Another Voice (Rev. 18:4) "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
#2. To: All, Insurrection Act Or Bust, Secession, Game On (#1)
The Texas GOP, meanwhile, suggests that "law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution."
The @TexasGOP is out with a statement in the wake of the Supreme Court decision, all but calling for secession:
“Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution.” pic.twitter.com/4bB3gk88t4
— Adam Kelsey (@adamkelsey) December 12, 2020
Another Voice (Rev. 18:4) "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
Another Voice (Rev. 18:4) "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken
I will fight to the death with my brothers and sisters in TX
Somebody tell me what the fuck Texas needs with the U.S.S.A.? We have sea ports, our own power grid, our own military, food, enough oil and gas to sustain us for centuries. The U.S. has proven it won't abide by the Constitution, contract broken, nothing owed.
The IQ and the life expectancy of the average American recently passed each other in opposite directions. - George Carlin
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." -- Thomas Jefferson
While it does look pretty dire from my perspective and while some may be of the opinion "that it's game on" it is a very dangerous game and hasty decisions will be the wrong ones.
There are many ways that this can play out. I'm sure many will consider secession, some will consider strikes and tax boycott's, and others will consider a civil war.
One thing I am sure of is that the people of this country that are normal will not be satisfied to be ruled over or governed by Biden or Harris or any other so-called democrat administration after the past 4 years of their bullshit, topped off with this so-called election. If one listens at all to the media it seems they've already acquiesced to Biden and look forward to 2024. That's gate-keeping at its finest.
I am a one man secessionist movement and I seceded around 30 years ago when I had already had enough of the D.C. shit hole and it had only gotten worse until Trump. I think we need to know if the military and police are down with the criminal Biden. And before we run headlong into a suicide mission we need to assess the pros and cons of such an activity and see what kind of participation among patriots we have that support a resistance movement. We do not want to appear as just another Antifa movement.
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. "
USA! USA! USA! Bringing you democracy, or else! there were strains of VD that were incurable, and they were first found in the Philippines and then transmitted to the Korean working girls via US military. The 'incurables' we were told were first taken back to a military hospital in the Philippines to quietly die. – 4um
First and foremost, I believe there still are a couple lawsuits before the USSC. The Texas case was quite significant for giving the USSC "original jurisdiction" meaning there's no filing first in district courts, and it also carried a great amount of popular significance given it was Texas and numerous other states, and not just the Trump campaign or Sidney Powell working as a freelance lawyer of sorts.
Not that this bodes well for the other suits to the point where a Trump win is likely. I'd say it isn't at all, but the adjudication door is not yet formally closed. Yet.
But assuming that will fail, I consider a renewed secession movement to be really cool. I've been saying a while now that the USA is just too damn big. My vote for prez where I am counts for about 30 prez votes where you guys are just due to the difference in population, which is significant. There is no real reason why people in the Bible belt should have to have the same president, or government for that matter, as people on the left coast. Two very different cultures should be entitled to their separate governance. I think the USA could easily be broken into 6 different countries. It would certainly break up the D.C. power center.
Obviously the precedent for secession in the USA is not particularly favorable for the disenfranchised. Then again, the left has pretty much promoted the idea of secession in places like Portland and Seattle, but somehow, I don't think they will be so understanding when secession is acted upon by populous pro-Trump white-supremacists & racists like us, instead of rioters and looters with criminal histories as they set as a moral requirement for such privileges.
There's also the small issue of the national debt. If Texas and other states secede, will those states be willing to assume their "fair" share of the US debt? But even if they would, what would happen to the US dollar if a real secession were to get serious? Likely it would crash and burn in a way far bigger than the Hindenburg, and that would PO about everyone. Though then again, it may well crash and burn anyway.
I do recall the last time around, it was the election of Lincoln to the oval office that set off a secession movement, so if it happens this time with Biden, then it would be something poetic.
And that happened before the advent of aircraft, missiles, and nuclear weapons.
An all-out revolution might fare better.
"After tomorrow those SOB's will never embarrass me again. That’s not a threat. That’s a promise.” – LBJ to his mistress Madeleine Brown on the eve of JFK assassination
the last time around, it was the election of Lincoln to the oval office that set off a secession movement, so if it happens this time with Biden, then it would be something poetic.
The main issue in the War Between the States was State's rights.
Slavery was not an issue until Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation which only freed the slaves in rebellious states.
But to my understanding, secession is now effectively prohibited since the Act of 1871 which formed the corporate UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
This means the several States are subdivisions of the parent corporation and are effectively forbidden from secession. ;)
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
Are we talking about the same Texas that elected Ann Richards and George W. Bush?
Not in polite company, we're not !
Great answer Doug.
I have a story from a guy that was a Marine for 10 years. He was in Beirut when the barracks was bombed.
After he got out he joined the DEA. He told me some great stories about our fearless leaders and drugs.
The Bush brothers (Jeb and George) were captured on video tape in Miami picking up a kilo of coke. It must have been a big party. I bet that video was lost years ago.
Then they put a wiretap on the private phone line a the Governor's mansion in Little Rock when Bill Clinton was Governor. They got him on the line telling the party on the other end, "Yeah, go pick up another pound." of coke.
Bill Clinton has a perforated septum. A hole in his nose from doing too much good coke. I wonder if he can whistle Dixie thru that hole? ROTFLOL
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke
The main issue in the War Between the States was State's rights.
That's a generalization, but the catalyst for the decision was, as I understand it, the election of Lincoln. If it were someone else, I believe war would have been at least delayed.
That's a generalization, but the catalyst for the decision was, as I understand it, the election of Lincoln. If it were someone else, I believe war would have been at least delayed.
The South Carolina Militia attacked Ft. Sumter. There was no Confederate Army at the time.
There were four candidates for President. Breckenridge won most of the southern States. Douglas only won Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee.
Secession is a pipe dream that our masters let us entertain ourselves with -- and waste time, money, and energy on -- while they gather ever more information on us via their vast and limitless spy network. What "we the people" want doesn't matter. Even if a dozen state legislatures voted overwhelmingly to secede and formally declared such tomorrow, the US government would NEVER allow it.
Besides that, NO STATE LEGISLATURE WILL EVER VOTE TO SECEDE. South Carolina is the very Seat of Secession, and I will bet you nine to nothing that of the 170 legistraitors in Columbia, there aren't three that would support secession.
The states couldn't even stop fedgov's Real ID despotism a few years ago. Anybody who thinks fedgov would EVER let a state secede is deluded. Fedgov recently sent 15 FBI agents to Charlotte, North Carolina to investigate an alleged noose hanging from a garage door. Neither the governor nor the state legislature protested that action.
CSA President Jefferson Davis, when addressing the Mississippi Senate during Lincoln's war, said something to this effect: "I was not an advocate of secession, because unlike many of my colleagues here who believed that the Union would let us go in peace, I had spent much time Washington, and I knew those Yankee scoundrels, and I knew that they would never let us separate from them without a fight."
