch line of thought. Jones admits to paying FEDERAL TAXES in order to avoid government interference in his operation while at the same time stating openly that they are illegal. I'd compare this compromise to that of blaming the guilty parties by name rather than ethnicity for the purpose of success in promoting the freedom message and enlarging the audience. He has done more than any so-called "Patriot" to awaken folks to the evil surrounding them and affecting their lives. In order to attract the ignorant mob and then educate them to their condition of servitude he can not be expected to continually bash Jews, not only because it isn't just Jews alone that are perpetrating the evil, but because most of the ignorant masses and especially Christians support the notion of the "chosen" people and are consumed by cognitive dissonance when someone/anyone says something negative about the Jews.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-12-09   6:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: noone222 (#25)

Bravo! You write what I think.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-12-09   7:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Fred Mertz (#26)

Bravo! You write what I think.

Thank you very much. I think if one is going to express an opinion it should be supported by provable facts.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-12-09   7:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: noone222 (#25)

I believe that the agents of change are diverse ethnically yet somehow are united through some sort of ancient (commercial) compact (possibly Babylonian) that has held them together over time. They alone know each other and work together for control of the world. The geo-political history we've been given is rife with ommissions, lies, and errors.

No...

Often I say you do well when taking pen in hand, in fact the term erudite, comes to mind as fitting you well.

You have all the pieces of the puzzle before you, admittedly some seem not to fit well, a sign you are still pondering the unknown, the unseen.

Cynicom  posted on  2015-12-09   7:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

Cyni, I've been wrong enough times to know that perfection is God's realm and not mine. That being said, I'd admit not knowing something before making an erroneous statement and proclaiming it from the 4UM square.

Considering the vast resources and logistical abilities of our common enemy the global elite, one should consider it pure luck to get anything right !

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-12-09   8:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: noone222, christine, lod, neoconsnailed, titorite (#25)

I'll agree with you about Trump. He is a dictator looking for a place to happen ... and he just might happen to become President. He is a willing Jew toady.

I'm glad at least SOMEONE else here sees trump for what he is!

thanks for the reasoned rebutal to my post, you make some good points. I'm not an adversary of Jones, and i understand & have acknowledged many times how his tactic is to get a wider audience (and msn coverage) by avoiding the J topic. it's not a dumb tactic if you want to earn a living which is a fine goal.

Heck, he's posted my stuff on his website for ten years, and specifically praised my work on his radio show, how many other people here can say that? So it would be stupid for people to say im a "jones basher." My wife & I met him years ago at his conference in LA. At the same time, i'm a man, not a mesmerized teenaged schoolgirl, so just because i like Jones work in the past doesn't mean i have to be afraid or hesitant to call bullshit when i see it and alex shovels a LOT of it,. that's the fact. He's also posted my stuff for years AFTER I criticized him, which if anyone claims that he did not see that specific criticism, not only did he admit seeing it, but he spoke about that specific criticism on his show too. So even Jones doesn't MIND being criticized and corrected when it has MERIT.

i should note that i dont hate jews, nor dislike them for their religion or ethnicity. i dont broadbrush them. heck my best friend's wife is a jew (not by religion but by ethnicity). I dont think she controls the economy or that she wired the towers with explosives. LoL.

the one specific thing that is B.S. is when alex has been parroting 'inside job!!' for 20 years and then gets on with trump and acts like glenn beck. who wouldnt find that revolting and COMPLETELY sell-out-ish?

no one ever answers my points about the WaPo and Dan Rather. Those were both referring to the dancing JEWS. I have their names and their federal lawsuit where they sued ashcroft and the bureau of prisons. Alex posted that article on infowars and it is still there today. he knows all about the jews arrested on 9/11. he knows that they arent muslims, too. So people need to stop the b.s. and claiming that they were muslims. That is clearly bearing false witness and is a very serious offense. I would actually be AFRAID to do that.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-09   8:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Artisan (#30)

Christine mentioned what her litmus test is in an earlier post, above. My litmus test is that if a political hack doesn't scream against the FED RESERVE and the fake State of Israel he/she is worthless.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-12-09   8:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Artisan (#24)

2nd hour I believe. It was before his interview with Dr. Steve Pieczenik.

christine  posted on  2015-12-09   11:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: noone222 (#31)

yeah, that too, Doug.

christine  posted on  2015-12-09   11:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: noone222 (#25)

wow! That is so astute. You really should publish, Doug.

christine  posted on  2015-12-09   11:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Artisan (#30) (Edited)

Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I thought Trump was citing various groups of Muslims celebrating all over NJ that day, seen by many people, and not the dancing Israelis on the rooftop incident.

christine  posted on  2015-12-09   11:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: noone222 (#25)

Brilliant post, thanks for spelling it out.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-12-09   12:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: christine (#35)

Both izzie and muzzie were celebrating that day.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2015-12-09   12:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#0) (Edited)

Abdelmageed

Abdulmageed

Abdel/Abdul means "Servant of the"

mageed -- sounds like: Maggid - Wikipedia

sometimes spelled as magid, is a term used to describe two distinct concepts, the more common one defining a concrete person, and the other defining a celestial entity.

