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Title: The difference between rockets and missiles
Source: wikipedia
URL Source: http://wikipedia
Published: Aug 6, 2006
Author: me
Post Date: 2006-08-06 13:12:19 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 2081
Comments: 33

Katsuyha Rocket - Hezbollah

In military use, rockets generally use solid propellant and are unguided.

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Guided missiles - Israel, by way of America

Missiles that have the ability to maneuver through the air can be guided, and are known as guided missiles. These have three key system components:

• tracking
• guidance
• flight

A tracking system locates the missile's target. This can be either a human gunner aiming a sight on the target (remotely from the missile) or an automatic tracker. Automatic trackers use radiation emanating from the target or emitted from the launch platform and reflecting back to it from the target. Passive automatic trackers use the target's inherent radiation, usually heat or light, but missiles designed to attack Command & Control posts, aircraft or guided missiles may look for radio waves. Active automatic trackers rely on the target being illuminated by radiation. The target can be "painted" with light (sometimes infrared and/or laser) or radio waves (radar) which can be detected by the missile. The radiation for the painting can originate in the missile itself or may come from a remote station (for example, a hilltop gunner can illuminate a target with a laser device and this can be used to direct an air launched guided missile).

A guidance system takes data from the missile's tracking system and flight system and computes a flight path for the missile designed to intercept the target. It produces commands for the flight system.

The flight system causes the missile to maneuver. There are two main systems: vectored thrust (for missiles that are powered throughout the guidance phase of their flight) and aerodynamic maneuvering (wings, fins, canards, etc).

There are some similarities between guided missiles and guided bombs. A guided bomb, dropped from an aircraft, is unpowered and uses aerodynamic fins for forward horizontal maneuvering while falling vertically.


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The MSM hasn't bothered to explain the difference to the sheeple. As you can see the Israelis - thanks to the American taxpayer and military contractors - has the more effective weapon system. Subscribe to *Hasbarfa Alert*

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Yet Israel has killed far more children than Hezbollah.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-06   13:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#1)

One can only surmise women/children were the targets. After watching these butchers, how can anyone with a brain come to any other conclusion?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   13:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

Bingo!

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-08-06   13:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

As you can see the Israelis - thanks to the American taxpayer and military contractors - has the more effective weapon system.

But apparently NOT the more effective WILL... Hizzb'Allah has definitely put up one helluva fight.

Israel has shown NO MORAL fiber whatsoever as demonstrated by their choice of "targets" including seemingly everything except HA. Make no mistake, this has been an intentional carnage of Lebanon, with an ulterior motive other than "disarming HA", and "securing peace". See:http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=31814&Disp=0

innieway  posted on  2006-08-06   13:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

What does the technical differentiation matter?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   14:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: buckeroo (#5)

What does the technical differentiation matter?

One is a sophisticated weapon, while the other is a bottle rocket on steroids. File the Israeli response under disproportionate response.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   14:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: innieway (#4)

Hizzb'Allah has definitely put up one helluva fight.

And I love it. Allah Akbar !

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   14:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Hez bump.

Please Wake Up Before It's Eternally too Late

Lod  posted on  2006-08-06   14:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

One is a sophisticated weapon, while the other is a bottle rocket on steroids. File the Israeli response under disproportionate response.

You do realize that despite the obvious class of weaponry, it becomes annoying having relatively large and preponderant bottle rockets landing in the roof of your home, don't you? I mean that kind of unwelcomed event could mess up a baseball TV program while having a beer or two with friends and family.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   15:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: buckeroo (#9)

You do realize that despite the obvious class of weaponry, it becomes annoying having relatively large and preponderant bottle rockets landing in the roof of your home, don't you?

Not nearly enough Hezbollah bottle rockets have found their target. Had they, we wouldn't be exchanging posts. I'd be to busy celebrating.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   16:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

Constant overflights by supersonic aircraft at low altitude would make me apt to start firing off any ordnance I possessed.

Quit bogarting that peace, Herbert!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-08-06   16:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

I'd be to busy celebrating.

