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Title: Follow Up On Orlando Pulse Club False Flag
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URL Source: http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/06 ... orlando-pulse-club-false-flag/
Published: Jun 16, 2016
Author: Victurus Libertas
Post Date: 2016-06-16 10:07:20 by christine
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We were among the first ones to spot all the clues that point to a false flag when the Orlando supposed mass shooting at the Pulse club happened early Sunday morning June 12, 2016. As more reports came out and more interviews took place, it was even more and more obvious this was indeed, a false flag. If you are not yet convinced, I encourage you to watch the short videos below.
We all saw this guy with the red tennis shoes being carried with an alleged gun shot wound to the leg. Watch this video closely. Watch the “rescuers” put down the “victim” when they think they are out of the shot of the camera:

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#1. To: christine (#0)
The Orlando Hoax is being discussed on thepowerhour.com right now. It's falling apart faster than Sandy Hook.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2016-06-16 10:16:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: christine (#0)
Mike Rivero had an article from someone who did an analysis using Google earth and maps. It claims the people were taking alleged victims to the Pulse and not away from it. This only means there could have been a drill going on. I believe real people died. But the cops admit they might have killed some of the people inside the nightclub.
If there were 4 or 5 shooters, Omar could have been the patsy.
This false flag was poorly thought out. If ISIS did this, they would have to have people working as informants inside the federal government which is credible. If the Feds did this, they have some extremely stupid people working for them.
I expect many more attacks like this in Europe and in the US. The US, the UK and Israel helped create and fund ISIS but they have lost operational control at the level of the cell.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Horse posted on 2016-06-16 10:19:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Horse (#2)
I have seen that video.
www.facebook.com/Official...190222020797/?pnref=story (George Galloway)

christine posted on 2016-06-16 10:24:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Lod (#1)
I just turned it on. Thanks.

christine posted on 2016-06-16 10:26:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Horse (#2)
This (so-called) mass murderer had been cleared to carry a weapon and work in security for a contractor that does work for Homo-Land Security by numerous official federal agencies.
C'mon man !
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".
"White Lives Matter Most if you're white"

Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2016-06-16 10:51:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: christine (#0)
Thanks for posting this.
I've seen this clip innumerable times the past few days, but hadn't seen the rescuers depositing the victim on the sidewalk.
While watching the longer version of this video, it's been bugging the crap outta me that more than one "victim" is being transported IN THE DIRECTION of the scene of the shooting rather than AWAY from it.
"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
randge posted on 2016-06-16 11:10:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: noone222 (#5)
We live in a nation where the government and the media lies to us. We do know that people died. Omar could have been one of many shooters. We have audio of more than one gun firing on full auto at the same time.
If it was Muslims, they might have left him behind. We don't know until we have a Free Government and criminal investigations into Orlando and Sandy Hook.
No need for speculation. We do know that the single shooter theory is false. We need to find the additional shooters.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Horse posted on 2016-06-16 11:13:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: randge, ALL (#6)

christine posted on 2016-06-16 11:15:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: christine (#8)
"...looking over piles of bodies in the bathroom..."
Who is the scriptwriter for this bullshit?
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2016-06-16 11:25:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Lod (#9)
Omar Mateen again:

christine posted on 2016-06-16 11:27:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: christine (#8) (Edited)
At 4:00 she describes how the "made it outside" after escaping the shooting in the bar. Then she and her friend decide to go back in to "get Tiara" who didn't make it out with them.
So she RUNS BACK INTO the building with an active shooter situation going on - which the cops and FBI WERE TOO CHICKEN TO DO for 3 hours armed and suited up outside.
Carter recounts those agonizing hours wallowing on the bathroom floor among the wounded, dead and dying and recalls the 911 call pledging allegiance to ISIS.
It's just remarkable how some women go through the most horrendous stuff without breaking a fingernail.

"If ignorance is truly bliss, then why do so many Americans need Prozac?" - Dave McGowan
randge posted on 2016-06-16 11:28:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Horse, All (#2)
Alas, regardless of the truth the masses of asses will go on sobbing, lighting candles and cursing the Moozlims...... OMG, I'm listening to this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxkSVh2aNww
and this is showing!

