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Title: Follow Up On Orlando Pulse Club False Flag
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URL Source: http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/06 ... orlando-pulse-club-false-flag/
Published: Jun 16, 2016
Author: Victurus Libertas
Post Date: 2016-06-16 10:07:20 by christine
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We were among the first ones to spot all the clues that point to a false flag when the Orlando supposed mass shooting at the Pulse club happened early Sunday morning June 12, 2016. As more reports came out and more interviews took place, it was even more and more obvious this was indeed, a false flag. If you are not yet convinced, I encourage you to watch the short videos below.
We all saw this guy with the red tennis shoes being carried with an alleged gun shot wound to the leg. Watch this video closely. Watch the “rescuers” put down the “victim” when they think they are out of the shot of the camera:

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#39. To: christine (#0)
The first and 3rd element shown are not convincing to me of anything faked.
The guy with red shoes is not shown walking at all. At least I don't see it. They do stop and he stands without the assistance of one of the guys who carried him, but maybe with the help of the other guy and/or someone else. We cannot see that. But there's no footage of him walking at all, much less walking normally.
On the last clip with the interview, I saw a post somewhere where one of the patrons was describing how he held a door shut to protect himself in spite of others on the other side wanting to pass through it.
The footage of them allegedly carrying wounded towards Pulse is something I can't offer a counter explanation to, though. I'd want to see a map of the whole area, for 2-4 blocks in all directions.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-21 2:56:19 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#44. To: All, Christine, Lod, titorite (#39)
Spent a few minutes and found a map of the area, which marks the Stand Up MRI, Duncan Donuts, and the Pulse nightclub, and it does seem they were carrying wounded down the sidewalk in the general direction of Pulse.
However, they were also being carried in the general direction of the Orlando Regional Medical Center, which is about 6 blocks away from that location.
Here's a map, compliments of the Stand Up MRI.
www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=28.518827~-81.376900&lvl=16&sty=r&q=2010%20South%20Orange%20Avenue%20Orlando,%20FL%2032806&form=LMLTCC
In any event, seeing wounded carried in the direction of Pulse is not necessarily a sign of fakery. It should be remembered that it would have been a very chaotic situation with over 100 people killed or wounded. In an emergency situation, everyone would be running everywhere in all directions, and wounded people would flee or be taken somewhere most expedient for safety. Afterwards, when the danger is gone with the shooter dead, people, including wounded, can then relocate short distances for whatever reasons. They could be because lying down on concrete is not comforable. Maybe they lived nearby and wanted to go to their home/apartment. Maybe where most people went first was just too crowded. The less seriously wounded people would not have been attended to first by parametics, which are probably all those shown in the video being carried.
In a nutshell, it would have been a very chaotic scene as something almost no one involved was expecting or prepared for. So making too much out of the direction people were carried is just that, IMO.
I think Occam's razor applies here: The simplest explanation is the most likely explanation. To say the whole thing was faked is far, far harder to do than to say that it really did happen as depicted, as there are so many people involved and so much physical evidence that would have to be manufactured.
If there is something nefarious about the event, a far easier explanation is that it really happened but was instigated by several people (a conspiracy) and this Mateen guy was framed. In that case, the video footage questioning the authenticity of wounded people does not support that scenario and can similarly be discounted.
I've said many times that lending credence to the notion that everything is faked is more likely A) done out of an extreme sense of paranoia, or B) purposely done by PTB's to discredit any and all claims of "false flag" activity carried out by the government. That by conditioning teh public to accept that there are always "loons" out there who will say anything.
There is a time and place for paranoia. It can be a good and valid survival mechanism. But we still need to keep our feet on the ground in perceiving the reality around us. The USA is a country of 350 million people. The odds of a handful out of that number being willing and able to do what happened in Orlando is about as close to 100% as it can get without being 100%. Also, the government does not have God-like powers of ultimate control over the entire population. Individual people can do things to make national headline news.
My 2c.
PS: Not trying to make enemies out of anyone. This is just what I see and I hope it's appreciated that I took the time to compose all this. Peace.

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-21 14:18:02 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#66. To: Pinguinite, x-15, christine, randge, titorite, neoconsnailed, btp holdings, lod (#44)
I think Occam's razor applies here: The simplest explanation is the most likely explanation. To say the whole thing was faked is far, far harder to do than to say that it really did happen as depicted, as there are so many people involved and so much physical evidence that would have to be manufactured.
If there is something nefarious about the event, a far easier explanation is that it really happened but was instigated by several people (a conspiracy) and this Mateen guy was framed. In that case, the video footage questioning the authenticity of wounded people does not support that scenario and can similarly be discounted.
I've said many times that lending credence to the notion that everything is faked is more likely A) done out of an extreme sense of paranoia, or B) purposely done by PTB's to discredit any and all claims of "false flag" activity carried out by the government. That by conditioning teh public to accept that there are always "loons" out there who will say anything.

