Strawman. Is that all 4umers have in their debate toolkit?
Split hairs over definitions.
Spam non-answers repeatedly, post after post.
Call the other person or his source a liar.
Demand additional proof.
Change the subject.
That's all you have.
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
"Four years after the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, nearly 9 of 10 Iraqis say they live in fear that the violence ravaging their country will strike themselves and the people with whom they live. Just 5% say they worry "hardly at all" about the safety of those in their household..."
There was very little trust in U.S. and British troops. By a ratio of more than 4-to-1 82%-to-18% Iraqis surveyed said they had little confidence in coalition forces.
So you cite a poll that says that 49% of Iraqis - less than a majority and the majority of them Shiites - say they prefer Maliki - who is *supposed* to be independent of American control.
That means 51% of Iraqis - more than a majority - say Maliki is either worse, just as bad, or refused to answer.
And that means things are getting better to a 'botspammer.
Meanwhile, 90% of Iraqis say they live in fear of their safety, and by 4 to 1 they don't trust either US or British forces.
You've been whacked again, troll.
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
Oh I see - now you want to smear me, not just DR. Rokke.
Smear Rokke? No, just tell the whole story. Smear you? No, I just wanted you to post a link to the material you were claiming about his military career so we could know where you got it. I'm sorry if I offended you by suggesting the link might not exist. Maybe you should just have cited Wikipedia to begin with?
Well, I can't say I'm surprised - so much for your promise to be polite and civil. Ahem. There goes yet another promise to christine and freedom4um posters. Drum roll - are there any promises left from the list you gave us in February that you have not broken yet - zero, I'll bet.
Why don't you just post a link to my promise so readers can make their own judgment regarding my civility and politeness ... in the face of what has decidedly not been civil or polite behavior by most 4umers.
Poll respondents also said they've seen little progress on reconstruction as a result of billions of dollars in U.S. aid spent since the March 2003 invasion.
By a 2-1 margin, Iraqis called those efforts "ineffective."
The lack of security and basic utilities have made daily life more difficult. "I don't attend the college regularly for security reasons," says Ibrahim Mahdi Al Husaini, 19, a Sunni student. "There is no electricity, so how can I study?"
He is uncertain whether he'll be able to finish his studies and unsure whether he can manage to leave Iraq.
"Overall I am depressed all the time," he said.
About 33% saw "effective" reconstruction efforts, while 67% 15 percentage points higher than in a similar ABC News survey taken in November 2005 called them "ineffective."
Nearly one in 10 said they hadn't seen any reconstruction efforts
begun."
You were saying?
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
And even if that were true, are you aware that 43% means 57% - a majority - believes otherwise?
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
"Iraqis by 43%-36% said life was better than before the invasion."
Where?
And even if that were true,
Don't you believe your own poll?
are you aware that 43% means 57% - a majority - believes otherwise?
This is from the poll your source cited:
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2. Compared to the time before the war in spring 2003, are things overall in your life much better now, somewhat better, about the same, somewhat worse or much worse?
3/5/07 NET Better 43% Much Better 14% Somewhat Better 29% Same 22% NET Worse 36% Somewhat Worse 28% Much Worse 8% No Opinion 0
11/22/05 NET Better 51% Much Better 21% Somewhat Better 31% Same 19% NET Worse 29% Somewhat Worse 19% Much Worse 10% No Opinion 1%
2/28/04 NET Better 56% Much Better 22% Somewhat Better 35% Same 23% NET Worse 19% Somewhat Worse 13% Much Worse 6% No Opinion 2%
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Now the interesting thing about the above is that you were still against the war back in 2/28/04 when 59% of the populace said things were better and only 19% said things were worse than during Saddam. Leading one to wonder if you really do care about what the Iraqis think.
Your reply is a typical performance of your convoluted mental processes.
Your original statement was an allegation that thousands were dying under Saddam and asking are "things" worse.
In that context, a person with normal English comprehension will interpret "things" as referring to life-and-death issues.
Given that context, I said "things" are worse and cited a recent poll saying that almost 90% of Iraqis fear for their personal safety. An incredibly disturbing number to anybody with a conscience - which rules you out.
Then you bring in a poll that says that slightly less than half of Iraqis like their Prime Minister, many of them because he's a member of their ethnic group. So now your definition of "things" has changed from its former life-and-death and personal safety, to "Do you like the current political leader in Baghdad."
But now in your latest cyber-dropping, "things" has once again changed to "Overall in your life," as in "How do you feel about everything in general" from from its former life-and-death, and then politics.
