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Title: Trump’s Companies Owe at Least $650Mln to Lenders
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URL Source: http://sputniknews.com/us/20160821/ ... 00/trump-us-business-debt.html
Published: Aug 21, 2016
Author: staff
Post Date: 2016-08-21 03:46:07 by Tatarewicz
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Views: 379
Comments: 46

Sputnik... US presidential contender Donald Trump appears to have twice as much debt as the $315 million that he officially declared in a filing to the Federal Election Commission, US media found.

The Rust Belt Messiah: How Trump Can Resuscitate US Manufacturing MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The billionaire businessman owns properties that have a debt of at least $650 million, the New York Times reported Saturday after studying the paperwork.

The newspaper said Goldman Sachs and the Bank of China were some of Trump’s lenders, this despite his frequent claims that he relied on no one for funding while on the election campaign trail.

One of his indebted properties is an office building in Manhattan in New York City, which comes with a $950 million loan from an array of financial institutions.

The real-estate mogul’s personal wealth is reportedly estimated at over $10 billion. Trump takes pride in his business prowess and has repeatedly said his financial skills will help him lead the country if he is elected.


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#1. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

Lets see now, our government debt has doubled under Obama in eight years.

Ears Obombo says Butch Clinton and her sidekick Bill are best for America.

Trump owes money, what to do?

Cynicom  posted on  2016-08-21   4:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

I hope the readers see the total ignorance of this article and understand that assets minus debts equal net worth. It's really simple.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-08-21   10:01:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

Lets see now, our government debt has doubled under Obama in eight years.

Ears Obombo says Butch Clinton and her sidekick Bill are best for America.

Trump owes money, what to do?

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Source is Sputnik.

When it comes to being masters of embezzling money, look no further than the oligarchs of Russia.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-21   10:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Lod (#2) (Edited)

I hope the readers see the total ignorance of this article and understand that assets minus debts equal net worth. It's really simple.

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There are between 95 and 100 million people in this country on some form of public welfare.

Of those tens of millions, at lest ten million are in this country illegally from Mexico (experts have put that group as high as 20 million), and at least hundreds of thousands of Muslims who are plotting in some way to physically kill Americans.

So, of the last grouping, we are talking about illegal aliens from Mexico, and Muslim terrorists being let in by Obama, and next Hillary (Bush let in massive hordes of illegal Mexicans, and tens of thousands of Muslims with 'other than' good intentions for this country.

There is no saving this country. It is too far gone.

But at least Trump knows where the problems are, and is at least willing to say it in public.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-21   10:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tatarewicz (#0)

This is why he's reluctant to release his tax records.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2016-08-21   10:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Obnoxicated (#5)

His return(s?) are being audited by irs so there is nothing yet to report until the audit is completed. Don't lose any sleep over it, he's not.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-08-21   10:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Lod (#6)

Good. I remember the old tradition where outgoing and former presidents didn't meddle in presidential elections, either. So much for traditions.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2016-08-21   11:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Obnoxicated, Lod (#5)

Obs...

In the political world in particular..."Most of what we hear is not true, half of what we see is not real"...

Cynicom  posted on  2016-08-21   12:37:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#3)

When it comes to being masters of embezzling money, look no further than the oligarchs of Russia

Most Russian oligarchs have been Jew Khazars whose Bolshevik cronies, it appears, brought down the Soviet regime in order to get personal control of the country's resources and assets in order to better serve Israel. Not much different from Khazarkian oligarchs in the West who got control via mutual funds.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2016-08-23   4:09:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#4)

at least hundreds of thousands of Muslims who are plotting in some way to physically kill Americans

Only because US, whose Congress is controlled by Israel agents, is causing so much havoc for Arabs, protecting the illegal Israeli state which is stealing property of Palestinians. You'd be ticked too if someone protected a thief who stole your property, bull-dozed down your house to make room for squatters.

Tatarewicz  posted on  2016-08-23   4:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tatarewicz (#9)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-23   12:19:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tatarewicz (#10)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-23   12:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#11)

Anyone that believes the Communist Soviet Union is dead, needs a saliva test.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-08-23   12:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Lod, Obnoxicated, (#6)

This is why he's reluctant to release his tax records.

