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Title: EXCLUSIVE: 'American mercenaries are torturing' Saudi elite rounded up by new crown prince - and billionaire Prince Alwaleed was hung upside down 'just to send a message'
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URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... s-torturing-Saudi-princes.html
Published: Nov 23, 2017
Author: Ryan Parry,
Post Date: 2017-11-23 08:44:32 by Ada
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Source in Saudi Arabia says American private security contractors are carrying out'interrogations' on princes and billionaires arrested in crackdown Detained members of Saudi elite have been hung by their feet and beaten by interrogates, source says Among those hung upside down are Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, an investor worth at least $7 billion who is being held at Riyadh's Ritz Carlton Arrests were ordered three weeks ago by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman Source claims mercenaries are from 'Blackwater', a claim also made by Lebanese president But its successor firm denies it has any operations in Saudi Arabia whatsoever and says its staff abide by U.S. law Americans who commit torture abroad can be jailed for up to 20 years

Saudi princes and billionaire businessmen arrested in a power grab earlier this month are being strung up by their feet and beaten by American private security contractors, a source in the country tells DailyMail.com.
The group of the country's most powerful figures were arrested in a crackdown ordered by Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman three weeks ago as he ordered the detention of at least 11 fellow princes and hundreds of businessmen and government officials over claims of corruption.
Just last month, the Crown Prince vowed to restore 'moderate, open Islam' in the kingdom and relaxed a number of its ultra-conservative rules, including lifting a ban on women driving.
DailyMail.com can disclose that the arrests have been followed by 'interrogations' which a source said were being carried out by 'American mercenaries' brought in to work for the 32-year-old crown prince, who is now the kingdom's most powerful figure.
'They are beating them, torturing them, slapping them, insulting them. They want to break them down,' the source told DailyMail.com.
'Blackwater' has been named by DailyMail.com's source as the firm involved, and the claim of its presence in Saudi Arabia has also been made on Arabic social media, and by Lebanon's president.
The firm's successor, Academi, strongly denies even being in Saudi Arabia and says it does not engage in torture, which it is illegal for any U.S. citizen to commit anywhere in the world.
The Saudi crown prince, according to the source, has also confiscated more than $194 billion from the bank accounts and seized assets of those arrested.
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#1. To: Ada (#0)
Saudi princes and billionaire businessmen arrested in a power grab earlier this month are being strung up by their feet and beaten by American private security contractors, a source in the country tells DailyMail.com.

Typical backwards goathumpers.
Somebody needs to tell the Crown Prince that they are hanging their enemies by the wrong end. Hang them by their necks and you have no more trouble with them.
Then again,he seems focused on stealing all their money from them,and there ain't much in the world more useless or less powerful that a Prince with no money. The BEST jobs they could hope for would be Uber Driver or Hotel Doorman and Porter because none of them know anything or have ever had an actual job.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
sneakypete posted on 2017-11-23 9:09:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: sneakypete (#1)
Hang them by their necks and you have no more trouble with them.

The "Clown Prince" as they call him has been ham-handed and foolish. From Yemen to Qatar to Syria he covered himself in stupid.
But he hasn't completely taken leave of his senses. He won't ignite a blood feud.
He'll shame his adversaries, but he won't kill them.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
randge posted on 2017-11-23 9:46:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: randge (#2) (Edited)
He'll shame his adversaries, but he won't kill them.

The Muslims have been killing each other since the start, and they have also been killing idolaters for centuries. ;)
www.alislam.org/library/u...-quran-say-that- infidels-should-be-killed/
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2017-11-23 10:04:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)
The Muslims have been killing each other since the start

Ferchrissakes, Chirstians have been killing each other for centuries. That is neither here nor there.
MbS is walking a fine line in this regard. It is honor and shame. He will dishonor and shame selected member of the elite class.
It is actually a popular thing to do, and it may be his best move to date. Ordinary Saudis are sick of these people whom they regard as thieves. They have had it up to the gills also with the excessive public religious tyranny.
The king-in-waiting will turn these guys upside down and beat them until the shekels fall out of their pockets, but I do not think he will kill them. Too many of them are kin to him.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
randge posted on 2017-11-23 10:24:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: randge (#4)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
ghostdogtxn posted on 2017-11-23 11:07:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: randge (#4) (Edited)
Chirstians have been killing each other for centuries

en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/European_wars_of_religion
The European wars of religion were a series of religious wars waged in Central, Western and Northern Europe from 1524 to 1648 following the onset of the Protestant Reformation in Europe. The conflicts ended with the Peace of Westphalia recognizing three separate Christian traditions in the Holy Roman Empire: Roman Catholicism, Lutheranism, and Calvinism, otherwise known as the Reformed tradition.
The wars were strongly influenced by the religious change of the period and the conflict and rivalry that it produced. Nevertheless, the combatants cannot be neatly categorised by religion, nor were they divided by religion alone, and in most cases religion was only a part of the causes of the wars.
Indeed the European Wars over religion were not so neatly categorized as you may think. There was much persecution also. That is the reason the Puritans came to the New World and landed at Plymouth Rock. ;)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puritans
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2017-11-23 11:54:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: BTP Holdings (#6)
Our Christian brothers brought homicide of their fellows up to an industrial level of efficiency.
That said, Islam was born and bred in an environment of warfare and assassinations as distinct from Christianity which had decidedly pacific beginnings.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
randge posted on 2017-11-23 12:06:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: sneakypete (#1)
Hang them by their necks and you have no more trouble with them.