So you really have said nothing of any substance, because your definitions change every time you post.
Finally, your citing 59% of the populace saying that "things were better in 2004" does not address the issue of whether 59% of the populace welcomed the foreign invaders and occupiers at that time. Because they didn't.
"Things were better in 2004" could mean nothing more than "Do you have more consumer goods because the economic embargo against Iraq has now been lifted."
So you're just serving up more loads of your off-topic, beside-the point spam, that is your stock in trade.
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
#231. To: BeAChooser, SKYDRIFTER, scrapper2, robin (#230)(Edited)
Glad you're so easily amused, Looser.
You're just getting your own meandering mental masturbations read back to you.
BeAWeasel: Thousands were dying week in and week out under Saddam. So have things really gotten any worse?
AGA: According to the people of Iraq, yes...[Cites poll saying 9 out of 10 Iraqis now fear for their personal safety].
BeAWeasel: But my poll here says that 49% of Iraqis like their new Prime Minister.
AGA: The same poll says by a margin of 4 to 1 that Iraqis don't like US or British troops in their country.
BeAWeasel: But the poll also says that 43% of Iraqis think that "things in your life are better now than before."
AGA: 43% happens to be less than half, which means that more than half believes the contrary.
BeAWeasel: 2004 58% say life is better, 2005 51% say life is better, 2006 43% say life is better.
AGA: What do less than half liking the Prime Minister, and less than half saying that life in better in general, have to do with "things getting worse" with respect to people dying.
BeAWeasel: ROTFLOL!
AGA: Up yours, troll.
Just because [Christine] exercises this type of tolerance for the absurd (ie. you)...doesn't mean she has to smell your droppings up close. - Scrapper2 to BeALooser
Thank you for taking the time to further expose the dishonesty of BAC.
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes nor between parties either but right through the human heart." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
You're response should have been directed by Milo Bloom...
Sorry ... my mistake ...
Still waiting for that UBL interview...
war, I got the idea there was an interview from sources like this: http://www.inq7.net/wnw/2002/sep/06/text/wnw_4-1-p.htm, "Lawyers who drafted the suit relied on an Iraqi newspaper article published on July 21, 2001 in the city of Al Nasiriyah, in which columnist Naeem Abd Muhalhal quotes bin Laden as saying he is thinking about bombing the Pentagon after he destroys the White House." Now I assumed that meant an interview took place. But if one didn't, then you need to explain to me how this Iraqi journalist, writing in a paper owned by Uday, managed to guess the three US facilities that would be targeted on 9/11, just few months later? Talk about "coincidences" ...
BeAChooser posted on 2003-09-19 16:09:25 ET ReplyTrace
According to http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/05/september11/main520874.shtml, "The lawsuit alleges that Iraqi officials were aware, before Sept. 11, of plans by bin Laden to attack New York and the Pentagon. ... snip ... "We have evidence Iraq knew and approved of the Sept. 11 targets," he said. It relies in part on a newspaper article published July 21, 2001, in Al Nasiriyah, 185 miles southwest of Baghdad. The law firm provided The Associated Press with a copy of the article written in Arabic and an English translation. According to the lawsuit, a columnist writing under the byline Naeem Abd Muhalhal described bin Laden thinking "seriously, with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert, about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House." The columnist also allegedly wrote that bin Laden was "insisting very convincingly that he will strike America on the arm that is already hurting," a possible reference to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. The lawsuit says a former associate of Muhalhal contends the writer has been connected with Iraqi intelligence since the early 1980s. It also says Muhalhal was praised by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in the Sept. 1, 2001, issue for his "documentation of important events and heroic deeds that proud Iraqis have accomplished." Kreindler said Muhalhal had advance knowledge of al Qaeda's specific targets on Sept. 11 and that "Iraqi officials were aware of plans to attack American landmarks." Muhalhal also wrote in the paper, which btw was owned by Saddam's son Qusay, that Bin Laden would "curse Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs", apparently a reference to the song New York, New York. Mulhalhal went on to write that, The wings of a dove and the bullet are all but one and the same in the heart of a believer." which perhaps references an airplane attack."
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BeAChooser posted on 2007-03-14 1:05:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
[nc - blue font added. All other emphasis as in original.]
When reviewing the nonsense propaganda jokes spewed by BAC, one is tempted to ask, "Stop me if you've heard this one."
Naturally, the link in LP #24 goes nowhere. And BAC would not consider citing the original source material. This propaganda says what he wanted to spew.
