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Title: 4um has a New Sheriff
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Published: Jul 9, 2018
Author: Pinguinite
Post Date: 2018-07-10 00:22:39 by Pinguinite
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Actually the title isn't entirely true because I've technically been the sheriff for a number of months already, since I received the blessing directly from the royal Christine herself! But I'm going to start acting like one a bit more.

I've done this before so I've got the experience. I already expect half of you will disagree with me every time I do something and that's okay. Just know in advance that I'm going to decide things and do what I think is right for purposes that answer to my own inclinations and that I'll make no effort beyond which my own curiosity compels me to to listen to contrary opinions.

That said, no more "nigger" references on 4um. Does it offend me? No, but I'm not black so maybe it wouldn't. Does it offend others? Of course. Should it? In my opinion, probably not as much as it does. American culture has certainly demonized the term to a fanatical level, even more so than "shit" and "fuck" to the point where they usually bleep it not with a single asterisk, but four! Would it be better for both blacks and whites if the term wasn't treated with such strong negative reverence? I think so, yes. Is it my job, or the purpose of 4um, to correct American culture on this point? No, it isn't.

Here's the deal: As I'm in charge, I'm semi-responsible for content here. I'm also considering xferring 4um to my own server. As such, its content has the potential to reflect upon me personally. In fact, once it did. I am a software development freelancer and I was showing 4um to a potential client who wanted some web work. At one point, after 30-45 mins of positive discussion, shortly after I referred him to 4um, he suddenly cut off the phone conversation with no explanation and never called me back. My #1 guess is he saw something racial here and was offended and wrongly decided that what he saw was endorsed by me, even though I was only trying to show the technical capabilities of the site. So... someone writing something racial here really did hurt my livelihood. It hurt me personally, in the wallet.

On top of that, such references will discourage most new people from signing up here as most people are decent people, for the most part. And having more people sign up is a good thing, generally. And I won't expect everyone to have a perfect outlook on life to sign up. I don't want someone *overly* offended by the "nigger" word to be dissuaded from joining. The term won't attract new people, it will only push most people away, so I don't want it here. Period, end of story.

I'll make up new rules, and change them, sometimes quite unfairly and without rhyme or reason as we play the game, and I'll do so completely without apology. Thanks and enjoy your day.

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#15. To: NeoconsNailed (#5)

The surge in activity since July 4 is phenomenal, despite or because of people's total frankness (and priceless humor) on the big hot-button issues.

You are just getting wood at the thought of attracting enough Nazi's here that you can all play dress-up and have a parade.

Nazism is a disease,and Nazi's are germs.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-10   9:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#9)

I rarely participate on here anymore. I occasionally will use profanity. I do not use racial slurs. I do not think they enhance any dialogue. Hearing about the Jews is also kind of starting to wear a little thin with me.

Same here. ESPECIALLY when those loons claim they are different than the Soviets in any important way.

I will eventually get fed up with outraged screams about "De Jews iz coming Boss,de Jews!",and quit posting or even lurking here again until I get bored and come back to see if the loons are still here,or if it is a place not to be confused with a Nazi Fantasy Island.

And I'm not even Jewish,or have any particular love for Jews as a people. I just don't hate them as a people,and have had good friends that were Jewish.

I have also had good friends that were black,Asian,Mexican,and any other group of humanity you want to mention except for Eskimo. That doesn't mean I love everybody because I don't. It just means I don't hate everybody.

I DO hate totalitarian governments that enslave and brutalize their people who dream of being able to brutalize and enslave the whole world,though.

And my considerations for those fools that idolize those politics doesn't even rise to the level of contempt.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2018-07-10   9:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#15)

Oh, god.

It's the other "n-word."

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison

randge  posted on  2018-07-10   9:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Obnoxicated, Lod, All (#12)

Should make for an interesting debate when he goes after the J-word, though. I'll stick around for that. :p

Obs...

"""Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient" as determined by government authorities.

Governments and private organizations may engage in censorship. Other groups or institutions may propose and petition for censorship. When an individual such as an author or other creator engages in censorship of their own works or speech, it is referred to as self-censorship.

