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Title: Zbigniew Brzezinski on Iraq Chess Piece: We're Done Here. Next?
Source: ARG's GNN blog
URL Source: http://valis.gnn.tv/B13801
Published: Mar 18, 2006
Author: valis
Post Date: 2006-03-18 08:03:58 by valis
Keywords: Brzezinski, Zbigniew, Piece:
Views: 1597
Comments: 22

FLASHBACK: Zbigniew Brzezinski in late 70’s, telling Afghans :
” Your cause is right. God is on your side. ”

Zbigniew Brzezinski, the guy who, in hindsight, would fund & train al-Qaeda all over again, (playing the good cop, today), cryptically brags about ‘The Game’ in his keynote address at the Center for American Progress’ :

We are acting as though the Iraqis are our colonial wards,” he said. “We are teaching them about democracy by arresting them, bombing them, by humiliating them and also helping them. It is an ambivalent course in democracy.
“This sounds like crazy talk”, you might say. “What could possibly motivate him to take this position?”

In lieu of my long-winded analysis, I’ll let you figure it out for yourselves by putting the following links into context:

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#1. To: All, christine, zipporah, ratcat (#0)

Got it?

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valis  posted on  2006-03-18   8:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

Last link didn't take...let's try again...

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valis  posted on  2006-03-18   8:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: valis (#0)

Zbigniew Brzezinski is an old time plutocrat. What did he expect from the neocons who have pulled off an administratice coup d'etat and taken over the Pentagon, State Department and even the military and Executive Branch?

“If a nation or an individual values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too.” W. Somerset Maugham

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-18   9:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)

You see the contradiction, though?

He's aligned with Pearl through ACPC to use 'al-Qaeda' against Russia.

Russia - Iran - Do the math...

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valis  posted on  2006-03-18   9:38:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: valis (#0)

Zbigniew Brzezinsky: "[t]he world power-position of the USA could best be secured by the ethnic destabilization of Europe as a possible competitor. This multiracial Europe will consequently be too busied by these circumstances to concern itself with global politics. A certain player in this game would be the Turks, considering their sheer population force. Thirty percent of the Turks are under 15 years of age."

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-18   9:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: valis (#4)

He's aligned with Pearl through ACPC to use 'al-Qaeda' against Russia.

Do you recall that Putin said of Chechnya that a 3rd force was responsible for the problems w/ the Chechnens?? Also remember the plane that was blown up by a terrorist..?? Supposedly a woman bomber but there was some question if i remember correctly there was some question later saying there were no Chechnens aboard?? Also there is a neocon website that is a pro liberation for the Chechnya. It's been awhile since I read it.. I'll see if I can locate it.. interesting list of people involved...

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-18   9:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

Yup. Yup. Yup. That's what I'm talking about.

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valis  posted on  2006-03-18   9:46:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Zipporah (#5)

Sounds like Zbig never really foresaw the rise of China and India. Can't win 'em all.

Now his thesis strikes me as sheer lunacy. The only large population group with any ethnic/racial similarity to the dominant group of the U.S. and Canada and he wants to destabilize it.

Sam Houston  posted on  2006-03-18   9:49:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: valis (#7)

Found it!

http://www.peaceinchechnya.org/
Zbigniew
Brzezinski photo, Alexander Haig photo, Stephen Solarz photo Founded in 1999, the American Committee for Peace in Chechnya is the only private, non-governmental organization in North America exclusively dedicated to promoting the peaceful resolution of the Russo-Chechen war. Chaired by former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski, former Secretary of State Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and former Congressman Stephen J. Solarz, the committee is composed of more than one hundred distinguished Americans representing both major political parties and nearly every walk of life. Former Ambassador Max M. Kampelman is the co-chair emeritus.

Based at Freedom House, the Committee's mission encompasses three distinct yet interrelated objectives:

  • Advocacy: Developing and promoting policies, through the U.S. government and international institutions, aimed at protecting civilians, improving conditions for refugees and securing a cease-fire;

  • Information: Advancing public awareness of the Chechen war, including its broader implications for democracy, human rights, and regional stability in both Russia and the former Soviet Union; and
  • Diplomacy: Convening private "Track II" talks between representatives of the Russian government and Chechen resistance aimed at developing a framework for ending the war and resolving Chechnya's long-term legal and political status.
To those ends, ACPC organizes educational programs for the public, develops policy recommendations for lawmakers and collaborates with an international network of more than 400 activists, journalists, scholars and non-governmental organizations. The Committee distributes Chechnya Today, a daily email news service, and Chechnya Weekly, an online news magazine produced by the Jamestown Foundation and edited by former Keston Institute President Lawrence A. Uzzell.