Let us see how many stretches of the imagination were squeezed in there.
this Iraqi journalist, quotes bin Laden as saying he is thinking about bombing the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.
Uhhhh... really?
Where in the article did the alleged Iraqi intelligence agent Naeem Muhalhal "quote" bin Laden saying he would attack anything?
Interview? Where does the article say OBL was interviewed? There isn't even an inferred interview.
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This farce got even better in the re-telling at #127.
The part in BLUE is not in the CBS article at all. In #24 the newspaper was owned by Uday. In #127, BAC states as fact that it was owned by Qusay. Most sources seem to say it was state run.
"Muhalhal also wrote in the paper, which btw was owned by Saddam's son Qusay, that Bin Laden would "curse Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs", apparently a reference to the song New York, New York."
The quote in blue does not derive from the CBS article and was provided by BAC.
There is no evidence provided to support the BAC ASSERTION that the newspaper was owned by Saddam's son Qusay. Uday was known to be a newspaper owner, if not the owner of that newspaper.
OBL was really irked by the old country classic, I got tears in my ears from lying on my back crying over you, baby.
The "wings of a dove" comment is a statement of Muhalhal to OBL, directly attributed by Muhalhal to himself.
It clearly refers to that other old country classic, by Ferlin Husky.
On the wings of a snow-white dove He sends His pure sweet love A sign from above (sign from above) On the wings of a dove (wings of a dove)
When troubles surround us, when evils come The body grows weak (body grows weak) The spirit grows numb (spirit grows numb) When these things beset us, He doesn't forget us He sends down His love (sends down His love) On the wings of a dove (wings of a dove)
[snip]
This is clearly a reference to OBL feeling his body growing weak, his spirit was growing numb, and he was just growing weary of dragging that damn dailysis machine all over the Tora Bora mountains. And so, it is clear, in the end OBL had found Jesus in his heart and OBL is now filled with His pure, sweet love, sent down to OBL "on the wings of a dove."
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From the actual article by alleged Iraqi intelligence agent Muhalhal:
They still hope that he could come out from his nest one day, they hope that he would come out from his hiding hole and one day they will point at him their missiles and he will join Guevara, Hassan Abu Salama, Kamal Nasser, Kanafani and others. The man responds with a thin smile and replies to the correspondent from Al Jazeera that he will continue to be the obsession and worry of America and the Jews, and that even that night he will practice and work on an exercise called "How Do You Bomb the White House."
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The phenomenon of Bin Ladin is a healthy phenomenon in the Arab spirit. It is a decision and a determination that the stolen Arab self has come to realize after it got bored with promises of its rulers: After it disgusted itself from their abomination and their corruption, the man had to carry the book of God and the Kalashnikov and write on some off white paper "If you are unable to drive off the Marines from the Kaaba, I will do so." It seems that they will be going away because the revolutionary Bin Ladin is insisting very convincingly that he will strike America on the arm that is already hurting.
The first quote appears as an imaginary conversation OBL might have with al Jazeera.
The assertion about the "arm that is already hurting" is the words of the alleged Iraqi Intelligence agent Naeem Abd Muhalhal.
It is a bunch of imaginary propaganda bullshit. It probably originated in the Department of Yellowcake.
Like most of the trash that BAC dredges up.
NAEEM ABD MUHALHAL ARTICLE PREDICTING 9-11
For Senate text version: Open Congressional Record: Open 107th Congress Open Senate, September 12 Open 15. HOMELAND SECURITY ACT OF 2002 Open Page 8525
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD September 12, 2002 Pages S8525 - S8526
Mr. HOLLINGS. So what you have, in January of 2000, is not only the informant, the CIA had the information. Again, like I said, they did not communicate it. The dots are never going to get joined. I can see poor Condoleezza Rice standing up and saying: We didn't have anything specific. We didn't have anything specific. She will never get anything specific. She will not get a phone call saying, ``We are coming,'' like we have already called Saddam with. We have told him, "We are coming." But that is not the way the world works with the al-Qaida crowd.
So right to the point, on July 10, 2001, the FBI learned about the Phoenix, AZ, flight school. A memo was sent to the FBI. But it stopped at midlevel--never communicated to the White House, never communicated to the CIA. Again, the dots not joined. I can tell you that right here and now.
Here is a news story from July 21, 2001, before 9/11 of last year, in the Iraqi news. The name of that particular newspaper is Al-Nasiriya.