I agree with what you said and particularly the part in bold. The trend seems to have swayed from a 'false flag/set up patsies' meme to a completely bizarre 'everything is fake, no one ever dies, there are no humans involved' position. That is completely bonkers and bizarre, and it does seem to be something that would be propagated by the government itself to make those who understand false flag events (which are covered in army manuals and have been ADMITTED BY GOVERNMENTS officially, and declassified hundreds of times) to be discredited in the eyes of the public. (See 42 FALSE- FLAG ATTACKS OFFICIALY ADMITTED TO).

Furthermore, since the government has NO QUALMS WHATSOEVER about killing dozens, hundreds, thousands or even millions of innocents, (as secretary of state madeline Albright admitted that 500,000 deaths of Iraqi children was 'worth it') There is NO REASON that government would have to 'make up victims' or 'fake deaths'. No reason at all. And actually, people who understand the spiritual nature of these government crimes would understand that these people are satanic and actually FEED off of ritual human sacrifice, (not 'mannequin sacrifice' or 'crisis actor sacrifice'.)
that does not mean I'm saying that crisis actors are never used or that they don't exist- I pointed out that clearly a mannequin was used in the aftermath of the LAX shooting a few years ago, CBS 2 showed extensive 15 minute video, live, when the first responders pushed a snow white obvious department store mannequin in a wheelchair thru LAX to a waiting ambulance, it was hilarious.

But the government probably actually does this type of stupid, crazy obvious shit to fuck with the minds of the people and to cause CHAOS in society. so, then a contingent of conspiracy-obsessed researchers from that point on insist that 'EVERYTHING IS FAKE!!;, making them appear as absolute insane lunatics in the minds of the general public. it is COINTELPRO (as admitted govt program) at work. This will sweep the fact of actually admitted false flag strategies under the carpet.

Artisan posted on 2016-06-22 10:55:04 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#76. To: Artisan, x-15, christine, randge, titorite, neoconsnailed, btp holdings, lod (#66)
Thinking more on the interview, it is rather surreal. Not only the woman smiling when she comes on, but Cooper holding her hand and hugging her. I don't think I've even seen a newscaster do that after interviewing someone about a slain loved one.
I can agree that it is more likely than not a staged interview with an actor. It reminds me of this event:

This clip is all over the net including being the subject of ridicule on someone's comedian show. I searched for a CNN response about it but found nothing. I guess the other networks aren't touching it either, perhaps because they can already relate to the practice.
I responded to Christine by PM about my thoughts on this after she opined that if the Orlando event was real, then there would be no need for crisis actors. But it's appropriate for this thread:
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Actually, I could see a "need" for crisis actors even if the event is real. (And this thought is coming to me in light of the scene you posted and asked about with Cooper).
Consider this: Major news networks make money by showing stuff to the public. Orlando shooting happens. CNN execs want to respond. They show all the stuff from the event itself, but they also want to show the public some heartwarming scene about a gay person that died so unjustly. So they want to do some kind of personal interview with a family member of one of the those slain.
But they have a problem: No parents of any of the deceased gay people want to do an interview, either because of grief or because they don't want to broadcast to the world the fact that their now dead son was gay. But CNN execs still want to do a segment like the one they made. Soooooo....... they hire a crisis actor to play the part. They justify it to the actor in saying that some parents would like to do it but they can't because they are grief stricken, so would you play the part and talk about one of the gay kids was "part of Orlando? It's for the good of humanity.
So she agrees and does it. She's smiling because she's on TV and can't really help it. But she then plays the part.
The photos are real deceased. The family doesn't mind the stand-in actor because it's still honoring their boy. Cooper does the touching hug scene which, yes, is surreal in itself.
So, in the end, the shooting was real, the CNN execs are happy, and the scene was with an actor.
Plausible?

Pinguinite posted on 2016-06-22 16:23:22 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#78. To: Pinguinite (#76)
the CNN execs are happy, and the scene was with an actor

Good take on this. You've got these broadcasters' number.
Lest we forget what CNN is capable of, remember the CNN fake Iraq War SCUD attack reports.

CNN Fake Iraq War Newscast Footage
Hokey attack footage at around 7:00.

randge posted on 2016-06-22 17:12:58 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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