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His return(s?) are being audited by irs so there is nothing yet to report until the audit is completed. Don't lose any sleep over it, he's not.

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For this to work, it would mean the IRS is covering up for Trump.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

If anything, they want to send him to prison.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-23   12:24:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#13) (Edited)

Anyone that believes the Communist Soviet Union is dead, needs a saliva test.

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I'm not sure if it is Communism wanting to come back or if it is Putin who makes people think he is wanting it to come back. Communism is totalitarianism.

Just ask any Russian who publicly speaks out against Putin. Especially in St. Pertersburg or Moscow.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-23   12:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#15)

or if it is Putin who makes people think he is wanting it to come back.

Poots grandfather worked his entire life as a cook for Lenin and then Stalin.

Poot just "happens" to become Russian dictator?

Cynicom  posted on  2016-08-23   12:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#1)

Ears Obombo

I call him Brak Yomama.

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2016-08-23   15:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#16)

Poot just "happens" to become Russian dictator?

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Being the national KGB Chief at the time didn't hurt any either.

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-23   16:30:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#18)

Contrary to neocon/neoliberal propaganda, Putin was never the "national KGB chief". In fact, he was never even a field agent. He was a lowly KGB analyst.

At the end of his KGB career however, think he was in charge of the Dresden field office.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-23   16:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#16)

So now a duly elected president is a "dictator" because you feel he should get on his knees for Obama yet doesn't?

What's that make Obama, or the horde of tyrants he supports?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-23   16:58:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: FormerLurker (#19)

Contrary to neocon/neoliberal propaganda, Putin was never the "national KGB chief". In fact, he was never even a field agent. He was a lowly KGB analyst.

At the end of his KGB career however, think he was in charge of the Dresden field office.

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I personally know a Russian who had a fist fight with Vlad when Vlad was in his late teens. Vlad ran with gangs during those years, as was typical of Russian teenagers. He was well known on the street.

Yeah, he was a KGB Colonel.

In 1990 Putin returned to Leningrad and took a job in the international affairs department at his alma mater, screening foreign students. However, that was a cover for his continuing intelligence work. Before long, one of his former university professors, Anatoly Sobchak, who had become the first mayor of St. Petersburg (the former Leningrad), asked him to join his administration. In 1991, just as the Soviet Union was beginning to be unraveled, Putin resigned from the KGB at the rank of colonel, in order to get involved in politics. He allegedly quit because he wanted to be part of the important changes going on in Russia at the time, or perhaps because many of his colleagues in the KGB were persecuted after the fall of the Berlin Wall. In any event, he became the mayor's external affairs aide and, in 1994 became deputy mayor. However, a Newsweek report suggested that he might have been an infiltrator there as well.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Vladimir_Vladimirovich_Putin.aspx

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-23   21:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#21)

That's a lot more than we know about buckwheat, thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-08-23   21:49:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Lod (#22)

That's a lot more than we know about buckwheat,

The question still remains as to Obummer's place of birth. He likely was never born in Hawaii. And he may be the first President to occupy the Oval Office illegally. This is in regards to his place of birth. He is Kenyan, and so was his father. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-08-23   21:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: BTP Holdings (#23)

As I've said before, he's the cia's ultimate black-op against this country.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-08-23   22:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#1)

Ears Obombo says Butch Clinton and her sidekick Bill are best for America.

Trump owes money, what to do?

VOTE FOR TRUMP!

VOTE FOR TRUMP!

VOTE FOR TRUMP!

When given choice between drinking swamp water and hemlock, swamp water's a better chance of survival. I think I really hate him, but that's life in Jewmerica.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-24   0:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#21)

Yeah, he was a KGB Colonel.

Yeah, but that doesn't make him the "national KGB chief", unlike our illustrious 41st president, George H. W. Bush, who was the Director of the CIA.

There were more than a few active KGB Colonels at any one time, so that means that Putin might not have been a chief, but he was good at what he did as not everyone made it that far up the ranks.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-24   0:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom, HAPPY2BME-4UM (#13)

Anyone that believes the Communist Soviet Union is dead, needs a saliva test.

