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Title: UW Lecturer Backed On Talk About 9/11
Source: www.madison.com
URL Source: http://www.madison.com/tct/mad/tops ... s/index.php?ntid=89596&ntpid=1
Published: Jul 2, 2006
Author: By Aaron Nathans
Post Date: 2006-07-02 12:29:07 by Mind_Virus
Keywords: None
Views: 92
Comments: 15

UW Lecturer Backed On Talk About 9/11

Lawmaker calls for his firing

By Aaron Nathans

A University of Wisconsin-Madison lecturer should have the right to speak in class about his theory that the U.S. government was behind the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, several students and staffers said in spot interviews this morning.

The interviews also revealed a surprising level of skepticism about the government.

"There's a lot that goes on, we never hear things that are covered up," said Susi Irwin, a classified staffer at UW-Madison enjoying a break with her colleagues on the Union Terrace. "As open as this country is, there are a lot of things we don't know."

And one heavily tattooed man, studying and too busy to chat, said in response to the lecturer's theory: "Wouldn't be surprised."

Kevin Barrett, a UW-Madison lecturer scheduled to teach an introductory class on Islam this fall, said on a Milwaukee radio talk show Wednesday that the United States helped bring down the World Trade Center towers to justify the war in Iraq. State Rep. Steve Nass, R-Whitewater, said Barrett should be fired.

Provost Patrick Farrell said in a statement on Thursday that the university will review Barrett's plans for the course and his past teaching performance. Barrett, who received his doctorate from UW-Madison in 2004, has a one-semester appointment paying $8,247. This will be his first class on Islam at UW-Madison.

Irwin's colleague, Roberta Mecum, wondered aloud whether the United States is "like the rest of the world," repressing people's right to think.

"What happened to free speech?" Mecum said. "What about the guy who said the world is round instead of flat? He was a heretic, too."

Mecum added that the reaction of President Bush and Vice President Cheney to the news of the attacks showed that they were caught off guard.

A group of first-year occupational therapy graduate students was sitting at a table by the water at the terrace, having just finished an exam.

"I'd rather be shown all sides of it than one side," said Summer Shepstone. "I don't believe most things presented as fact."

"The media tells you everything. What's true, anyways?" said Erin Tauscher.

"The media's controlled by the government," Shepstone said.

"I hope to God it's not true," chimed in Jessica Klatt, referring to Barrett's theory.

"I tend to not even listen to the news," said Katie Knapp.

Inside the Memorial Union, at the cafeteria, Tanya Schulze, a junior, said she trained for the Air Force last year but suffered an injury and received an honorable discharge.

She said Barrett should not be allowed to give the lecture, but he should not be fired.

"That's really tough, with free speech. But I think that's crossing a big boundary," Schulze said. "It's almost like polluting someone's mind."

Wafik Lotfallah, an Egyptian math lecturer, said he strongly disagrees with Barrett's point of view. Lotfallah, who is Christian, said there is a belief among "a fraction" of Muslims that their own people could not be capable of such an awful act.

"I believe that Muslims did it," Lotfallah said. "There's a wide spectrum of Muslim ideology."

"Freedom of speech allows people to talk violently, not act violently. He isn't talking violently, just saying something wrong," Lotfallah added.

Paul Holden of Madison, having breakfast with a newspaper on the terrace, said Nass was just trying to score political points by beating up on the university.

"Steve Nass does not understanding sifting and winnowing," Holden said.

Schulze, who described herself as conservative, said she couldn't understand Barrett's mindset.

"I don't think we'd be sending our troops over and dying for our freedom if we did it ourselves. We're not stupid," Schulze said.

'A bunch of losers': During his appearance Wednesday night on Jessica McBride's show on WTMJ, Barrett disputed most of the widely accepted information about the attacks that brought down the World Trade Center in New York City when airliners were flown into the twin towers.

Among other things, he claimed the group believed to have carried out the attacks was "a bunch of losers who couldn't even fly planes," and that evidence indicates the buildings were brought down by controlled demolitions.

He acknowledged discussing Sept. 11 in teaching classes, but said it was only to give both sides of the issue, not to convert anyone to his point of view.

"I'm trying to teach them how to think, not what to think," he told McBride.

Barrett wrote a widely read opinion column for The Capital Times last month expressing similar views.

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#1. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

A University of Wisconsin-Madison lecturer should have the right to speak in class about his theory that the U.S. government was behind the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, several students and staffers said in spot interviews this morning.

The interviews also revealed a surprising level of skepticism about the government.

applause for sensibility!

She said Barrett should not be allowed to give the lecture, but he should not be fired.

"That's really tough, with free speech. But I think that's crossing a big boundary," Schulze said. "It's almost like polluting someone's mind."

spit for stupidity!

Bring 'Em Home

christine  posted on  2006-07-02   12:47:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

"I hope to God it's not true," chimed in Jessica Klatt, referring to Barrett's theory.

"I don't think we'd be sending our troops over and dying for our freedom if we did it ourselves. We're not stupid," Schulze said.

Sad. Almost five years later, and not a clue.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-07-02   20:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#2)

Sad. Almost five years later, and not a clue.

Truer words were never spoken.

Even during the 'nam, we figgered it out much quicker than this.

Where are these kids getting their "information?"