Censorship could be direct or indirect, in which case it is referred to as soft censorship. It occurs in a variety of different media, including speech, books, music, films, and other arts, the press, radio, television,.... and the Internet for a variety of claimed reasons..... including national security, to control obscenity, child pornography, and hate speech, to protect children or other vulnerable groups, to promote or restrict political or religious views, and to prevent slander and libel.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   9:51:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Lod (#14)

The Spanish word for the color black:

"Negro" or "negra" depending on whether the noun is considered feminine or masculine (which Spanish does with all nouns).

There's a fairly popular restaurant chain here called "Menestra del Negro" or "black beans". They have a monkey as it's mascot.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   9:51:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Pinguinite (#19)

Es verdad.

A monkey logo? Is that a bone in its hair?

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   10:11:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Pinguinite (#0)

That said, no more "nigger" references on 4um. Does it offend me? No, but I'm not black so maybe it wouldn't. Does it offend others? Of course. Should it? In my opinion, probably not as much as it does. American culture has certainly demonized the term to a fanatical level, even more so than "shit" and "fuck" to the point where they usually bleep it not with a single asterisk, but four! Would it be better for both blacks and whites if the term wasn't treated with such strong negative reverence? I think so, yes. Is it my job, or the purpose of 4um, to correct American culture on this point? No, it isn't.

I'm reporting you for using those offensive words...

LOL!


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2018-07-10   11:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod (#14)

There are 3 races which are anatomically different.

1) Caucasian
2) Negro
3) Mongoloid

The bone structure and skulls are physically different, it's not just a matter of skin color.


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2018-07-10   11:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Pinguinite (#19)

As far as the origin of the "N" word, I think it's because many of the slaves were from the African country named Niger, so they were called that because they came from there.

In fact, some black people use that as their first name. I remember seeing an interview on CNN I think where a person by that name was being asked a question, and the interviewer mispronounced his name by pronouncing it as if it had two g's..

LOL


"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination

FormerLurker  posted on  2018-07-10   11:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Cynicom, Pinguinite (#18)

I like your cyclopaedia style definitions, but they don't cancel out the fact that banning the n-word on this forum is very much a tardy read guard action - a well meaning but vain attempt to make this a more tasteful or marketable internet outlet.

I gotta say that while there have been long stretches of civil discussion on and off, it's been very screechy here for a real long time. Like for the last dozen years. But given the current climate, the back and forth is likely to become even more strident. So lots of luck.

It ain't just the rhetoric. Here and elsewhere, it's going to get more ugly rather than less as the situation on the ground gets more and more physical.

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison

randge  posted on  2018-07-10   12:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: randge (#17)

It's the other "n-word."

But unlikely to be banned :-)

Ada  posted on  2018-07-10   12:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ada, Pinguinite (#25)

Oh no make no mistake.

Neil needs to be even handed or drop this altogether.

The game is on or this site might as well just finally die.

In fact, I'll just say it.

Neil, you just took the Freedom out of 4um, as much I detest certain language such as your first salvo at censorship.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2018-07-10   12:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Rotara (#26) (Edited)

Call me Nate Higgers….

:)

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2018-07-10   13:26:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: X-15 (#27)

My 2nd ex-wife is black and our daughter is 'mulatta'.

My wife now is also black.

You and a warm bucket of goat urine aren't worth a hair on the head of a black, brown or mixed person that is precious to me. 😬😜😎✌🏻


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2018-07-10   13:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: randge (#24)

It ain't just the rhetoric. Here and elsewhere, it's going to get more ugly rather than less as the situation on the ground gets more and more physical.

The faggots/illegal mestizos/communists, already foaming at their mouths, scream obscenities 24/7/365 about White people/Christians/et al but the mere mention of the word "nigger" is going to push them over the edge??