What you fail to comprehend is that the Soviet Union did not become Russia, Russia had been turned into the Soviet Union after the Jews overthrew the Russian Empire.

Russia has become Russia again, the Soviet Union and its associated Communism were an aberration in Russia's long history, not the norm.

So to clarify things, do you think Alexandr Solzhenitsyn was lying about what he wrote? Do you think Russians are to blame for the woes brought upon them by the Bolsheviks?

Are you saying that he was lying when he wrote these words?

"You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators."
-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

From what I've seen of your posts here on 4um, Cyni, it appears to me that you're more on the side of the Bolsheviks.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-24   0:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM, Tatarewicz, Lod, NeoconsNailed, Rotara, All (#11)

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Interesting part of history I admit I have not looked into before now. Thanks for that post, it cleared up a lot of things, and provides insight into what is happening in OUR country in this present day.

Here's a link that shines more light on the entire picture.

Judeofascism.com


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-24   0:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: FormerLurker (#27)

What you fail to comprehend is that the Soviet Union did not become Russia, Russia had been turned into the Soviet Union after the Jews overthrew the Russian Empire.

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No, I'm saying Solzhenitsyn was right.

I didn't fail to comprehend the conversion of Russia to the USSR either.

What I am saying is that there is a massive movement in Russia to return it to the USSR.

You know this, right?

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-24   0:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#29) (Edited)

No, I'm saying Solzhenitsyn was right.

I didn't fail to comprehend the conversion of Russia to the USSR either.

Happy, you misunderstood my post. I was directing that to Cyni, and simply was pinging you since he's the one who disagreed with your post 11 which brought up the topic of Solzhenitsyn.

I later thanked you for posting that, I learned something new.

What I am saying is that there is a massive movement in Russia to return it to the USSR.

You know this, right?

As far as there being a movement within Russia to reestablish the USSR, if there were I'd say there are probably those who miss the power and prestige the USSR once had around the world. I doubt however that they miss the gulags, persecution, and hard times imposed on them by an unworkable economic system and authoritarian government.

But sure, if you were Russian, would you like to feel that your nation is being disrespected and treated as a second rate country by the US and other western nations? For that reason I can see some of them wishing the USSR had not collapsed, and that some would see Gorbachev as a traitor.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-24   1:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#29) (Edited)

In terms of the Bolsheviks, don't you see that perhaps those stirring up the trouble within AND outside of Russia are those who are following the same path?

For instance, might people such as Victoria Nuland (Nudelman) and her hubby Robert Kagan be modern day Bolsheviks?

Nuland’s Jewish Hubbie Wants War


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-24   1:13:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: FormerLurker, All (#27) (Edited)

Cynicom is right. Somehow it's always a surprise when rightists miss the permanence of the Russian/Soviet threat, esp in places like this where the Jew grip on the planet is understood.

It tragicomically reminds me of something from 40 years ago. A high school pal's family were Methodists but their surname, Fisher, is one of those ostensibly WASP names that's virtually always Jue.

My world was far from perfect -- it was the chaotic 70s in greater Zoo City after all -- but opposition to communism was basically a given with everybody I knew, if only in the form of a tacit floating disgust at the idea. Well, Fisher worked for the YMCA and got included on some goodwill exchange trips to the Soviet Jewnion.

I (being of staunch anti-communist family background) asked him about it all. Suddenly the curtain was rent in twain. Mr. Fisher was a huffy asserter (EXACTLY in the mode of a rootless cosmopolitan Jue) of what sounded like canned talking points straight from Moscow. And his thrust was that we needn't oppose and hate the USSR because it was merely Russian business as usual!

"Those concentration camps you hate," he said, "they're not communist. They existed under the czars. Nothing's really new over there."

So who should I believe, Mr. Fisher who was over there and saw it personally or you guys and gals who include an armchair warrior or three?

The irony is certainly priceless, don't you think? Fisher tried to dispel what he thought was my mindless jingoism by saying the USSR and Russia were basically synonymous. Now it's "the USSR is dead -- long live the free democratic Christian Russian wonderland and its noble chieftain Sir Putinovich!" It's so EASY to look at things that way, sort of like swallowing a Quaalude.

