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Title: Depleted U - An impromptu interview w/ a Career Tank Specialist
Source: me
URL Source: http://none.com
Published: Apr 27, 2005
Author: Tom007
Post Date: 2005-04-27 22:07:28 by tom007
Keywords: Specialist, impromptu, interview
Views: 2681
Comments: 488

Had an intesting conversation with a man I have known for about 5 months. He delivers to my store, handles alot of cash and is a "straight up" kind of guy. I like him, and I am sure his employer does as well. A steady Eddie man, the kind that makes the country run.

We somehow got talking about the ME, and he mentioned he had been to Egypt, and really did not care for any of it. I asked him how it was that he found himself in the ME and he said he was in the service of the military.

Naturally I wanted to know in what type of service he was in. Well, he was drafted into 'Nam, and did twentyfour years, and tanks were his thing. He started out in a tank designation I did not know of. I know a little about M1A1' and wanted to know some things about them, and the man was very evidently the real deal, no swagger, no he man stories etc. He is who he claims.

After some talk of tactics, guns, how to disable an M1A1, exploding armor, all of which he had the knolwedge of a solider who had spent many years with this type of equipment. He was pretty high up in the system.

Then I asked him about DU. Well turns out he was one of the men on the ground testing it at Aburdeen Proving grounds, shooting various things, like mounds of earth, then digging into it to estimate the ballistics, etc.

Did this many time, and my friend related that one time a DU projectile fragmented into the mound of earth. They were to go dig all the pieces of the remenents out. As he tells me, there was a hole that one of the fragments had made, and as they were poking around, a field mouse was scared up and scampered into that hole made by a fragment.

He just sat back and waited for it to come out-; it didn't. After a few minutes, he saw that it was dead.

He went and got the General of the testing operation, and showed him what he had discovered. The General and his men looked at the situation and told all the testers to go away. For three weeks the site was closed, except to the investigators.

Three weeks later, the investigation was complete. The report said the mouse died of "starvation". My friend looked at me, eye to eye, and laughed. "That mouse damn sure didn't die of starvation", he said emphatically.

He said when the DU rounds hit a tank, he could "see a mushroom cloud", formed (Note, alot of high intensity heat will form a mushroom cloud event).

He said "if you take a giger counter into one of the tanks with DU munitions it will beep like crazy". He said that the explosiom of a DU round into steel was" basically a miniature explosion of a nuclear bomb".

He said they would put goats in the test tanks, and around them. He stated that " for twentyfive meters around the tank, hit by a DU round, all the goats would be dead, ten meters, mangled, turned inside out".

He believed DU dust to be alot more dangerous than the military was allowing.

This man is much more creadible, to me, much more, than the talking hairdoo's reading spin points from the Pentagon.

Draw your own conclusions, this is what I heard today, from a man with incontrovertable creadibility with me. He was there.

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#100. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#95)

You see, the link you gave required a password.

Well, if you want to base your opinion on education and reality, you're going to have to actually expend some effort. Or, you could just regurgitate the Newsmax / WND / Fox / Rush Limbaugh talking points.

1) Listen idiot - Don't give me bad links and I won't make the mistake. It is moot though - the conclusion I posted is real and conforms to the facts.

2) I don't know Newsmax and don't know their position on anything. I don't know what WND is. I don't get Fox and I work days, so I don't hear Limbaugh. I'm educated, including technically, and generally informed and I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I've backed up every claim I've made and that's why you're pissed off.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:12:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Kyle (#93)

Yeah, tell it to the Gulf War 1 veterans who, btw, your "Help is on the way" administration has pretty much told to STFU and go away. I have a lot more faith and trust in the validity of the extensive data given here than I do your sources. I guess it all comes down to who you choose to believe. I know this government has a long, long history of lying to the American people. As dumbya said here. ..

Gulf War Syndrome/Depleted Uranium

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." ~ Henry Kissinger ~ January-February 2003 edition of Eagle Newsletter

christine  posted on  2005-04-28   16:14:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut, Jhoffa_ (#98)

Interestingly enough, I just read the MSDS you provided for compressed air, and guess what! It isn't considered a hazard. Doh! The MSDS for DU was just the tiniest bit more serious. Eh?

