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Title: George W. Bush touts 'dangers of isolation' as Trump pulls out of Iran deal
Source: MSN News
URL Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl ... eal/ar-AAx5SSo?ocid=spartandhp
Published: May 10, 2018
Author: By Javier De Diego and Alessia Grunberge
Post Date: 2018-05-11 01:11:32 by X-15
Keywords: Bush, Trump
Views: 1191
Comments: 17

Former President George W. Bush returned to Washington on Thursday night and touted a foreign policy view that directly contradicts President Donald Trump's "America First" rhetoric.
Bush's comments came after Trump's decision this week to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, as well as his recent comment that US troops would be leaving Syria "relatively soon" and his continued efforts to build a wall on the southern border to keep immigrants from crossing illegally.
Bush spoke at an awards ceremony hosted by the Atlantic Council, a nonpartisan foreign policy think tank, which was honoring him with a Distinguished International Leadership Award for his work to eradicate HIV/AIDS in Africa. The Presidential Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, which he started while in office and has continued to lead since leaving the White House, is credited with saving millions of lives across the African continent and helping to change the trajectory of the HIV/AIDS crisis around the world.
In explaining the importance of PEPFAR, Bush spoke about what he called "the dangers of isolation."
"America is indispensable for the world. The price of greatness is responsibility. One cannot rise to be in many ways the leading community in the civilized world without being involved in its problems, without being convulsed by its agonies and inspired by its causes," Bush said, invoking a speech by the legendary British Prime Minister Winston Churchill.
"If we are together, nothing is impossible. If we are divided, all will fail," he added, again quoting Churchill.
The former President, who recently lost his mother, former first lady Barbara Bush, thanked the public for its support and prayers. He said, "All is well with her soul. And all is well with ours."
Bush added that his father, former President George H.W. Bush, "misses mom" but his health is good. The 41st president had spent more than a week in the hospital with a blood-related infection after his wife's death.
Poster Comment:
"You never said a fucking word while Obama fucked the nation to a crawl.
How about you shut the fuck up now, you mealy-mouthed drunk......."
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#1. To: X-15 (#0) (Edited)
FUK HIM!
LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Knuckle Draggin E Van Gelical, Zio-Nazi!!!!!!!!!

Ricky posted on 2018-05-11 1:49:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: X-15 (#0)
Why can't he just die? Never was there a more worthless, despicable clod occupying space on the blue planet.
Remember, girlie-man said the low point of his presidency was being called a racist by Kanye West. How much more inane can she get?
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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
NeoconsNailed posted on 2018-05-11 8:43:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: NeoconsNailed (#2)
Gee-Dubya is a dry drunk, he's got nothing to look forward to for the rest of his life, his family is done as far as national politics go. President Trump made damn sure of that when he publicly humiliated JEB Bush during the 2016 primary season.
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2018-05-11 15:00:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: X-15 (#3)
If only they were capable of feeling anything more than a millimeter deep. Supposedly girlie-man 2 was wrecked by the shame and opprobrium that followed him out of office, but it didn't last.
The humiliation and takedown of Jewb -- one of the most exciting moments of 21st- century polyticks. I thank God every day his rotten mama and dada lived to see it.
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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
NeoconsNailed posted on 2018-05-11 15:13:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: X-15 (#3)
his family is done as far as national politics go. President Trump made damn sure of that when he publicly humiliated JEB Bush during the 2016 primary season.

Indeed.
Now he needs to start his campaign for 2020 and force Communist left to salvo the Clintons for good.
Not many unamericans want to go down with the Clinton Titanic one more time.

Cynicom posted on 2018-05-11 15:29:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: X-15 (#0)
Bush spoke at an awards ceremony hosted by the Atlantic Council, a nonpartisan foreign policy think tank,

The Atlantic Council is NATO's "think tank".
Vanity: Russian Conspiracy Theory, CrowdStrike, and the Atlantic Counsel - freerepublic.com, 4/5/2017 | Excerpts:

