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Title: Who makes the most reliable cars? Budget-friendly makers are more dependable than technology-packed expensive brands
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URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/ca ... ke-reliable-cars-revealed.html
Published: Jul 17, 2018
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Post Date: 2018-07-17 11:59:46 by Horse
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The J.D. Power reliability study is based on 13,500 UK cars

The ranking is ordered by the number of problems per 100 cars from each brand

The top 13 rated manufacturers were all volume-selling car makers

Mercedes was the best premium brand - find out which of its rivals came bottom

A new survey of 13,500 drivers has found that expensive cars are more likely to suffer problems than those with affordable price tags.

According to the latest J.D. Power reliability study, emerging and new technologies found in premium vehicles are resulting in more owner-reported issues.

As a result, the table of the most dependable car manufacturers has a surprise winner. And the data can also tell you which models might be best for you based on your vehicle needs.

Affordable and dependable: A new car reliability survey - based on feedback from 13,500 owners - found that models built by premium brands are not as robust as those made by volume manufacturers. Hyundai came out on top in the report Video playing bottom right...

J.D. Power ranks reliability by the number of problems experienced per 100 vehicles - which it displays as a PP100 ranking. A lower score reflects higher quality.

Surprisingly, the study found that the top 13 most dependable car makers in the UK are all volume brands.

Hyundai - whose cheapest model is the £9,905 i10 city car - ranked the highest overall with a score of 78 PP100.

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Suzuki came in second place with 87 PP100, followed by Kia with 94 PP100.

The success of the both Hyundai and Kia both reflects the nation's recent demand for Korean-made motors.

Just last week, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders revealed that Britons officially buy more South Korean cars than any other European country.

More than 190,000 Korean models were sold in the UK in 2017 - more than any other EU nation - as UK motorists snap up cars mainly from Kia and Hyundai as well as SsangYong.

Of the premium-level car makers, Mercedes-Benz (124 PP100) was the highest-ranking brand, achieving a rating of 124 PP100 - only good enough for 14th overall in the manufacturer list.

Jaguar ranked in 16th spot with a PP100 of 137, followed by Volvo with 138, Land Rover with 169 and BMW coming bottom overall with a distant score of 192 PP100. Hyundai topped the J.D. Power reliability rankings, while BMW propped the table +4

Hyundai topped the J.D. Power reliability rankings, while BMW propped the table

Josh Halliburton, head of European Operations at J.D. Power said the main reason for the generally low ranking of premium brands was linked to the high-tech gadgetry they have that can sometimes malfunction and cause headaches for owners. J.D. Power - how it works

The survey is now in its fourth year and measures problems experienced by owners during the past 12 months.

It only reports on UK vehicles that are 12 to 36 months old.

The study examines 177 problem symptoms across eight categories.

These are:

Vehicle exterior

Driving experience

Features/controls/displays

Audio/communication/entertainment/navigation

Seats

Heating, ventilation and air conditioning

Vehicle interior

Engine and transmission.

'Automotive systems are more complex than they’ve ever been and premium brands especially are incorporating autonomous driving building blocks - adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, automatic braking - into their models,' he said.

'It’s imperative for manufacturers to address this issue in order to improve the level of consumer trust in the technology.'

The data showed that phone-pairing bugbears and voice recognition system failures were among the six most common problems reported by owners.

What will be more concerning to all drivers, though, is the frequency of engine and transmission problems - which can be expensive - reported in fairly new vehicles.

The report said there were fewer cases of these than in previous years, though a worrying amount of factory-fresh motors are suffering these issues.

Among owners who experienced no problems with their vehicle, just over half (54 per cent) said they 'definitely will' purchase or lease the same brand again.

Among those who experienced one of the top 10 highest-severity problems, only 37 per cent would replace their car with a model built by the same manufacturer. Most reliable cars by category

The study reveals which models are most robust across seven different categories

The Skoda Octavia was named the most dependable compact car in the survey

If you are in the market for a new - or nearly-new - car, then the survey will help you decided which one might cost you the least to run.

The report lists the most dependable in each of seven categories, from city runarounds to bruising SUVs.

Skoda fared well in the groups, with two models - the Octavia hatchback and now discontinued Yeti SUV, receiving segment awards.

The Hyundai i10, Volkswagen Tiguan, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Vauxhall Insignia and Peugeot 208 also topped their classes.


Poster Comment:

Ford is the only US company on the list. It scored poorly.(2 images)

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#1. To: Horse (#0)

Last spring we got a 2014 Hyundai Equus; quite a nice ride for Mrs. L.

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Lod  posted on  2018-07-17   12:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse (#0)

Some of those brands aren't available in the US.

Ada  posted on  2018-07-17   12:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#0)

You could not give me a Mercedes-Benz/Audi/etc. Once they leave their warranty they're basically worthless due to unaffordable repairs.

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X-15  posted on  2018-07-17   13:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: X-15 (#3)

Once they leave their warranty they're basically worthless due to unaffordable repairs.

