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Title: Trump's Campaign Manager Offered Her Most Brilliant Defense Yet of Trump's Lies
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URL Source: http://www.esquire.com/news-politic ... nl_enl_news&src=nl&date=092616
Published: Sep 26, 2016
Author: Jack Holmes
Post Date: 2016-09-26 21:25:22 by BTP Holdings
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Trump's Campaign Manager Offered Her Most Brilliant Defense Yet of Trump's Lies
How can it be a lie if you don't know which facts are true?
By Jack Holmes
Sep 26, 2016
We have entered post-reality politics. Donald Trump said last week that NBC's Lester Holt, the moderator for tonight's presidential debate, is a Democrat. The implication was that, like the rest of the liberal mainstream media, Holt would be biased against Trump and that's the only reason he could lose.
"By the way, Lester is a Democrat," Trump said in an interview with Bill O'Reilly. "It's a phony system. They are all Democrats. It's a very unfair system."
Almost immediately, various outlets looked into it and discovered Holt is actually a Republican.
But no matter. Trump's campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, joined MSNBC's Morning Joe today, and Mark Halperin asked her about Trump's issues with the truth—namely, that he doesn't seem bothered with telling it. Halperin brought up the Holt example, and Conway let loose one of the more extraordinary defenses of blatant lying there ever was.
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I am watching the debate and we shall see who wins. This article is typical MSM BS.
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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
To the low-information viewers (that I don't think bothered to watch) the PIAPS performed very well with her lies, deceptions, and distortions. Trump should have hammered her on many, many more topics.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2016-09-26 23:00:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Lod (#1)

Daffy Trump is clearly ready for Hillary.
He totally unraveled by the end of the debate.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

Castle(C), Stein(G), Johnson(L)
hondo68 posted on 2016-09-26 23:14:19 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Lod (#1)
Jim, I totally agree with your assessment. I was disappointed with Trump's performance. I think he blew several opportunities especially on the cyber security topic. He didn't win anyone who may have been on the fence, imo.

christine posted on 2016-09-26 23:17:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
I am watching the debate and we shall see who wins.

Neither won the debate; in fact, Hillary won on the fact that she had the stamina to stand and debate for 90 minutes without appearing to have some medical problem, without showing signs of collapsing, appearing to have dementia, or act crazy, all or any of which I kind of expected. If Hillary has a medical problem or the start of dementia, she certainly failed to show it during the debate.
Unless, before the election, Hillary proves of have a real medical problem or dementia, the demographics favors her to such an extent that I am now convinced she will be the next president. Before the debate, I believed Trump would win.

DWornock posted on 2016-09-26 23:33:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: DWornock (#4)
Professional politicians have it down pat.

Tatarewicz posted on 2016-09-27 0:14:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: christine, Lod (#3)
He didn't win anyone who may have been on the fence, imo.

Being very olde, totally jaded, I listened to some Bach, then retired for the evening.
With political posturing since the 1930s, voting on the merits of a debate or personal tirade rarely happens. If anyone gets this close to the election and has not made up their mind, there is but one conclusion, there is a vacuum between their ears.
Remember, most of what we hear is untrue, much of what we see is unreal.
Cynicism at its best.

Cynicom posted on 2016-09-27 1:23:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: DWornock (#4)
Here's my take on it now. If the economy collapses before election day, then I hope Trump wins. If it doesn't, I hope Hillary is seated as I want it to happen on her watch. Trump will be blamed for it otherwise. He'd be the perfect fall guy. Surely he knows that?

christine posted on 2016-09-27 8:45:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: christine (#7)
Donald Trump has already said that Janet Yellen is suppressing interest rates and he knows what is coming when he wins the election. Last night he said that we are sitting on a very big economic bubble.
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2016-09-27 11:22:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Cynicom (#6)
Trump has to be careful as it is rumored Hillary is a woman and treating a woman as an equal can be seen as bullying by those who are sexist. Be too easy and you wimped out.

lwayne posted on 2016-09-27 17:10:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: lwayne (#9)
I gave up voting many long years ago.
My motto became, "if you vote you agree with the system".
Why now? First time in long time that a non professional politician running for office. Give it one more time. The Titanic is going down and I will take my chances in the Trump lifeboat, even if it leaks.

Cynicom posted on 2016-09-27 17:29:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: Tatarewicz (#5)
Professional politicians have it down pat.

That is true. They have that ability. Otherwise, they would not be successful politicians.

DWornock posted on 2016-09-27 18:00:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: christine (#7)
Here's my take on it now. If the economy collapses before election day, then I hope Trump wins. If it doesn't, I hope Hillary is seated as I want it to happen on her watch. Trump will be blamed for it otherwise. He'd be the perfect fall guy. Surely he knows that?

