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Title: French President Macron Hopes to Rebuild Notre Dame in Five Years
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URL Source: https://www.newsmax.com/world/globa ... 019&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502rybdrt
Published: Apr 16, 2019
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Post Date: 2019-04-18 16:59:04 by BTP Holdings
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French President Macron Hopes to Rebuild Notre Dame in Five Years

Tuesday, 16 April 2019 03:07 PM

President Emmanuel Macron pledged on Tuesday that France would rebuild the fire-devastated Notre Dame de Paris cathedral, saying he hoped the work would be done in five years and the French people would pull together to repair their national symbol.

Macron devoted a brief prime-time televised address to Monday's catastrophic blaze in the heart of the capital, again postponing planned remarks on his response to months of anti-government protests.

"We will rebuild Notre Dame even more beautifully and I want it to be completed in five years, we can do it," Macron said.

"It is up to us to convert this disaster into an opportunity to come together, having deeply reflected on what we have been and what we have to be and become better than we are. It is up to us to find the thread of our national project."

"This is not a time for politics," added Macron, who had canceled a speech planned on Monday evening on the response to the "yellow vest" protests.

He visited the site of the fire late on Monday and promised then to rebuild the cathedral, parts of which date to the 12th century.

The cathedral spire was destroyed and its roof gutted but the bell towers were still standing and many valuable art works were saved after more than 400 firemen worked to contain the blaze, finally quelling it 14 hours after it began.

As the city and the country grieved for a potent national symbol, billionaires, companies and local authorities were quick to offer donations.

Some 24 hours after the fire started, more than 750 million euros ($845 million) had been pledged, including 500 million from the three billionaire families that own France's giant luxury goods empires: Kering, LVMH and L'Oreal.

Paris public prosecutor Remy Heitz said there was no obvious indication the fire was arson. Fifty people were working on what would be a long and complex investigation, officials said.

The fire swiftly ripped through the cathedral's oak roof supports, where workmen had been carrying out extensive renovations to the spire's timber-framed supports. Police began questioning the workers involved, the prosecutor's office said.

One firefighter was injured but no one else was hurt, with the fire starting at around 6:30 p.m. after the building was closed to the public for the evening. Firefighters examined the facade, with its spectacular 10-meter filigreed stained-glass rose window still intact. They could be seen walking atop the belfries as police kept the area in lockdown.

Investigators will not be able to enter the cathedral's blackened nave until experts are satisfied its walls withstood the heat and the building is structurally sound.

"Yesterday we thought the whole cathedral would collapse. Yet this morning she is still standing, valiant, despite everything," said Sister Marie Aimee, a nun who had hurried to a nearby church to pray as the flames spread.

"CATHEDRAL OF THE PEOPLE"

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#1. To: BTP Holdings, 4um (#0)

President Emmanuel Macron pledged on Tuesday that France would rebuild the fire-devastated Notre Dame de Paris cathedral...

Not to be insensitive to anybody's delicate sensibilities, but did the Catholic church run out of money all-of-the-sudden?

I know I'm old-fashioned, but whatever happened to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

Crap, don't answer that, I'm hopeless.

Government Good-Taxpayers, Pay-Up-Sucker!

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2019-04-18   17:21:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Esso (#1)

I know I'm old-fashioned, but whatever happened to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

I don't think that well defined legal doctrine applies to foreign countries.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2019-04-18   17:50:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Dakmar (#2)

I don't think that well defined legal doctrine applies to foreign countries.

Dammit, Yuri! Why you always pickin' on me?

OK, I understand that our Constitution doesn't apply to the whole world, but it just seems to be good, common sense.

You know damned well that I'm not nearly as well versed as you on most topics, but are there any places that are based on religion rather than the common good? Other than Vatican City?

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2019-04-18   18:09:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Esso (#1)

...did the Catholic church run out of money all-of-the-sudden?

No joke.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-04-18   18:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Lod, 4um (#4)

No joke.

Loddy, my man, I'm just a simple, city-bound hick. Even though I might be brain damaged, I still understand the difference between right and wrong, the difference between moral and immoral, and the truth and a lie.

They'll never take that from me. Only the Creator will. Hopefully, next time I might learn something new.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2019-04-18   18:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Esso (#5)

I still understand the difference between right and wrong, the difference between moral and immoral, and the truth and a lie.

Here's Waylon: you've hummed along to this one while enjoying a tall, cold one.

Remain strong, and hang in there with us, please.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2019-04-18   19:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Esso (#3)

No government exists for the common good. I can name dozens of States based on religion, Israel and Saudi Arabia for instance.

“I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. My affections, being concentrated over a few people, are not spread all over Hell in a vile attempt to placate sulky, worthless shits.” - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2019-04-18   20:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod, Cynicom, Dakmar, 4um (#6)

Remain strong, and hang in there with us, please.

Fellas, I don't think the Creator is ever gonna let me loose. I'll be here forever.

Shit, I'm not worried about going to Hell, I'm trying to get out of it.

You guys try to hang in there with me, please!

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2019-04-18   21:00:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Dakmar (#7)

No government exists for the common good. I can name dozens of States based on religion, Israel and Saudi Arabia for instance.

Well, I know that, but I'm not sure about Saudi Arabia. (Sorry, I'm using obfuscation).

I just learned the 'new' meaning of that today.

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long. - Dr. Eldon Tyrell

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2019-04-18   21:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Esso (#1)

I know I'm old-fashioned, but whatever happened to the concept of "separation of church and state"?