What are you saying? That you wholeheartedly enjoin in the possible death and destruction of innocent people?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   16:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Dakmar (#11)

A reasonable response to some assjack who is trying to kill you.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   16:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#12)

No, not just the people. The entire nation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   16:21:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#14)

I see. You want to destroy a "people" so as to eliminate a nation to achieve some "concept" .. isn't that idea tantamount to genocide?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   16:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#5)

What does the technical differentiation matter?

are you serious?

what does it matter?

You're saying this as a joke right?

we're all supposed to put our blinders on and ignore reality if that reality tells us that the Israelis are committing murder?

Insanity! I choose not to partake.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-06   16:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Red Jones (#16)

I noticed that you didn't answer the question I posed. In fact, you countered my earlier question with a list of other questions. Are you attempting to avoid the issue by some method of retaliatory debate forcing you to reconcile your logic with about moral principle?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   17:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: buckeroo (#17)

you're pretty funny.

a difference between the missile technology of Israel and the rocket technology of hezbollah is that the Israelis succeed at killing 20 times as many Lebanese as Hizbollah succeeds at killing Israelis.

this is obvious to any casual observer who has a functioning brain. and you expect me to take your question seriously. I grow tired of insults.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-08-06   17:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Red Jones (#18)

you're pretty funny.

I don't find wanton death and destruction "funny." It is a disgrace to all of us. And you think that indiscriminately firing a "water rocket" into some Israeli's home potentially murdering or at minimum disrupting their personal lives can solve this situation?

How can you think this sway? It is beyond the pale of moral principles.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   17:11:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo (#15)

isn't that idea tantamount to genocide?

Why no Buck, I'd prefer to call it sustainable peace

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   19:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

Lobbing a rocket ... err ...missile ... err ... water bottle rocket ... is sustainable peace? Exactly how is this transaction performed? Are you saying a dud missile launched by Hezbollah landing in Northern Israel is akin to eating a turkey by all those free well wishers that believe in individual dignity? Good God! This might be cool from a viewpoint that goes nowhere I suppose. Yet, are you saying death & destruction has a lofty purpose when there is no principle behind the actions?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   20:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

JT .. I know you are on the forum, right now. Why not come upon your own thread and appease ol' Buck, here? I have a pending question that you have ignored.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   21:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo (#22)

Buck my friend, what have I said that confuses you? I believe Israel is a nation born in war, and should therefore be consumed by war. I’m weary of this “ally” and its barbaric behavior. Same for the Zios who lay prone before a Torah scroll.

If it's Sunday, it must be Buck......

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   21:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#19)

I don't find wanton death and destruction "funny."

You're right, it's not.

    And you think that indiscriminately firing a "water rocket" into some Israeli's home potentially murdering or at minimum disrupting their personal lives can solve this situation?

What about Lebanese or Palestinian homes? Do they matter?

    It is beyond the pale of moral principles.

When it comes to moral principles, one only need look to the facts. The facts are:

(1)That well over half of Israeli deaths in this war have been MILITARY deaths. When you are in the military you must know there are certain risks involved, including injury or death from fighting in war. But that's your JOB.

(2)That somewhere in the neighborhood of 95% of Lebanese deaths in this war are CIVILLIAN. Among that number over 50% are women and children. It is NOT their JOB to suffer injury or death from war. They are known as INNOCENT VICTIMS.

(3)That due to it's far superior guided weaponry, Israel should be expected to limit it's damage to the intended target (in this case the Hizzb'Allah militia) at a far greater rate than HA could with it's unguided weaponry. That is NOT what has happened.

From a MORAL standpoint, there is no question of who has shown better morals in this conflict. All of the above also applies to Palestine. And in case you aren't aware, this fraud called the State of Israel was wrought upon the indigenous peoples of Palestine without their consent or even input in the first place. Please check out this site and learn a bit of history and truth.

innieway  posted on  2006-08-06   22:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

I believe Israel is a nation born in war, and should therefore be consumed by war.

Aren't there any other nations around the world that fit this premise? What about the land your feet walk across as you grab a cold one from the frig?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   22:45:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: innieway (#24)

When it comes to moral principles, one only need look to the facts. The facts are:

(1)That well over half of Israeli deaths in this war have been MILITARY deaths. When you are in the military you must know there are certain risks involved, including injury or death from fighting in war. But that's your JOB.