Back in '76, friends bought a new SL450 (it was a beauty) for 16.5K. No problem. But later on they ditched it due to the unholy shop cost(s) of maintaining it properly at the dealership.

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Lod  posted on  2018-07-17   15:03:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod (#4) (Edited)

But later on they ditched it due to the unholy shop cost(s) of maintaining it properly at the dealership.

Yep. Even an independent mechanic who is a former dealership mechanic scalps you when parts/motors behind the dash go kaput :p

The exception seems to be the early to mid-70's Mercedes-Benz diesel sedans (300 series?), they have a cult following and seem to be unusually reliable for an MB. Plus, there are internet forums dedicated to those particular models.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
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X-15  posted on  2018-07-17   23:32:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#4)

Timing belt, water pump, thermostat repair on Audi, holy shit!!

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
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X-15  posted on  2018-07-17   23:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse, HAPPY2BME-4UM, All (#0)

Very interesting. I feel even better about only driving pre-2002 Nissan Altimas for about the last 15 years. Have been told they were every bit as good as Toyota or Honda mechanically, but had no idea they were better than those legends!? Been looking to move to one of them because my mechanic says not to drive an Altima longer than 100k miles, mebbe I shouldn't. Of course my mechanic friends will give you specific years or periods of any model that were no-nos.

If your info is true, it demolishes the idea of Mercedes being the cheapest car to drive "because the repairs, while expensive, keep each car going forever." Urban legend #67,890.

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NeoconsNailed  posted on  2018-07-18   1:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: NeoconsNailed (#7)

Been looking to move to one of them because my mechanic says not to drive an Altima longer than 100k miles,

Nonsense - my 2000 Nissan Frontier shares the same 4-cylinder engine with the Altima: 318,000+ miles and I'm still getting 26+ miles per gallon.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
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X-15  posted on  2018-07-18   3:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15 (#8)

Don't know why I can't -- mebbe it's time to stop buying them used, but do the new products have the quality?....

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NeoconsNailed  posted on  2018-07-18   4:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: X-15, NeoconsNailed (#8) (Edited)

Been looking to move to one of them because my mechanic says not to drive an Altima longer than 100k miles,

Nonsense - my 2000 Nissan Frontier shares the same 4-cylinder engine with the Altima: 318,000+ miles and I'm still getting 26+ miles per gallon.

We must wonder if the mechanic works for the car dealership.

Of course diesels can get as much as 1,000,000 miles on an engine. But the clearances and tolerances in the engine are much smaller than gasoline engines. ;)

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BTP Holdings  posted on  2018-07-18   4:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings, HAPPY2BME-4UM (#10)

No, the mechanics are known to be honest and know I only buy old stuff. Each of these cars gets to the pt of needed constant trips to the doctor as the big number is approaching.

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USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um

NeoconsNailed  posted on  2018-07-18   9:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: NeoconsNailed (#9) (Edited)

Nothing wrong with any Altima - 4-cylinder or 6-cylinder. What is required is to read the owners manual and pay particular attention to the maintenance section.

1. Change spark plugs before the recommended 100,000 miles that the manual calls for. In my experience 75,000 is the outer limits, you'll know because your gas mileage falls off. Pull one plug and see how far the electrode has wore down and use a feeler gauge to check the gap. Spark plugs are cheap, replace them. Change the spark plug wires if they've got over 100,000 miles on them. Buy the recommended NGK spark plugs and NGK spark plug wires for your particular engine.

2. Change the oil and filter religiously. I've used Mobil 1 oil and a Mobil 1 oil filter. It costs a little more, but changing the oil/filter is easier than changing the engine. Use the Mobil 1 High Mileage oil if you've got over 50,000 miles on your car. Walmart usually has the best price on Mobil oil.

3. Service the transmission. Most people neglect that.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

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X-15  posted on  2018-07-18   9:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: X-15 (#12)

My car guy keeps up with all that. Did a transmission flush once.

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NeoconsNailed  posted on  2018-07-18   9:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: X-15 (#6)

Yep, when they moved to timing belts, instead of chains, we should consider replacement around 60K miles or so. Some belts will last longer, but changing the belt and water pump is cheaper than trashing the engine.

And there's no way that most of us can do these repairs ourselves these days. I know that I can't.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-18   9:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Lod (#14) (Edited)

My 4-cylinder has a chain. The 3.5 V-6's have a chain. The tensioner might wear out over time, mine hasn't. The vehicle engine to really watch out for is the Ford Triton 5.4 V-8, there's a reason they don't make it any more.....

Nissan engines with a timing chain: www.chestertonnissan.com/blog/nissan-pathfinder-timing-belt- timing-chain/

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
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X-15  posted on  2018-07-18   9:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Lod (#14)

My Yaris doesn't need any timing belt/chain maintenance. I looked in the book forever and online just to be sure. Weird but nice.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2018-07-18   9:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Fred Mertz, X-15, 4 (#16)

Some days I think that leasing a vehicle might be way to go, except that I'd hate the monthly stabs. So I continue to do the recommended maintenance items and cross my fingers.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2018-07-18   12:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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