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Title: "It's Not Some Barbarous Relic" - Trump Adviser Urges Return To Gold Standard
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URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016- ... ser-urges-return-gold-standard
Published: Aug 21, 2016
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2016-08-21 22:26:48 by Horse
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Views: 590
Comments: 23

You can read the article at the above source about Trump's economic advidor. Dr Judy Shelton. She works for the sound money project and has written several books. Here bio is here. https://www.atlasnetwork.org/about/people/judy-shelton-ph.d

In the ZH article she says she is not opposed to another Bretton Woods conference and a return to some form of a gold standard. This woman is an idiot. She is dangerous. If Trump followed her policies, we would have a global civil war of those who have against those who don't. The Depression would not be over until 3 or 4 billion people died. A gold standard is that bad. I advise people to buy gold and silver to survive. But a gold standard would ruin the nation. We had a gold standard from 1929 to 1933. The worst Depression in histroy started in 1348 on a gold standard.

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Well let's just dump trump then and get on with the final flush from A Weekend at Hillary's!


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-08-21   22:58:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

I did not write this but I could have!!! Had to share this: Ok people, soap box moment……… Millions of trump supporters feel this way about Donald J. Trump…..”We don’t care if the guy swears… or how many times he’s been married…or who he voted for, or what his income tax return shows. We want the problems fixed. Yes he’s an egomaniac, but we don’t care. We know he’s not a racist, or bad to women, or all the other things the liberal media is trying to label him with. We know he’s raised a good family, and that says a lot about him. The country is a mess because politicians suck, the Republican Party is two faced & gutless, and illegals are everywhere and Muslims are openly trying to hurt this country and make the civilized world adjust to them. We want it all fixed! We don’t care that Trump is crude, we don’t care that he has changed positions, we don’t care that he fights with Megan Kelly, Rosie O’Donnell, and so many of the elected establishment. We don’t care that Rubio, Cruz, Ryan, the Bush’s, and so many other top old and new Republicans refuse to endorse him for their own selfish reasons, and we know what they are. We don’t care that he doesn’t know the name of some Muslim terrorists, we don’t care that he tried some businesses that didn’t work out. This country is weak, bankrupt, our enemies are making fun of us, we are being invaded by illegals, we are becoming a nation of victims, where every Tom, Ricardo and Hasid is a special group with special rights to a point where we don’t even recognize the country we were born and raised in, AND WE JUST WANT IT FIXED. And TRUMP is the only guy who seems to understand what the people want. We’re sick of politicians, sick of the Democratic and Republican Party. We’re angry about the Iran deal, the budget, treatment of Israel, military weakness, lobbyists, special interests, overpaid politicians with their self serving bills and back room deals, trade deals, loss of jobs, manipulated economic numbers, businesses fleeing, and even the phoney pay for play Clinton Foundation. Americans are no longer going to be fooled, and the movement is out to change the direction we’re taking. Trump may not be a saint, but he doesn’t have lobbyist money holding him, he doesn’t have political correctness restraining him, and all you know is that he has been very successful, a good negotiator, he has built a lot of things, he’s flexible, and he’s also not a politician. And he says he’ll fix it. And we believe him because he is too much of an egotist to be proven wrong or looked at and called a liar. Public service has become elected greed. This may be our only chance to have a non-politician, despite his flaws, try and correct the mess, at least for 4 years. We must take the shot, because the consequences of putting Hillary Clinton in office are frightening. There is a tidal wave happening, and its going to overcome much of what’s happened to this country. You can repost this. Reply

Just lifted that off of social chit shat networks.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2016-08-21   23:48:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rotara (#2)

I am still voting for Trump. Hillary would be worse. At least understands that if you go bankrupt creditors do not get 100 cents on the dollar. I am more interested in the Trump voters than in Trump. Very few people understand money. And none can tell the truth about money on TV.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2016-08-22   1:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Horse (#0)

Help me out here -- America's glory days were all on the gold standard, weren't they? The Federal Reserve was the death sentence of the g.s., and it appears to be finally killing the economy once and for all "as if" planned that way.

All the great white countries and then some are coming apart at the seams in the zenith of the funny money/central banking age. What's the answer, bro?

(Walking along NYC sidewalks one day I suddenly realized I was passing in front of the tallest building in the world -- but only because it said Empire State Building on the front :-)

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-22   2:10:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Horse (#3)

Everybody please please PLEASE vote for Trump!

Everybody keep tracking his evils just like anybody else's, but please please PLEASE vote for him!

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-22   3:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: NeoconsNailed, Rotara, (#4) (Edited)

Our longest Depression was in the 19th century when the US withdrew Greenbacks from circulation. There is no way out of a Depression except through a Debt Cancellation. The Federal Reserve would give you a $20 gold coin anytime you showed up with a $20 bill until 1933. The Depression started on the gold standard. All Depressions are preceded by the accumulation of mountains of Unpayable Debts. That is through fractional reserve banking which happens even on a gold standard. Returning to the gold standard offers nothing. We need Debt Cancellation. It can only be paid for by arresting Bankers and seizing their assets.

The solution is to issue a non-interest bearing currency like Greenbacks and to ban fractional reserve banking. A Gold Standard solves nothing. In fact it would force us to balance both our budget deficit and our trade deficit in 90 days. Simple. Fire 10 million government workers, end Food Stamps, welfare and half of disability. Balance our trade deficit by quadrupling the price of coffee, tea, cars, electronics and everything else we import. And be prepared to let foreigners buy all our food off the shelves because they have gold and we don't. There are rational solutions and a gold standard is just idiotic. The US economy and government would cease to exist because 90 million Americans would have nothing to eat. But, if you want a war on American soil, you can have that. But be prepared to see 150 million Americans die.

