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Title: Depleted U - An impromptu interview w/ a Career Tank Specialist
Source: me
URL Source: http://none.com
Published: Apr 27, 2005
Author: Tom007
Post Date: 2005-04-27 22:07:28 by tom007
Keywords: Specialist, impromptu, interview
Views: 2017
Comments: 488

Had an intesting conversation with a man I have known for about 5 months. He delivers to my store, handles alot of cash and is a "straight up" kind of guy. I like him, and I am sure his employer does as well. A steady Eddie man, the kind that makes the country run.

We somehow got talking about the ME, and he mentioned he had been to Egypt, and really did not care for any of it. I asked him how it was that he found himself in the ME and he said he was in the service of the military.

Naturally I wanted to know in what type of service he was in. Well, he was drafted into 'Nam, and did twentyfour years, and tanks were his thing. He started out in a tank designation I did not know of. I know a little about M1A1' and wanted to know some things about them, and the man was very evidently the real deal, no swagger, no he man stories etc. He is who he claims.

After some talk of tactics, guns, how to disable an M1A1, exploding armor, all of which he had the knolwedge of a solider who had spent many years with this type of equipment. He was pretty high up in the system.

Then I asked him about DU. Well turns out he was one of the men on the ground testing it at Aburdeen Proving grounds, shooting various things, like mounds of earth, then digging into it to estimate the ballistics, etc.

Did this many time, and my friend related that one time a DU projectile fragmented into the mound of earth. They were to go dig all the pieces of the remenents out. As he tells me, there was a hole that one of the fragments had made, and as they were poking around, a field mouse was scared up and scampered into that hole made by a fragment.

He just sat back and waited for it to come out-; it didn't. After a few minutes, he saw that it was dead.

He went and got the General of the testing operation, and showed him what he had discovered. The General and his men looked at the situation and told all the testers to go away. For three weeks the site was closed, except to the investigators.

Three weeks later, the investigation was complete. The report said the mouse died of "starvation". My friend looked at me, eye to eye, and laughed. "That mouse damn sure didn't die of starvation", he said emphatically.

He said when the DU rounds hit a tank, he could "see a mushroom cloud", formed (Note, alot of high intensity heat will form a mushroom cloud event).

He said "if you take a giger counter into one of the tanks with DU munitions it will beep like crazy". He said that the explosiom of a DU round into steel was" basically a miniature explosion of a nuclear bomb".

He said they would put goats in the test tanks, and around them. He stated that " for twentyfive meters around the tank, hit by a DU round, all the goats would be dead, ten meters, mangled, turned inside out".

He believed DU dust to be alot more dangerous than the military was allowing.

This man is much more creadible, to me, much more, than the talking hairdoo's reading spin points from the Pentagon.

Draw your own conclusions, this is what I heard today, from a man with incontrovertable creadibility with me. He was there.

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#262. To: tom007, ALL (#0)

Explaining How Depleted Uranium
Is Killing Civilians, Soldiers, Land

Nano-particles pinpointed

By Christopher Bollyn
January 7, 2004, American Free Press

Depleted uranium weapons, and the untold misery they wreak on mankind, are taboo subjects in the mainstream media. This exclusive report should break the media embargo imposed on the American people.

Despite being a grossly under-reported subject in the mainstream, there is intense public interest in depleted uranium (DU) and the damage it inflicts on humankind and the environment.

While American Free Press is actively investigating DU weapons and how they contribute to Gulf War Syndrome, the corporate-controlled press ignores the illegal use of DU and its long-lasting effects on the health of veterans and the public.

In August 2004 American Free Press published a ground-breaking four- part series on DU weapons and the long-term health risks they pose to soldiers and civilians alike. Information provided to AFP by experts and scientists, some of it published for the first time in this paper, has increased public awareness of how exposure to small particles of DU can severely affect human health.

Leuren Moret, a Berkeley-based geo-scientist with expertise in atmospheric dust, corresponds with AFP on DU issues. Recently Moret provided a copy of her letters to a British radiation biologist, Dr. Chris Busby, about how nanometer size particles — less than one-tenth of a micron and smaller — of DU once inhaled or absorbed into the body, can cause long-term damage to one’s health.