I've read hundreds of MSDS's and they always sound much worse than reality. The reason is similar to why the warnings on drugs make them almost always sound worse than the disease. My point was that after all of the other substance that has been posted, to dredge up the MSDS is silly.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: christine (#101)

I have a lot more faith and trust in the validity of the extensive data given here than I do your sources. I guess it all comes down to who you choose to believe.

Bingo! We have a winner. I choose to believe the vast majority of the experts worldwide who aren't political hacks. You choose to go w/ the small minority that fit into your twisted world view. 'Nough said.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#98)

The MSDS for DU was just the tiniest bit more serious. Eh?

Oh no, of course not. In Bushzarro World, exposure to ionizing radiation and aerosolized heavy metals is good for you. If you don't believe me, just ask the half of the Gulf War I vets that are now either dead or disabled. Pass the Kool-Aid please.

Esso  posted on  2005-04-28   16:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#96)

What part of, "That their illnesses are attributable to their exposure to uranium is very, very unlikely. A truly enormous body of scientific data shows that it is virtually impossible for uranium to be the cause of their illnesses." don't you understand?

The part I don't understand is where some moron who calls himself Kyle claims that DU is not a hazard.

It's not me; it's the vast majority of the peiople who know this stuff. I'm just the messenger.

Calling me a moron doesn't make up for losing the argument on substance.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Esso, Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#104)

If you don't believe me, just ask the half of the Gulf War I vets that are now either dead or disabled.

Raving lunatic rantings. This is utter BS and unsupportable. I've seen this posted before by the truly gullible and I've seen their laughable sources. Grow up and start thinking for yourself.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Kyle (#102)

    My point was that after all of the other substance that has been posted, to dredge up the MSDS is silly.

On the contrary, the purpose of these sheets is to provide emergency medical professionals with the information they need to save your life or treat you in the event you're exposed to one, or more, dangerous substances.

The sheets clearly say (under hazards) that DU is Toxic and to avoid inhalation or ingestion, be surveyed and decontaminated.

I fail to see how this could be any more clear.

PS: It took an FIOA for the Navy to come off that "Silly" sheet, btw.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-04-28   16:21:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Kyle (#100)

Listen idiot - Don't give me bad links and I won't make the mistake. It is moot though - the conclusion I posted is real and conforms to the facts.

Bad link? Hardly. It was an link to a very well respected journal publication specific to the nuclear industry. You made such a big deal about being educated and depending upon reality that I thought you might be interested in hard evidence. I guess I was wrong. You're only interested in spin, evasion and distraction. Maybe you should consider enlisting in the military when you get out of high school. I hear it builds character.

2) I don't know Newsmax and don't know their position on anything. I don't know what WND is. I don't get Fox and I work days, so I don't hear Limbaugh. I'm educated, including technically, and generally informed and I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
You're not a very convincing liar.
I've backed up every claim I've made and that's why you're pissed off.
Tell me again how DU is not a hazard. I just love that one!

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Kyle (#105)

    Calling me a moron doesn't make up for losing the argument on substance.

Well, you're half right.

Kyle, he's posted absolute reams of data above.. and you've read what the US Navy has to say.

This arguement isn't lost by a long shot.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-04-28   16:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Kyle (#106)

Raving lunatic rantings.

U.S. Government numbers, Asshole.

Esso  posted on  2005-04-28   16:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Kyle (#102)

My point was that after all of the other substance that has been posted, to dredge up the MSDS is silly.

No, the point was to highlight that you are a mindless bot who parrots the pro-war propaganda no matter how much evidence and fact is placed before you. Guess what, it worked.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#108)

Bad link? Hardly.

Try it buttmunch. It asks for a password.

It was an link to a very well respected journal publication specific to the nuclear industry. You made such a big deal about being educated and depending upon reality that I thought you might be interested in hard evidence.

Then, since it was a bad link, please post the conclusions.