Wotta source -- ton of anti-statist grafix!

http://www.facebook.com/MuhFlag/

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NeoconsNailed posted on 2016-06-16 11:38:01 ET (3 images) Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: christine (#8) (Edited)
FOX 29 is in Philadelphia !!! Long way from Orlando ! I guess she was on vacation and hangin out in a queer bar.
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".
"White Lives Matter Most if you're white"

Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2016-06-16 14:42:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: NeoconsNailed (#12)
You do know a lil' beaner faggot blocked the back door so no one could escape? He feared for his lil' beaner faggot life.
"False flag" my ass. That's why I call the conspironuts.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
Turtle posted on 2016-06-16 15:17:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: All (#10)
watch this bullsh!t

www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10154918925156509/

christine posted on 2016-06-16 16:23:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: christine (#15)
Do you think that Patience (TV NEWS Reporter) would have gone out to a night club without any makeup or with her hair done ?
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".
"White Lives Matter Most if you're white"

Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2016-06-16 16:46:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: christine (#15)
Too bizarre for words.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2016-06-16 16:56:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: christine (#0)
Called it.
Yeah... it is disgusting to see this shit happening on a regular basis. You just cant trust anything on the news anymore, not like one percent but zero percent. The media lies, lies, and then lies some more , its just a bad propaganda engine now.
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titorite posted on 2016-06-16 17:17:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: christine (#0)
I'd vote to arm both sides with nukes and let the queers and Muzzies shoot it out !
"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".
"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".
"White Lives Matter Most if you're white"

Doug Scheidt
noone222 posted on 2016-06-16 17:19:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: Turtle (#14)
Do you believe everything the media tell you?
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2016-06-17 2:08:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: NeoconsNailed, Turtle (#20)
Do you believe everything the media tell you?

Uhhh...Turtle might say this...
When the sun comes up this morning, there are a few that find the timing a bit FISHY...because the Almanac said six months ago the time of rising.
One has to admit, some room there for conspiring????

Cynicom posted on 2016-06-17 4:10:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: NeoconsNailed (#20)
Do you believe everything the media tell you?

I am a former newspaper reporter and editor and I know bullshit when I see it. Bombs in towers, false flag shootings at the Boston marathon and at a fag nightclub...bullshit.
"Have Brain, Will Travel
Turtle posted on 2016-06-17 9:33:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Turtle (#22)
Well, I'm a present newspaper reporter and editor and I'm calling bullshit on your bullshit.
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2016-06-17 11:17:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Artisan (#0)
Ping, this is.the thread i was referencing.
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titorite posted on 2016-06-18 15:20:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: christine (#0)
My conspiracy theory: I'm certainly beginning to think that FedGov/FBI/et al KNEW that Omar Mateen was an inbred psychopath with violent tendencies and that it was only a matter of time before he perpetrated a horrific crime. How many more muslim nutcases, buying guns/ammo/body armor, are running around that the FBI knows about but is refusing to stop in advance??
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2016-06-18 15:58:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: X-15 (#25)
FBI knows about but is refusing to stop in advance??

With the FBI that cuts both ways.
There are good guys and bad guys.
Russian spy sat in FBI HQ for 15 years, no one was aware.

Joe Sixpack, drunk, mentions Flop Ears in a bar and next day FBI at his door.
A moral there somewhere.

Cynicom posted on 2016-06-18 18:27:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: NeoconsNailed (#12)
The tax on tea was "taxation without representation". But the tax on whiskey was a lawful excise tax and needed to be enforced. Washington lead the Army against the protesters of the excise. Know your history. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2016-06-18 20:10:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: BTP Holdings (#27)
The rebels of the whisky rebellion were in the right.
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titorite posted on 2016-06-18 20:13:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: christine (#0)
This reminds me of the Nazi propaganda paper titled, "Deutchland Erwache" or Germany Awake.

www.youtube.com/watch? v=8RHS-8v97Uk
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2016-06-18 20:20:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: titorite (#28)
The rebels of the whisky rebellion were in the right.

