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Title: Man says he fabricated stories about Holocaust, Auschwitz
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URL Source: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016 ... 2551466882009/?spt=hs&or=tn_us
Published: Jun 26, 2016
Author: Stephen Feller
Post Date: 2016-06-26 09:28:25 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 2025
Comments: 41

Joseph Hirt said he tattooed the number of an Auschwitz survivor on his arm and made up the rest of his story after a trip to the concentration camp as a tourist.

WASHINGTON, June 25 (UPI) -- A purported Holocaust survivor was found to have fabricated great swaths of his personal history, from being caught by Nazis in a round-up to meeting Joseph Mengele and escaping from the Auschwitz concentration camp.

Joseph Hirt admitted he is not a Holocaust survivor after history teacher Andrew Reid and his students saw a presentation he gave in New York, fact-checking and attempting to verify the details of the story -- most of which turned out to be untrue.

"I was wrong. I ask forgiveness," 91-year-old Hirt wrote in a letter delivered to LancasterOnline. "I am writing today to apologize publicly for harm caused to anyone because of my inserting myself into the descriptions of life in Auschwitz. I was not a prisoner there. I did not intend to lessen or overshadow the events which truly happened there by falsely claiming to have been personally involved."

Holes in Hirt's story struck Reid immediately during his speech in Lowville, N.Y., the teacher explained in in a letter accompanying more than 20 pages of research dismantling the tale point-by-point.

Hirt claimed he'd been at the 1936 Olympics in Berlin when he was a child, and seen Hitler refuse to shake hands with American athlete Jesse Owens, a long discredited story that experts had already said was highly unlikely.

Hirt was born in Poland in 1930 to Jewish parents, fleeing the Nazis before World War 2 began, going to Belgrade, Yugoslavia, and after the Germans bombed the city, they moved to Italy.

In 1944, when Italy was liberated by the Allies, Hirt's family was among 900 refugees brought to the United States as guests. While the country had not accepted many refugees, those on the boat were given sanctuary in Oswego, New York, at Fort Ontario Camp. While the refugees were allowed to stay in the United States, that has not been the story Hirt told in speeches and presentations.

In his false story, Hirt was recaptured by the Nazis and brought to Auschwitz, where he escaped under a fence -- only to be caught again, but luckily permitted to run away. He also claimed to have met the Nazi "Angel of Death" Josef Mengele at Auschwitz, that a picture of a prisoner at the death camp was him and showed off a number on his forearm.

"I want to be clear -- I am not a Holocaust denier," Reid wrote into Hirt's story. "In fact, the man who hired me for my first teaching job many years ago was a survivor of the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, and it is partly in his memory and for the preservation of the truth of what millions of people endured that I have taken upon myself the task of exposing Mr. Hirt's shameful deception."

After several days of declining to respond to Reid's accusations, Hirt submitted his letter to the newspaper, detailing the depth of his lies, which nearly his entire tale is composed of.

After a trip to Auschwitz, several years after the Holocaust, Hirt claims he was so incensed by visitors to the camp and that it had become a "clean and polished tourist destination," he decided to recast himself at the center of a story he thought could help reinforce the evils of the Nazis.

Reid found no record of Hirt ever going to Auschwitz, and Hirt admitted he'd tattooed the number of one of the camps' survivors, Primo Levi, on his arm after Levi man committed suicide in 1987. The picture of an emaciated prisoner Hirt claimed was him wasn't even taken at Auschwitz, but was of a prisoner at the Dachau camp, Reid found.

Reid claimed there was no way for Hirt to have met Mengele, either, because the "doctor" did not arrive at Auschwitz until months after Hirt claimed to have been there. The story about Jesse Owns had previously been discredited for the most part.

Even Hirt's family members had doubts about the story for years, and found Reid's investigation to be a relief, if for no other reason than because it forced the man to drop the ruse.

"For what I've seen of my Uncle Joe, his story is pretty much correct until the time when he's kidnapped and taken to Auschwitz," Michael Hirt told Lancaster Online after Reid's claims were published, but before his uncle had admitted to the untruths. His real story, he said, is "fantastic by itself."


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Not likely that the rest of the "six million" will come clean.

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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Those camps were called "death camps" because of the Typhus epidemics which raged thru them. It's as simple as that. ;)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-06-26   9:30:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: BTP Holdings (#1)

Those camps were called "death camps" because of the Typhus epidemics which raged thru them. It's as simple as that. ;)

BullBush! That was only ONE of the reasons they were accurately described as "death camps" .