The usual meaning is that of a traditional Eastern European Jewish religious itinerant [wandering] preacher, skilled as a narrator of Torah and religious stories.

The other meaning appears in the context of Jewish mysticism and describes a celestial entity, most commonly an angel, who manifests itself as a voice delivering mystical secrets to a kabbalist, or sometimes speaking through the mouths of the chosen ones.

There always have been two distinct classes of leaders in Israel—the scholar and rabbi, and the preacher or maggid.

There are 3 references there to terror: the "Terror Maggid", the "terror" maggidim and the "terror", or "Musar" [Ethics or moral philosophy], maggid [from which] developed the "penitential" maggid, who, especially during the month of Elul and the ten days of penitence between New-Year's Day and Yom Kippur, urged the wicked to repent of their sins and seek God's forgiveness.

Maggid | Define Maggid at Dictionary.com

[Ashkenazic Hebrew, English mah-gid; Sephardic Hebrew mah-geed]

a wandering Jewish preacher whose sermons contained religious and moral instruction and words of comfort and hope.

Also:

This is Google's cache of http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Spring_Holidays/Pesach/Seder/
Maggid/maggid.html.
It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Dec 1, 2015

Maggid - Telling the Story of Passover

The Seder Leader calls out: "Maggid"

And it shall come to pass that your child will ask you, "What do you mean by this service?" And you shall tell him: "With a mighty hand, God took us out of Egypt..."

We cannot eat the Seder meal until the story of Passover is told with joy and gratitude. The Maggid section of the Passover Seder is when we read from our Haggadahs about yetziat mitzraim - the Exodus from Egypt.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-12-09   13:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#34)

You're far too generous !

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2015-12-09   19:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Artisan (#19) (Edited)

[Alex Jones] whitewashes stuff insisting that 'we've been vindicated,' the muslims were cheering, and claims for his proof that "it was in the washington post and reported by dan rather."

Lets stick with those two very specific examples.

they are both complete lies, an inverting of what the WP and DR said. The quote in bizpac which infowars ran, about the alleged cheering muzzies, the WP quote was the ONLY actual source that Bizpac quoted, other than endless anonymous twitter posts. Now the WP published an extremely detailed and lengthy rebuttal of that claim the very next day. i linked to it,. The WP quote, published on 9/18/01, stated nothing whatsoever about muslims, . it was referring specifically to the people dancing on a rooftop in nj, who were arrested. those were JEWS, ISREALIS. Not muslims. alex is lying, bearing false witness about the very specific Washington post story which he uses as one of his two 'proofs' of 'vindication.'

The media ramping up a fracas against Trump for being convinced by rigged footage and the celebratory-allegations baselessly attached to it, which the MSM intently hyped to jolt the public repeatedly, then and afterward -- with nary any retraction and correction of their Zio-propaganda complicit presentations ... seems to me like a nefarious sting-operation: Manipulate Americans at a time of trauma with more shockery and then punish them later for still presuming that the media spin was credible. Trump is probably not unlike numerous other Americans who haven't yet suspected that perception managers meant for them get inaccurate impressions about what they think they saw happening on the news of supposed 9/11 celebrants; and the duplicitous producers of that programming probably cheer whenever they see or hear it recycled periodically according to their plans.

"We are not your problem. The Palestinians are your problem," said a Dancing Israeli when their van was stopped by the police on 9/11 (or words to that effect). "The Palestinians" ... like they might have had some foreknowledge about a soon-to-be-released film of Palestinians appearing to cheer the attacking of America ... also rather like the Dancing Israelis were maybe even mission-dispatched to a reportedly Muslim-populous area of New Jersey for the purpose of Arab-villianization by being spotted there as some "Middle Eastern-looking" men happily celebrating attacks on the WTC.


