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Title: Are biblical spouting “patriots” head cases?
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Published: Jan 23, 2007
Author: me
Post Date: 2007-01-23 09:25:29 by Jethro Tull
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Comments: 308

Yeah, they are. I’m amazed at the arrogance of some self professed “patriot” Christians. IMHO, they do more to fracture those of us who get it than any elitist agenda ever could. They are unwitting foot soldiers of the globalists.

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Their obsessive study of what I consider a book of fiction could rightfully be considered a mental disorder.

Couldn't help but laugh at this line, JT..........its rather hard to find your conclusion meritorious when one realizes you were known as Mr. Spam in another lifetime.....LOL.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-25   22:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Both the Spam issue and the good book are fiction, dee. Neither happened.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-25   23:18:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Other than a comment to JT, I wasn't going to post any comments. However....

Earlier up the thread, you mentioned Serbia. FWIW, I was one at TOS1 at the time we were bombing the hell out of Serbia/Yugoslavia in '99 who was contacting the legislature in an attempt to get the BS stopped. Was also working with a group who was trying to find the real reason for this horrorific action on our part.

But mainly, I want to say, here you are talking down this forum, as though virtually everyone is beneath you........and then when you're shown to be wrong about the inattention to Mr. Webb, you come up with the excuse you were somewhere else defending his literary works. So, you really have no idea what has transpired on this forum regarding Webb--but that doesn't prevent you from making your foolish statement.

Now, rather than even a feeble attempt to apologize for your misunderstanding or not understanding what has occurred here, you'd apparently rather tuck tail and run to the next forum, i.e., KOS.

This, of course, after your obvious misquoting scraper, and refusing to straighten out that misunderstanding.

Having been on TOS1, you should well then know the old saying about the door and all that jazz, right?

You need to dismount from your exceedingly tall horse and develop some communication skills--relax and have some discussions based on what you want the forum to focus on. Different strokes for different folks was a lesson I brought with me thru life from a Leadership and Motivation Seminar I attended.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-25   23:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I didnt know that.....about the fireproofing stuff! I knew about the bullshitter, though.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-25   23:59:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah..........uh huh..........right.

rowdee  posted on  2007-01-26   0:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But a couple of months ago, Webb wasn't a trendy household name as he is today after his rebuttal to the State of the Union speech.

I don't have anything against Webb, but when it comes to candidates for Pres - Ron Paul is hard to beat.

Paul has been the ONLY true voice of reason in congress for many years. He has consistently voted in favor of "Joe Six Pack", has repeatedly called for an audit of America's gold holdings, has repeatedly called for a return of our currency to a gold standard, and is thoroughly aware of the many huge government frauds like the income tax (he was interviewed in Freedom to Fascism on the matter). He was one of only 6(!) to vote "Nay" on the invasion of Iraq. He knows how government has usurped the Constitution, and feels those wrongs need to be "undone" and return to abiding by the Constitution. He is against the Patriot Act, the North American Union, and the Military Commissions Act. I think we'd be hard pressed to do any better.

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-01-26   2:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't have anything against Webb, but when it comes to candidates for Pres - Ron Paul is hard to beat.

I agree with you that Dr. Ron Paul is a quality candidate. But I think he's too old to be attractive to most Americans. And I suspect he's burned too many bridges within the GOP.

Sadly I think Americans are really stuck on youth and image. I think Jim Webb has that Kennedy all American look - he'd be easier to package and sell and he has not been in office or in gov't too long to have burned bridges. Although Webb is known as a bit of a hothead so he might burn bridges in short order too.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-01-26   2:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I agree with you that Dr. Ron Paul is a quality candidate. But I think he's too old to be attractive to most Americans. And I suspect he's burned too many bridges within the GOP.

Very sad but true. As much as I hate to admit it, I think his chances of winning the election are about on par with an ant climbing up an elephant's leg with rape on his mind.

Sadly, the most likely scenario is NOT going to be a real choice at all. Hillary vs McCain or some equally disgusting shit... It's not about who wins the popular vote. Bush lost the popularity contest twice.

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-01-26   2:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I work with the world's leading metallurgists - they agree with the offical conclusions that the fire and impact damage to the steel beams caused the failure.