Lod  posted on  2006-07-02   21:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lodwick (#3)

I don't know, but I feel guilty. Sometimes I feel like I've spent too much with the choir, and not enough time getting the word out.

Someone, I think it was Kamala, posted a great link the other day:

http://www.peaceproject.com/d ollars/CR4.htm

The White Rose Society did a lot of good, I think, before their careers were cut short by the spiritual [and otherwise] ancestors of the current fascists.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-07-02   21:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lodwick (#3)

sorry...."Sometimes I feel like I've spent too much TIME with the choir..."

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-07-02   21:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#3)

Where are these kids getting their "information?"

X-BOX?

tom007  posted on  2006-07-02   21:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, tom007, everyone (#4)

The http://www.deceptiondollars.com are a great, easy, non-threatening way to spread the word - just say, "Excuse me, here's a few billion dollars for you."

http://www.libertystickers.com is also another resource for those whose wives will allow stickers on the family rig.

And of course, http://www.bringemhome.org is Christine's sight for great magnetic ribbons for those who have metal cars...or you can just mash her tag to get there for product.

Lod  posted on  2006-07-02   21:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lodwick (#7)

Christine's sight?

Since her lasik procedure, she sees quite well.

How about SITE?

Lod  posted on  2006-07-02   21:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lodwick (#7)

Good links! Thank you! My daughter received a deception dollar from a friend of hers on the West Coast, 3 or 4 years ago. That was pretty encouraging at the time, since her father was a hot shot with the Republicans in DC. It is the only one I have ever come across.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-07-03   1:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tom007 (#6)

Where are these kids getting their "information?"

X-BOX?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Bout right! That seems to be the extent of home-schooling these days... Isn't it just special that we've adopted the 10th plank of the Communist Manifesto (public schools)? Or for that matter ALL 10 platforms of the Communist Manifesto - see: http://www.nationmakers.com/com_man.htm Wonder how many of those kids know they're communists????

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-03   4:13:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

Wonder how many of those kids know they're communists????

Or for that matter how many Amerikan adults.....

"This country has come to feel the same when congress is in session as when the baby gets hold of a hammer." Will Rogers..... "None can love freedom heartily but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." John Milton.....

innieway  posted on  2006-07-03   4:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mind_Virus (#0)

"I don't think we'd be sending our troops over and dying for our freedom if we did it ourselves. We're not stupid," Schulze said.

Many of us are stupid, very stupid. Other's are just complete morons as Schulze has just demonstrated.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02] More and more of our imports come from overseas. - George W. Bush

RickyJ  posted on  2006-07-03   4:47:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#4)

  I bought 100 of those 11 talking point postcards. Very slick and eye catching for the sheep.

  I carry a few in my truck along with a couple of video tapes.

  Mark

Kamala  posted on  2006-07-03   8:10:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Kamala, Mind_Virus, All (#13)

Very slick and eye catching for the sheep.

I THOUGHT it was you! I think I will get some too. My family will be the first to get them. Funny how they won't believe anything from the 'net, but if it is in the newspaper, on TV, in a book, or professionally presented such as on these cards, they will accept it. How brainwashed we are.

I reject that Americans are stupid. I keep thinking of Ezekiel 34, where God is talking about His lost sheep, wandering over every hill and dale, and the false shepherds not bothering to look for them. It is worse than that, now; the sheep are deliberately being led astray. They are more lost than ever, through a deliberate campaign of brainwashing. Berit Kjos does a good job of explaining how it was done from a Biblical perspective here:

Brainwashing in America WHY FEW DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY by Berit Kjos

"...absolute behavior control is imminent.... The critical point of behavior control, in effect, is sneaking up on mankind without his self-conscious realization that a crisis is at hand. Man will... never self-consciously know that it has happened." [1] Raymond Houghton, To Nurture Humaneness, ASCD (curriculum arm of the NEA), 1970

"The Protestant Ethic will atrophy as more and more enjoy varied leisure and guaranteed sustenance.... Most people will tend to be hedonistic..." [2] Behavioral Science Teacher Education Program (B-STEP), Department of Health, Education and Welfare, 1969.

"We were trained in all phases of warfare, both psychological and physical for the destruction of the Capitalistic society and Christian civilization. In one portion of our studies we went thoroughly into the matter of psychopolitics. This was the art of capturing the minds of a nation through brainwashing and fake mental health... During the past few years I have noted with horror the increase of psychopolitical warfare upon the American public." [3] Kenneth Goff, member of the U.S. Communist Party from 1936 to 1939....."

http://www.crossroad. to/articles2/brainwashing.html

Obviously this UW Lecturer is a loose cannon that slipped through their fingers, and will need to be silenced.

Between brainwashing, and the Deliberate Dumbing Down of America [Charlotte Iserbyt?] through control of the media and education by the enemies inside the gate, Americans hardly have a chance. Even the crap they put in our water, food, and air is said to have deleterious effects on our thinking. I think when Americans are shown the truth, they are going to be a force to reckon with. The PTB know that. Why else would they be building all those concentration camps, and planning chaos, nuke attacks, and biological warfate against Americans?

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-07-03   13:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Kamala (#13)

I forgot to say THANK YOU for posting that link. So Thank You!

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-07-03   13:23:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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