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Title: Border Patrol told to stand down in Arizona (To Undercut Minutemen -FULL STORY)
Source: THE WASHINGTON TIMES
URL Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/func ... ?StoryID=20050513-122032-5055r
Published: May 13, 2005
Author: Jerry Seper
Post Date: 2005-05-13 01:23:21 by OKCSubmariner
Keywords: Minutemen, Undercut, Arizona
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Comments: 26

U.S. Border Patrol agents have been ordered not to arrest illegal aliens along the section of the Arizona border where protesters patrolled last month because an increase in apprehensions there would prove the effectiveness of Minuteman volunteers, The Washington Times has learned.

More than a dozen agents, all of whom asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, said orders relayed by Border Patrol supervisors at the Naco, Ariz., station made it clear that arrests were "not to go up" along the 23-mile section of border that the volunteers monitored to protest illegal immigration.

"It was clear to everyone here what was being said and why," said one veteran agent. "The apprehensions were not to increase after the Minuteman volunteers left. It was as simple as that."

Another agent said the Naco supervisors "were clear in their intention" to keep new arrests to an "absolute minimum" to offset the effect of the Minuteman vigil, adding that patrols along the border have been severely limited.

Border Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar at the agency's Washington headquarters called the accusations "outright wrong," saying that supervisors at the Naco station had not blocked agents from making arrests and that the station's 350 agents were being "supported in carrying out" their duties.

"Border Patrol agents are the front line of defense against terrorism," Chief Aguilar said, adding that the 11,000 agents nationwide are "meeting that challenge, head-on ... as daunting a task as that may sound."

The chief -- a former head of the agency's Tucson sector, which includes the Naco station -- said that with the world watching the Arizona border because of the Minuteman Project, agents in Naco "demonstrated flexibility and resilience in carrying out their critical homeland security duties and responsibilities."

But Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican, yesterday said "credible sources" within the Border Patrol also had told him of the decision by Naco supervisors to keep new arrests to a minimum, saying he was angry but not surprised.

"It's like telling a cop to stand by and watch burglars loot a store but don't arrest any of them," he said. "This is another example of decisions being made at the highest levels of the Border Patrol that are hurting morale and helping to rot the agency from within.

"I worry about our efforts in Congress to increase the number of agents," he said. "Based on these kinds of orders, we could spend the equivalent of the national debt and never have secure borders."

Mr. Tancredo, chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, blamed the Bush administration for setting an immigration enforcement tone that suggests to those enforcing the law that he is not serious about secure borders.

"We need to get the president to come to grips with the seriousness of the problem," he said. "I know he doesn't like to utter the words, 'I was wrong,' but if we have another incident like September 11 by people who came through our borders without permission, I hope he doesn't have to say 'I'm sorry.' "

During the Minuteman vigil, Border Patrol supervisors in Arizona discounted their efforts, saying a drop in apprehensions during their protest was because of the Mexican government's deployment of military and police south of the targeted area and a new federal program known as the Arizona Border Control Initiative that brought manpower increases to the state.

The Naco supervisors blamed the volunteers for unnecessarily tripping sensors, disturbing draglines and interfering with the normal operations of the agents. They said that their impact on illegals was "negligible" and that civilians should leave immigration enforcement "to the professionals."

Several field agents credited the volunteers with cutting the flow of illegal aliens in the targeted Naco area, saying the number of apprehended illegals dropped from an average of 500 a day to less than 15 a day.

More than 850 volunteers, in a protest of the lax immigration enforcement policies of the White House and Congress, sought to reduce the flow of illegal aliens along a popular immigration corridor on the Arizona-Mexico border near Naco by reporting illegals to the Border Patrol as they crossed into the United States.

Their goal was to show that increased manpower on the border would effectively deter illegal immigration. Organizers said the protest resulted in Border Patrol arrests of 349 illegal aliens.

Area residents, in a half-page ad in the Sunday edition of the Sierra Vista Herald, told the volunteers: "Thanks for doing what our government won't -- close the border to illegal aliens. It was the quietest month we've had in many years ... You made us feel safe because the border was closed."

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#1. To: OKCSubmariner (#0)

Area residents, in a half-page ad in the Sunday edition of the Sierra Vista Herald, told the volunteers: "Thanks for doing what our government won't -- close the border to illegal aliens. It was the quietest month we've had in many years ... You made us feel safe because the border was closed."

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tom007  posted on  2005-05-13   1:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine, Arator, Burkeman1, FormerLurker, Neil McIVer, TommyTheMadArtist, tom007, Uncle Bill, who knows what evil, Red Jones, robin, Zipporah, swarthyguy, honway, Sparker, Fred Mertz, MUDDOG, continental op, itisa1mosttoolate, CWRWinger (#0)

Homeland Secuirty Director Chertoff Just went to Arizona to give out orders on the Border Patrol. Chertoff, like Bush, is a world government socialist and traitor to America. See Chertoff Created Terror Pretexts for US Police State

Distribute this article far and wide around the country.