Busby is one of the founders of Green Audit, a British organization that monitors companies “whose activities might threaten the environment and health of citizens.”

Moret’s writings were meant to assist Busby in a legal case being heard in the High Court in London where a former defense worker, Richard David, 49, is suing Normal Air Garrett, Ltd., an aircraft parts company now owned by Honeywell Aerospace, claiming exposure to DU on the job has made his life a “living hell.”

David worked as a component fitter on fighter planes and bombers but had to quit due to health problems. He says he developed a cough within weeks of starting work.

Today, David suffers from a variety of symptoms like those known as Gulf War Syndrome, including respiratory and kidney problems, bowel conditions and painful joints. Medical tests reveal mutations to his DNA and damage to his chromosomes, which, he says, could only have been caused by ionizing radiation. He has also been diagnosed with a terminal lung condition.

Honeywell denies DU was ever used at the plant in Yeovil, Somerset, where David worked for 10 years until 1995. David claims that DU’s existence at the plant was denied because it is an official secret.

David has asked the High Court for more time to gather evidence. The hearing is due to resume in April. “I don’t have any legal representation,” David said, “so I am representing myself. It is a real David versus Goliath case.

“I am confident I will win. I hope to set a precedent for other cases of people who have suffered from the effects of depleted uranium,” he said.

Moret’s letters on the particle effect of DU is based on research done by Marion Fulk, a nuclear physical chemist and former scientist with the Manhattan Project and the National Laboratory at Livermore, Calif. Fulk, who has developed a “particle theory” about how DU nano-particles affect human DNA, donates his time and expertise to help bring information about DU to the public.

Asked about Fulk’s particle theory, Busby said it is “quite sound.”

“DU is much more dangerous than they say,” Busby added. “I’ve always said that it contributes significantly to Gulf War Syndrome.”

When Moret’s correspondence to Dr. Busby was posted on the Internet over the New Year’s holiday under the title “How Depleted Uranium Weapons Are Killing Our Troops,” some 6,000 people read the letter in the first two days. The following Monday, a producer from BBC’s Panorama program contacted Moret to arrange an interview.

If the BBC follows up with an investigation on the health effects of DU, it may be hard for the U.S. media to maintain their cover-up. More than 500,000 “Gulf War Era” vets currently receive disability compensation, many of them for a variety of symptoms generally referred to as Gulf War Syndrome. Experts blame DU for many of these symptoms.

“The numbers are overwhelming, but the potential horrors only get worse,” Robert C. Koehler of the Chicago-based Tribune Media Services wrote in an article about DU weapons entitled “Silent Genocide.”

“DU dust does more than wreak havoc on the immune systems of those who breathe it or touch it; the substance also alters one’s genetic code,” Koehler wrote. “The Pentagon’s response to such charges is denial, denial, denial. And the American media is its moral co-conspirator.”

U.S. GOVERNMENT KNOWS

The U.S. government has known for at least 20 years that DU weapons produce clouds of poison gas on impact. These clouds of aerosolized DU are laden with billions of toxic sub-micron sized particles. A 1984 Department of Energy conference on nuclear airborne waste reported that tests of DU anti-tank missiles showed that at least 31 percent of the mass of a DU penetrator is converted to nano-particles on impact. In larger bombs the percentage of aerosolized DU increases to nearly 100 percent, Fulk told AFP.

DU is harmful in three ways, according to Fulk: “Chemical toxicity, radiological toxicity and particle toxicity.”

Particles in the nano-meter (one billionth of a meter) range are a “new breed of cat,” Moret wrote. Because the size of the nano-particles allows them to pass freely throughout the organism and into the nucleus of its cells, exposure to nano-particles causes different symptoms than exposure to larger particles of the same substance.

Internalized DU particles, Fulk said, act as “a non-specific catalyst” in both “nuclear and non-nuclear” ways. This means that the uranium particle can affect human DNA and RNA because of both its chemical and radiological properties. This is why internalized DU particles cause “many, many diseases,” Fulk said.