I believe you express it as well as anyone can. I believe the economy will collapse but it is not likely to happen before the election. Certainly, after a collapse, whoever and whichever party is in office will be blamed.
I believe if Trump should somehow be elected and the collapse occurs after the election but before he takes office on (I believe about January 20), then the Obama and the democrats would be blamed. And, likely Obama would be blamed if a collapse occurs during the first 3 months of a Trump administration. However, after that, I agree Trump will be the perfect fall guy and I believe the Federal Reserve will do all in their power to delay any collapse until then.

DWornock posted on 2016-09-27 18:14:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: DWornock (#12)
The Fed will delay any collapse until they run out of paper and ink to print any more fiat currency.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2016-09-27 19:32:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: DWornock, chrisitine (#12)
I believe if Trump should somehow be elected and the collapse occurs after the election but before he takes office on (I believe about January 20), then the Obama and the democrats would be blamed. And, likely Obama would be blamed if a collapse occurs during the first 3 months of a Trump administration. However, after that, I agree Trump will be the perfect fall guy and I believe the Federal Reserve will do all in their power to delay any collapse until then.

According to the information I've seen, the Dollar is doomed. It may not affect the average person in the U.S., but the new mode of exchange will be Special Drawing Rights (SDR).
According to the Soviet economist, Nikolai Kondratiev, the Dollar has run its course as the world reserve currency. Stalin had Kondratiev killed because he understood how the domestic economy worked. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kondratiev_wave
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2016-09-27 19:48:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: DWornock (#12)
the economy will collapse

No reason for US economy to collapse; enough skilled manpower and resources available to meet needs of consumers, actually more than enough looking at the acres of autos for sale and 40% of food production going to dump.
Collapse could be deliberately instigated as in the case of Soviet Union to enable Jews to buy up assets at bargain prices but they don't have enough control in America's corporate sector to do this.

Tatarewicz posted on 2016-09-27 23:35:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: Lod (#13)
The Fed will delay any collapse until they run out of paper and ink to print any more fiat currency.

The Fed may do that regardless of an upcoming presidential election or who wins the election.

DWornock posted on 2016-09-29 21:24:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: DWornock (#16)
Agree, it makes zero difference to the jews who's in the White Hut.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2016-09-29 21:28:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: BTP Holdings (#14)
According to the information I've seen, the Dollar is doomed.

Most likely that is basically true; in part because China, Russia, and other countries don't like giving the USA the advantage of having the world's reserve currency and even more so because the USA does nothing to maintain the value of the dollar.

DWornock posted on 2016-09-29 21:29:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: DWornock (#18) (Edited)
Most likely that is basically true; in part because China, Russia, and other countries don't like giving the USA the advantage of having the world's reserve currency and even more so because the USA does nothing to maintain the value of the dollar.

Today is D-Day for the U.S. Dollar. On October 1, the U.S. Dollar will be replaced by a new currency called SDR, or Special Drawing Rights. It is for use only by the elites. All other counties, including the U.S. will continue using their own currencies.
If this sounds strange, don't be alarmed. You likely will not see increase in prices, except for foreign made goods. And what is in out stores anyway? The U.S. runs the largest trade deficit in the world. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2016-09-30 21:08:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: BTP Holdings (#19)
I don't know anything about Special Drawing Rights (SDR). However, at some point, China, Japan, and Saudi Arabia are going to start dumping the USD. China already is but very slowly; probably because dumping the USD fast would cause it to lose too much value. And, Saudi Arabia is threatening to if the 911 lawsuit veto is overturned. In any event, once one of those countries starts rapidly dumping the USD, it will be a race, by not only the top three but by most other countries, because no country wants to be last and have their holdings of USDs drop by half or more.
I believe that is a total of $7 trillion which will cause prices in the USA to increase by 25% or more. However, social security and other government checks will not increase by much because that would make the deficits too extreme. That implies wages will not increase much either because with increased prices and less money to spend, fewer goods will be sold resulting in layoffs compounding the problem because then there will be even less goods sold plus many more drawing unemployment. That implies the Federal Reserve will have no choice but to create (counterfeit) more dollars resulting in even greater price increases. That is, a deadly spiral that will result in a collapse of the USD or else default of government debt. Whatever, I believe I will get nasty.

DWornock posted on 2016-10-01 13:36:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: DWornock (#20) (Edited)
Special Drawing Rights (SDR)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2016-10-01 18:26:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: BTP Holdings (#21)
Special Drawing Rights (SDR)

Just a basket of currencies backed by nothing replacing a currency backed by nothing but worthless promises. It is all folly because over time they will go to zero.

DWornock posted on 2016-10-04 0:03:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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