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Title: REAL CHANCE HASTERT TO RESIGN UNDER PRESSURE - The Wall Street Journal
Source: Wall Street Journal
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/public/articl ... 1102.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top
Published: Oct 3, 2006
Author: By DAVID ROGERS and JOHN HARWOOD
Post Date: 2006-10-03 20:26:23 by Uncle Bill
Keywords: Grand, Old, Pedophiles
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Comments: 19

Pressure on Hastert, Republicans
From Foley Scandal Intensifies

The Wall Street Journal
By DAVID ROGERS and JOHN HARWOOD
October 4, 2006

Amid new signs that Republicans' political woes are deepening, House Speaker Dennis Hastert rejected conservative calls for his resignation over the Mark Foley-congressional page scandal. But for the first time, there appears to be a real chance the Illinois Republican could opt to step down after next month's election even if his party retains power.

And with new polls showing the party slipping, Mr. Hastert faces immense pressure to respond more emphatically to the almost daily revelations of Mr. Foley's sexually explicit cyber-communications with teenage former pages.

"We have to do something different, more dramatic," said Rep. Ray LaHood (R., Ill.). "This is a political mess and what we've done so far is not working. Somebody has to take responsibility for this. It is on our watch."

At a news conference last evening in West Palm Beach, Fla., Mr. Foley's attorney for the first time announced the former lawmaker is gay, and said Mr. Foley had been molested between the ages 13 and 15 by a clergyman. But the lawyer, David Roth, said his client had never engaged in sexual relations with a minor notwithstanding his online contacts.

The hailstorm of unfavorable publicity that has hit Republicans and President Bush -- extending beyond the Foley matter to Iraq -- have cost the party the initiative at a critical point in the midterm-election campaign, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll conducted during the weekend.

The survey shows that by 41%-18%, Americans say news they "have seen and heard over the past few weeks" has made them less favorable toward continued Republican control of Congress; by 34%-23% they called themselves more favorably inclined toward Democratic control. It also shows a decline in Mr. Bush's job approval rating to 39% from 42% earlier this month.

Even before the Nov. 7 elections, there is mounting pressure on Republican House leaders over the Foley scandal. In an interview late Tuesday, Mr. Hastert said he would be willing to resign if he thought it would help the party but isn't convinced this is the case. "If I thought it would help the party, I would consider it, but I think just the opposite," he said.

Any abrupt departure could disrupt the rest of the leadership in the final weeks of the campaign. And one of the Republicans' weaknesses now is they have no clear transition figure.

If the party were to lose power, Mr. Hastert is already expected to step out of the leadership. He said Tuesday that if the party retains power, it is still his intention to run for speaker in the next Congress but "you have to count the votes."

The damage from the scandal now complicates that task because the office of the speaker is elected by the full House. If Republicans lose seats, any small block unhappy with the party's leadership would gain more say in deciding who is speaker.

President Bush came to the speaker's assistance Tuesday: "I know Denny Hastert... I know that he wants all the facts to come out," Mr. Bush said. And stung by a "Resign Mr. Speaker" editorial in the conservative Washington Times, which described his performance as "inept," Mr. Hastert spent the day on radio talks shows trying to tamp down the anger against him.

Mr. Hastert's aides trumpeted a letter Tuesday night from Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition supporting Mr. Hastert. And appearing with conservative radio-show host Rush Limbaugh, Mr. Hastert sought to shift blame to Democrats, saying the opposition is orchestrating the leaks of explicit instant messages between Foley and former pages.

"We have a story to tell, and the Democrats have -- in my view have -- put this thing forward to try to block us from telling the story. They're trying to put us on defense," Mr. Hastert said.

Republicans have discussed ending the page program entirely or appointing a high-profile attorney to review the situation. "We have to act quickly," said House Rules Committee Chairman Davie Dreier (R., Calif.), a Hastert confidant. And the speaker he wants to create a blue-ribbon panel to assess the situation and what more could be done to better protect teenagers in the program both during their participation and after they have left Washington.

"When they leave Washington we don't have much control over it," Mr. Hastert said. "We're trying to put something together that would help."

The pattern followed by Mr. Foley, a Florida Republican who resigned abruptly on Friday, was to pursue pages after they had ended their tenure at the Capitol. ABC News, for example, posted new communications Tuesday in which Mr. Foley appears to have interrupted a vote on the House floor in 2003 to engage in Internet sex with a teenager who was still in high school but no longer a page.