(2)That somewhere in the neighborhood of 95% of Lebanese deaths in this war are CIVILLIAN. Among that number over 50% are women and children. It is NOT their JOB to suffer injury or death from war. They are known as INNOCENT VICTIMS.

(3)That due to it's far superior guided weaponry, Israel should be expected to limit it's damage to the intended target (in this case the Hizzb'Allah militia) at a far greater rate than HA could with it's unguided weaponry. That is NOT what has happened.

From a morally defensive posture that is obvious about your post just above, I say you are intentionally corrupt within the framework of your own response (s). Well, unless you are right there in Israel or Palestine or Lebanon. But I don't see that. You are in the good ol' USA acting like a charitable rally rouser doing nothing other than ensuring a waste of time.

Lets see you get all pissed off when the next bottle rocket hits your door. I am sure you won't excuse the action as if it was your own fault.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   23:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: buckeroo (#26)

From a morally defensive posture that is obvious about your post just above, I say you are intentionally corrupt within the framework of your own response (s).

Buck.....time out....can I use your above sentence? as a tag line?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-06   23:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

JT, as always you can do as you feel free to perform. Remember the ten million cases of SPAM you bought in 1999 as a method of "defense" against the wild public world-wide scourge concerning Y2K?

And today, I suppose you are still eating it. My my my .. how time never changes with some folks.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-06   23:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull (#27)

JT, aren't you going to answer my questions concerning your obvious angst about the world around you?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-07   0:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#29)

JT, aren't you going to answer my questions concerning your obvious angst about the world around you?

I feel no angst, Buck. It’s more a smug satisfaction in watching the joined nations of America/Britain/Israel tear apart the Middle East, just as I predicted. So go peddle your Israeli soft soap somewhere else. You won’t find much sympathy here for rogue nations and the pious christian psychotics who support them.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-08-07   9:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#26)

Lets see you get all pissed off when the next bottle rocket hits your door.

You want everyone else to answer your questions, but you didn't provide any answer to mine.

Your talk about bottle rockets hitting homes is a direct reference to attacks from the Hizzb'Allah side of the conflict. Israel is being victimized. What about the flip side of the coin? What about Palestinian or Lebanese homes. DO THEY MATTER? You seem to be very defensive of the Israeli position, with blatant disregard for the Palestinian or Lebanese position.

Again - the FACTS speak for themselves. And the FACT is when it comes down to homes being TARGETED, it's the Israeli side doing it. In consideration of the FACT that there have been very limited CIVILLIAN deaths in Israel (and I have yet to hear of the first Israeli CHILD casualty in this conflict) throughout all this, the real VICTIMS are innocent Palestinian and Lebanese CHILDREN!!!

By ONLY bringing up the issue of the "bottle rockets", YOU seem to be the one saying it's OK for Israel to do as they please, including WANTON DESTRUCTION, and murder of CHILDREN. Luke 17:1 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

And while I'm on the subject of FACTS, here's another little FACT for you to chew on. America’s $84.8 billion in aid to Israel from fiscal years 1949 through 1998, and the interest the U.S. paid to borrow this money, has cost U.S. taxpayers $134.8 billion, not adjusted for inflation. Or, put another way, the nearly $14,630 every one of 5.8 million Israelis received from the U.S. government by Oct. 31, 1997 has cost American taxpayers $23,240 per Israeli.

In a nutshell, the American taxpayer has been complicit in the murder of innocent Palestinian and Lebanese CHILDREN!! That's right Joe Six Pack (and you too Buck), you have their BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS TOO... So Buck, in answer to that statement of yours that I quoted above - IF (and don't take that if lightly - it would be more likely a "friendly fire" guided missile hit the door than the "bottle rocket") one of those "bottle rockets" hits my door then NO I don't have any reason to cry about it. At least not if I pay taxes.

Did you even bother to check out the website I gave the link to? If not, you should. Learn some FACTS before you form your OPINIONS.

innieway  posted on  2006-08-07   10:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

So go peddle your Israeli soft soap somewhere else.

I have always sensed that you misread me. This is another one of those cases wherein you show a tirade and have thin skin to prove it. You must be black&blue all over having such weak performance skills not capable of standing up to your own thread and posts.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-13   11:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: innieway (#31)

Israel is being victimized.

Thats a fact. And I took time to read your website.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-08-13   11:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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