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Title: Government shuts down after Senate bill collapses, negotiations fail
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URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli ... ail/ar-AAuTlMT?ocid=spartanntp
Published: Jan 20, 2018
Author: Mike DeBonis, Ed O'Keefe, Erica Werner,
Post Date: 2018-01-20 06:49:11 by BTP Holdings
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Government shuts down after Senate bill collapses, negotiations fail
The Washington Post
Mike DeBonis, Ed O'Keefe, Erica Werner, Elise Viebeck
3 hrs ago
Republicans and Democrats blame each other for government shutdown

Video by NBC News
The federal government shut down for the first time in more than four years Friday after senators rejected a temporary spending patch and bipartisan efforts to find an alternative fell short as a midnight deadline came and went.
Republican and Democratic leaders both said they would continue to talk, raising the possibility of a solution over the weekend. Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney said Friday that the conflict has a “really good chance” of being resolved before government offices open Monday, suggesting that a shutdown’s impacts could be limited.
But the White House drew a hard line immediately after midnight, saying they would not negotiate over a central issue — immigration — until government funding is restored.
“We will not negotiate the status of unlawful immigrants while Democrats hold our lawful citizens hostage over their reckless demands,” White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a statement. “This is the behavior of obstructionist losers, not legislators. When Democrats start paying our armed forces and first responders we will reopen negotiations on immigration reform.” Subscribe to the Post Most newsletter: Today’s most popular stories on The Washington Post
Both parties confronted major political risks with 10 months to go until the midterm elections. Republicans resolved not to submit to the minority party’s demands to negotiate, while Democrats largely unified to use the shutdown deadline to force concessions on numerous issues — including protections for hundreds of thousands of young undocumented immigrants.
The standoff culminated in a late-night Senate vote that failed to clear a 60-vote hurdle, sending congressional leaders and President Trump back to the starting line after days of political posturing on all sides.
“A government shutdown was 100 percent avoidable. Completely avoidable. Now it is imminent,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on the Senate floor following the vote. “Perhaps across the aisle some of our Democratic colleagues are feeling proud of themselves, but what has their filibuster accomplished? . . . The answer is simple: Their very own government shutdown.”
The early contours of the blame game appeared to cut against Trump and the Republicans, who control all levers of government but cannot pass major legislation without at least partial support from Senate Democrats. According to a Washington Post-ABC News poll, Americans said by a 20-point margin that they would blame a shutdown on Trump and the GOP rather than Democrats.
A government shutdown causing employee furloughs has never occurred under unified party control of Congress and the White House. Some furloughs of White House employees began immediately early Saturday.
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#1. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
Nice to give some non-essential slugs a paid vacation.
If they're non-essential, why are they given .gov jobs?
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2018-01-20 8:28:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Lod (#1)
If they're non-essential, why are they given .gov jobs?

I call it a means of social welfare.

Fred Mertz posted on 2018-01-20 9:04:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Fred Mertz, 4 (#2)
then there's this to consider:
(it is satire, i hope)

Americans with No Abilities Act (ANAA)
Politicians in the Senate are considering sweeping legislation that will provide new benefits for many more Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act is being hailed as a major legislative goal by advocates for the millions of Americans who lack any real skills nor ambition. . “Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in society,” said former California Sen. Barbara Boxer. “We can no longer stand by and allow People of Inability (POI) to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation, employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small group of workers, simply because they have some idea of what they are doing.”
In a Capitol Hill press conference, Nancy Pelosi pointed to the success of the U.S. Postal Service, which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without regard to performance. At the state government level, the Department of Motor Vehicles also has an excellent record of hiring Persons with No Ability (73 percent).
Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million mid-level positions will be created, with important-sounding titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory sense of purpose and performance. Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given to guarantee upward mobility for even the most un-remarkable employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to corporations that promote a significant number of Persons of Inability (POI) into middle-management positions, and give a tax credit to small and medium-sized businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every two talented hires.
Finally, the Americans With No Abilities Act contains tough new measures to make it more difficult to discriminate against the non-abled, banning, for example, discriminatory interview questions such as, “Do you have any skills, or experience, that relate to this job?”
“As a non-abled person, I can’t be expected to keep up with people who have something going for them,” said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, Mich., due to her inability to remember “righty tighty, lefty loosey”. “This new law should be real good for people like me. I’ll finally have job security.” With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented citizens will finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.
Said Sen. Dick Durbin, II: “As a senator with no abilities, or common sense, I believe the same privileges that elected officials enjoy ought to be extended to every American with no abilities.
It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every American citizen, regardless of his or her inadequacy, as long as they take up some space in this great nation, a good salary for doing so.”
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2018-01-20 9:22:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: BTP Holdings (#0)
I worked for the feds. We had at least 5 shut downs, less than 20% of the entire government was effected. A real shut down: stop all military action, shut down all military ships, stop all congress and white house staff and pay, then see what happens.

Darkwing posted on 2018-01-20 9:27:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Lod, Fred Mertz (#1)
If they're non-essential, why are they given .gov jobs?

You olde farts always picking on we slugs and drones.
Ponder this...
Remove the head of a rattle snake, the rest of the snake is of no value, causes no harm, totally benign.

Now view congress???? Get the analogy?

Cynicom posted on 2018-01-20 9:39:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: Darkwing (#4) (Edited)
I worked for the feds. We had at least 5 shut downs, less than 20% of the entire government was effected.

I question how much of a true "shutdown" it is. Even 20% might be high. I'd bet most operations that are "shutdown" are still accruing the normal charges to the fed gov, such as telling fed employees not to come to work. They will get paid for this time as usual, but not until the fed debt ceiling is raised. Those charges will go unpaid *until* the budget is settled. $20 trillion in debt. Rand Paul will vote against the measure for that reason alone, and not because of DACA.

Pinguinite posted on 2018-01-20 11:41:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Fred Mertz (#2)
I call it a means of social welfare.

Lots of times when working for Illinois State Highways the crew would be on the road. While at the job site one guy would be working and three guys standing there leaning on shovels. It was not always that way, but more often than not it was just like that. We did have times when we had to bust our moons to get the job done.
In winter you had to work the overtime to keep the roads open plowing and salting. That was our job and there was no one else to do it. One time they call me in 3 hours early for 18 hour shift on weekend. I had to stop and nap a few times toward the end of that one. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2018-01-20 13:43:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Lod (#3)
Americans with No Abilities Act (ANAA)

Good one, Lod!

Fred Mertz posted on 2018-01-20 14:21:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: BTP Holdings, thank you Chuck Schumer, MAGA (#0)

Hopefully Congress will go home since they aren't getting paid, and The Donald's DACA amnesty will never happen.
GO Chuckie!
DACA Shithole Dreamers - Make America Great Again?
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