Quoting from it:
Bin Ladin has become a puzzle and a proof also, of the inability of the American federalism and the CIA to uncover the man and uncover his nest. The most advanced organizations of the world cannot find the man and continues to go in cycles in illusion and presuppositions.
It refers to an exercise called "How Do You Bomb the White House." They were planning it.
Let me read this to all the colleagues here:
The phenomenon of Bin Ladin is a healthy phenomenon in the Arab spirit. It is a decision and a determination that the stolen Arab self has come to realize after it got bored with promises of its rulers; After it disgusted itself from their abomination and their corruption, the man had to carry the book of God ..... and write on some white paper "If you are unable to drive off the Marines from the Kaaba, I will do so." It seems that they will be going away because the revolutionary Bin Ladin is insisting very convincingly that he will strike America on the arm that is already hurting.
In other words, the World Trade Towers. Here, over a year ahead of time in the open press in Iraq, they are writing that this man is planning not only to bomb the White House, but where they are already hurting, the World Trade Towers.
I ask unanimous consent to print this article in the RECORD.
There being no objection, the material was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows:
[From Al-Nasiriya, July 21, 2001]
America, an Obsession Called Osama Bin Ladin (By Naeem Abd Muhalhal)
Osama Bin Ladin says that he took from the desert its silence and its anger at the same time.
He has learned how to harm America and has been able to do it, for he gave a bad reputation to the Pentagon as being weakened in more than one spot in the world. In order to follow one step taken by Bin Ladin America has put to work all its apparatus, its computers and its satellites just as the governor cowboy of Texas has done. Bin Ladin's name has been posted on all the internet sites and an amount of $5 million dollars has been awarded to anyone who could give any information that would lead to the arrest of this lanky, lightly bearded man. In this man's heart you'll find an insistence, a strange determination that he will reach one day the tunnels of the White House and will bomb it with everything that is in it.
We all know that every age has its revolutionary phenomenon. In Mexico there was Zapata. In Bolivia there was Che Guevara, during the seventies came out Marcos and the Red Brigades in Italy, the Baader Meinhof Gang in Germany and there was Leila Khaled the Palestinian woman and others. They all appeared in violence and disappeared quietly. During the nineties Bin Ladin came out in the open having been completely overtaken in his mind by the robbery happening to his country and its treasurers. For him it was the beginning of the revolution. For this endeavor he mobilized everything that he had of money, of investments and Sudan was his first stop. Bin Ladin ended up in Afghanistan where his revolutionary drive pushed this stubborn revolutionary to plan very carefully, and in a very detailed manner, his stand to push back the boastful American onslaught and to change the American legend into a bubble of soap.
Because Bin Ladin knows what causes pain to America, he played America's game, just as an oppressed man entertains itself with the thing oppressing him. He countered with the language of dynamite and explosives in the city of Khobar and destroyed two US embassies in Nairobi and Dar al Salaam.
America says, admitting just like a bird in the midst of a tornado, that Bin Ladin is behind the bombing of its destroyer in Aden. The fearful series of events continues for America and the terror within America gets to the point that the Governor of Texas increases the amount of the award, just as the stubbornness of the other man and his challenge increases. This challenge makes it such that one of his grandchildren comes from Jeddah traveling on the official Saudi Arabia airlines and celebrates with him the marriage of one of the daughters of his companions. Bin Ladin has become a puzzle and a proof also, of the inability of the American federalism and the C.I.A. to uncover the man and uncover his nest. The most advanced organizations of the world cannot find the man and continues to go in cycles in illusion and presuppositions. They still hope that he could come out from his nest one day, they hope that he would come out from his hiding hole and one day they will point at him their missiles and he will join Guevara, Hassan Abu Salama, Kamal Nasser, Kanafani and others. The man responds with a thin smile and replies to the correspondent from Al Jazeera that he will continue to be the obsession and worry of America and the Jews, and that even that night he will practice and work on an exercise called "How Do You Bomb the White House." And because they know that he can get there, they have started to go through their nightmares on their beds and the leaders have had to wear their bulletproof vests.
Meanwhile America has started to pressure the Taliban movement so that it would hand them Bin Ladin, while he continues to smile and still thinks seriously, with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House .....
