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Title: Roe v. Wade will be overturned if Trump wins, Pence says
Source: LA Times
URL Source: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit ... s/ar-BBv08xz?ocid=ansmsnnews11
Published: Jul 28, 2016
Author: LA Times
Post Date: 2016-07-28 22:13:59 by scrapper2
Keywords: Roe vs Wade, Pence townhall speech
Views: 141
Comments: 23

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. — GOP vice presidential nominee Mike Pence on Thursday predicted that Roe v. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion, would be overturned if Donald Trump is elected president.

“I’m pro-life and I don’t apologize for it,” he said during a town hall meeting here. “We’ll see Roe vs. Wade consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs.”

The comments — made in a conservative stronghold that strongly supported Texas Sen. Ted Cruz over Trump in the Michigan primary — were part of a broader argument Pence has been making on the stakes of the election: Voters need to consider that the next president will likely select multiple Supreme Court justices.

Pence said Trump would appoint strict constitutionalists in the mold of the late Justice Antonin Scalia.

“While we’re choosing a president for the next four years, this next president will make decisions that will impact our Supreme Court for the next 40,” he said. “… Go tell your neighbors and your friends, for the sake of the rule of law, for the sake of sanctity of life, for the sake of our Second Amendment, for the sake of all our other God-given liberties, we must insure the next president appointing justices to the Supreme Court is Donald Trump.”


Poster Comment:

Rash promise. It will serve as a sound bite rallying cry by the Dem Party to bring out their voters.

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#1. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Pence is beyond insane to mention RvW.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-28   22:22:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Lod (#1)

Pence is beyond insane to mention RvW.

Yep - no reason for it except to give meat to the Dem Party and undermine Trump. Pence is a good friend of Calgary Cruz. Hmmm....

scrapper2  posted on  2016-07-28   22:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: scrapper2 (#2)

Trump needs to have a "come to Jesus" meeting with Mikey.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-28   22:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: scrapper2 (#0)

What a dumb ass! Meanwhile the best comeback Trump can muster for Biden is that he would like to hit the little guy... Sheesh!!

Picking Trump or Hillery is like picking warts or herpes.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-28   23:45:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: abraxas (#4) (Edited)

I don't see Trump as a wart or herpes.

I like Trump. Pence is a meh for me. No better or worse than Kaine.

Hillary represents a really bad case of warts and herpes to me. She should be awaiting trial right now.

scrapper2  posted on  2016-07-28   23:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: scrapper2 (#5)

Hillary is a sick pup, but I can't muster gumption for Trump. My problem is I see many similar traits in the two of them: huge ego, exaggeration, lack of transparency, flip flopping, pandering, grand standing, narcissism.

Hopefully, Assange will pull through and do Hillary in on the next dump. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-29   0:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#3)

Mikey is on board to pacify the base...his comments are pandering to Evangelicals. However, what the ticket needs is women voters.

Hillary picked Tim to woe white men....pandering.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-29   0:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: abraxas (#6)

One trait that Trump shows not shared by Hillary in this Presidential campaign.

Trump doesn't need the job. In fact he's making a "yuge" sacrifice both personally and financially.

I respect Trump for jumping into this race as an outsider because he feared for the direction America was on.

scrapper2  posted on  2016-07-29   0:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: scrapper2 (#8)

True, he does not need the job. However, he is a quick study and can see the lucrative side of taking the job.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-29   0:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: abraxas (#7)

However, what the ticket needs is women voters.

Except there was slim pickings for a female VP.

Trump needs the evangelicals to vote who sat on their hands in 2008. Pence is okay for that.

As the concept of a nuclear family unit has broken down over the years, there has been a growing % of female led single family households. And they have become a predictably strong voting bloc for the Dem Party.

There's no way Trump could win over that bloc running on a GOP ticket even if he had Superwoman as his VP. That's the way it is.

scrapper2  posted on  2016-07-29   0:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: scrapper2 (#10)

Hopefully, the Bernie or Bust folks will follow through and vote for Jill Stein. She was outside the DNC courting them. Hillary cannot win without them.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-29   0:35:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: abraxas (#9)

However, he is a quick study and can see the lucrative side of taking the job.