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2018-07-10   13:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#15)

"Stormers." SPLC boogymen.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2018-07-10   13:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Pinguinite (#0)

Yellow Bullet has LOTS of commercial sponsors and the sub-forums "Trash or Be Trashed" and "The Political Corner" are uncensored. Just an FYI, and it's a very public hotrod forum.

www.yellowbullet.com/forum/inde x.php

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2018-07-10   13:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#18)

Whelp, it's Neil's forum, so I'll respect his rules. It's his sandbox. I'm just an amused observer.

Obnoxicated  posted on  2018-07-10   13:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: randge, All (#24)

banning the n-word on this forum is very much a tardy read guard action - a well meaning but vain attempt to make this a more tasteful or marketable internet outlet.

As part kike, I could take great offense at the writings of more than a few denizens here.

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   13:52:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#33)

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Nicely said.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   15:12:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#33)

Going down the road of censorship, because of good intentions and political correctness, has brought about the current social fabric of this country.

Even more disconcerting, to say the least, is that there was a Dollar Bill involved.


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2018-07-10   15:23:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rotara (#35) (Edited)

Even more disconcerting, to say the least, is that there was a Dollar Bill involved.

Yup, that's where it starts. 30 pieces of silver.

And how we've arrived at this point.

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws.

Ricky  posted on  2018-07-10   16:01:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Lod (#20)

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#33)

I also find no problem of reading about, WHITEY HONKY REDNECK CRACKER, RUBE AND HILL BILLY, all of which apply.

Yes sir, I have borne some of thse words and borne them with some patience because, considering the source, it's almost impossible to insult me. Those as must resort to epithet aren't worth my time.

Now if a man shows that he will hurt me, I will be the first to deliver. That is a different piece of business entirely.

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison

randge  posted on  2018-07-10   16:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: FormerLurker (#21)

I'm reporting you for using those offensive words...

LOL!

I shall sanction myself..... later.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#22)

The bone structure and skulls are physically different, it's not just a matter of skin color.

I'm not sure if I ever fell for the idea that racial differences between white and black was only in regards to hair and skin color. It defies logic to suggest that is the only notable DNA difference. In the US, I'm average height & weight for a guy. Here, I'm the probably equivalent of 6'2" among the natives, and among the indigenous, I'm closer to 6'8".

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:26:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#23)

As far as the origin of the "N" word, I think it's because many of the slaves were from the African country named Niger, so they were called that because they came from there.

Perhaps the world maps should be revised to spell the country "N***r". LOL.

Perhaps you are right. Or perhaps the country was named by Spaniards or Portuguese for the color to reflect the people they found.

No idea. It seems likely the term and the country name are related somehow. I do find tidbits of language history interesting.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Pinguinite (#37)

Great! that showed the nice bone/fork in their logo.

Guessing that the food is wonderful there.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   16:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: randge (#24)

I like your cyclopaedia style definitions, but they don't cancel out the fact that banning the n-word on this forum is very much a tardy read guard action - a well meaning but vain attempt to make this a more tasteful or marketable internet outlet.

I think it will make it more tasteful for the vast majority of visitors. As I see it, it's not what you or I think of the term, it's what the average American thinks of it. And the average American considers this happenstance arrangement of 6 letters, all of which, believe it or not, can be found in probably every chapter of the Bible, repugnant.

It ain't just the rhetoric. Here and elsewhere, it's going to get more ugly rather than less as the situation on the ground gets more and more physical.

I am all for people becoming more mature about who and what we are. Political Correctness have been around for what, 15 years or more now. Regretably, it didn't fad into oblivion like so many other fads.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Pinguinite, FL, truth seekers, 4 (#41)

from algore's interweb

Niger River, principal river of western Africa. With a length of 2,600 miles (4,200 km), it is the third longest river in Africa, after the Nile and the Congo. The Niger is believed to have been named by the Greeks.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I had no clue the Greeks made it to Africa.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   16:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Lod (#42)

Guessing that the food is wonderful there.

I stop in there on rare occasion. For a fast food chain it's half decent.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:37:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Lod (#44)

I had no clue the Greeks made it to Africa.