Asked if this is how DU causes severe birth defects, Fulk said, “Yes.”

MILITARY AWARE

The military is aware of DU’s harmful effects on the human genetic code. A 2001 study of DU’s effect on DNA done by Dr. Alexandra C. Miller for the Armed Forces Radiobiology Research Institute in Bethesda, Md., indicates that DU’s chemical instability causes 1 million times more genetic damage than would be expected from its radiation effect alone, Moret wrote.

Dr. Miller requested that questions be sent in writing and copied to a military spokesman. She did tell AFP that it should be noted that her studies showing that DU is “neoplastically transforming and genotoxic” are based on in vitro cellular research.

Studies have shown that inhaled nano-particles are far more toxic than micro- sized particles of the same basic chemical composition. British toxicopathologist Vyvyan Howard has reported that the increased toxicity of the nano-particle is due to its size.

For example, when mice were exposed to virus-size particles of Teflon (0.13 microns) in a University of Rochester study, there were no ill effects. But when mice were exposed to nano-particles of Teflon for 15 minutes, nearly all the mice died within 4 hours.

“Exposure pathways for depleted uranium can be through the skin, by inhalation, and ingestion,” Moret wrote. “Nano-particles have high mobility and can easily enter the body. Inhalation of nano-particles of depleted uranium is the most hazardous exposure, because the particles pass through the lung-blood barrier directly into the blood.

“When inhaled through the nose, nano-particles can cross the olfactory bulb directly into the brain through the blood brain barrier, where they migrate all through the brain,” she wrote. “Many Gulf era soldiers exposed to depleted uranium have been diagnosed with brain tumors, brain damage and impaired thought processes. Uranium can interfere with the mitochondria, which provide energy for the nerve processes, and transmittal of the nerve signal across synapses in the brain.

“Damage to the mitochondria, which provide all energy to the cells and nerves, can cause chronic fatigue syndrome, Lou Gehrig’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and Hodgkin’s disease.”

Eternal Vigilance

BTP Holdings  posted on  2005-04-28   23:46:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#314. To: BTP Holdings, Jhoffa_, Mr Nuke Buzzcut, Aric2000, robin, crack monkey, Axenolith, christine, tom007, SKYDRIFTER, Dude Lebowski, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Zipporah (#262)

Your 'experts' are not so expert and very obviously biased. They are radical Left wing types 'working' outside of their fields. A quick web search will reveal that you have a geo-scientist and two physicists making medical claims. They are also espousing all sorts of extreme Left stuff unrelated to DU and make their claims sound valid by creating groups with impressive names and websites that are primarily just them.

They also spout obvious lies. The 500,000 disabled US Gulf War I vets claim is absurd. That would be nearly all of them. It would be statistically impossible for that to be true and yet none of the several vets that I know have any medical issues at all. Hell, according to the VA, the VA has only treated less than half that number for ANY condition whatsoever!

The claims about birth defects are unsubstantiated. In some places, these people have claimed that 2/3 of the vets children concieved after the war have birth defects. That DESTROYS any credibility that they may have had; The New England Journal of Medicine:

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/336/23/1650

ABSTRACT

Background There has been suspicion that service in the Persian Gulf War affected the health of veterans adversely, and there have been claims of an increased rate of birth defects among the children of those veterans.

Methods We evaluated the routinely collected data on all live births at 135 military hospitals in 1991, 1992, and 1993. The data base included up to eight diagnoses from the International Classification of Diseases, 9th Revision, Clinical Modification (ICD-9-CM) for each birth hospitalization, plus information on the demographic characteristics and service history of the parents. The records of over 75,000 newborns were evaluated for any birth defect (ICD-9-CM codes 740 to 759, plus neoplasms and hereditary diseases) and for birth defects defined as severe on the basis of the specific diagnoses and the criteria of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Results During the study period, 33,998 infants were born to Gulf War veterans and 41,463 to nondeployed veterans at military hospitals. The overall risk of any birth defect was 7.45 percent, and the risk of severe birth defects was 1.85 percent. These rates are similar to those reported in civilian populations. In the multivariate analysis, there was no significant association for either men or women between service in the Gulf War and the risk of any birth defect or of severe birth defects in their children.

