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Title: What is Alex Jones Doing?
Source: Mister Clean
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jun 25, 2007
Author: Mister Clean
Post Date: 2007-06-25 16:05:25 by Mister Clean
Keywords: Alex Jones, 9/11, conspiracy
Views: 948
Comments: 156

What is Alex Jones doing?

When I ask his supporters that question they typically answer with something along the lines of, "He's waking people up. He's spreading information."

Okay, suppose that's true. People are "waking up" to the horrors of the New World Order as well as 9/11 being an inside job. So what?

Nothing is changing as a result of all this "waking up." Every day Alex Jones is ranting about the latest NWO atrocity. Every day he freaks out over the march of the NWO and the planned destruction of America. The 9/11 "truth" movement is big online but in the real world it's going nowhere.

In the world of Alex Jones, each day brings some new outrage. Each day the sky gets darker. Each day America is destroyed a little bit more. For all this "waking people up" crap, things aren't getting any better. Just look at Jones' various websites; it's all doom & gloom, all the time.

Seems to me, "waking people up" isn't doing jack shit.

Except putting money in Alex Jones' bank account.

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#116. To: Jethro Tull (#115)

Thanks JT.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-27   9:35:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Jethro Tull (#112)

A simple troll?

Heavens no.

It may be hewing the republican line at the moment, however, I suspect its paymaster goes higher than partisan politics.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-06-27   9:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Cynicom (#117)

It may be hewing the republican line at the moment, however, I suspect its paymaster goes higher than partisan politics.

Ah....the boyz from Tel Aviv.......

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-27   9:55:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Jethro Tull (#118)

Ah....the boyz from Tel Aviv.......

It does not display an overabundance of smarts so it may NOT know who really is the paymaster.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-06-27   10:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Destro (#100)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-06-27   10:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: ghostdogtxn (#120)

But I've seen pictures of the cut columns and I've seen video of the collapse of WTC 7.

Frankly, your opinion on such matters is as meaningless as mine is. Independent experts who know about demolition and other such engineering things looked at the same things and did not see what you say you saw. So therefore I consider any speculation in this direction a waste. In fact the guilty parties more than likely welcome such speculation because it distracts from any new look into what really happened.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-06-27   11:21:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Destro (#121)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-06-27   11:31:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Cynicom (#117)

Heavens no.

It may be hewing the republican line at the moment, however, I suspect its paymaster goes higher than partisan politics.

Each time he denies or spins truth or fact, reasoned conclusions, he sides with darkness. As long as we mire ourselves in an illusion of political party righteousness, the truth remains undiscussed, hidden, or supressed by intimidation. Also, the obvious battle for our souls is another area darkness prefers to hide. Time to choose, God's law or the NWO. Where in the NWO, do we find anything other than death, destruction, greed, control, or service to humanity? Once you know there is a choice, you can't decide to sit on a fence. A person has to choose. You can't 'unring a bell'. I subscribe to the belief that ones soul depends on it. You are with God's law, or you are with the NWO.

"In the end it will not matter to us whether we fought with flails or reeds. It will matter to us greatly on what side we fought." -- Gilbert Keith Chesterton (1874-1936) British essayist, critic, poet, and novelist http://quotes.liberty- tree.ca/quote_blog/Gilbert.Keith.Chesterton.Quote.FAF3

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-06-27   11:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Calamity (#123)

You are with God's law, or you are with the NWO.

Robertson thinks Rudy heaven-sent : Televangelist praises 'outstanding' Giuliani at lecture.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-06-27   11:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: TheSilverFox (#23)

Simply put: Alex Jones is the surrender leaflet of choice.

For many, yes.

The whole idea of "waking up" is fear motivated.

Operant extinction is discombobulating. For a while.

Sustaining member, A.A.C.S.C.B.R.T.A.

Tauzero  posted on  2007-06-27   11:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Calamity (#123)

Where in the NWO, do we find anything other than death, destruction, greed, control,

Many good people discount the NWO as a figment of imagination.

Perhaps if they would consider that just possibly the NWO designs transcend generations, the picture would appear clear.

NWO is NOT something that was thought of yesterday, nor today and it will not go away tomorrow.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-06-27   11:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: ghostdogtxn, All (#120)

But I've seen pictures of the cut columns and I've seen video of the collapse of WTC 7. If you can look at that stuff and honestly not see a rat, I don't know how

Just do the math on the Silverstein insurance award and anyone w/an active brain cell should stir just a tad.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-27   12:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Mister Clean (#33)

Fear is just a marketing tool used by government, businesses, groups and individuals to sell something.

On the contrary, fear has survival value, and leaders are necessarily different.

Nothing at all wrong with fear, as long as it is balanced with courage, faith, and determination.

Sustaining member, A.A.C.S.C.B.R.T.A.