Why don't you ask your French experts what "impact damage" building 7 suffered that was so great as to cause it's collapse, when buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6 all suffered at least as much if not more impact damage and DID NOT COLLAPSE???

Like I said, just because you have a good education or a high-paying job doesn't mean you have one fucking lick of common sense.

No matter how noble the objectives of a government; if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life, and breeds ill will and suspicion - it is an EVIL government. Eric Hoffer

innieway  posted on  2007-01-26   3:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why don't you ask your French experts what "impact damage" building 7 suffered that was so great as to cause it's collapse, when buildings 3, 4, 5, and 6 all suffered at least as much if not more impact damage and DID NOT COLLAPSE???

Like I said, just because you have a good education or a high-paying job doesn't mean you have one fucking lick of common sense.

But, in order to understand all that tech stuff you have to read the report in the original Greek! ;)

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   3:27:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I didnt know that.....about the fireproofing stuff! I knew about the bullshitter, though.

LMAO!

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   3:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I didn't see your post before I commented. (#152)

Excellent post and you covered it all.

"I don't know how he does it...but I'll tell you the bottom line...

The man got a way with women...HE GOT AWAY WITH MINE!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-01-26   4:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Using the royal we - people who are screaming the WETBACKS are running us over (oh my gawd - there might be some race mixing going on!) as a justification for closing the border get pumped by the media - people like me in my camp that are against immigration be it from Mexico or Poland because of economic reasons get marginalized.

Nobody likes their territory over-run by strangers, it's the way people are.

When the Europeans came to America, the natives who had been here for some time didn't like it for all reasons mentioned. We are all encouraged to bemoan the loss of the Native American culture still, but when present-day Americans complain about Mexicans not assimilating as they take over, they are accused of being low-IQ unenlightened rednecks and so on. It's all part of the plan to demonize anyone who is against the planned demographic change of the US, by inferring that they are ignorant people if they are against it.

People don't like it because of all the reasons mentioned which is normal among people who want to see their genes survive and live on into the future, just like the Native Americans wanted.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   5:10:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't myself agree with the assertion at top of this thread, that people who quote bible are 'head cases'. But people say this out of frustration, and i sure don't blame them for being that way.

I used to be naive in that I believed that if a person was a Christian and went to church that meant they were a good person. I have found out that this is not the case, there are some very cruel and self-rightous so-called Christians out there, people who are nothing like what Jesus said people should be like.

I have run into some downright creepy Christians.

I think a lot of those are not at all sincere and are into it strictly for image (or money if they are crooked preachers).

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   5:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Economic reasons are the only reasons I see posted here.

I'll admit to being somewhat sad that the culture we knew is going, going, gone.

It's okey and even encouraged for other minorities and ethnic groups to embrace their cultures, but if white people want to hold onto their's they are deemed biased, ignorant rednecks.

I'm tired of labels and accusations and pretension, we should not have to give in by being labeled as stupid and evil if we don't like our culture being destroyed and ridiculed.

Blacks are encouraged to embrace black culture, Jews embrace their culture and heritage, Asians the same and so on, but if white Americans want to retain their culture they get called racist and bigoted and to avoid being labeled as such they end up denying their own identity in order to fit in.

It shouldn't have to be that way.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   5:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You have to stretch credibility very much to say Mexican culture is more removed from American culture than say the culture of Greek Americans or Russian Jews or Lebanese Arab Christians or Armenians. Yet these people melded into American culture and contributed greatly to this nation's wealth because their parents could pull themselves out of poverty.

Those groups didn't come to America in great numbers, and they are much more similar to Europeans than Mexicans are, being that they are mostly European.

Not everyone can assimilate completely into any group, to think they can is out of the blank-slate theory of the 1960s which mostly marxist types refuse to let go of even though it's been discredited for some time now.

For instance I am almost certain that Australian Aborigines would have a difficult time assimilating into Japanese society. Look at what a great job (not) the Arab muslims are doing with their assimilition into European culture.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   6:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

America has become a whore house for foreign johns.

“The First Highest Masonic Council was, as we have already said, formed on 31st May 1801 in Charleston, 33 degrees northern latitude, under the chairmanship of the Jew Isaac Long, who was made inspector general by the Jew Moses Cohen, and who had received his degree from Hyes, from Franken, and the Jew Morin.”

noone222  posted on  2007-01-26   6:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I mean once Germanics were considered violent, mindless beasts - so much so that one tribe's ethnic name gave the world the word and concept of 'vandal'.