Conclusions This analysis found no evidence of an increase in the risk of birth defects among the children of Gulf War veterans.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-29   15:06:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#317. To: Kyle (#314)

Putz. Your study is dated June, 1997. It's coming on 8 years old. The material you've chosen to ignore is current. Here's a dollar. Buy a clue.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-29   15:11:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#321. To: Jethro Tull (#317)

Putz. Your study is dated June, 1997. It's coming on 8 years old. The material you've chosen to ignore is current. Here's a dollar. Buy a clue.

So what are you saying, Jethro? Do you mean to imply that large numbers of children had RETROACTIVE birth defects in the last few years? Idiot.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-29   15:19:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#323. To: Kyle (#321)

So what are you saying, Jethro?

I'm saying that your 8 year old material is refuted by current data. Take the time to read what folks posted to you.

BTW, can you say Bahhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaa?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-29   15:49:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#325. To: Jethro Tull (#323)

I'm saying that your 8 year old material is refuted by current data. Take the time to read what folks posted to you.

Children can't retroactively have birth defects. What are you saying? Is the NEJM lying? Is whatever looney you're refering to more credible than the NEJM?

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-29   15:59:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#330. To: Kyle (#325)

Children can't retroactively have birth defects

Duh...

Current material on this thread connects DU and birth defects.

Spin dreidel spin.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-29   16:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#333. To: Jethro Tull (#330)

Current material on this thread connects DU and birth defects.

Give me a link to something verifable. Anything referencing back to Moret, Busby, etc. does not qualify. Peer reviewed scientific or medical journals prefered.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-29   16:46:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#352. To: Kyle (#333)

Give me a link to something .

Here's something verifiable. We're getting our asses kicked and it's well deserved. There was a time I actually wanted these guys home, but now I say to those who continue to fight for Bush, stay where you are, your day is coming. The Iraqis have us tied down and the all volunteer military is showing signs of severe strain. I recently read where a 55 year old grandmother is being returned to active duty. This is good. I pray we continue to lose these young and old warmongers. If they want to be in Iraq, they’re brain dead anyway. Good riddance.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-29   17:58:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#364. To: Jethro Tull (#352)

We're getting our asses kicked and it's well deserved. There was a time I actually wanted these guys home, but now I say to those who continue to fight for Bush, stay where you are, your day is coming. The Iraqis have us tied down and the all volunteer military is showing signs of severe strain. I recently read where a 55 year old grandmother is being returned to active duty. This is good. I pray we continue to lose these young and old warmongers. If they want to be in Iraq, they’re brain dead anyway. Good riddance.

You are a sick fuck.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-29   23:15:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#372. To: Kyle (#364)

You are a sick fuck.

Naw. The sick fucks are the ones cheerleading the war. That would be you.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-04-29   23:36:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#380. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#372)

Naw. The sick fucks are the ones cheerleading the war. That would be you.

So you like seeing our troops killed too. Mind if I bring some parents of soldiers to this thread, scum?

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-30   0:03:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#385. To: Kyle (#380)

Mind if I bring some parents of soldiers to this thread, scum?

Ahhh...I consider our troops akin to bungee jumpers. They both know the dangers they face, but do it anyway. Sure, bring the parents here. Let me tell them that Bush killed their kid by lying to the nation. They deserve the truth.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-04-30   0:10:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#391. To: Jethro Tull, FormerLurker, sfvgto, tom007, duckhunter, BrerRabbit, swarthguy, xUSMC0311, Bill D Berger, honway, Aric2000, BeAChooser (#385)

Sure, bring the parents here. Let me tell them that Bush killed their kid by lying to the nation.

That's a furious backpedal you're doing. Now, you want to commiserate w/ them over what Bush is doing to their kids. A few minutes ago, you were reveling in their death:

"...but now I say to those who continue to fight for Bush, stay where you are, your day is coming."