Tauzero  posted on  2007-06-27   12:04:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Calamity (#123)

I agree with your statement. we are being given a choice. and we each as individuals must choose. and just because you go to church or adhere to this or that set of 'religious' rules does not in itself mean that you have chosen one side or the other.

Judgement is coming.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-06-27   12:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: aristeides (#124)

Robertson thinks Rudy heaven-sent : Televangelist praises 'outstanding' Giuliani at lecture.

I read this the other day, seems to fit here.

"Invisible strings called beliefs rise up to hidden hands holding global-wealth and power. As long as the illusion can be maintained, the audience can be held spellbound. For them, the show is their reality.

Until, one day - they [the audience] see the strings. "

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-06-27   12:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Cynicom (#126)

NWO is NOT something that was thought of yesterday, nor today and it will not go away tomorrow.

Absoulety correct.

Which is why, some desperately battle to keep eyes focused on the puppet SHOW. It serves the puppet masters, and masters, master.

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-06-27   12:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Calamity (#131)

Which is why, some desperately battle to keep eyes focused on the puppet SHOW.

Stop any ten people you meet on the street, ask them if they ever heard or read of Albert Pike.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-06-27   12:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Red Jones (#129) (Edited)

and just because you go to church or adhere to this or that set of 'religious' rules does not in itself mean that you have chosen one side or the other.

Agreed.

Once you understand this is not a religious battle, but one between everlasting life or permanent death.

Judgement is coming.

Yes. Something I read the other day mentioned that not all people were ever going to 'wake up' at the same time. I can accept that. But, once you know, you CAN'T pretend you don't.

That's where tap dancing on judgement day isn't going to help.

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-06-27   12:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Cynicom (#132)

Stop any ten people you meet on the street, ask them if they ever heard or read of Albert Pike.

Good point.

The 'hidden hand' has worked tirelessly to keep sheep lost.

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-06-27   12:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Calamity (#133)

That's where tap dancing on judgement day isn't going to help.

Friend of mine is a scientist, also basic atheist, yet he goes to church.

He say it does him no harm and "just in case"....

Cynicom  posted on  2007-06-27   12:23:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Cynicom (#135)

Friend of mine is a scientist, also basic atheist, yet he goes to church.

He say it does him no harm and "just in case"....

He thinks he's hedging his bet eh?

Uh-oh.

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-06-27   12:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Calamity (#136)

Uh-oh.

Ninety nine per cent of his highly educated brain is poo poohing the idea of a Supreme Being.

The other one per cent is saying, "are you POSITIVE".

Cynicom  posted on  2007-06-27   12:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: ghostdogtxn, swarthyguy (#122)

That's the thing, D. Independent experts have looked at WTC7 and (before they knew it was WTC7) said it was a controlled demolition. Once they found out the controlled demolition they saw was WTC7 they very quickly backpedalled on their conclusions.

Maybe, but I don't think so. I know of no such conclusions nor backpedals, etc. Sorry. Saying this does not discount in my mind a nefarious role in the events of 9/11 by the 'shadow' govt of the USA.

The key is the Project for a New American Century report on the neocon awaited ''catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor''. Pearl Harbor was a case of the USA leaving itself open for a first strike - not helping the Japanese carry out the attack but dropping your defenses for a body blow.

Many confuse that with 'Operation Northwoods' which was a plan to attack ourselves to create a pretext for invading Cuba. I think 9/11 (if it involved our govt as collaborators) was not a case of a Northwoods but a case of a Pearl Harbor. Policy was laid down to make an attack on America by outside forces (who probably did not know or care they were doing what America wanted them to do) possible - thwarting red flags to law enforcement - squashing intel warnings, and so on.

That to me is more plausible than the notions sapper units dressed like janitors prepping 3 buildings in New York for a coordinated demolition charge with an incoming airplane crash (as well as the laughable conclusion that NY landlord Silverstien is directing said sappers and would admit it on a PBS interview - the 'pull it' statement - that's retarded).

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2007-06-27   12:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Cynicom (#132)

ask them if they ever heard or read of Albert Pike

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

christine  posted on  2007-06-27   12:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: christine (#139)

no,

I know of only ONE college educated person that said they heard of Pike in college.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-06-27   12:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-06-27   12:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: ghostdogtxn (#141)

Yes to all your questions. The collapsed towers were a crime scene and should have been circled with yellow tape.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-27   12:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Destro (#100)

IMO, the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit was contrary to conventional wisdom, running interference for the jihadis. I forget the names, Frasca was one I think, but they got rid of John O'Neill (however much a showboat he was) - I still keep thinking that in the chaos of the Towers collapse, O'Neill was murdered. Just too pat an end. Be that as it may, the spiking of the investigation of the binLadin (what a difference a vowel makes) family by Cheney and Bush in Jan or Feb2000, literally the first thing they did.