That far? No I didn't either. They did make it to Alexandria, Egypt, I believe, named for Alexander the Great.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Rotara (#26)

Neil, you just took the Freedom out of 4um, as much I detest certain language such as your first salvo at censorship.

Thanks for the opinion. I would compare it to cleaning up the house a bit before inviting guests over. Sure you could leave your dirty underwear in the kitchen, but if you do, people will see that and just get the wrong impression.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Pinguinite (#46)

They did make it to Alexandria, Egypt, I believe, named for Alexander the Great.

Oops, that one fell outta my memory bank. Good catch.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-10   16:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: hondo68 (#3)

Nazis and students burn books on a huge bonfire of 'anti-German' literature in the Opernplatz, Berlin, in 1933.

Do you know which books were being burned by the Nazis? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-07-10   16:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: X-15 (#29)

but the mere mention of the word "nigger" is going to push them over the edge??

But it DOES. That's the amazing thing.

Pinguinite  posted on  2018-07-10   16:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ricky (#36)

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes the laws.

Censorship over hurtful words is debatable – but speech censorship over a buck is wrong.

johnj  posted on  2018-07-10   16:56:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: X-15, All (#29)

The faggots/illegal mestizos/communists, already foaming at their mouths, scream obscenities 24/7/365 about White people/Christians/et al but the mere mention of the word "nigger" is going to push them over the edge??

Your point of attention seems to have been lost on some present.

It is indeed Pings sandbox. When one person decides to...censor... ONLY SELECTED WORDS OR TERMS... then freedom of speech is gone.

Decision is his, censor ALL hurtful or offensive words or get out of the censoring business.

I and another part Kike were thrown out of Robbersons den for protesting his censoring people for anti-semetic remarks.

At 86 its time I moved on as I am too olde to bow to censorship and political correctness.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   17:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom, Pinguinite, 4um (#52)

Well, this half Irish-Scottish Redneck - half German Jew; full-on Child of God by grace through faith in Jesus Christ... married to a Negra with a mulatta child... remembers all too well how the agenda at Freeperville turned that place into a Zionist censorship crap-hole of what I consider a den of Zionist World Order bloodthirsty statists.

I stopped posting at faceberg and all of their subsidiaries as well because they simply promote statism and of the Zionist World Empire flavor.

That's the next stop on this slope; the offended will be coming out of the wordwork and freedom of speech will simply stop to exist here as it did on ALL the other stops along the way.

I am heading back to part-part-time lurker mode myself.

It was good chatting with yall one last time. If anyone wants to stay in touch you can raise me at PanamaKent.com and/or my newest online home on Steemit @panamakent

God's speed to all of you. Each, and every, one of you. 🙏🏽🌎❤️✌🏻


"Define yourself as one beloved by God. This is the true self. Every other identity is illusion."—Brennan Manning

Rotara  posted on  2018-07-10   17:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Rotara, All (#53)

It was good chatting with yall one last time.

Good time for me to shuffle off also.

Hope you and rest of my friends have a fair sailing wind the rest of your days.

Cynicom  posted on  2018-07-10   18:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Pinguinite (#46)

I had no clue the Greeks made it to Africa.

That far? No I didn't either. They did make it to Alexandria, Egypt, I believe, named for Alexander the Great.

For sure. Egypt was just a stone's throw over the Mediterranean. The Greek learned the idea of the Pythagorean principle from the Egyptians. The story of Atlantis was passed on by Solon who learned it from Egyptian priests. Herodotus wrote extensively on the culture and history of Egypt.

The English name of the place comes from Greek: "Aigyptos." (Hwt- ka-Ptah (ḥwt-ka-ptḥ), meaning "home of the ka (soul) of Ptah", the name of a temple to the god Ptah at Memphis. - Arabisch.nu) The Egyptian called their land "Kemit."

The last dynasty of Ancient Egypt was Greek as was the last pharaoh, Cleopatra.

So yeah, these folks were well acquainted with one another, but the average Greek didn't vacation at Giza way back when.

Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded. - James Madison

randge  posted on  2018-07-10   18:17:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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