"I pray we continue to lose these young and old warmongers. If they want to be in Iraq, they’re brain dead anyway. Good riddance."

Apparently you don't have the balls to stick w/ your initial position or the balls to change it. So you weasel. What a pathetic punk you are.

Kyle  posted on  2005-04-30   0:21:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#395. To: Kyle (#391)

Kyle, I have a question for you. If you've already answered it I apologize, since I have not read all 400 postings in this thread. My question has to do with the pictures I've seen of horribly deformed babies in Iraq. The claim that has been made is that

1) these births are extremely abnormal and out of the range of statictical normalcy, i.e. there are way more babies being born defective than could ever be explained by natural causes, and that

2) The cause of these birth defects is depleted uranium.

I'd like to know what you think of the birth defects that have been reported, and the reputed cause of these defects. The reason I'm asking is because the pictures I've seen are extremely horrifying, these defects seem to be well outside the realm of anything that could happen naturally in anything more than 1 in 100,000 births, and apparently the rate of these hideously deformed children is much, much higher than that.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-04-30   0:29:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#398. To: Elliott Jackalope (#395)

these defects seem to be well outside the realm of anything that could happen naturally in anything more than 1 in 100,000 births, and apparently the rate of these hideously deformed children is much, much higher than that.

Actually 'Lope, the norm is a LOT higher than that. Additionally, a lot of that stuff was being purported to be caused by the "sanctions" in the intervening years. I'm willing to believe that any number over the "norm" for Iraq is generally due to malnutrition (lack of stuff like folic acid), which was rampant in areas of Iraq pre war and probably continues to this day.

The test of this will be when, if a semblance of normalcy comes around, these defects taper off rapidly (from the increasing dietary stability), or linger further into the future (which would indicate a persistent environmental factor.

Axenolith  posted on  2005-04-30   0:49:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#400. To: Axenolith (#398)

OMG, where did you come from? and why do you post on this forum?

You seem to know what you are talking about, didn't you know that that is against the rules here?

Aric2000  posted on  2005-04-30   0:58:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#407. To: Aric2000 (#400)

OMG, where did you come from? and why do you post on this forum?

You seem to know what you are talking about, didn't you know that that is against the rules here?

OMG maybe I should ask you the same question.. why do you post on this forum? Hmm well if you think not knowing what you are talking about is a criteria for being here..then that must be why you're here..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-30   1:14:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#410. To: Zipporah (#407)

See 409.... OMG, you people are just nuts...

That is probably why I am here, just like a car wreck, it is just hard not to look....

Aric2000  posted on  2005-04-30   2:43:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#417. To: Aric2000 (#410)

See 409.... OMG, you people are just nuts...

That is probably why I am here, just like a car wreck, it is just hard not to look....

You know.. there are fools and there are damned fools and you can be catagorized as the latter.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-30   11:15:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#431. To: Zipporah (#417)

You know.. there are fools and there are damned fools and you can be catagorized as the latter.

I am neither, but I watch quite a few of both here....

So, money is not a motivation for me when I say the DU scare is a load of shit.

Dr. Rokke has MUCH money to be made if he can convince enough people that INDEED, DU is dangerous. LOADS of it, because the US government will get blamed, will be sued, and some stupid idiots on a Jury will declare them guilty and a massive amount of money will be awarded, and guess who will get a piece of that action?

The doctor that made it ALL possible.

So to say that your "expert" is some lily white, neutral man with a professional opinion, tells me that you are blind to such things as long as it matches your prejudices.

Aric2000  posted on  2005-04-30   21:26:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#433. To: Aric2000 (#431)

am neither, but I watch quite a few of both here....

So, money is not a motivation for me when I say the DU scare is a load of shit.

Dr. Rokke has MUCH money to be made if he can convince enough people that INDEED, DU is dangerous. LOADS of it, because the US government will get blamed, will be sued, and some stupid idiots on a Jury will declare them guilty and a massive amount of money will be awarded, and guess who will get a piece of that action?