2) I don't know Newsmax and don't know their position on anything. I don't know what WND is. I don't get Fox and I work days, so I don't hear Limbaugh. I'm educated, including technically, and generally informed and I'm not a conspiracy theorist.

You're not a very convincing liar.

It is the absolute 100% truth. I don't appreciate it when you slimeballs acuse me of lying. being a paid shill, being whatever, just because I haven't bought your BS.

I've backed up every claim I've made and that's why you're pissed off.

Tell me again how DU is not a hazard. I just love that one!

You have neatly conflated two intyenetional distaortions: I never said it wasn't hazardous at all. Tons of experts have said that it is only very slightly hazardous. You must be getting desparate to use such tactics.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Kyle (#103)

I choose to believe the vast majority of the experts worldwide who aren't political hacks.

Again with the lies. You've systematically rejected the plethora of worldwide experts that have been presented to you here.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Jhoffa_ (#70)

PS: Looks like the dust is explosive too.. Now, isn't that interesting?

Dust of nearly anything is explosive.

tom007  posted on  2005-04-28   16:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Jhoffa_ (#109)

Kyle, he's posted absolute reams of data above.. and you've read what the US Navy has to say.

Get off the MSDS crap. Tons of data have been posted already; read it.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Kyle (#105)

Calling me a moron doesn't make up for losing the argument on substance.

Substance? You mean like the Health Physics Journal article you tried to misrepresent? hehehe Nice try, bot.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#113)

Again with the lies. You've systematically rejected the plethora of worldwide experts that have been presented to you here.

Your 'experts', to a man, have a political axe to grind. Some are downright ludicrous. You have conveniently ignored the real experts that I've linked to, when you haven't cavalierly dismissed them as part of the 'CONSPIRACY'.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Kyle (#112)

Try it buttmunch. It asks for a password.

No shit, hotrod. That's what professional journals do. Once you get out of high school, you might actually discover that you too can register and read real scientific data. Until then, enjoy your press releases from the RNC.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Kyle (#112)

I don't appreciate it when you slimeballs acuse me of lying.

Then quit lying.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#116)

Substance? You mean like the Health Physics Journal article you tried to misrepresent? hehehe Nice try, bot.

That's all you got left? Quibling over whether a quote came from the right web page. I guess you're done.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#119)

I don't appreciate it when you slimeballs acuse me of lying.

Then quit lying.

I'm not lying. You don't know me. Shove it up your ass.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Kyle (#115)

I am.

One of his excerpts is from the Ministry of Defence.

Cool, eh?

And, so far as the MSDS goes... I know you're probably outraged at President Bush for not treating our brave soldiers and soldierettes as well as the law would require a factory worker to be treated after DU exposure, but do try to control yourself.

If you need to vent over his neo-con wickedness, I'd suggest firing off a scathing letter to your congressman.

Jhoffa_  posted on  2005-04-28   16:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Kyle (#103)

Of course, you won't look at the link with the vast information posted there and documentation of numerous victims of DU poisoning. You won't accept anything that doesn't fit into your closed-minded paradigm. I beg to differ with your "small minority" accusation. I believe the small minority, the world over, are people like you who believe a government who lies to you over and over.

christine  posted on  2005-04-28   16:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#118)

No shit, hotrod. That's what professional journals do. Once you get out of high school, you might actually discover that you too can register and read real scientific data. Until then, enjoy your press releases from the RNC.

It requires that I pay. I'm not going to pay to find out what I already know. If you are insisting that that site concludes differently than all the other truly scientific sources, please post their conclusions.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Kyle (#112)

I never said it wasn't hazardous at all.

Okay. I'll pretend that the following two posts don't exist. hehehe

Most is excreted rather quickly and studies have found that there is no evidence of significant hazard.

Hazards are minimal.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: christine (#123)

Of course, you won't look at the link with the vast information posted there

Are you unable to differentiate between peer-reviewed science and the conspiracy theorist rantings of 'Beyond Treason 2005'? If not, then there is no use in further discussion.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#125)

Most is excreted rather quickly and studies have found that there is no evidence of significant hazard.