The graphic nature of the instant messages adds to their impact on voters. "This isn't a lobbyist moving money around for favors. This is pretty easy to understand what's going on here," said one Republican leadership aide. And Mr. Hastert says he has felt blind-sided by the recent revelations, saying that the sexual content goes far beyond the "red flag" Foley email his office became aware of last fall, which requested a page's photo but include no overt sexual overtures.

Nonetheless, the speaker was hurt by the fact that he went home to his farm in Illinois on Friday night, as the scandal was breaking. It wasn't until Saturday night that the leadership produced a united statement on the crisis, and associates worry the press-shy speaker will be typecast as a Washington version of Cardinal Bernard Law, who was faulted for not doing more to address child abuse by priests in the Boston Archdiocese.

As speaker, Mr. Hastert is most responsible for the page program, and when parents of a Louisiana teenager were upset by an August 2005 Foley email to their son, a former page, the complaint was taken to Mr. Hastert's staff last fall. But Mr. Hastert says he wasn't fully informed by his aides until recently, and even now he often mistakenly speaks of the issue being handled by the House Page Board, when in fact most of the six member panel were excluded from knowing of the complaint.

Instead, Rep. John Shimkus (R., Ill.), the board's chairman and a Hastert ally, chose to deal with the issue without informing Democrats and simply going to Mr. Foley directly and warning him to stop. Mr. Foley, whose political committees have contributed more than $700,000 to fellow Republicans in the last five elections, had some modest clout in the House. But the expedited, discreet handling of the affair most illustrates fears that if the complaint became public, it could hurt Mr. Foley and the party by reawakening public speculation about his being gay. He and party leaders were concerned such a revelation could cost him the support of voters.

"It was commonly known that Mark was gay," said Rep. Ray LaHood (R., Ill.). And Rep, Barney Frank, an openly gay Democrat from Massachusetts, said the whole handling of the initial complaint appeared driven by Mr. Foley's political situation. "Knowing as they did that Mark was gay -- and was conflicted about how to handle it -- made this more sensitive politically," Mr. Frank said.

Meanwhile, the latest Journal/NBC poll suggests even more problems for Republicans' campaign positions, with a 46% plurality of Americans now saying the war in Iraq is hurting the nation's ability to win the fight against terrorism. That is up from 32% earlier this month when Americans were nearly evenly divided over whether the war was helping, hurting or not making a difference in the war on terrorism.

The results show the signs of momentum from the president's early September political offensive calling voters' attention to the broader war on terrorism have halted. The poll came amid a double-barreled dose of bad news for Mr. Bush's party, from disclosures about Mr. Foley to questions about progress in Iraq. The survey didn't ask specifically about the sex scandal or recent assessments of the war.

"No incumbent party wants to run an election on these sorts of issues," says Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster who helps conduct the Journal/NBC survey. Mr. McInturff predicted a renewed Republican effort to focus on terrorism. But Democratic counterpart Peter Hart calls it "a moment of crystallization" in the battle to determine whether the Republicans keep the House and Senate for the last two years of Mr. Bush's term. The survey of 805 registered voters, conducted Sept. 30-Oct. 2, has a margin for error of 3.5 percentage points.

The survey shows Democrats -- who need a net gain of 15 House seats and six Senate seats to recapture control of Capitol Hill -- holding a nine-percentage-point edge, 48%-39%, on the question of which party voters want to control Congress after the election. That is unchanged from early this month.

The Foley matter comes as voters have already been souring on incumbents in general, and the Republican-led Congress in particular. In the poll, voters, by 45%-38%, said it is time to give a new person a chance rather than re-elect their incumbent member of Congress; in early September, voters split on that question.

By 57%-37%, voters say America's safety from terrorism doesn't depend on success in Iraq, which has been a central assertion of Mr. Bush and Republican congressional candidates. And by 61%-29%, voters say Iraq is now in a state of civil war -- a conclusion the White House has tried to forestall in the belief it would further erode support for Mr. Bush's policy there. Even Republicans, by 47%-39%, share that assessment.

The poll also contains signs that the congressional Republican strategy of "localizing" elections to take the spotlight off a politically weakened Mr. Bush isn't working. Fully two-thirds of voters now say their decision for Congress will be a signal for the Bush administration -- with 39% signaling opposition and 28% signaling support. In April, only about half of Americans called their vote a signal for the administration.