He doesn't want them dead. He wants their money.

Ada posted on 2017-11-23 12:29:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: randge (#7)
Our Christian brothers brought homicide of their fellows up to an industrial level of efficiency.

I'm not sure I believe the story, What might be sure is that MbS is using US mercenaries to guard and torture. He wouldn't trust any Saudis to do it.

Ada posted on 2017-11-23 13:00:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: randge (#2)
He'll shame his adversaries, but he won't kill them.

I have never read or heard of a case in all of recorded history where that worked out good for the guy doing the shaming.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
sneakypete posted on 2017-11-23 13:49:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: randge (#7)
Our Christian brothers brought homicide of their fellows up to an industrial level of efficiency.

WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!
WE'RE NUMBER 1!

WE'RE NUMBER 1!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
sneakypete posted on 2017-11-23 13:51:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Ada (#8)
He doesn't want them dead. He wants their money.

Where do you think their money and possessions are going to go when they diee?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
sneakypete posted on 2017-11-23 13:53:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: sneakypete (#10)
You may well be right.
This'll be an interesting case study in Machiavellian power politics. I don't think it will take long to see how this turns out.
If they string him up upside down for the buzzards a year from now, you can send me a "toldjaso" memo.
Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison
randge posted on 2017-11-23 17:14:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: sneakypete (#12)
Where do you think their money and possessions are going to go when they diee?

Unless MSB knows the Swiss bank account numbers, they will stay in those banks awaiting those who know the numbers. If he could access the accounts now, there would be no need to bother the family.

Ada posted on 2017-11-23 17:22:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Ada (#0)
Our Glories Allies Everyone. Them and and the Gems.
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Suspect all media / resist bad propaganda/Learn NLP everyday everyway ;) If you don't control your mind someone else will.
titorite posted on 2017-11-23 19:09:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: Ada (#14)
Unless MSB knows the Swiss bank account numbers, they will stay in those banks awaiting those who know the numbers.

Yeah,the Swiss may talk a lot of crap,but when a King that probably controls 100 BILLION dollars or more in deposit at their banks tells them he,as the sovereign of Saudi Arabia has decided they stole the money from the monarchy and that if they do not allow him access to the books and those accounts he is going to pull ALL his money out and bar other Sauds from doing business with them,the books will appear and open themselves like magic.
Switzerland has competition now. No way in hell are they going to risk losing all that deposit money to avoid offending a few guys that will soon be executed or penniless.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
sneakypete posted on 2017-11-23 20:54:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Ada (#0)
retaliation for Las Vegas assassination attempt?
UPDATE: Las Vegas – Saudi Assassination Attempt and More

Nov 10, 2017 | ADN News | 0  |     

The tangled web surrounding the Las Vegas massacre and the upheaval in Saudi Arabia have a common thread that just got yanked.
Below is the continuation into the connection on both sides of our globe following the money, the oil and the blood trail.
Saudi Arabia’s King to ‘stand down and hand power to son after purging’ rivals
KING Salman is reportedly preparing to make his son Prince Mohammed bin Salman the ruler of Saudi Arabia in a shock move following a corruption purge, reports claim. – Express.co .....
In the course of just a few hours, untold billions of dollars effectively landed in Mohammed Bin Salman’s lap, which can be seen as either the world’s largest-ever robbery or its most renegade act of populism, but regardless of the interpretation, the presumed billions that the Crown Prince will likely end up seizing for his government will probably be reinvested in the country through Vision 2030 projects.
Now lets return to Las Vegas and see how this may have started… Continuing ADN article on this series: Was Las Vegas a Saudi Crown Prince Salman Assassination Attempt? we asked the question…
Was Las Vegas a COUP Assassination Attempt Cover UP Gone Wrong?
so lets revisit what we know and look at another interesting hole in the cover story.
On Oct 1st,the largest modern massacre on American soil happened on the strip at a country music festival. But new evidence and educated hypothesis are leading us away from the lone wolf gunman theory and into the realm of foreign political figures and the struggle for power and wealth spilling the blood of American citizens. That fateful night, hundreds of innocents were caught in what is believed to be a crossfire between warring factions of Saudi Arabian struggles for control of that countries highest appointment.