The FACT is they were ALL death camps because the Jews and other "undesirables" were either murdered immediately after they arrived,they were worked to death with an inadequate diet,and/or they died of diseases due to the filthy living conditions they were forced to live with,poor diets,no medical care,etc,etc,etc.

No matter how hard you try,you can't polish a turd,and that's what Nazi's were and are,semi-human turds.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-06-26   14:58:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#6)

The FACT is they were ALL death camps because the Jews and other "undesirables" were either murdered immediately after they arrived,...

Why did the Germans use the coal to transport people halfway across Europe to murder them instead of bayoneting or shooting them where they stood?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-06-27   10:53:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#16) (Edited)

Why did the Germans use the coal to transport people halfway across Europe to murder them instead of bayoneting or shooting them where they stood?

Because they needed the "free" labor and I am GUESSING because they wanted to keep the camps out of sight of most of the German people as much as possible. Don't forget,they also ran German citizens through them that weren't Jewish,but were "undesirables" because of criminal records,physical disabilities,mental problems,or one that just managed to piss off someone with a little authority.

Don't forget,it wasn't the regular German Army units manning the labor and death camps. It was special units from the SS. Ever regular SS infantry,armor,and other combat arms units were kept away from them.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-06-27   15:52:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#18) (Edited)

Don't forget,they also ran German citizens through them that weren't Jewish,but were "undesirables" because of criminal records,physical disabilities,mental problems,or one that just managed to piss off someone with a little authority.

Stephen Spielberg never mentioned non-Jewish camp detainees in any of his films or documentaries.

How did you verify this? The International Red Cross and other presumably reliable info sources have been attacked because their death figures don't support the prevailing Holocaust narrative. (With no explanation as to why they'd lie)

Could you cite your sources and will you stand by them if they've been dismissed by official Holocaust sources?

I mean, one shouldn't cherry pick agreeable facts while attacking others, right? And, because of the controversy, shouldn't you cite your sources for such bold, sweeping statements?

For instance, I asked why the Germans would transport people halfway across Europe only to kill them on arrival and you said, "...because they needed the labor". But, dead people provide no labor. And, why would killing people in faraway Poland be any less suspicious than packing people into rail cars in Germany and having them disappear forever?

And, why would Holocaust supporters take the liberty of speculating to fill in blanks when critics are not permitted the same luxury, and are in fact viciously savaged for it?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-06-28   10:11:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)

Stephen Spielberg never mentioned non-Jewish camp detainees in any of his films or documentaries.

Well,never mind in that case. If you can't believe a zillionaire with a personal agenda,who can you believe?

How did you verify this?

I didn't have to verify it. It is established history available from many sources.

The International Red Cross and other presumably reliable info sources have been attacked because their death figures don't support the prevailing Holocaust narrative. (With no explanation as to why they'd lie)

So what? There are people out there every day claiming Hillary Clinton is honest and that Donald Trump is sane and a conservative. People believe all sorts of foolish shit.

Could you cite your sources and will you stand by them if they've been dismissed by official Holocaust sources?

I could if I cared enough to waste my time looking them up. AFAIAC,my job ends after informing you of the established facts. If you can't be bothered to look it up for yourself,that's on you.

I mean, one shouldn't cherry pick agreeable facts while attacking others, right? And, because of the controversy, shouldn't you cite your sources for such bold, sweeping statements?

You sound to me like a propagandist who is only interested in shouting down what are unpleasant truths to you. Eat shit and die.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-06-28   11:58:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#21)

You sound to me like a propagandist who is only interested in shouting down what are unpleasant truths to you. Eat shit and die.

Phunnie!

So, to politely ask you, a self styled authority for validation is "shouting you down"? (Just how does one shout with text on the internet, anyway? Do you hear voices when challenged, however civilly?) It won't take much of this before folks begin to question your grasp of the meanings of words you use.

Are we to assume that A) you're a well informed authority on the subject and, B) you'll tolerate nothing but blind acceptance of your testy assertions? How are intelligent people to reconcile your expectations with possible symptoms of arrested development, BPD and a coprophagia fixation? (I'm not qualified to diagnose, only to make a referral to those who are.)

Your insults are not only symptomatic, but a poor smokescreen for historical ignorance.

Here's a truism you'd better start warming up to: You are no more entitled to opinions you cannot validate than you're entitled to merchandise you cannot pay for.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-06-28   19:23:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: HOUNDDAWG (#26)

You are nothing but a propagandist and most likely a neo-Nazi. Nobody else is that ignorant and arrogant,and brags about it.

sneakypete  posted on  2016-06-28   19:43:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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