Complain strongly to Congress.

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-05-13   1:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine, Arator, Burkeman1, FormerLurker, Neil McIVer, TommyTheMadArtist, tom007, Uncle Bill, who knows what evil, Red Jones, robin, Zipporah, swarthyguy, honway, Sparker, Fred Mertz, MUDDOG, continental op, itisa1mosttoolate, CWRWinger (#2)

Bush and Chertoff are traitors to America who are breaking the laws of America and deliberately not enforcing the laws of America against illegal aliens. This is directly related to cramming FTAA and the North American Union down the throats of legal Americans. It is a direct and arrogant attack on US Sovereignity by Bush and CHertoff and the world government socialist crowd..

THROW BUSH AND CHERTOFF OUT NOW!!-IMPEACH AND CONVICT AND REMOVE THEM!!

We are also going to need the Minutemen and their concept to fight and root out terrorists already in the US, many of whom are unscreened illegal aliens, that Bush, Chertoff and the FBI are by policy allowing to roam in the US without taking them of the streets but guartanteeing them free medical care. THis is beyond ourtrageous. It is outright TREASON!!.

MARCH NOW ON DC AND THE MEXICAN AND ARIZONA BORDERS WITH AT LEAST 2 MILLION LEGAL CITIZENS ENFORCE!

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-05-13   1:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: OKCSubmariner (#0)

This is totally disgusting..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-13   1:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: OKCSubmariner (#0)

Thanks for posting this.

I just forwarded this article to all the morning and afternoon talk show hosts in my area, calling on the impeachment of Presidente G.W. Bush.

In a little bit, it goes to all those, state and Fed'ral, who represent the gov't to us.

IMPEACH BUSH!!!

CWRWinger  posted on  2005-05-13   8:10:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: OKCSubmariner (#0)

I hope Lou Dobbs sees this.

I'd send this to my local paper but they're all for the illegal invasion. The paper has been on a "Celebrate Diversity" and "Diversity is our Strength" kick for several years and have been increasing the rhetoric over the past few months. They recently got a local radio station involved in their agenda.

But then...the local paper is owned by thr WSJ. Surprise!

Grumble Jones  posted on  2005-05-13   8:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: OKCSubmariner, MarineInspector, All (#3)

U.S. Border Patrol agents have been ordered not to arrest illegal aliens along the section of the Arizona border where protesters patrolled last month because an increase in apprehensions there would prove the effectiveness of Minuteman volunteers, The Washington Times has learned.

More than a dozen agents, all of whom asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, said orders relayed by Border Patrol supervisors at the Naco, Ariz., station made it clear that arrests were "not to go up" along the 23-mile section of border that the volunteers monitored to protest illegal immigration.

"It was clear to everyone here what was being said and why," said one veteran agent. "The apprehensions were not to increase after the Minuteman volunteers left. It was as simple as that."

It's clear to EVERYone. I'm amazed this was published in the Washington Times.

Why is it that our Border Patrol agents are the ones fearing retribution. Not from Mexican drug lords, but from their OWN govt!!!

robin  posted on  2005-05-13   9:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin, All (#7)

Why is it that our Border Patrol agents are the ones fearing retribution. Not from Mexican drug lords, but from their OWN govt!!!

The Bushites fully intend to destroy this nation by draining its resources, destroying its military, and bringing in as many people as possible to destroy American culture and philosophy. This thing isn't about immigration. It is mass migration, a shifting of whole populations of people and their culture. Our rulers cannot let stand a nation like America. They must bring it down into the sewers for their own goals to dominate.

Don  posted on  2005-05-13   9:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Don, robin (#8)

The Bushites fully intend to destroy this nation

This is an act of war against the American people and culture.

Treason is too light a term for it.

Flintlock  posted on  2005-05-13   9:18:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Don (#8)

This thing isn't about immigration. It is mass migration, a shifting of whole populations of people and their culture. Our rulers cannot let stand a nation like America. They must bring it down into the sewers for their own goals to dominate.

I fear that is the only explanation that fits the facts.

robin  posted on  2005-05-13   10:10:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Flintlock (#9)

It seems to me that the time has come to consider other options to deal with this problem. There are those who hire these illegals. Those who hire illegals are enemies of America. They have twisted and perverted our legal and political systems to the point where these have become totally ineffective. They laugh in our faces while they stick knives in our gut. Complaining won't change anything. Petitioning our government for redress of grievances won't change anything. Is it time for true patriots to consider other ways to "persuade" those who hire illegals to stop hiring illegals.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-05-13   10:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Don (#8)

The rulers already view North America as a single entity.

On their maps, there is no "national" border between Mexico and the U.S.

Their only goal now is to extend it to all of Central and South America and the latter has a group of nations forming a countercoalition against the Anglo-American Western Hemispheric domination strategy.