That may have been, but history records otherwise. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2016-06-18 20:22:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: BTP Holdings (#27)
Occasionally, government errs. One of the great lewrockwell (and Rothbard!) articles out there
www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/when-the-feds-first-attacked-the-americans/
..........The main distortion of the Official View of the Whiskey Rebellion was its alleged confinement to four counties of western Pennsylvania. From recent research, we now know that no one paid the tax on whiskey throughout the American “back-country”: that is, the frontier areas of Maryland, Virginia, North and South Carolina, Georgia, and the entire state of Kentucky.
President Washington and Secretary Hamilton chose to make a fuss about Western Pennsylvania precisely because in that region there was a cadre of wealthy officials who were willing to collect taxes. Such a cadre did not even exist in the other areas of the American frontier; there was no fuss or violence against tax collectors in Kentucky and the rest of the back-country because there was no one willing to be a tax collector.
The whiskey tax was particularly hated in the back-country because whisky production and distilling were widespread; whiskey was not only a home product for most farmers, it was often used as a money, as a medium of exchange for transactions. Furthermore, in keeping with Hamilton’s program, the tax bore more heavily on the smaller distilleries. As a result, many large distilleries supported the tax as a means of crippling their smaller and more numerous competitors.
Western Pennsylvania, then, was only the tip of the iceberg. The point is that, in all the other back-country areas, the whiskey tax was never paid. Opposition to the federal excise tax program was one of the causes of the emerging Democrat-Republican Party, and of the Jeffersonian “Revolution” of 1800. Indeed, one of the accomplishments of the first Jefferson term as president was to repeal the entire Federalist excise tax program. In Kentucky, whiskey tax delinquents only paid up when it was clear that the tax itself was going to be repealed.
Rather than the whiskey tax rebellion being localized and swiftly put down, the true story turns out to be very different. The entire American back-country was gripped by a non-violent, civil disobedient refusal to pay the hated tax on whiskey. No local juries could be found to convict tax delinquents. The Whiskey Rebellion was actually widespread and successful, for it eventually forced the federal government to repeal the excise tax.
Except during the War of 1812, the federal government never again dared to impose an internal excise tax, until the North transformed the American Constitution by centralizing the nation during the War Between the States. One of the evil fruits of this war was the permanent federal “sin” tax on liquor and tobacco, to say nothing of the federal income tax, an abomination and a tyranny even more oppressive than an excise.
Why didn’t previous historians know about this widespread non-violent rebellion? Because both sides engaged in an “open conspiracy” to cover up the facts. Obviously, the rebels didn’t want to call a lot of attention to their being in a state of illegality.
Washington, Hamilton, and the Cabinet covered up the extent of the revolution because they didn’t want to advertise the extent of their failure. They knew very well that if they tried to enforce, or send an army into, the rest of the back-country, they would have failed. Kentucky and perhaps the other areas would have seceded from the Union then and there. Both contemporary sides were happy to cover up the truth, and historians fell for the deception.
The Whiskey Rebellion, then, considered properly, was a victory for liberty and property rather than for federal taxation. Perhaps this lesson will inspire a later generation of American taxpayers who are so harried and downtrodden as to make the whiskey or stamp taxes of old seem like Paradise...........
This all spells a monstrous Jueing. The Jues are the great epic chiselers in any society. Mfg is offshored ptly so the Jue middlemen can make out like bandits on the shipping.

(They tried to civilize the poor girl, but it was a miserable thing. The strangest thing is that wild children adapt to weather as if they had animal fur -- cold means nothing to them! If humans will kindly stop reproducing, no more wild children. No more politicians, no more Izrul, no more war.....)
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NeoconsNailed posted on 2016-06-19 4:57:15 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: Turtle (#22)
I am a former newspaper reporter and editor

Lmao. You're trying to sell us that YOU know the truth because you were once a newspaper reporter and editor? It's narrow minded mainstreamers like you that have been spewing lies and bullshit for ions! Thank God for the researchers and journalists (those you call conspironuts whose water you couldn't carry) in alternative media.

christine posted on 2016-06-20 21:55:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: christine, Turtle (#32)
You're trying to sell us that YOU know the truth because you were once a newspaper reporter and editor?