Hazards are minimal.

What's wrong w/ the above. They are the facts. Too bad they conflict w/ your prejudices.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:46:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Kyle (#126)

Pentagon admits Gulf War weapons were toxic: Many troops didn't know depleted uranium ammo, armor dangers, report says.

The Atlanta Journal and Constitution

The Atlanta Journal and Constitution; 1/9/1998; Arthur Brice STAFF WRITER

Arthur Brice STAFF WRITER The Atlanta Journal and Constitution 01-09-1998 The Pentagon said for the first time Thursday that thousands of Gulf War soldiers may have been needlessly exposed to toxic depleted uranium (DU).

The revelation in a yearly report released Thursday by Bernard Rostker, special assistant for Gulf War Illnesses, comes just a few months after the Pentagon maintained that only a handful of U.S. ground troops had been exposed during Operation Desert Storm. The Pentagon had assured Gulf War veterans early last year that they were not under any health risks from the radioactive ammunition.

"The admission that DU is a health hazard and that thousands may have been exposed is a watershed event," said Paul Sullivan, executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Center, a group representing 36 veterans groups.

"It's another step forward in favor of veterans," Sullivan said. "It's another answer in a very large puzzle."

U.S. and British forces used more than 1 million DU armor-piercing rounds during Desert Storm, mostly to penetrate Iraqi tanks and other heavy armor. It was the first time that the toxic metal, 1.6 times more dense than lead, was used in warfare. Depleted uranium also was used in the construction of M1A1 tanks used by American troops.

Many of the 100,000 Gulf war veterans suffering from a host of maladies say they believe their illnesses were caused by inhaling smoke and particles from exploding DU rounds or by exposure to contaminated vehicles.

Rostker's report admits that the Pentagon could have prevented exposure with proper training of ground troops. The health hazards, the report said, were well-documented.

"Our investigations into possible health hazards of depleted uranium," the report says, "point to serious deficiencies in what our troops understood about the health effects DU posed on the battlefield."

For the most part, Rostker said, the information was known only by technical specialists in nuclear-biological-chemical health and safety fields.

"Combat troops or those carrying out support functions generally did not know that DU-contaminated equipment, such as enemy vehicles struck by DU rounds, required special handling," the report states. "Similarly, few troops were told of the more serious threat of radium contamination from broken gauges on Iraq's Soviet-built tanks.

"The failure to properly disseminate such information to troops at all levels may have resulted in thousands of unnecessary exposures."

But the Pentagon still maintains that it doesn't know whether any troops were made ill by the exposure.

"We're studying that," Defense spokesman Tom Gilroy said Thursday. "I wouldn't say we've reached a conclusion one way or the other on that."

That rankles some veterans' advocates.

"They won't step up to the line and say we have to assume exposures and provide treatment," said Jim Tuite, director of the Gulf War Research Foundation.

"It's sad to learn that there were exposures," Sullivan said, "but let's do something positive. Let's provide health care, conduct medical research and initiate training."

The Pentagon announced Wednesday that it was going to initiate widespread training on depleted uranium.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-28   16:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Kyle (#127)

MoD knew of depleted uranium risks four years ago.

The Daily Mail (London, England)

The Daily Mail (London, England); 1/11/2001

Byline: DUNCAN GARDHAM;MICHAEL CLARKE

OFFICIALS knew at least four years ago that depleted uranium posed a serious risk to soldiers' health, it was revealed last night.

Ministry of Defence documents show servicemen should have been warned of the potentially lethal affects of the cancer-causing dust.

Leaked reports dating back to 1997 warned Ministers of the dangers of the substance, used to make armour-piercing ammunition more effective.

The documents said soldiers could suffer lung, lymph and brain cancers as a result of working inside vehicles contaminated by depleted uranium (DU).

They added: 'First and foremost, the risk of occupational exposure by inhalation must be reduced.' Army veterans accused Armed Forces Minister John Spellar of misleading the House of Commons when he made an embarrassing U-turn this week and announced that Balkan veterans would be offered health tests.