It always seems to boil down to Germany in the end.

I think we are seeing Eye for an Eye carried out to the extreme.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   7:30:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I mean once Germanics were considered violent, mindless beasts - so much so that one tribe's ethnic name gave the world the word and concept of 'vandal'.

"Vandalism" is from the French vandalisme, which originated during the French revolution. The verb vandalize is first recorded in 1800. The term "vandalism" has come to mean senseless destruction as a result of the Vandals' sack of Rome under King Geiseric in 455. Historians agree that the Vandals were no more destructive than other invaders of ancient times. During the Enlightenment, Rome was idealized, so the Goths and Vandals were disparaged.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   7:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I like both the germans and the french too. I don't what the propaganda says.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-01-26   7:44:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's okey and even encouraged for other minorities and ethnic groups to embrace their cultures, but if white people want to hold onto their's they are deemed biased, ignorant rednecks.

This is an excellent point and one that ticks me off to no end. Multiculturalism is code-speak for the destruction of white culture. Today's American cultural elites deem it acceptable that our Attorney General Gonzalez attend and address the radical group, La Raza (The Race), but should a white person dare listen to David Duke or Jared Taylor, they're classified white separatists. I reject the effort to be made to feel guilty about being pro- white. Such pride is acceptable - and encouraged - among other cultures, therefore it’s only the politically correct among us who feel uncomfortable and they’re nothing more than the enemy within.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   8:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

but should a white person dare listen to David Duke or Jared Taylor, they're classified white separatists

JT, you haven't got the stomach for this at all.

Your cowardice comes from a lifetime of being brainwashed by jooos. That, and your filthy Hibernian genes.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   8:06:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Shoot down a quick Bloody Mary and return when your head stops pounding.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   8:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You aren't going to find perfection on any site.

But any other site counts as less pathetic.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   8:14:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Let me briefly climb on this soap box here and preachify awhile.

Now, I left this 4um in '05, after reaching an epiphany and realizing that 90% percent of my comrades on this site were morons, devoid of two brain cells to rub together, and it was impossible to have an intelligent conversation, among the five or six good posters on the site, in this days, because numbskulls were always intefering. Most posters on this site are both reactionaries and sensationalists by nature. Their hobbies are the hobbies of middle-aged and elderly women: sex gossip, bush bashing, and superfluous conversation. This makes the site quite boring and un-appealing.

Moreover, it further doesn't help that this board is run by women. A board run by women can only reach a certain, low level of prominence. I have said as much to Goldi-lox, on several occassions, on LP, and I have no fear of repeating it here.

So if you are an honest, intelligent and un-feminized member of this site you won't be offended by my frankness, because you will be among the 10% of decent posters.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   8:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Moreover, it further doesn't help that this board is run by women. A board run by women can only reach a certain, low level of prominence.

I understand your hostility considering how all of the women who post here have bested you in any argument you've engaged in. That said, you could always start your own forum. Stone's place is ripe for a hostile take-over. If that doesn't appeal to you, please ring Destro and meander off with him into the sunset like two Brokeback cowboys.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   8:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I understand your hostility considering how all of the women who post here have bested you in any argument you've engaged in.

Where? Post the link, JT.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   8:41:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No need to post them, it's common knowledge. But if that isn't enough for the your inner misogynist, go pick a fight with one of the girls just like you did back in grade school. Yeah, what fun that was, eh?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   8:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No need to post them, it's common knowledge.

Actually, it's bullshit, because I haven't seriously argued with anyone on this board.

Because aside from Burkeman1, the Mad Artist, Destro, and a few others, EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS BOARD ARE my intellectual inferiors. And that includes you.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   8:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Actually, it's bullshit, because I haven't seriously argued with anyone on this board.

Didn't you once say Buckeroo had lots to offer?

Anyway, shit or get off the pot and please stop bullying the women here. It's unbecoming.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   9:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I got the shivers a little while ago when I read the post further up by blackeagle where he pointed out hypothetically that in order to get rid of racism, if all third-worlders would immigrate only to black countries, how that would result in the genocide of the black population living in those black countries.

I never thought of it that way but he is right, and as we all know in reality this scenario is only happening to white countries.