The phenomenon of Bin Ladin is a healthy phenomenon in the Arab spirit. It is a decision and a determination that the stolen Arab self has come to realize after it got bored with promises of its rulers: After it disgusted itself from their abomination and their corruption, the man had to carry the book of God and the Kalashnikov and write on some off white paper "If you are unable to drive off the Marines from the Kaaba, I will do so." It seems that they will be going away because the revolutionary Bin Ladin is insisting very convincingly that he will strike America on the arm that is already hurting. That the man will not be swayed by the plant leaves of Whitman nor by the "Adventures of Indiana Jones" and will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs. This new awareness of the image that Bin Ladin has become gives shape to the resting areas and stops for every Arab revolutionary. It is the subject of our admiration here in Iraq because it shares with us in a unified manner our resisting stand, and just as he fixes his gaze on the Al Aqsa we greet him. We hail his tears as they see the planes of the Western world taking revenge against his heroic operations by bombing the cities of Iraq .....
To Bin Ladin I say that revolution, the wings of a dove and the bullet are all but one and the same thing in the heart of a believer.
It seems to me that ol' Brer Rabbit did his best to show the Flying Monkey Squads of Jew Zionists and Marxists as the owners of the Lllll Pee propaganda site.
IMO he did what he set out to do and forced many people to look and think about what he calls rightly the Shadow Government.
He also showed up the shilling of the low-life goldi-sally.
As a parting series of shots until goldie could claim a timeout when the account was actually retired, he also left many nuggets that do AGITATE for people to look, think and learn.
to quote from Brer Rabbit,
" The Two-Headed Hydra of the Jewish Zionist-Marxist IS the Shadow Government. This Regime of Dictators will never allow any person like Ron Paul to even be put on the ballot."
Probabvly as a lurker, understanding Mr. Rabbit's goals at Lllll Pee , I think he did a pretty damned good job and left a lot of disciples in that Jew Crew Nest of vipers.
As a lurker like yourself, let's keep all our fraternal handshakes to ourselves. OK? (-:
#239. To: Hayek Fan, *None Dare Call It Treason* (#0)
Does anyone remember the US Navy Officer that was apprehended in Canada before 9-11, with an envelope? Remember he told the people who took him in to keep it safe, and open it after 9-11? Nobody ever talks about that guy, and nobody ever talks about the contents of that envelope.
DOES ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER THAT???
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
#244. To: AGAviator, robin, Christine, SKYDRIFTER, Diana, HOUNDDAWG, Zipporah, All (#65)
#65. To: BeAChooser (#64) No, that would be these
Post #92 "Since 9/11, the GDP of the US has increased by something on the order of 2 TRILLION dollars a year." BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 07 02:13:00 ET
Post #111
"You clearly made the claim that the rise in government expenditures was responsible for the tremendous increase in GDP (to the tune of 2 billion a year) by the end of the five years since 9/11." BeALooser posted on 2006-11-07 19:39:19 ET
Post #122
"You made the claim that the 2 trillion dollar increase per year in GDP is mostly government spending." BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 08 12:51:48 ET
Post #122
"Yet, the GDP has gone from about 10 billion to about 12 billion a year ... a 20 percent increase" BeALooser posted on 2006-11- 08 12:51:48 ET
Post #137
Obviously I meant $2 trillion" BeALooser posted on 2006-11-09 10:28:44 ET
Post #147
So I accidently wrote billion instead of trillion a few times
BeALooser posted on 2006-11-12 20:25:08 ET
Post #83
I suspect all of us at one time or another in the heat of a debate [!!] have switched billions and millions and even trillions.
BeALooser posted on 2006-12-01 19:19:29 ET
Post #151
Total government spending was roughly 2.75 trillion dollars. A 33 percent increase would amount to 900 million BeALooser posted on 2006-11-12 22:48:21 ET
Post #154
"OK. So I was wrong...Big deal. " BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET
Post #154
But it is clearly what I meant" [!!] BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET
Post #154
So my language was sloppy. Sue me." BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:34 ET
Post #158
I meant billion. Sue me." BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:25:26 ET
Post #158
I'm just tired" BeALooser posted on 2006-11-13 00:25:26 ET
Post #231
You were off by a factor of a thousand.
Yet, intelligent people [!!] still knew what I meant. Still could see my point. They could tell I just transposed two similar words in the rush to respond to you
BeALooser posted on 2006-11-30 14:39:06 ET
"You tell us when that civil war happens because so far there is no sign of it."
BeALooser posted on 2006-06-30 01:48:13 ET
"Iraqi units made up of Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis are routinely operating together quite well"
BeALooser posted on 2006-06-30 01:48:13 ET
"American soldiers are going to die whether we are in Iraq or not. That's one of the facts the American public needs to face.."