Mr Spellar went out of his way to play down the health implications of DU, saying the Government had no evidence of any damage to our troops and that the danger was negligible. The leaked document suggests otherwise.

It says: 'Inhalation of insoluble uranium dioxide dust will lead to accumulation in the lungs with very slow clearance - if any.

'Although chemical toxicity is low, there may be localised radiation damage on the lung leading to cancer. Uranium compound dust is therefore hazardous.'

It adds: 'All personnel should be aware that uranium dust inhalation carries a long-term risk to health ... [the dust] has been shown to increase the risks of developing lung, lymph and brain cancers.

'Working inside a DU dust contaminated vehicle without adequate respiratory protection will expose the worker to up to eight times the OES [the Occupational Exposure Standard].' The document from 1997 - The Use and Hazards of Depleted Uranium Munitions, which was based on research carried out in 1993 - adds: 'All personnel should have a full medical history taken and be counselled appropriately.' It says the worst exposure was likely to be for troops working involved in the recovery destroyed tanks.

And it goes on to advise that exposure can be limited by 'careful husbandry and the use of respiratory filters or positive pressure systems when working in battle-damaged vehicles'. No such protective clothing was worn by soldiers.

An MoD spokesman said last night: 'This is just one document. It is based on another document from 1993, produced by a trainee and never endorsed or finalised.

'It was not endorsed by superiors and does not reflect other government studies dating back several years. We believe it is scientifically flawed, misleading and incorrect. ' But Shaun Rusling, of the National Gulf War Veterans and Families Association, said: 'This shows Mr Spellar misled the Commons in what he said on Tuesday.' Ian Townsend, the British Legion's general secretary, dismissed the Government's response.

He said: 'If a member of the public suffered from chronic fatigue, hair loss, severe bouts of depression or cancer, they would ask for and receive assessment, answers and treatment.' Tory defence spokesman Iain Duncan Smith, said: 'Ministers must explain when they found the risk, what precautions they took and why they have refused to say that they knew anything about it.'

Meanwhile the MoD also admitted that DU could pose a much bigger risk to soldiers in Kosovo than previously thought.

They said the dust could have been spread when weapons missed their targets and hit buildings or cars.

It was also claimed that Britons living near firing ranges could be at risk from DU. Professor Malcolm Hooper of Sunderland University said dust from exploding shells could travel 25 miles, threatening the populations of nearby towns.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-28   16:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Kyle (#117)

Your 'experts', to a man, have a political axe to grind.

Really? Perhaps you could enlighten me to the axe that the following people are grinding:

REJ Mitchel
S. Sunder
K. Baverstock
C. Mothersill
M. Thorne
Dr. Rosalie Bertell
Michael Mariotte
Col. J. Edgar Wakayama OSD/DOT and E/CS
Dr. Doug Rokke
Asaf Durakovic
Alexandra Miller
Z. Goldbert
B.E. Lehnert
O.V. Belyakov
A.M. Malcolmson . . .

And the list goes on and on and on...

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Jethro Tull, christine, Mr Nuke Buzzcutt, Jhoffa_ (#129)

Maybe Kyle is a UN shill:

WHO ‘suppressed’ scientific study into depleted uranium cancer fears in Iraq

Dakmar  posted on  2005-04-28   16:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Kyle (#126)

then there is no use in further discussion.

on this we agree.

christine  posted on  2005-04-28   16:52:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Kyle (#120)

That's all you got left? Quibling over whether a quote came from the right web page. I guess you're done.

You got busted misrepresenting the conclusion of a legitimate source. That's just a bit more serious than quibling over whether it was the right page. Look, if you have no ethical integrity, you just as well give up. You just keep demonstrating that you wish to be known as a liar.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Jethro Tull (#128)

Pentagon admits Gulf War weapons were toxic: Many troops didn't know depleted uranium ammo, armor dangers, report says.

Simply can't be true. Our very own RNC Kyle (Retarded Nut Case) says that it's perfectly safe.

Esso  posted on  2005-04-28   16:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Kyle (#121)

I'm not lying. You don't know me. Shove it up your ass.