I am voting for Trump. Hillary would destroy the world.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2016-08-22   3:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY

HAPPY2BME-4UM  posted on  2016-08-22   4:15:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Horse (#6) (Edited)

The US economy and government would cease to exist because 90 million Americans would have nothing to eat. But, if you want a war on American soil, you can have that. But be prepared to see 150 million Americans die.

I am voting for Trump. Hillary would destroy the world.

This is what Obummer wants. And he wants the U.N. to control our guns. They can have them, one bullet at a time.

And the death toll in a war on American soil would be astronomical, in the hundreds of millions.

I am voting for Trump also. Screw the Mexicans. I hope he builds a wall 50 feet high. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-08-22   5:33:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Rotara (#2)

Whoever wrote that is spot on. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2016-08-22   5:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Horse (#6)

In fact it would force us to balance both our budget deficit and our trade deficit in 90 days.

You're working from a worst-case scenario. "Anything that must be done can be done" -- Bob Jones Sr. Surely we'd be helped by (for instance, for openers) the fedgov legalizing voluntary use of Ag and Au as money including by state govts. The consciousness and interest is definitely out there.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-22   9:24:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: NeoconsNailed, 4 (#10)

The reality of a Texas' gold, and other PMs, depository is getting closer and closer as I type.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-08-22   9:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Lod (#11)

Fantastic. May secesh follow it, and the feds dare no assault!

Please give us a report pronto and keep 'em coming.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2016-08-22   10:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: NeoconsNailed (#12)

May secesh follow it, and the feds dare no assault!

Yes, that would be ideal.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-08-22   10:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: NeoconsNailed (#12)

34 - Executive Order 6102 - Requiring Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and Gold Certificates to Be Delivered to the Government April 5, 1933 Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt Franklin D. Roosevelt
1933 Franklin D. Roosevelt 1933

"""By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5 (b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933, entitled "An Act to provide relief in the existing national emergency in banking, and for other purposes," in which amendatory Act Congress declared that a serious emergency exists,

I, Franklin D. Roosevelt, President of the United States of America, do declare that said national emergency still continues to exist and pursuant to said section do hereby prohibit the hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates within the continental United States by individuals, partnerships, associations and corporations and hereby prescribe the following regulations for carrying out the purposes of this order:"""

Cynicom  posted on  2016-08-22   11:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

FU FDR

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-08-22   11:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#14) (Edited)

Dr Judy Shelton

I know who she is, have read her, and she wasn't at all bad-looking when younger. She has an enormous forehead, but then, so does Turtle!

"Have Brain, Will Travel

Turtle  posted on  2016-08-22   12:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Lod (#15)

When FDR died, people were weeping in the streets.

Idolatry is a human failing.

Cynicom  posted on  2016-08-22   13:22:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Horse (#0)

We had a gold standard from 1929 to 1933. The worst Depression in history started in 1348 on a gold standard.

A gold standard (or sound weights and measures) don't cause modern depressions. Rothschild banks do.

The week before The Crash deposits exceeded withdrawals, but banks acting in concert suddenly contracted the money (credit) supply. When divestiture was forced on industries that routinely borrowed capital costs annually, many lost big and few gained unimaginable wealth for pennies on the dollar.

But, when it came time for a scorched Earth policy against Germany there was plenty of money to be loaned *for profit* for the "war effort".

Smedley Butler's book details the numbers of new millionaires and billionaires that were created by both of the 20th century's bankers' wars. And, the same bankers who speak against gold hoard it as no other class has in the history of the world.

It's possible to prevent engineered financial crashes. Would you have us believe that they're Acts Of God and nothing can de done about them? This is the religious belief of those who presume that the Federal Reserve is the only way to control the money supply.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-08-22   14:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#11) (Edited)

The reality of a Texas' gold, and other PMs, depository is getting closer and closer as I type.

One nuclear-tipped Sidewinder (launched by cave dwelling terrorists of course) and the golden slag heaps will be too radioactive to recover.

If Texas addresses a symptom while leaving the problem intact the state will fail.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2016-08-22   14:30:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#14)

"""By virtue of the authority vested in me by Section 5 (b) of the Act of October 6, 1917, as amended by Section 2 of the Act of March 9, 1933,

This was an amendment to the original TRADING WITH THE ENEMY ACT (making licenses necessary for foreigners to transact business in the U.S.during WW I) .... once amended by FDR made all Americans enemies of the United States and required all transactions to be regulated, licensed, or taxed. Uncle Sambo ain't nobody's friend !

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

"White Lives Matter Most if you're white"

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2016-08-22   14:49:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18)

There is not enough gold to function as money. Most money in 1929 was checking account deposits. This is money the Bankers create out of nothing. It accumulates until we have a mountain Unpayable Debts. You have to repeal fractional reserve banking. I prefer a currency like Greenbacks so we can spend money into creation. I would do that so we could pay for new infrastructure without taxation. A gold standard would destroy America as we do not have enough gold to buy from overseas.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2016-08-22   14:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#18)

A gold standard (or sound weights and measures) don't cause modern depressions. Rothschild banks do.

I couldn't agree more.

The monopoly given to central banks that allows them to create money (so-called) out of thin air and lend it at interest is a ludicrous concept that is tantamount to a monopoly on enslavement.

Not only that, a monetary system based upon (fictional money that's actually debt monetized)) commercial credit and currency mandates a legal system based upon commercial laws, not the Constitution or common law.

"Honest, April 15th is the real April Fool's Day".

"The almighty Dollar ain't worth a buck".

"White Lives Matter Most if you're white"

Doug Scheidt

noone222  posted on  2016-08-22   15:01:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19)

Getting our Au out of NYC is a good start.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2016-08-22   15:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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