Palestinians celebrating the fall of the twin towers on 911 - YouTube [37 seconds]


238 Palestinian President Yassir Arafat on 911 - YouTube [1.25 minutes]


Wikipedia: Reactions to the September 11 attacks | Islamic world | Palestinian celebrations | Rest of the world [title of a fiery American flag sculpture in Israel with a base of melted 9/11-WTC steel]

Almost all Muslim political and religious leaders condemned the attacks. The leaders vehemently denouncing the attacks included the leaders of Egypt (Hosni Mubarak), the Palestinian Authority (Yasser Arafat), Libya (Muammar Gaddafi), Syria (Bashar al-Assad), Iran (Mohamed Khatami) and Pakistan (Pervez Musharraf). The sole exception was Iraq,

A group of Palestinians were filmed celebrating in the street ... Annette Krüger Spitta of the ARD's (German public broadcasting) TV magazine Panorama states that footage not aired shows that the street surrounding the celebration in Jerusalem is quiet. Furthermore, she states that a man in a white T-shirt incited the children and gathered people together for the shot. The Panorama report, dated September 20, 2001, quotes Communications Professor Martin Löffelholz explaining that in the images one sees jubilant Palestinian children and several adults but there is no indication that their pleasure is related to the attack. The woman seen cheering (Nawal Abdel Fatah) stated afterwards that she was offered cake if she celebrated on camera, and was frightened when she saw the pictures on television afterward.

Rest of the world

Israel: Completed in 2009 for $2 million, it sits on 5 acres of hillside, 20 miles from the center of Jerusalem. The memorial is a 30-foot, bronze American flag,that forms the shape of a flame to commemorate the flames of the Twin Towers. The base of the monument is made of melted steel from the wreckage of the World Trade Center, that includes an engraving in both English and Hebrew “This metal remnant was taken from the remains of the Twin Towers, that imploded on September 11th disaster. It was sent over to Israel by the City of New York to be incorperated in this memorial. This metal piece, like the entire monument, is a manifestation of the special relationship between New York and Jerusalem.” Surrounding the monument are plaques with the names of the victims of 9/11. It is the only memorial outside the U.S. that includes the names of all who perished in the terrorist attacks. The site solemnly overlooks Jerusalem’s largest cemetery, Har HaMenuchot. The monument is often used for memorial and commemoration services.


This Is the Footage Donald Trump Thinks He Saw on 9/11 - Mediaite

We’re now on day two of the latest media controversy to engulf Donald Trump, namely his insistence that he personally saw footage that featured “thousands” of American Muslims in New Jersey celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Center on 9/11. [...] For two days now, the media has been parsing Trump’s claim, which he now supports with an unsourced paragraph in an old Washington Post article that describes “law enforcement authorities” questioning people who were “allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops.”

That old WaPo report, it has to be said, is pure bull[feathers]. The reporters who wrote it have since said that they were unable to verify the allegation, but no one has questioned them on where it came from in the first place. Based on the lack of attribution, the only possibilities are that it was from some law enforcement source who insisted on deep background attribution (not likely given the broad nature of the claim), or it was from residents and/or local political figures who claimed knowledge of the incidents.

In any case, in the weeks following the attacks, literally everyone I ran into in New Jersey had a story about how they had personally seen the FBI or the cops raid their local convenience store/gas station/other business that happened to be owned by brown people, and that they knew for a fact the people scooped up in the raid had been plotting against America. People were scared

For some reason, though, none of the coverage of Trump’s remarks has included the footage that Trump was probably talking about, footage that every American either saw or heard about that day and was deeply traumatized by. While still reeling from the tragedy, Fox News viewers got to see this footage of Palestinians allegedly celebrating the attacks: [dailymotion video]

It wasn’t just Fox News, though. Here’s how the scene was presented by CNN: [dailymotion video]

MSNBC also aired similar footage from the West Bank: [dailymotion video]

Appearing when it did, this footage gave many Americans a distorted view of Muslim reaction to the attacks, which was, in fact, widespread condemnation. [...] Trump’s conflation of this footage with that unsourced WaPo report will be seen as a forgivable transgression at worst, and at best, something that feels true.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2015-12-09   19:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: christine (#35) (Edited)

Trump pulled that out of his ass, it's based on nothing of reality. police chiefs all over the east coast, NY & NJ already debunked trumps claims,

the 'proof' that zionist site bizpacreview presented was anonymous twitter posts. that is the extent of their 'proof.'

alex said his proof was the two sources i explained above. WaPo and dan rather. But they were both specifically referring to the dancing israelis.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2015-12-09   19:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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