The key to all of this is the Atlantic Council. The vehemently anti-russian think tank that Dr. Farkas is a senior fellow.
Most people think that the FBI analyzed the DNC servers and came to the conclusion based on their analysis that Russia hacked the DNC. That is not true. The DNC refused to let the FBI look at their servers. Instead the DNC hired a private company, Crowdstrike, to do an analysis of their servers. It was Crowdstrike that concluded that Russia hacked the DNC. They then turned over those findings to the FBI.
If this sounds incredibly shady its because it is. While private companies do such analysis its very odd that in a case where national security is involved that FBI/CIA analysts were not allowed to do their own analysis of the evidence.
So what do we know about Crowdstrike? Well Crowdstrike was founded by Dmitri Alperovitch, a Ukrainian National, who just like Dr. Farkas is a fellow at, you guessed it, Atlantic Council. Crow[d]strike also received major funding for the pro-Obama/Hillary folks at Google.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/06/dnc-russian-hacking-
conclusion-comes-google-linked-firm/
$100 million invested by Google into CrowdStrike:
https://www.crowdstrike.com/resources/crowdstrike-closes-100-million-financing-
round-led-google-capital/
The "17 intelligence agencies" that said Russians hacked the DNC relied solely on a report written by a private company to draw conclusions on the "Russian hacking." Is that reasonable?
So we have one senior fellow at this Atlantic think tank pushing for the administration to get and disseminate everything they can on a Trump/Russia connection and we have this other senior fellow at the Atlantic council Dmitri Alperovitch establishing the case that it was Russia that hacked the DNC.
can a company founded by a vehemently anti-Russian Ukrainian, who is a member of this vehemently anti-Russian think tank, be trusted to do a fair unbiased analysis when there is a question of Russian involvement?
Who else is a member of the Atlantic Council? Susan Rice.
Oh, and who funds the group? George Soros.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-13/george-soros-funded-think-tank-attacks-
disobedient-media-william-craddick-over-eu-co
Atlantic Council website:
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2018-05-12 13:49:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: All (#6)
Atlantic Council website:
http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/

NATO - Atlantic Council
www.atlanticcouncil.org/nato
The United States and NATO must take steps to preserve the unity of the transatlantic alliance in the face of a “complex and dynamic security environment,” said ...
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2018-05-12 14:09:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: GreyLmist (#6)
It is very simple to connect the dots and find out who is behind all of the intrigue we witness on a daily and weekly basis.
But you need to go back to 1933 and the Bankruptcy of the United States in order to find out how badly FDR screwed the common people and turned us all into debtors and debt slaves.
We may end up seeing a mass public hanging when the people rise up and throw out the banksters for their dastardly deeds. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2018-05-12 14:12:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: All (#7)
NATO - Atlantic Council
www.atlanticcouncil.org/nato
The United States and NATO must take steps to preserve the unity of the transatlantic alliance in the face of a “complex and dynamic security environment,” said ...

Cross-referencing:
4um Title: Your guide to top anti-Russia think tanks in US & who funds them

the real boom in the ‘think tank’ industry came with the era of globalization. With a 200-percent rise in numbers since 1970. And in recent years, they’ve become more transnational, with foreign states and individuals sponsoring them in order to gain[/]curry favor in Washington.
One country that largely hasn’t bothered playing this game is Russia. Instead, mostly in the foreign policy and defense sectors, Moscow frequently serves as Enemy Number One for many advocacy groups. Here are some prominent outfits in the think tank racket, which focus on hyping up threats from Russia.
The Atlantic Council
Founded: 1961
What is it? Essentially the academic wing of NATO. The Atlantic Council serves to link people useful to the organization’s agenda across Europe and North America. However, in recent years, its recruitment has increasingly focused on employees who directly attack Russia, especially on social media. Presumably, this is to give them a guaranteed income so they can continue their activities, without needing to worry about paying the bills. Screenshot from atlanticcouncil.org
What does it do? Promotes the idea of Russia being an existential threat to Europe and the US, in order to justify NATO’s reason for being.
Who are its people? The Atlantic Council’s list of lobbyists (sorry, ‘Fellows’!) reads like a telephone directory of the Russia bashing world. For instance, Dmitri Alperovitch (of Crowdstrike, which conveniently alleges how Russia hacked the Democratic National Congress) is joined by the perennially-wrong Anders Aslund, who has predicted Russia’s impending collapse on a number of occasions and has, obviously, been off the mark. Then there’s Joe Biden’s “Russia hand,” Michael Carpenter and their recent co-authored ‘Foreign Affairs’ piece suggests he actually knows very little about the country. Meanwhile, Evelyn Farkas, a fanatical Russophobe who served in Barack Obama’s administration has also found a home here. Another interesting Atlantic Council lobbyist is Eliot Higgins, a “geolocation expert” who has made a career out of spinning tales from the Ukraine and Syrian wars but is, naturally, mostly disinterested in covering Iraq and Yemen, where the US and its allies are involved, but Russia has no particular stake. Lastly, we can’t forget CNN’s Michael Weiss, the self-declared “Russia analyst” who, by all accounts, has never been to Russia and can’t speak Russian.
Who pays for it? The Atlantic Council has quite an eclectic bunch of patrons to serve. NATO itself is a big backer, along with military contractors Saab, Lockheed Martin and the Raytheon Company, all of which naturally benefit from increased tensions with Moscow. The UK Foreign Office also splashes the cash and is joined by the Ukrainian World Congress and the US Department of State. Other sugar daddies include the US military (via separate contributions from the Air Force, Navy, Army and Marine Corps), Northrop Grumman and Boeing.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2018-05-12 14:25:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: BTP Holdings (#8) (Edited)
It is very simple to connect the dots and find out who is behind all of the intrigue we witness on a daily and weekly basis.
But you need to go back to 1933 and the Bankruptcy of the United States in order to find out how badly FDR screwed the common people and turned us all into debtors and debt slaves.