I know enough to know that you are a liar.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Jhoffa_ (#122)

One of his excerpts is from the Ministry of Defence.

Cool, eh?

TRANS: I'm losing the argument so I'll make an allusion to just one of the sources as being part of the 'CONSPIRACY" and ignore the rest.

And, so far as the MSDS goes... I know you're probably outraged at President Bush for not treating our brave soldiers and soldierettes as well as the law would require a factory worker to be treated after DU exposure, but do try to control yourself.

Meaningless rhetoric.

If you need to vent over his neo-con wickedness, I'd suggest firing off a scathing letter to your congressman.

More meaningless rhetoric. I guess I must have gotten through.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:55:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#135)

I know enough to know that you are a liar.

Then you tell me what I've lied about and how you know it, asshole.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-28   16:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Kyle (#124)

Scientists Reject Pentagon Reassurances on Depleted Uranium.

US Newswire

US Newswire; 5/8/2003

WASHINGTON, May 8, 2003 (U.S. Newswire via COMTEX)

A widely reprinted May 6 Associated Press wire story quoted US Army officers saying that armor-piercing depleted uranium shells used in Iraq pose no health threat, and that children playing with expended DU tank shells would have to eat and then "practically suffocate on DU residue" before health problems occurred.

But a growing number of scientists and experts are repudiating such reassurances as false. UN and other studies identify DU as a toxic hazard which can attack the kidneys and cause lung cancer if inhaled or ingested, and can contaminate the water supply.

The UK Royal Society, the World Health Organization, and other scientific bodies warn that children in contact with DU- contaminated soil are at particular risk. "Children playing with soil may be identified as the critical population group," reported the peer-reviewed Journal of Environmental Radioactivity in February 2003, "with inhalation and/or ingestion of contaminated soil as the critical pathway."

Tiny DU particles from exploded rounds can be inhaled or ingested by individuals touching or disturbing contaminated equipment, drinking contaminated milk or water or by children playing in soil, and can cause cell damage.

The Department of Defense's own studies point to significant potential probems from DU exposure, causing DNA damage, transformation of cells to a precancerous phase and cancer in the muscles of rats.

Prominent scientists, veterans and other experts on depleted uranium are available now for media interviews to set the record straight on DU hazards, and to make the urgent case for disclosure, monitoring and clean-up of DU in Iraq. They include:

Helen Caldicott, president, Nuclear Policy Research Institute, co-founder, Physicians for Social Responsibility

Dan Fahey, Independent researcher and veterans' advocate

Avril McDonald, TMC Asser Institute for International Law in The Hague, co-editor of forthcoming study

Hari Sharma, senior fellow of the Nuclear Policy Research Institute, Professor Emeritus of Chemistry, University of Waterloo

Charles Sheehan-Miles, executive director, Nuclear Policy Research Institute

Jan Olof Snihs, United Nations Environment Program, Swedish Radiation Protection Authority (SSI)

Professor Brian G. Spratt FRS, Royal Society Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, Imperial College London Faculty of Medicine

Tara Thornton, executive director, Military Toxics Project

To request interviews or for more information on depleted uranium, please call Stephen Kent, Kent Communications, at 845-758-0097.

Source: Nuclear Policy Research Institute

http://www.usnewswire.com

CONTACT: Stephen Kent of Kent Communications, 845-758-009

Copyright (C) 2003, U.S. Newswire

News Provided by COMTEX (http://www.comtexnews.com)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-28   16:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Kyle (#124)

It requires that I pay. I'm not going to pay to find out what I already know. If you are insisting that that site concludes differently than all the other truly scientific sources, please post their conclusions.

Liars always have an excuse when they get caught red handed. I would think an educated person like yourself would be interested in hard evidence, but I guess that would make it harder to play your little disinformation games. Better that you stick to Newsmax and WND and Limbaugh.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:57:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Kyle (#126)

Are you unable to differentiate between peer-reviewed science...

You mean like the Health Physical Journal that you are too cheap to sign up for?

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-28   16:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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