The below topic has been a point of contention among those providing the cover story and those seeking the truth. With the help of superb investigators like Jo Anne Moretti, Ann Rose Laurence and countless others, the picture is becoming clear that this is much much more than We the People have been told.
Las Vegas flight records reveal well-planned air assault and elaborate getaway extraction all possible
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Could the Las Vegas massacre have been an covert air assault operation as the videos, flight records and questionable transponder data shows?..."
http://americandigitalnews.com/index.php/2017/11/10/4706-update-las-vegas-saudi- assassination-attempt/

Article goes on to talk about the muzzle flashes coming from the helicopters that went dark at Mandalay Bay and image of a man looking very much like the Crown Prince being escorted out of [?} Mandalay Bay by armed guards. There are videos of this on youtube.
It seems there may be more than a false flag/drill gone awry at Las Vegas. I wonder what "Vision 2030" is and whether it is connected to Agenda 2030....first time I heard of it.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2017-11-24 8:22:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: Ada (#0)
DailyMail.com can disclose that the arrests have been followed by 'interrogations' which a source said were being carried out by 'American mercenaries' brought in to work for the 32-year-old crown prince, who is now the kingdom's most powerful figure.
'They are beating them, torturing them, slapping them, insulting them. They want to break them down,' the source told DailyMail.com.
'Blackwater' has been named by DailyMail.com's source as the firm involved, and the claim of its presence in Saudi Arabia has also been made on Arabic social media, and by Lebanon's president.
The firm's successor, Academi, strongly denies even being in Saudi Arabia and says it does not engage in torture, which it is illegal for any U.S. citizen to commit anywhere in the world.

“The homeland will not exist unless corruption is uprooted and the corrupt are held accountable.” the royal decree stated.
The news comes after the US promised to aid Saudi Arabia in neutralising “Iran’s destabilising influence” and battle extremism in the Middle East, the Pentagon has announced.

The President tweeted: “I have great confidence in King Salman and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, they know exactly what they are doing some of those they are harshly treating have been ‘milking’ their country for years."
http://americandigitalnews.com/index.php/2017/11/10/4706-update-las-vegas-saudi- assassination-attempt/
what part does Mossad play in this I wonder....problem reaction solution?
Saudi Royals are Jewish.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2017-11-24 8:35:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Ada (#18)

“The homeland will not exist unless corruption is uprooted and the corrupt are held accountable.” the royal decree stated.
The news comes after the US promised to aid Saudi Arabia in neutralising “Iran’s destabilising influence” and battle extremism in the Middle East, the Pentagon has announced.

The President tweeted: “I have great confidence in King Salman and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, they know exactly what they are doing some of those they are harshly treating have been ‘milking’ their country for years."

and how does this play into all this intrigue:
"...Saudi Arabia, however, refuses to participate. It won’t sell its oil in anything but US dollars because that would break its longstanding petrodollar agreement with the US.
When China, Russia, and others trade oil for yuan, it’s a significant blow to the petrodollar. But if Saudi Arabia switched to yuan, it would take out the petrodollar… and cause an immediate financial panic in the US.
The truth is selling oil for yuan would cost Saudi Arabia a whole lot.
It would immediately lose American diplomatic and military protection. Then the media and think tanks would quickly start pounding the table for the US military to force democracy on Riyadh.
Last year Trump said, “If Saudi Arabia was without the cloak of American protection, I don’t think it would be around.”
He’s absolutely correct.
Of course, the Saudis know all of this. So they’ve been on a short leash… until recently.
In a surprise move, Saudi King Salman recently became the first sitting Saudi monarch to ever visit Russia.
Until recently, the visit would have been unthinkable. Saudi Arabia has been one of the US’ closest allies since the petrodollar system started in the 1970s.
Meanwhile, Russia and Saudi Arabia have been enemies for decades. Most recently, the Saudis and Russians have been on opposite sides of the Syrian Civil War.
That’s why King Salman’s historic visit to Moscow is so remarkable. The Saudis are clearly hedging their bets against the US and the petrodollar system.
Saudi Arabia is now drifting closer to Russia.
The Saudis have committed to invest up to $10 billion in various Russian sectors. But, even more significantly, they’ve agreed to buy the S-400 missile system, Russia’s top line air defense system, as part of a $3 billion weapons purchase.
This deal signals a geopolitical earthquake. The Saudis have never bought Russian military equipment before.
Ever since the birth of the petrodollar, the Saudis have depended on American military protection. After all, it’s what they get in return for pricing their oil in dollars.
The S-400 system deal suggests the Saudis are hedging their bets. First, they’re not buying an American system. Second, they’re buying a Russian system that’s capable of deterring an American attack
Saudi Arabia is making significant moves to give itself alternatives to American protection...."

your post: The Cardinal Sin of International Finance
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=211580
it's over my pea-brained head.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2017-11-24 9:01:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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