It's not necessary to overcomplicate this issue with all of that connected to a WWI Liberty Bond default here. NATO and the Atlantic Council didn't even exist that far back.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2018-05-12 14:36:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: All (#9) (Edited)
The Atlantic Council
Founded: 1961
What is it? Essentially the academic wing of NATO. The Atlantic Council serves to link people useful to the organization’s agenda across Europe and North America. However, in recent years, its recruitment has increasingly focused on employees who directly attack Russia, especially on social media. Presumably, this is to give them a guaranteed income so they can continue their activities, without needing to worry about paying the bills. Screenshot from atlanticcouncil.org
What does it do? Promotes the idea of Russia being an existential threat to Europe and the US, in order to justify NATO’s reason for being.
Who are its people? The Atlantic Council’s list of lobbyists (sorry, ‘Fellows’!) reads like a telephone directory of the Russia bashing world. For instance, Dmitri Alperovitch (of Crowdstrike, which conveniently alleges how Russia hacked the Democratic National Congress) is joined by the perennially-wrong Anders Aslund, who has predicted Russia’s impending collapse on a number of occasions and has, obviously, been off the mark. Then there’s Joe Biden’s “Russia hand,” Michael Carpenter and their recent co-authored ‘Foreign Affairs’ piece suggests he actually knows very little about the country. Meanwhile, Evelyn Farkas, a fanatical Russophobe who served in Barack Obama’s administration has also found a home here. Another interesting Atlantic Council lobbyist is Eliot Higgins, a “geolocation expert” who has made a career out of spinning tales from the Ukraine and Syrian wars but is, naturally, mostly disinterested in covering Iraq and Yemen, where the US and its allies are involved, but Russia has no particular stake. Lastly, we can’t forget CNN’s Michael Weiss, the self-declared “Russia analyst” who, by all accounts, has never been to Russia and can’t speak Russian.

@ Post #6: Who else is a member of the Atlantic Council? Susan Rice.

Additional 4um Ref. re: Obama admins Susan Rice and Dr. Evelyn Farkas

More Atlantic Council "Fellows": Michael Isikoff, reporter and Irene Chalupa (Ukraine connections). Her sister, Andrea/"Alexandra Chalupa was the person in charge of the Democratic National Committee's 'ethnic outreach' efforts" and repoortedly claimed that her opposition research on Donald Trump was hacked.
[Noting] Spring-Summer 2015: Alleged Russian hackers target DNC consultant Alexandra Chalupa [said to have been conducting opposition research on Donald Trump] and the DNC network. Alexandra Chalupa’s emails are later included in the [2016 alleged] DNC leak.
https://glomardisclosure.com/2016/07/25/timeline- of-the-dnc-and
-akp-hacks-wikileaks-releases/ -- JULY 25, 2016

Russia Hacking the Election the Inside Story - opednews.com, 12/19/2016 [8 Pages]
@ Page 5:

Today the Chalupas, UCCA, CEEC, and the rest of the emigre groups involved with them are trying to overthrow the election and Constitution of the United States. The candidate doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the system of government does. The US system needs a lot of work to make sure this doesn't happen again.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2018-05-12 15:22:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: GreyLmist (#11) (Edited)
There must be some subversive outfit like this for every star in the sky, plotting the overthrow of civilization at US taxpayers' expense. How many are funded by the totally corrupt Fed* or the ill-gotten gains of György Schwartz.
* or FED as it's stupidly written anymore.
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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
NeoconsNailed posted on 2018-05-12 16:02:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: GreyLmist (#10) (Edited)
It's not necessary to overcomplicate this issue with all of that connected to a WWI Liberty Bond default here.