BeALooser posted on 2006-12-28 13:30:47 ET
"No one is being fooled by your claiming 9 KIA a day (which isn't close to the actual situation on average, btw) is unsustainable for a country the size of the United States."
BeALooser posted on 2006-06-29 19:16:07 ET
I think you are a K**K if you think a country this size can't sustain 9 KIA a day in a global war."
BeALooser posted on 2007-01-21 17:27:20 ET AGAviator posted on 2007-03-11 4:48:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
And this is the 'serious poster, who doesn't call names, who only tries to put forth facts and correct 'misinformation', and use reason and/or logic, blah blah blah? Really.........
Sure is funny how this person brushes off his faux paux as just a teeny weeny error made in the excitement of the heat of 'debate'.........while it was within the past couple of months this person was excoriating and questioning the credibility of LT. ? Karen Kwatewski's (sp ????) heat of the scared shitless moment in the immediate aftermath of the Pentagon's 9/11 estimated hole size as so horrible/evil/wrong that it should be placed in the category of something akin to having signed and carried out the death warrants of millions of people like Stalin or whomever!!
Sheesh......how much more obvious can it get, folks........? He attempts to make a joke out of this forum, and way too many buy into the bullcrappy. There's a dilemma.....let him post and someone has to be on guard 24/7 to try to keep the bullcrappy honest and yet at the same time, a post to this person is what he eats, sleeps, and breathes for--ignore it and you have false bullcrappy [govt. sponsored no doubt] 'facts' spread thru the internet world being paid for by a couple of patriotic ladies. Makes no sense to me.
BTW, AGAviator, you've provided information that should be mandatorily posted on every single thing this person posts on this forum. Kudos to you.
Those quotes you posted by BeAChooser are interesting.
Some time ago I went over to read on LP, before he got thrown off there, and the comments he was making did not sound like him, I almost wondered if a replacement was taking over for him so he could go on vacation. These comments from him you posted above sound like the "other" BeAChooser. Something fishy there.
I agree completely about BAC, he is pure pioson and is here by design. He should be banned.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
You didn't read the caveat at the top of the post - did you, stupid?
Now you rant about something that makes you look like a BIGGER FOOL than you are.
Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-06-03 23:50:25 ET
So, old Sally is doing ad hominem attacks. Some moderator/forum owner she is.
Elpee, the urinal of the Internet. How nice of her to play the spash guard in it.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
Good to see you again my dear. It's always a pleasure to see you. ;-)
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
I think it's past time for BAC to go. The lies, distortion and thread spamming do NOT add to this 4um in any way.
They do expose how the BushBots and the Bush crime family think, but if we want that we can go read Goldi's comments or anyone on FR.
I agree with Robin and, as I told him, I grew weary of allowing him to use OUR forum for his shilling, lies and propaganda. Further, his entertainment value ceased.
Especially after tom007 started posting about what happened to his nephew and the many others who will be disabled and will suffer for the rest of their lives. BeAChooser showed indeed he is cold-hearted, and sinister by his attitude towards that. I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt, but it finally sunk in that this is not a good individual. It sounds like he is gone from what I am reading here, at one point I would have been unhappy over that as I don't like anyone to be banned, but he was beyond hope, beyond redemption IMO. That part of the brain that has a conscience was missing in him.
#255. To: Diana, christine, Beachooser, all (#253)
BeAChooser showed indeed he is cold-hearted, and sinister ... I kept giving him the benefit of the doubt, but it finally sunk in that this is not a good individual.
Ooooooooooser is a ghoul and I have told him so on more than one occaision. His chief value on a forum such as this is as a reminder of what decent people oppose and why.
Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. - Ambrose Bierce, The Devils Dictionary
"Probabvly as a lurker, understanding Mr. Rabbit's goals at Lllll Pee , I think he did a pretty damned good job and left a lot of disciples in that Jew Crew Nest of vipers."
Now I understand having seen how obsessed you are with Brother bun buns in your first posts here. The likelihood is that you are him. You masked that manner of puctuation when you were new here. But then when you were feeling more secure, you went back to the same manner of double spacing your punctuation away from the verbiage in a sentence, much as brerbub bubs does.
You also used exactly the same attack points brerrabbit used when arguing with me. Very very few people over the last nine years have been like you and brother bun buns in how you percieve me and attack.
There of course is a chance I an wrong in this guess, but I hope you stick around as you no doubt will continue to reval yourself, your true self that is that we all know weel from watching you work at el pee.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.