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Title: ‘I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding’ – Trump at debates
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URL Source: https://www.rt.com/usa/331629-trump ... ates-waterboarding-republican/
Published: Feb 7, 2016
Author: staff
Post Date: 2016-02-07 08:02:10 by Ada
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Views: 345
Comments: 38

The Republican debates have wrapped up in New Hampshire, with some formidable bickering, topped by poll leader Donald Trump’s comment that he would “bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.”

Trump is also the person who recently in November said he does not care if torture doesn’t work, because “they deserve it anyway.”

On Saturday, he continued in the same vein. "I'll tell you what, in the Middle East, we have people chopping the heads off Christians. We have people chopping the heads off many other people. We have things that we have never seen before, as a group… I would bring back waterboarding and I'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding."

His opponent, Texas Senator Ted Cruz, went as far as saying he does not believe the notorious practice of simulated drowning to be torture. “It is enhanced interrogation… It does not meet the generally recognized definition of torture.” He later added, however: “I would not bring it back in any sort of widespread use.”

Read more Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump. © Jim BourgSore loser? Trump accuses Cruz of 'stealing' Iowa caucus However, despite this national alarm over waterboarding and the Bush era’s murky history – or even the Obama administration’s somewhat disappointing failure to prosecute those who sanctioned it, many Americans still seem to be betting on the one candidate who is most in favor of such methods.

Trump has left Ted Cruz and Florida Senator Marco Rubio far behind in the polls, gaining twice their numbers. But some suspect Trump’s 32 percent may not be that inexplicable. Political analyst Eric Draitser believes the Republican rhetoric amounts to fear mongering, where everyone tries to use the party’s traditional tactics to score points.

“Well, they’re playing to a very conservative and reactionary element in the United States, one that sees threats from radical Islam; that sees threats from the Middle East, from ISIS and all of these things as existential threats to the United States, and they’re playing on that,” Draitser told RT.

“What is so deeply cynical about all of this – whether they’re talking about waterboarding and terrorism… the heroin epidemic or the growing scourge of heroin use – [is] never asking the question – ‘where is the heroin coming from?’: Afghanistan. ‘Where are the terrorists coming from?’ All of the countries the United States has been bombing and destroying,” he continued.

While Trump may understand political theater better than anyone on either side of the spectrum, he’s also being accused by Republicans of being a loose cannon.

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Draitser believes people should unite behind someone who is a serious opponent to Trump – such as the establishment-friendly Marco Rubio – and somehow also prevent Trump from going with a third party. Because, if Trump leaves the Republicans, this may eventually pave the way for Hillary Clinton’s victory.

In this way, the internal divisions among the Republicans seem to be of great importance. Just a few months ago, people were willing to concede that the very establishment-friendly Hillary had all but won. However, the tide appears to be changing, as many Americans still view her as, basically, Wall Street, next to someone like Sanders, who is now almost exactly tied with her.

The other candidates seemed to be using other issues to try and score what little they could to compete.

Read more Democratic U.S. presidential candidate and U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders. © Randall Hill‘Hillary Clinton’s real constituency has been Wall Street and the military- industrial complex’ Trying to slow down the Florida senator ahead of the New Hampshire primaries on Tuesday, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie blasted him for lacking leadership skills and experience, and even likened him to Obama.

"We've watched it happen, everybody. For the last seven years. The people of New Hampshire are smart. Do not make the same mistake again."

Rubio’s accomplishments were actually near the top of the agenda, together with Islamic State, the epidemic of heroin use, economic recovery and, of course, immigration.

As for the three front-runners, it was Trump, Rubio and Ted Cruz who really got the debates going. And it was terrorism and immigration that took center-stage. While Trump is still the front-runner, things could change: the billionaire mogul came in second in Iowa recently, and some believe he may not have what it takes to win New Hampshire.

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#1. To: All, katniss (#0)

Maybe Katniss is right about Donald Trump

Ada  posted on  2016-02-07   8:04:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ada, Katniss (#1)

Maybe Katniss is right about Donald Trump

It certainly scores one in her favor.

This hurts Trump. Most people are tired of war, and have an implicit perception of the harm US foreign policy has inflicted on other countries. This comment by Trump shows he's out of touch with the fact that the US is an empire that's been exploiting the world for many decades, if not longer.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-07   10:17:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pinguinite (#7)

It certainly hurts Trump's support from those who are tired of war and the many decades of global abuses that interventionist U.S. policy has and is causing.

But how many of us are there, really? When was the last time 40,000 people walked out of a football stadium in protest over the event being made a celebration of the U.S. military and implicitly the empire's using it to spread mayhem, death, and sorrow around the world?

StraitGate  posted on  2016-02-07   10:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: StraitGate (#10)

I think the weariness of war is what helped Obama beat McCain in 08. Part of Obama's promise was to bring troops home and close Guantanamo. He got the Nobel peace prize for the simple reason that he wasn't Bush. Of course Obama didn't deliver, but that's what helped him as well as the D's taking over congress.

As far as boycotting military honors, that will probably never happen, as too many families have members in the military, and they will never willingly see things in the proper light, even if the only reason they are in the military was to pay for college or just get a job in a horrible economy.

Pinguinite  posted on  2016-02-07   11:04:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Pinguinite (#13)

As far as boycotting military honors, that will probably never happen, as too many families have members in the military, and they will never willingly see things in the proper light, even if the only reason they are in the military was to pay for college or just get a job in a horrible economy.

dead on

christine  posted on  2016-02-07   21:06:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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