Sam Houston  posted on  2005-05-13   10:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Elliott Jackalope, Flintlock, Don (#11)

Is it time for true patriots to consider other ways to "persuade" those who hire illegals to stop hiring illegals.

If you've got the tar, I've got the feathers.

robin  posted on  2005-05-13   10:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Elliott Jackalope (#11)

Is it time for true patriots to consider other ways to "persuade" those who hire illegals to stop hiring illegals.

How are you going to know who is hiring illegals? Illegals look the same as citizens who happen to be ethnically hispanic.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-05-13   10:27:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#14)

There are whole industries that have become famous for their use of illegals. They use them because it is a business decision. Illegals are cheap and willing to take abuse without complaint. This makes hiring them a good business decision. Should said businesses find themselves suffering from repeated expensive losses directly related to their hiring of illegals, then eventually they will come to the conclusion that hiring illegals is a bad business decision and they will stop doing so.

One method that I would like to investigate would be pursuing RICO lawsuits against these businesses. I'm on record as having stated that I will personally donate $1000 to anyone who is pursuing a RICO lawsuit against an employer of illegal aliens, provided that I am convinced that their actions are legimate and that they have some real legal talent on their team, and that they have a fighting chance of winning. Anyone who fits that profile can contact me at elliottjackalope at yahoo.com because I'm serious about wanting to do something to fight back against these greedy pigs. A thousand dollars ain't much nowadays, but if another couple of hundred people would also chip in a grand each you could raise enough to at least get a good RICO lawsuit started. (Said lawsuit, realistically, would take about $500k to $750k to pursue all the way to court. Justice is expensive in America. The good news is that the payoff on the back end is fantastic, with treble damages and all legal fees paid by the defendant should they lose.)

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-05-13   10:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Elliott Jackalope (#15)

I agree with all that, and there are places where I'm almost positive they are hiring illegals in my area. But...there's still no way for me to really know. I can't just walk up and demand to see their papers. Besides that, the general consensus is that the very existence of "papers" identifying who is a citizen is opposed by the liberty minded as an evil "national id" scheme.

So, I ask my question again. How do you tell the difference between a citizen and an illegal? I sure as hell can't.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-05-13   10:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#16)

The process as I understand it involves finding a plaintiff (or plaintiffs) who has/have been directly affected by the hiring of illegals, and then initiating a legal complaint. Once that process has begun then you can start discovery procedures. This means you can supoena people and take depositions, and that is how you find out who is legal and who is illegal.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2005-05-13   11:02:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Elliott Jackalope (#17)

So, effectively it is a gamble. Make and educated guess and then throw the dice, hoping they turn out to be illegal during the discovery process.

That's all a little beyond my reach as an average citizen.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-05-13   11:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Flintlock (#9)

Treason is too light a term for it.

They are doing it out of greed. There is no word that properly describes them. I would say that the best word might be "damned."

Don  posted on  2005-05-13   11:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#10)

They are not making a secret of their plans any longer. They think that they have already attained their goals and they no longer need to hide them. They are right.

Don  posted on  2005-05-13   11:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Sam Houston (#12)

Yes, their plan is to create one trading zone of the Americas.

Don  posted on  2005-05-13   11:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: robin (#13)

If you've got the tar, I've got the feathers.

I have come to the conclusion that it is no longer safe to talk on the internet about what we might do. I think that the waters of the coming storm are getting pretty choppy.

Don  posted on  2005-05-13   11:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Don (#21)

Yes, their plan is to create one trading zone of the Americas.

It goes even beyond that, because they are in many ways opposed to letting you or I trade with Canada or Mexico. Just try getting your prescriptions filled outside the US and see what happens if you get caught.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-05-13   11:41:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#23)

One of the purposes of having a defined zone is to bleed dry the people in that zone. They are like leeches.

Don  posted on  2005-05-13   12:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: OKCSubmariner, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#0)

They were actually talking about this on Paul Harvey, and on the radio here. People are pissed off about this shit. People are getting more and more angry about the way our so called leaders and the government are derelict in their duty, all the while ramming police state legislation down our throats.

I imagine in a couple more years, when people start to get the idea that government is in no way their friend, this shit will stop. Of course, we'll have to see what the next Oligarch, er administration brings.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-05-13   18:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: OKCSubmariner (#0)

In other news, a bouncer in Minneapolis was shot in the back multiple times by a yet another undocumented Illegal Alien. After he shot this guy, he jumped into the Mississippi River, thinking he'd escape. The cops nailed him, and took him into custody. I guess he didn't realize that where he was the water was only Waist Deep.

At any rate, this puke killer was Illegal, and yet NOBODY said a fucking thing about this piece of shit's immigration status. Meanwhile 3 kids get to mourn their dad. Nice huh???

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2005-05-13   18:48:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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