Say -- this reminds me of something. The early 1980s rebranding of commie China. The politically-correct Episcopal preest was invited on a brainwashing tour there and came back declaring "China is changed!".....

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-24   1:13:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: NeoconsNailed (#32)

So I'm supposed to believe that Alexandr Solzhenitsyn was a liar, and that some rambling poster on 4um named NeoconsNailed who apparently shifts direction like the wind is the real truth teller, eh?


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-24   1:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: NeoconsNailed (#32)

The early 1980s rebranding of commie China. The politically-correct Episcopal preest was invited on a brainwashing tour there and came back declaring "China is changed!".....

Thing is, China is still a COMMUNIST nation, whereas the Russian Federation is a constitutional republic with free elections, operating under a capitalist economic system.

And yep, MOST people there in Russia are Orthodox Christians. China is atheist.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-24   1:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: FormerLurker (#33)

So I'm supposed to believe that Alexandr Solzhenitsyn was a liar

If you can get that out of what I wrote, pardner, there's not much this almost- famous activist condemned by the SPLC can say :-s

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-24   1:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FormerLurker (#34) (Edited)

Making it sooooo easy to take refuge in the comparison game!

Russia is freer and more Christian (though increasingly towelheaded) than China, ergo it can't be a continuation of the USSR. Roger.

I don't know where you're sitting as we have this Conversation, but you and the others agreeing with you have a markedly different view of Russia than people who live right next door to it.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/03/19/291428078/why-ukraine-makes- russia-s-other-neighbors-nervous

Mebbe yawl would like to contact and reassure them that all is cool?

Remember, I'm on yawl's side. All I want's the truth, and the facts on this are (IMHO) so grim I'd almost rather be wrong about it.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-24   1:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: NeoconsNailed (#36)

http://www.npr.org

NPR? You're joking, right?

NPR: National Public Radio Or National Propaganda Radio?

Remember, I'm on yawl's side. All I want's the truth, and the facts on this are (IMHO) so grim I'd almost rather be wrong about it.

The only "side" I take is that of truth, and that of peaceful people to exist and live without fear of those who would prey upon them.

From what I've seen of your postings, it appears to me that you've either fallen for the BS flowing out of propaganda outlets, or we're not on the same side.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2016-08-24   1:54:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: FormerLurker (#37) (Edited)

Here's the search -- take your pick of sources

tinyurl.com/zkj6f3q

I respect you, but am surprised that you'd throw such a story out just because it's from NPR. Half the links posted in places like 4um are from the lamestream media -- ever noticed? They carry some actually worthwhile material to get people to swallow the poison. If they're opposing Russia this decade, it's no doubt partly because rightists are rhapsodizing so passionately about it -- people automatically polarize themselves ("hooray for our side" -- Buffalo Springfield).

Next irony in the series..... that NPR piece is identical to the anti- communist literature of the 1950s-80s that was ridiculed by these very media because it was so true and embarrassing for them. Since Russia is ostensibly rebelling against Jue power now it's on the jewsmedia's Schyttelist -- but look for it to change back again within 25 years.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-24   2:23:01 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: NeoconsNailed (#38)

Next irony in the series..... that NPR piece is identical to the anti- communist literature of the 1950s-80s that was ridiculed by these very media because it was so true and embarrassing for them. Since Russia is ostensibly rebelling against Jue power now it's on the jewsmedia's Schyttelist -- but look for it to change back again within 25 years.

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The only world power I'm thinking will still exist in its current form 25 years from now is China.

The USA will fade away into the 3rd world (e.g., Pakistan, India, Mexico), and Russia will be far into the post-Putin era, but still teetering for a second place behind China.

But who knows, really?

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-24   4:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#39)

But who knows, really?

No one knows from knowledge set in concrete.

There are many thinking people, with no axe to grind, that look forward in time, trying to assess the future by melding the past and the present.

Take a look at such pondering by good people, intelligent people.

Many currently see the year 2030 as being at or near the time for world upheaval. Their basis is geo/politics and the failure of men.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-08-24   4:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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