The poll's best news for Republicans is what Mr. McInturff calls a "lessening of economic tension and pressure" as gasoline prices have fallen and the stock market has flourished. Voters now split, at 22% apiece, on whether the economy will get better or worse over the next year. In June a 40% plurality of voters predicted the economy would get worse.

Write to David Rogers at david.rogers@wsj.com and John Harwood at john.harwood@wsj.com (1 image)

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#1. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

You can't get better than this mess. It's been popcorn every night.

Bush: Worst President Ever

justlurking  posted on  2006-10-03   20:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: justlurking (#1)

"It's been popcorn every night."

LOL!

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Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-10-03   20:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

Mr. Hastert's aides trumpeted a letter Tuesday night from Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition supporting Mr. Hastert. And appearing with conservative radio-show host Rush Limbaugh, Mr. Hastert sought to shift blame to Democrats, saying the opposition is orchestrating the leaks of explicit instant messages between Foley and former pages.

"We have a story to tell, and the Democrats have -- in my view have -- put this thing forward to try to block us from telling the story. They're trying to put us on defense," Mr. Hastert said.

Sure you have a story to tell, you lying piece of dog shit! You've had the opportunity to tell it for quite some time...what was holding you back? An election, perhaps? Nah.......that couldn't be it!

Furthermore, who gives a damn where the information comes from........by your own admission, you tried to prevent the story from getting to the demowits!

You're another slimeball who shouldn't be allowed within 1000 feet of a school!

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   20:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Uncle Bill (#2)

Hell, I may even have to miss Nip/Tuck tonight. This crap is ten times more entertaining.

Bush: Worst President Ever

justlurking  posted on  2006-10-03   20:36:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

Republicans have discussed ending the page program entirely or appointing a high-profile attorney to review the situation. "We have to act quickly," said House Rules Committee Chairman Davie Dreier (R., Calif.), a Hastert confidant. And the speaker he wants to create a blue-ribbon panel to assess the situation and what more could be done to better protect teenagers in the program both during their participation and after they have left Washington.

Sure you are, you lying sack of cowshit! That is why there was brand spanking new dorm facilities built speficially for the pages under your watch! Yep...so now, you were either concerned about them or you're admitting to waste of taxpayer dollars.

As usual, let's have another blue ribbon commission to take hours of testimony and write another report, to be stacked on top of all the other accountability reports stacked in the vaults of this and all prior houses.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   20:38:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: rowdee (#5)

It's interesting reading the comments of a mad lunatic shill bushbot.

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Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-10-03   20:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

Instead, Rep. John Shimkus (R., Ill.), the board's chairman and a Hastert ally, chose to deal with the issue without informing Democrats and simply going to Mr. Foley directly and warning him to stop. Mr. Foley, whose political committees have contributed more than $700,000 to fellow Republicans in the last five elections, had some modest clout in the House.

A perfect example of congresscowards buying each other off......many people would call them chits or chips, among other names. And when the bill comes due, you pay off with defending whatever the hell is going badly.

And they 'all' do it. You can read almost daily of one rep or senator donating to anothers' campaign coffers.........why not just keep the money for their own campaigns?

Pssssst.....cause they wouldn't be buying anybody off then.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   20:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

"It was commonly known that Mark was gay," said Rep. Ray LaHood (R., Ill.).

Just think........foley's attorney only found out today........he held a news conference about it!

Whaz dat old saying about the coverup being worse than the crime? That literally doesn't apply here because the pervert needs to have his nuts removed and stuffed in his mouth...but rather, in their trying to cover up the truth of his queerness, they're acting so outrageously that with a little luck, they will lose their asses that first week in November.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   20:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

Gotta give Dreier credit. Given HIS problems, I would imagine he and Lindsey Graham would stay as far away as possible from this particular case, ifn you know what I mean and I think you do.

Ol' Coach Denny has some rumors going around from back when he first ran for office about some nekkid rasslin' going on, with just him and one of his rasslers. I imagine those rumors are being recollected in his district right about now.

Denny might have a nasty surprise waiting for him come the first Wednesday morning in November.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-10-03   20:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Uncle Bill (#6)

Ya think they might realize they'd be a lot better off if they quit "Hating" so much? I swear she had a 'bitchy' soul transplanted into her heart and mind.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   20:53:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

The survey shows that by 41%-18%, Americans say news they "have seen and heard over the past few weeks" has made them less favorable toward continued Republican control of Congress; by 34%-23% they called themselves more favorably inclined toward Democratic control.