He's a billionaire. He's almost 70 years old. Trump doesn't need this job for $ or prestige. Skylines in various states and countries are dotted with his building legacy.

And actually being President for 4-8 years means that much less time to spend with his family and grand children. Time is not on Trump's side.

No, I truly believe Trump is running because he's worried about America. It's a personal sacrifice for him.

HildaBeast has been a chalk board monitor preparing for this job for multiple decades. She needs this job to complete her evil self.

scrapper2  posted on  2016-07-29   0:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: scrapper2 (#10)

Trump needs to at least get conservative women on board to win, even that block small at this point.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-29   0:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: scrapper2 (#12)

You view Trump as far more altruistic than I do. That is a quality I have not seen in his life and work that generally is evident if a person possesses it.

POTUS has been a long held aspiration for Trump and he skillfully seized an opportunity. He talked about it on Oprah 25 years ago. He is ambitious and likes to achieve his goals and aspirations. He built his empire on that premise.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-29   0:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: abraxas (#13)

You might be surprised about conservative women, especially those in well paying careers ( the Beast's tax plan), and with sons ( it's all about girls for The Beast).

Also living in California, I've been pleasantly surprised to be able to actually a conversation about the Presidential debates with friends and colleagues this time round. Moderate dems especially those with young families are giving Trump close consideration.

The Beast is not very likable. Trump is likable. He's bombastic but I think people are kind of amazed and somewhat impressed that he has the courage to say things out loud which they have been thinking. Illegals and associated crimes and diluted education standards are BIG worries for the middle class in California. Private schools have huge wait lists here. House prices in safe towns/neighborhoods have gone through the roof ( safety worries).

scrapper2  posted on  2016-07-29   0:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Did he even confer with Trump on this? Trump already trumpeted a sort of pro- abortion position, right?

All the evangelicals who haven't had abortions will love this :-] Trump is still a liberaloid at heart, but mebbe playing the savior to a mostly conservative amerika will feed his ego such that he actually does a lot right -- but look for him to do a lot of harm too.

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“We build but to tear down. Most of our work and resource is squandered. Our onward march is marked by devastation. Everywhere there is an appalling loss of time, effort and life. A cheerless view, but true.” - Tesla per FP

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-07-29   0:55:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: scrapper2 (#15)

You may be right. Also, many may not want to admit to a pollster that they are leaning Trump in the current political climate...

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-29   1:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: abraxas (#14)

He talked about it on Oprah 25 years ago.

Probably Oprah thought about running for President 25 years ago, too. No doubt both Oprah and Trump were approached to consider running for President - 2 high profile successful individuals. But talking or thinking about it means nothing because neither pursued that idea in the past.

Trump was self-financed before he was nominated. That's a chunk of commitment, I'd say.

On the other hand Hillary has been bank rolled from the start by billionaires like George Soros and Tom Steyer. In fact tonight shadow banker, "Blackstone, the private equity giant, had scheduled a reception at the Barnes Foundation with its president, Hamilton E. James, one of the leading Wall Street contenders for an economic policy post in a future Clinton administration."

This campaign is not a personal sacrifice or labor of love by HildaBeast. It is for Trump.

scrapper2  posted on  2016-07-29   1:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: scrapper2 (#18)

Trump did it on budget too...he paid 43 cents per vote using the media to his advantage while Hillary paid 43 dollars per vote and had to steal votes from Bernie!

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2016-07-29   1:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: scrapper2 (#0)

Roe v Wade is a court ruling, it is not law. Congress or state general assemblies can pass a law against the ruling IF they had the Mivonks

Darkwing  posted on  2016-07-29   14:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#1)

Pence is beyond insane to mention RvW.

maybe that was what he was supposed to do.

not my quote-"if ones vote could change anything the government would not let you do it" or words to that effect.


I used to be in a hurry, then I figured out I was just getting nowhere fast.

IRTorqued  posted on  2016-07-29   21:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: abraxas (#19)

What a bargain; Yeb!'s three delegates only cost 50M each.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-29   21:32:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: IRTorqued (#21)

I'm sure Pence is getting schooled on what he's to discuss, and what he's not.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-07-29   21:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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