When the Europeans came to the Americas, it pretty much spelled death to the native Americans who had been here for thousands of years.

I've read some material from La Raza, they talk about how the old (?) white people need to go back to Europe and give them their land back, even though indiginous Mexicans lived further south in pre-Columbian times, and TX for instance was inhabited by different tribes who hardly exist now. What I observed from living in TX for quite a few years was once the Mexicans came pouring in, they were not grateful or humble, they didn't try to fit in for the most part, many of them had a defiant attitude, many of them had nothing but comtempt for the gringo/gringa, and already in the early 90s they had radical groups telling them they deserved the land, free this and free that. I got tired of it all, feeling like a stranger in a place I had lived in for some years, and finally left in the late 90s.

Of course where I am now I'm in the minority again, but at least there are only two ethnic groups which makes things much easier, plus Eskimos are gentle people, aggression is taboo in their culture though the trouble-makers in the big cities do all they can to persuade them to hate the few white people in their midst. It doesn't work too well though since cooperation is so important in their culture, as survival is very important in this cold and rugged land, and traditionally difficult people were banished, so after living that way for at least 3000 years it's hard for them to act like jerks. In this sparsely-populated area the white people are like the guests and do their best to fit in and learn the customs like living off the land and sharing resources. The two groups get along well except for maybe a short period after the yearly hate-white-people convention in Anchorage put on by the radicals, who are not Eskimos or from any of the other Alaska native tribes.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   9:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Their hobbies are the hobbies of middle-aged and elderly women: sex gossip,

LOLOLOL!!!

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   9:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Their hobbies are the hobbies of middle-aged and elderly women: sex gossip, bush bashing, and superfluous conversation.-- Redheadedstranger

That was great.

I want to make this my new tagline, it will be my first one.

Diana  posted on  2007-01-26   9:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It's okey and even encouraged for other minorities and ethnic groups to embrace their cultures, but if white people want to hold onto their's they are deemed biased, ignorant rednecks.

I'm tired of labels and accusations and pretension, we should not have to give in by being labeled as stupid and evil if we don't like our culture being destroyed and ridiculed.

Blacks are encouraged to embrace black culture, Jews embrace their culture and heritage, Asians the same and so on, but if white Americans want to retain their culture they get called racist and bigoted and to avoid being labeled as such they end up denying their own identity in order to fit in.

your comments are right on...

christine  posted on  2007-01-26   9:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Didn't you once say Buckeroo had lots to offer?

Buck is a respected and model poster at LF. He posts there regularly, now.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   9:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So if you are an honest, intelligent and un-feminized member of this site you won't be offended by my frankness, because you will be among the 10% of decent posters.

Bored?

I can't think of any other reason you'd post this drivel other than to get an inflammatory reaction to liven up a boring day.

Try video games.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-26   9:24:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Let me briefly climb on this soap box here and preachify awhile.

Now, I left this 4um in '05,

And by the way...

Apparently you didn't.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2007-01-26   9:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I can't think of any other reason you'd post this drivel other than to get an inflammatory reaction to liven up a boring day.

YOu haven't been paying attention, one of my hobbies is baiting 4um posters.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   9:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Apparently you didn't.

I'm on a comeback tour.

"How legitimate is the Onion as a source?"----noone222

Redheadedstranger  posted on  2007-01-26   9:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

blackeagle

I agree, he expressed my thoughts exactly. The people supporting open borders are the same ones who gave us forced busing in the 60s. I was living in NYC when that scheme was launched and it fueled white flight to the suburbs and balkanized the city. It remains that way today, only it's worsened. Given that lack of success, it's only reasonable (not) that the elites force this integration on the scale of nations. We're old enough to remember the fall of white South Africa. Now Great Britain is a mixed mess, and last night I posted an article on Australia and it's failed attempt to assimilate races. Since the track record of forced integration is failure, my only conclusion is that this unfettered illegal invasion is an attempt to foster the destruction or our nation and culture. I still remain amazed at the naiveté of some Americans. The invaders aren’t quiet about their goals or hatred of whites, yet some otherwise reasonable folk choose to look the other way while our land is reclaimed block by block, city by city, all in the name of the NAU. When, and if, they wake up it just might be too late.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-01-26   9:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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