“The National parties and their presidential candidates, with the Eastern Establishment assiduously fostering the process behind the scenes, moved closer together and nearly met in the center with almost identical candidates and platforms, although the process was concealed as much as possible, by the revival of obsolescent or meaningless war cries and slogans (often going back to the Civil War). … The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ”throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy. … Either party in office becomes in time corrupt, tired, unenterprising, and vigorless. Then it should be possible to replace it, every four years if necessary, by the other party, which will be none of these things but will still pursue, with new vigor, approximately the same basic policies.” Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, pp. 1247-1248

"The current world situation has been deliberately created by these elites who manipulate both the so-called 'right' and the so-called 'left'. By controlling the resulting 'synthesis' - the end result of Hegelian 'thesis' and 'antithesis' - a Globalist New World Order is produced. You can call it techno-fascism or techno-feudalism, but the result is the same - a global consolidation and mega-corporate transnational centralization of power, capital and resources. And how does it work? By using 'managed conflict' or 'crisis management'. A crisis or problem is produced. Then the crisis is 'managed' and the problem is 'solved' with an outcome that is invariably favorable to the goals and agendas of the Global Power Elite." Antony Sutton, America's Secret Establishment

"A general dissolution of the principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy.... While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue, they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.... If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the people, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security." Samuel Adams

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-03   21:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

Hastert is a red herring distraction. He isn't important.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-10-03   21:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

Well at least these pages didn't end up like Chandra Levy.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-03   21:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: RickyJ (#13)

If he hasn't already, I'll bet toe-sucking Dick Morris will be on Fox News and writing in Newsmax on just how to handle this. LOL! What a cesspool of criminals.

The Hooker, Line And Sinker

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Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-10-03   21:50:09 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: RickyJ (#13)

"Speaker of the House Dennis J. Hastert is a perfect poster child for the Republican Party: Bloated and out-of-control."

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Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-10-03   21:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Uncle Bill (#6)

It's interesting reading the comments of a mad lunatic shill bushbot.

'Ol Howlin' embracing homosexuality...who would'a thunk?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-10-03   22:06:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: who knows what evil (#16)

Accuracy In Media - Republicans Protected Foley, Not Kids
"Foley, an unmarried 52-year-old representative, had always refused to answer questions about his sexual orientation. Now that his emails and messages to teenage male pages have been revealed, it appears clear that Foley is a homosexual with a particular attraction to underage boys. While pro-homosexual activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two. Although almost all child molesters are male and less than 3% of men are homosexual, about a third of all child sex abuse cases involve men molesting boys—and in one study, 86% of such men identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual. Ignoring this reality got the Catholic Church into trouble over abusive priests, and now it is doing the same to the House GOP leadership. They discounted or downplayed earlier reports concerning Foley's behavior—probably because they did not want to appear 'homophobic.' The Foley scandal shows what happens when political correctness is put ahead of protecting children."

That is the bottom line: the House Republican leaders did not protect the children. They protected one of their own, a known homosexual making overtures to a young boy. Regardless of whether some of the more offensive Internet messages were held back for political impact, the House Republican leaders could have avoided the scandal if they had taken steps to rid their leadership and membership of known and active homosexuals. They have only themselves to blame.

If Hastert and other top House leaders don't resign, look for many pro-family conservatives to sit out this November's elections."


I'm sorry, but after extensive
examination, there's nothing left redeemable

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Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-10-04   0:28:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Uncle Bill (#17)

If Hastert and other top House leaders don't resign, look for many pro-family conservatives to sit out this November's elections."

I was already staying home; thanks to the Republican 'open border' policy.

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who knows what evil  posted on  2006-10-04   7:26:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Uncle Bill (#0)

WSJ : Shill rag alert

The suppression of competition and the establishment of local monopolies on the dissemination of news and opinion have characterized the rise of Jewish control over America's newspapers. The resulting ability of the Jews to use the press as an unopposed instrument of Jewish policy could hardly be better illustrated than by the examples of the nation's three most prestigious and influential newspapers: the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post. These three, dominating America's financial and political capitals, are the newspapers that set the trends and the guidelines for nearly all the others. They are the ones that decide what is news and what isn't at the national and international levels. They originate the news; the others merely copy it. And all three newspapers are in Jewish hands.

http://www. realnews247.com/who_rules_america_updated_2004.htm

angle  posted on  2006-10-04   7:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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