Liberty Bond default? Surely you jest.
Remember the words of FDR, "The United States is bankrupt and insolvent." That is hardly a default on Liberty Bonds.
Since the founding of the Federal Reserve in 1913 during the administration of Woodrow Wilson, the current national debt is $21,050,822,593,901.63.
It is long past time to find a tall tree and a short rope and hang the banksters. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
BTP Holdings posted on 2018-05-12 16:03:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: BTP Holdings (#13)
Simply repudiating the fake debt and eliminating the fed would be best, imo.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
Lod posted on 2018-05-12 17:37:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: GreyLmist (#9)
Saab, Lockheed Martin and the Raytheon Company, all of which naturally benefit from increased tensions with Moscow

Heaven forbid that peace breaks out, somebody might actually have to beat an M1 Abrams tank into an indestructible plowshare.
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2018-05-12 18:20:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: BTP Holdings (#13)
You @ #8: It is very simple to connect the dots and find out who is behind all of the intrigue we witness on a daily and weekly basis. But you need to go back to 1933 and the Bankruptcy of the United States in order to find out how badly FDR screwed the common people and turned us all into debtors and debt slaves.
Me @ #10: It's not necessary to overcomplicate this issue with all of that connected to a WWI Liberty Bond default here. NATO and the Atlantic Council didn't even exist that far back.
You @ #13: Liberty Bond default? Surely you jest. Remember the words of FDR, "The United States is bankrupt and insolvent." That is hardly a default on Liberty Bonds. Since the founding of the Federal Reserve in 1913 during the administration of Woodrow Wilson, the current national debt is $21,050,822,593,901.63.

Nope, not jesting. See 2013 posts #124 and #126 in reply to you @ 4um Title: Response To an E-mail and sender e-mail list. Those are just 2 examples of the numerous times through the years that I have discussed (with you and others) the panorama of issues within the Bankruptcy subject you linked above here. At that article, I think this sentence is most interesting: "The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in gold." So was the Fourth Liberty Bond of massive war debts to be paid in gold around October of 1933 and soon thereafter. That, imo, is why America was taken off the gold standard when it was in June of 1933.

Liberty bond || Default of the Fourth Liberty Bond - Wikipedia, excerpts

A Liberty bond (or liberty loan) was a war bond that was sold in the United States to support the allied cause in World War I.
The first three Liberty bonds, and the Victory Loan, were retired during the course of the 1920s. However, because the terms of the bonds allowed them to be traded for the later bonds which had superior terms, most of the debt from the first, second, and third Liberty bonds was rolled into the fourth issue. As a result, the large majority of Liberty bond debt was still outstanding into the 1930s.
The fourth Liberty Bond had the following terms:
[...]
Callable Starting: October 15, 1933
Maturity Date: October 15, 1938
[...]
The terms of the bond included: "The principal and interest hereof are payable in United States gold coin of the present standard of value." This type of "gold clause" was common in both public and private contracts of the time, and was intended to guarantee that bond-holders would not be harmed by a devaluation of the currency.
However, when the US Treasury called the fourth bond on April 15, 1934, it defaulted on this term by refusing to redeem the bond in gold, and neither did it account for the devaluation of the dollar from $20.67 per troy ounce of gold (the 1918 standard of value) to $35 per ounce. The 21 million bond holders therefore lost 139 million troy ounces of gold, or approximately 41% of the bond's principal. This was the equivalent of $2.866 billion (in 1918 dollars), or approximately $220 billion at the 2012 price of $1600 per ounce. [Continued at the site.]

I have nothing further to add on that debt tangent in this topic.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2018-05-13 6:37:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: GreyLmist (#16)
the devaluation of the dollar from $20.67 per troy ounce of gold (the 1918 standard of value) to $35 per ounce

You will recall that when the people were forced to turn in their gold at $20.67 afterward it was revalued to $35 per ounce. This was a tidy profit for the government.
Many people saw thru the scam and kept their gold. But some had 400 oz bars in safe deposit boxes and when they would show up to get into their boxes there was a Treasury agent waiting for them.
Of course Ft. Knox is empty except for gold that is 90% pure and that came from melting down gold coins that were turned in back in the 30s. All the gold was taken control of by the Federal Reserve and is in the sub basement at 33 Liberty St. in NYC. That is the address for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
No one has ever seen the gold under the bank in Manhattan except certain Fed Bank employees, and if they go in there to change a light bulb there must be 3 armed guards in their presence.
IIRC, there was even a movie made about thieves who were going to steal the gold that is stored there, "Die Hard With A Vengeance". The FED of course, says this is far fetched.
www.foxbusiness.com/featu...s-6200-tons-of- gold-in-a-manhattan-basement-or-does-it
Along with the foreign gold, the Fed's Manhattan vault holds about 5% of America's roughly $11 billion in gold reserves and coin, valued at the statutory rate of $42.22 per fine troy ounce, according to the U.S. Mint. The U.S. government keeps the rest in Denver, Fort Knox, Ky., and West Point, N.Y
If the gold is valued at $42.22 per fine troy ounce, then why is it selling on COMEX at $1,320.60? ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
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