He went to J-School, why isn't that a valid enough credential for people like you and I? Only the best and brightest get into J-School.
If you wewe a twee...
"We need more H-1B visas, because source code is rotting in the fields." - Countenance Blog
Dakmar posted on 2016-06-20 21:58:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Dakmar (#33)
The internet has killed any need for j-schools. Thank God.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2016-06-20 22:27:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: christine (#32)
its sort of interesting and peculiar to observe this phenomenon. it occurs 'in real life' and on the web in internet communities too. The people who are aware or 'see' the conspiracies usually try to show others what is going on, to help them see things as they are. this is for the others well being. but on the other hand, if someone doesn't see it, and doesn't want to see it, and doesn't care, or scoffs at it, and doesn't want to be 'helped', then who really gives a shit? I mean, as long as that person isn't a part of your life, then what they believe or don't believe will not affect you in any way, usually. if it were someone who was actually in your life, who you were at odds with on these matters, that would be quite different.

a lot of people don't know anything about conspiracies at all, they live their lives, and then die, and they are none the better or worse for it.

for me, a lot of these shooting conspiracies, which I cannot even keep track of anymore, it doesn't really matter if they're false or not. the main thing is that people should not surrender their 2A because of it. Whether its real or not, the important point is that no one should be convinced to give up their gun rights.

if someone blames guns, and wants to restrict the rights of the people, they're a commie and screwed in the head. they're an enemy. whether so called 'crisis actors' were used or not, which actually sounds quite bizarre, even to me, is irrelevant. don't get me wrong I'm not turning into a scoffer of conspiracies. not at all. I am just saying that a lot of this endless minutia, to me, simply does not matter.
its just like the scalia thing. yeah he died with a pillow over his head, and his prissy lawyer son went on tv and scolded 'conspiracy theorists' who were soiling his dads image. the guy had 12 kids and none of them gave a shit he died with a pillow over his face? then if his own family doesn't give a shit why should I??? lol seriously?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2016-06-20 22:49:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: Artisan (#35)
the guy had 12 kids and none of them gave a shit he died with a pillow over his face? then if his own family doesn't give a shit why should I??? lol seriously?

We should care because he was our public servant. We should care because these things in the public arena have public repercussions that affect everyone. When good people stop caring evil triumphs. But thats just my opinion from my perspective. Your results may vary.
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titorite posted on 2016-06-20 23:07:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: titorite (#36)
We should care because he was our public servant. We should care because these things in the public arena have public repercussions that affect everyone. When good people stop caring evil triumphs. But thats just my opinion from my perspective. Your results may vary.

I mean, in a situation like that, such as a sandy hook or an old Italian judge, I have no standing or jusrisdiction to make results happen. I cannot pressure anyone or raise hell about it to any avail if it does not involved my family or my property, so, there is nothing to do.

it's sort of like the bible verse when Jesus tells his disciples that if they aren't welcomed then to wipe the dust from their feet and move on to elsewhere.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2016-06-20 23:16:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: Artisan (#35)
it's the arrogance, Martin.

christine posted on 2016-06-21 0:56:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: christine (#0)
The first and 3rd element shown are not convincing to me of anything faked.
The guy with red shoes is not shown walking at all. At least I don't see it. They do stop and he stands without the assistance of one of the guys who carried him, but maybe with the help of the other guy and/or someone else. We cannot see that. But there's no footage of him walking at all, much less walking normally.
On the last clip with the interview, I saw a post somewhere where one of the patrons was describing how he held a door shut to protect himself in spite of others on the other side wanting to pass through it.
The footage of them allegedly carrying wounded towards Pulse is something I can't offer a counter explanation to, though. I'd want to see a map of the whole area, for 2-4 blocks in all directions.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-21 2:56:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: Artisan (#37)
I cannot pressure anyone or raise hell about it to any avail if it does not involved my family or my property, so, there is nothing to do.

No. Not for me. I may be along for the same ride but i believe if their is absolutly nothing else i can do, i can know the truth, share the truth, and act in a better manner in truth.
Amd if i can not enlighten someone else to the truth i may move on to the next person, but i wont give up on humanity. I wont turn my back on soceity content to seclude my world and my concerns to my family alone.
I wont because i have family.
A most wonderful woman and a great child.
This sort of shit effects them too. I dont want them to be sucked into the lies, i dont want them tuned by propaganda. And as shit gets worse, as soceity continues down this fucked up slope, if things dont change i want them to be empowered to handle anything, to reject the mark, to know grace, to know truth.
So it behooves me to care.... to speak on it. To try and effect change for the better.
All evil needs to win is for good people to do nothing. So maybe the false flag doesnt affct me or mine personally, but i still care and i still feel that drive that want to do something.
Even if all can do is condemn the lie.
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titorite posted on 2016-06-21 3:14:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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