For one it never existed.

What the first Amend dictates is: "Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof. ..." The purpose being to prevent the establishment of a state church such as the "Church Of England" to which everyone, member or not, had to support. It was not a prohibition against any particular religion or church merely a prohibition against the formation of an "official" church.

As for Notre Dame the building, Cathedral, it is owned by the country of France not the Vatican.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Any sufficiently advanced evil is indistinguishable from stupidity. ~ Unk (Paraphrase of Clarke's 3rd Law: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")

Original_Intent  posted on  2019-04-19   2:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#0) (Edited)

"We will rebuild Notre Dame even more beautifully and I want it to be completed in five years, we can do it," Macron said.

"It is up to us to convert this disaster into an opportunity to come together, having deeply reflected on what we have been and what we have to be and become better than we are. It is up to us to find the thread of our national project."

"CATHEDRAL OF THE PEOPLE"

Translation: never let a crisis go to waste and.....Macron said:

"Notre- Dame would be re-built 'in a way consistent with our modern diverse nation'.

What does he mean? Notre-Dame as a multi-faith centre

He was speaking into @France24 mic. In subsequent loops the footage was cut just before he uttered it

.......

This is a very grave moment, a moment of decision. Is modern France and its leaders — political and cultural — really so vain as to think they can improve on the High Middle Ages? There are virtually no churches built in the past 100 years that will survive, or that deserve to. Any “improvements” to Notre Dame de Paris to make it reflect “our modern diverse nation” would be a desecration...."

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-cathedral-as-cube-notre-dame- de-paris/

===========================

"UPDATE: Macron quote is apparently fake. So that’s a relief."

[hmmmm. I wonder]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2019-04-19   18:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#11)

This is a very grave moment, a moment of decision. Is modern France and its leaders — political and cultural — really so vain as to think they can improve on the High Middle Ages? There are virtually no churches built in the past 100 years that will survive, or that deserve to. Any “improvements” to Notre Dame de Paris to make it reflect “our modern diverse nation” would be a desecration...."

Indeed, the Muslims who were allowed to enter the country said, "They allowed us to come in." ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2019-04-19   18:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#6)

Waylon Jennings

I shook Waylon's hand when he came off stage when The Highwaymen played in Chicago.

I was also personal security for Johnny Cash during the Meet & Greet after the show.

Willie had that dead look in his brown eyes, likely from smoking weed. LOL

They told me to follow Kris Kirstofferson out of the building to make sure nobody messed with him. He went up the stairs and I went up after him. When he got to the top landing he turned and looked at me. I told him what they told me, so he turned and kept going. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2019-04-19   18:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BTP Holdings (#12)

note my edit above. the quote is supposedly fake. my apologies if so.

"Indeed, the Muslims who were allowed to enter the country said, "They allowed us to come in." ;) "

With open arms....

http://tapnewswire.com/2017/04/zionist-jews-happily-brag-about-being-at-the- center-of-the-muslim-invasion-of-europe/

BTW, TruNews video posted a few hours ago:

Notre Dame Ablaze. Israeli Rabbi Says Jews Obligated to Burn Down Churches

https://www.trunews.com/stream/notre-dame-ablaze-israeli-rabbi-says-jews- obligated-to-burn-down-churches-trunews

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2019-04-19   18:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: BTP Holdings (#14)

Notre Dame Ablaze. Israeli Rabbi Says Jews Obligated to Burn Down Churches

https://www.trunews.com/stream/notre-dame-ablaze-israeli-rabbi-says-jews- obligated-to-burn-down-churches-trunews

The first 20 or 30 minutes of each broadcast are usually news headlines. The discussion of the title starts at the end of the headlines. I only happened on this site in the last month or so. It's so refreshing to listen to Christians who aren't blind-sided by Zionism. What a relief.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2019-04-19   19:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#15)

blind-sided by Zionism.

When I worked for the State of Illinois we had this big shot Engineer who wrote an Op-Ed for Chicago Tribune titled, I Am A Zionist.

He was in the yard one day and his car was dirty. I wrote "WASH ME" on it. When he saw it he started jumping up and down and screaming.

They made the yard toady wash his car. ROTFLMAO!

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2019-04-19   19:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Esso, BTP Holdings (#1)

www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/04/17/pers-a17.html

strepsiptera  posted on  2019-04-20   0:07:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17)

The renovation of Notre-Dame was financed on a shoestring. Two years ago, as church officials sought €100 million for the project, they were forced to mount an international appeal to donors and charities after the French state, which owns the cathedral, shockingly agreed to give only €2 million per year. With the image of the gutted hulk of Notre-Dame now burned into the consciousness of millions of people around the world, it is clear that the resulting levels of fire safety staffing were tragically inadequate.

strepsiptera  posted on  2019-04-20   0:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent (#10)

French separation of church and state goes much further than the American version

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laïcité

strepsiptera  posted on  2019-04-20   0:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: All (#19)

] The 1905 law establishing separation did not use the word laïcité. It was not until the Constitution of 1946 (Constitution de 1946, IVe République) that the word appeared explicitly as a constitutional principle entailing legal effect, but without being further specified.[11] All religious buildings in France (mostly Catholic churches, Protestant chapels, and Jewish synagogues) became the property of the city councils. Those now have the duty to maintain the (often historical) buildings but cannot subsidize the religious organizations using them.

strepsiptera  posted on  2019-04-20   0:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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