In keeping with its mandate to be an independent resource for the public and a good-faith arbiter for the warring parties, the committee does not accept financial assistance from the governments of Chechnya or Russia, or from private for-profit corporation with investments in the former Soviet Union.

Members--
Committee Staff--
Subscribe to Chechnya Today--
Subscribe to Chechnya Weekly--

Morton Abramowitz
Elliott Abrams
Kenneth Adelman
Bulent Ali-Reza
Richard V. Allen
Audrey L. Alstadt
Vadim Altskan
Zeyno Baran

Antonio L. Betancourt
John Bolsteins
John Brademas
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Richard Burt
John Calabrese
Eric Chenoweth
Walter C. Clemens
Eliot Cohen

Nicholas Daniloff
Ruth Daniloff
Midge Decter
James S. Denton
Larry Diamond
Thomas R. Donahue
Robert Dujarric

John Dunlop

Charles Fairbanks
Sandra Feldman
Geraldine A. Ferraro
Catherine A. Fitzpatrick
Erwin Friedlander
Frank Gaffney
Charles Gati
Richard Gere
Douglas Ginsburg

Paul Goble
Marshall I. Goldman
Orlando Gutierrez
Barbara Haig
Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
Robert P. Hanrahan
Paul B. Henze
Eleanor Herman
Peter J. Hickman

Norman Hill
Irving Louis Horowitz
Glen E. Howard
Bruce P. Jackson

Robert Kagan
Max M. Kampelman
Thomas Kean
Mati Koiva

Guler Koknar
Harry Kopp
William Kristol
Janis Kukainis
Saulius V. Kuprys
Kenneth D. S. Lapatin
Michael A. Ledeen
Robert J. Lieber
Seymour M. Lipset

Robert McFarlane
Mihajlo Mijajlov
Bronislaw Misztal
Joshua Muravchik
Julia Nanay
Johanna Nichols
Jan Nowak
William Odom
P.J. O'Rourke

Richard Perle

Richard Pipes
Norman Podhoretz
Moishe Pripstein
Arch Puddington
Peter Reddaway
Peter R. Rosenblatt
David Saperstein

Gary Schmitt
William Schneider
Alexey Semyonov
Andrew M. Sessler
Philip Siegelman
Sophia Sluzar
Stephen J. Solarz
Helmut Sonnenfeldt
Gregory H. Stanton

S. Frederick Starr
Leonard R. Sussman
Christopher Swift
Barry Tharaud
Jack Thomas Tomarchio
Sinan Utku
George Weigel
Caspar Weinberger
Curtin Winsor

R. James Woolsey
Tatiana Yankelevich

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-18   10:03:05 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Zipporah (#9)

See my link #2. hehe

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valis  posted on  2006-03-18   10:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: valis (#10)

DUH! Dear gawd..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-03-18   10:22:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: valis (#4)

You see the contradiction, though?

He's aligned with Pearl through ACPC to use 'al-Qaeda' against Russia.

Russia - Iran - Do the math...

Yes, I'm familiar with the geopolitics of the region. I know about the destabilization efforts to keep Russian influence at bay.

There was an excellent piece from LaRouche's organization that exposes all of the connections and roots of ZB and Kissinger and that whole bunch of cretins.

“If a nation or an individual values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too.” W. Somerset Maugham

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-18   10:40:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Sam Houston (#8)

Now his thesis strikes me as sheer lunacy. The only large population group with any ethnic/racial similarity to the dominant group of the U.S. and Canada and he wants to destabilize it.

Lunacy is to put it mildly. It's absolute genocide.

ZB obvioulsy missed the writings of Lawrence Dennis who clearly saw that the future would be a struggle between the "haves" and "have-nots". In other words, between the white Europeans and their descended nations and "everyone else". He said it would be a losing battle for us because of sheer numbers and that mutual cooperation would benefit all mankind.

“If a nation or an individual values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too.” W. Somerset Maugham

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-18   10:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings, Sam Houston (#13)

Lunacy is to put it mildly

Keep in mind that Pearl is a member of ACPC.

Regardless of the insane amounts of "lunacy", Z-B has never been 'out of the loop'.