The doctor that made it ALL possible.

So to say that your "expert" is some lily white, neutral man with a professional opinion, tells me that you are blind to such things as long as it matches your prejudices.

Oh really? Your 'friend' certainly has prejudices and they are tied to money.. have you taken the time to see WHO Dr. Rokke is.. and if you think it's about money for him you are sadly mistaken..

You believe I have prejudices regarding DU or anything else.. you dont know jack shit about me.. I was blind to all the bullshit you are blind to.. and I wised up.. something you may think about trying to do.. instead of calling people on this site NUTS.. well guess what if you think everyone here is nuts..and want to watch as you put it a 'train wreck'.. and that is all the input you have maybe that is what you should do.. just watch..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-30   21:33:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#437. To: Zipporah (#433)

Oh please, study up on the ACTUAL qualities of DU, PLEASE....

Because if you do, it becomes GLARINGLY obvious that it CANNOT do what these people claim that it does.

It is as dangerous as lead, it's radioactivity levels are less dangerous then the material used in glow in the dark markings on your watch.

It is a heavy metal, of course it can be dangerous, and must be used with care, just as lead etc is used with care. BUT, it will not and CANNOT create birth defects of any sort, it will NOT change DNA strands, it cannot and will NOT cause birth defects, the radioactivity is just NOT high enough, and the tetrogenic damage it can cause, DOESN'T HAPPEN. Lead is FAR more dangerous to a fetus then DU ever thought of being.

You're all being paranoid nutcases on this, and it is ALL because the US government is big and EVIIIL in your eyes, and if someone says that DU is dangerous, and it is used by the US government, and therefore they use it when they KNOW it is dangerous, etc, etc ad nauseum, you fruitloops are gonna eat it up.

Aric2000  posted on  2005-04-30   21:40:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#438. To: Aric2000 (#437)

You're all being paranoid nutcases on this, and it is ALL because the US government is big and EVIIIL in your eyes, and if someone says that DU is dangerous, and it is used by the US government, and therefore they use it when they KNOW it is dangerous, etc, etc ad nauseum, you fruitloops are gonna eat it up.

Cya Aric..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-30   21:43:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#441. To: Zipporah (#438)

Cya Aric..

May I assume that Aric2000 has joined kyle in asshole heaven?

I guess it's a waste of time to post to him then.

But of course, it was also a waste of time to post to him when he was here. Same difference I guess.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-04-30   21:49:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#445. To: crack monkey (#441)

May I assume that Aric2000 has joined kyle in asshole heaven?

I guess it's a waste of time to post to him then.

But of course, it was also a waste of time to post to him when he was here. Same difference I guess.

Yep.. safe to assume that.. if anyone wants to contribute here.. great.. fine ..no problem but when they start calling everyone here nuts.. and say that they're here to watch a 'train wreck' hey fine ..let them 'watch'.. since that is what they want..hey I'll be glad to cooperate.. :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-30   21:55:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#448. To: Zipporah (#445)

Yep.. safe to assume that.. if anyone wants to contribute here.. great.. fine ..no problem but when they start calling everyone here nuts.. and say that they're here to watch a 'train wreck' hey fine ..let them 'watch'.. since that is what they want..hey I'll be glad to cooperate.. :P

I still say you are a sweety....

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-04-30   22:00:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#450. To: timetobuildaboat (#448)

I still say you are a sweety....

Hey it was out strictly out of kindness.. ;P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-30   22:02:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#452. To: Zipporah (#450)

His comments smacked of government cohort... or am I just off base considering my inebriated state?

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-04-30   22:06:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#455. To: timetobuildaboat (#452)

His comments smacked of government cohort... or am I just off base considering my inebriated state?

Hmm well not sure about that.. it may be your inebriated state.. I think it could be better catagorized as your basic marching moron.. :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-30   22:08:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#463. To: Zipporah (#455)

You really are a sweet thing and I hop your husband does'nt know where I live.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-04-30   22:24:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#464. To: All (#463)

hop = hope

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-04-30 22:24:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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