Then there's PTECH and the spoofing of the Air exercises on that day.

Bush's brother running security at WTC and reports of weird activity and no bomb sniffing checks the weekend before.

If anyone really cared, there's tons to investigate.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-06-27   12:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Mister Clean (#80)

I do agree with you that the Truther movement is hung up on on it's own obsessions.

You are also right that it's impact is questionable in the wider public world.

This is not a big topic among most Americans at all.

We simply just don't care. That's frustrating to the Truthers and also to others who would like to understand but there's been enough stuff out there to make decent extrapolations and hypothesis based on facts that the Bush administration has wanted to hide and keep covered up.

Hate to say it, but coverups work and this one has. Cheney, Abu and Bandar got away with it.

3000 dead in NYC and Arlington is simply the price of doing business with the Saudis. The Dubya Family Fortune transcends a few thousand dead here and there.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-06-27   13:17:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: Cynicom (#140)

I remember in high school there was a 'history' type book we had that had 1 page devoted to Albert Pike. They had a big picture of him and they glorified him. and they said that he founded the Ku Klux Klan. and they never said anything else about his significance. and I couldn't figure out why they glorified him and gave him so much space. and after I read about his other significance in history - then I understood why.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-06-27   13:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: Mister Clean (#49)

Yawn.

Shhhhhh. don´t tell anyone, but I could have cared less (not possible! to care less, that is) if you read the post........... the info was for everyone else that maybe going through the thread.......

And it well served it's purpose for that.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-27   18:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Destro (#99)

Maybe you all already know Alex jumped the shark a long time ago. He is a conspiracy monger after all. He makes his money on pushing conspiracies and the more conspiracies you push the more product you can push. So it makes sense that he would push what happened in Virginia as a conspiracy and assert the killer was a victim of CIA mind control.

Whatever sells his DVDs to the rubes.

I could not agree more.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-07-01   8:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: swarthyguy (#144)

3000 dead in NYC and Arlington is simply the price of doing business with the Saudis.

I've come to the conclusion that it had a lot more to do with years of violent meddling in the Middle East.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-07-01   8:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Tauzero (#128)

Nothing at all wrong with fear, as long as it is balanced with courage, faith, and determination.

There is no courage, faith and determination in American politics when it comes to the use of fear.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-07-01   8:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Jethro Tull (#108)

Where once I could tolerate Republican flacks like yourself, I've now come to hate them and consider them a domestic enemy.

You have absolutely no basis for labeling me a "Republican flack."

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-07-01   8:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Original_Intent (#96)

The very loud and visible support of the Browns is one evidence of the awakening that is happening.

You make me laugh.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-07-01   8:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: tom007 (#95)

9/11 "truth" is not part of the 2008 election because that movement is going nowhere.

Interesting. Large blocs of the public have serious doubts about 9/11, and you dismiss it all?

OK.

What does the 9/11 "truth" movement have to show for all their efforts?

I'd say not very damn much.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-07-01   8:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Mister Clean (#0) (Edited)

What is Alex Jones Doing?

THE 9/11 TRUTHS ZIONIST ISRAELAND Alex Jones DOES NOT WANT AMERICA ESPECIALLY WHITE AMERICA TO KNOW:


Dan C. Lewin
Zionist Commando Daniel Lewin Orchestrated The 9-11 Terrorist Attacks
http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/ZionistDid911.html


Rabbi Dov Zakheim
The Mastermind Behind 911?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1927


BUSH AUTHORIZED THE 9/11 ATTACKS
http://www.nogw.com/download/2006_insider_911.pdf

THE ISRAELI/US CONNECTION TO 9/11
http://www.nogw.com/9_11.html

Mossad - The Israeli Connection To 911
http://www.rense.com/general64/moss.htm

"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2007-07-01   10:35:59 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Mister Clean (#152)

I'd say not very damn much.

No surprise there, MC.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-07-01   10:38:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: Mister Clean (#148)

years of violent meddling in the Middle East.

That's kinda Ron Paulish of you.

Meddling, perhaps, but ensuring that the supply of a vital natural resource isn't meddling. It's strategically driven foreign policy.

I disagree with you because Bush makes his money from Saudis and after 119, like the faithful whore he is, has done everything in his power to protect them.

That's why his war on a tictac is a farce and a sham.

Unfortunately, US soldiers keep dying in endless operations against small fry.

That is Bush's true crime, for making US soldiers die for essentially nothing, except the preservation of his family's fortunes.

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-07-01   14:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: swarthyguy (#155)

Meddling, perhaps, but ensuring that the supply of a vital natural resource isn't meddling.

When I say meddling I mean military meddling.

I used to think we needed to be militarily involved in the Middle East but not anymore.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-07-02   15:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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