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valis  posted on  2006-03-19   4:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: valis (#0)

The elite absolutely hate it when their universes overlap.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-03-19   5:20:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: valis (#14)

Keep in mind that Pearl is a member of ACPC.

Regardless of the insane amounts of "lunacy", Z-B has never been 'out of the loop'.

Never figured he had been out of the loop. I'm long familiar with all of these creeps. Looking at the list Zip posted, I see many of them whom I have seen before and know well their connections to the current neocon administration. These are all interlocking organizations with many different front names, but all with overlapping membership and sponsorship.

I am an old time reader of the court-killed Spotlight and member of Liberty Lobby, and currently a member of American Free Press and the Readership Council which have carried on the tradition of an independent press in America.

Hey, valis, I know you do loads of research and reading, but how long have you been in the movement?

I was first exposed to all of this back in the mid- to late-70s since my Dad subscribed to The Spotlight back then. So that is well over half my life. That is where I took control of my own education and kept up my studies of my own accord. I would not have been able to do this had I attended college and been further dumbed down and compartmentalized.

Here is a good explanation of how this country has been subverted by socialist ideology from Reasonable Action, Issue #241, Fall 2000,

    With the decline of political education in this country whereby people were taught about their history, the Constitution and indeed, even what liberty itself and its manifestations are, there developed an impulse among the American people toward extreme federalism, commonly referred to as the "Progressive Era" from approximately 1900 to 1935.

    These "Progressives" believed that federal government intervention was necessary to produce justice in our nation. Moreover, these people were led to believe "experts" in all phases of government were necessary to produce that just society - this Utopia - that would take care of all our needs. This process gathered much momentum where, in time, it became acceptable to establish the FBI and all other federal police powers, as well.

It behooves us to study and to know where the true police power resides. And that is with the highest elected official at the county level, the Sheriff. This is known as Posse Comitatus.

For truly, now, The Barbarians are Inside the Gates.

“If a nation or an individual values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too.” W. Somerset Maugham

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-19   10:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: All (#16)

Frederic Bastiat, in his book, The Law stated:

    If every person has the right to defend -- even by force -- his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right -- its reason for existing, its lawfulness -- is based on individual right. And the common force that protects this collective right cannot logically have any other purpose or any other mission than that for which it acts as a substitute. Thus, since an individual cannot lawfully use force against the person, liberty, or property of another individual, then the common force -- for the same reason -- cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, liberty, or property of individuals or groups.

    Such a perversion of force would be, in both cases, contrary to our premise. Force has been given to us to defend our own individual rights. Who will dare to say that force has been given to us to destroy the equal rights of our brothers? Since no individual acting separately can lawfully use force to destroy the rights of others, does it not logically follow that the same principle also applies to the common force that is nothing more than the organized combination of the individual forces?

    If this is true, then nothing can be more evident than this: The law is the organization of the natural right of lawful defense. It is the substitution of a common force for individual forces. And this common force is to do only what the individual forces have a natural and lawful right to do: to protect persons, liberties, and properties; to maintain the right of each, and to cause justice to reign over us all.

    But, unfortunately, law by no means confines itself to its proper functions. And when it has exceeded its proper functions, it has not done so merely in some inconsequential and debatable matters. The law has gone further than this; it has acted in direct opposition to its own purpose. The law has been used to destroy its own objective: It has been applied to annihilating the justice that it was supposed to maintain; to limiting and destroying rights which its real purpose was to respect. The law has placed the collective force at the disposal of the unscrupulous who wish, without risk, to exploit the person, liberty, and property of others. It has converted plunder into a right, in order to protect plunder. And it has converted lawful defense into a crime, in order to punish lawful defense.

“If a nation or an individual values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that too.” W. Somerset Maugham

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-03-19   10:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BTP Holdings (#16)

Impressive bio, my friend. Lots of info there. I only awoken in the mid 90s.

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valis  posted on  2006-03-19   14:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: valis (#0)

ratcat  posted on  2006-03-23   3:19:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: valis, BTP Holdings (#0)

Thanks for the links. Tons of info. I'm not getting a damn thing done here at work tonite. :^)

Ragin1  posted on  2006-03-23   3:31:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: ratcat (#19)

Wow. Never seen that pic before.

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valis  posted on  2006-03-23   3:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: valis, Ragin1, ratcat (#21)


FBI AGENT TESTIFIES
WHITE HOUSE REJECTED
HIS PRE-9/11 WARNINGS

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-03-23   3:53:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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