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Title: What Galloway said
Source: Times Online (UK)
URL Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1616893,00.html
Published: May 18, 2005
Author: Galloway
Post Date: 2005-05-17 19:30:37 by robin
Keywords: Galloway, What, said
Views: 206
Comments: 77

“Senator, this is the mother of all smoke screens. You are trying to divert attention from the crimes that you supported, from the theft of billions of dollars of Iraq’s wealth.”

“Have a look at the real Oil-for-Food scandal. Have a look at the 14 months you were in charge of Baghdad, the first 14 months when $8.8 billion of Iraq’s wealth went missing on your watch. Have a look at Haliburton and other American corporations that stole not only Iraq’s money, but the money of the American taxpayer.”

“If the world had listened to Kofi Annan, whose dismissal you demanded, if the world had listened to President Chirac, who you want to paint as some kind of corrupt traitor, if the world had listened to me and the anti-war movement in Britain, we would not be in the disaster that we are in today.”

“You have nothing on me, Senator, except my name on lists of names from Iraq, many of which have been drawn up after the installation of your puppet government.”

“I am here today but last week you already found me guilty. You traduced my name around the world without ever having asked me a single question, without ever having contacted me, without ever having written to me or telephoned me, without any contact with me whatsoever, and you call that justice.”

“I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld met him. The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns and to give him maps the better to target those guns. I met him to try to bring about an end to sanctions, suffering and war.”

“I was an opponent of Saddam Hussein when British and American Governments and businessmen were selling him guns and gas.”

“Senator, in everything I said about Iraq I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong and 100,000 have paid with their lives, 1,600 of them American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of lies.”

**********************************************************


Tanned, pugnacious and cussed: Galloway seized his moment on a global stage

Galloway is unrepentant as he attacks US senators

From James Bone in Washington


GEORGE GALLOWAY put US Iraq policy on trial in a powerful performance yesterday before a Senate committee that had accused him of being in the pay of Saddam Hussein.

The defiant Respect party MP turned the tables on senators who had accused him of receiving oil allocations from Iraq with a stinging criticism of the war against Iraq to an American television audience that rarely hears such attacks on US policy.

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Mr Galloway told the committee’s Republican chairman, Norm Coleman, that he was engaged in “the mother of all smokescreens” to divert attention from US failings.

“I gave my heart and soul to stop you committing the disaster that you did commit in invading Iraq. And I told the world that the case for invading was a pack of lies,” he said.

He had given warning that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction and had no connection to al-Qaeda or the September 11 attacks, and that the Iraqi people would resist invasion, he said. “Senator, in everything I said about Iraq I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong, and 100,000 have paid with their lives — 1,600 of them American soldiers, sent to their death on a pack of lies.”

Mr Galloway said he had met Saddam only twice. “I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld (the US Defence Secretary) met him. The difference is that he met him to sell him guns and to give him maps to better target those guns. I met him to try to bring about an end to sanctions, suffering and war.”

He accused American multinational companies such as Haliburton of plundering Iraq since the invasion, and claimed that the real sanctions busters had been US companies acting with Washington’s connivance.

Afterwards Mr Coleman described Mr Galloway’s credibility as very suspect and spoke of consequences if he was found to have lied under oath.

Mr Galloway told CNN: “Most of the traffic I’m getting is that the British parliamentary tradition won . . . I came not as the accused but as the accuser.”

The MP flew to Washington at his own expense after the permanent subcommittee on investigations accused him of receiving 20 million barrels of “oil allocations” from Saddam. It suggested that he might have used his anti-sanctions campaign, the Mariam Appeal, to “conceal payments”.

The committee’s charges were based on Iraqi documents and interviews with senior Saddam officials. They named Mr Galloway as the recipient of oil allocations handled by a French company, Aredio Petroleum, and Middle East ASI, a Jordanian company owned by Fawaz Zureikat who contributed £375,000 to the appeal. But the committee could trace no payments to Mr Galloway himself.

Mr Galloway called the charges utterly preposterous, adding: “You have nothing on me, Senator, except my name on lists from Iraq, many of which have been drawn up since the installation of your puppet government.”
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#1. To: robin (#0)

Thank you robin ! The US-Judeo press actually covering it...I feel an attack coming on...

Eoghan  posted on  2005-05-17   19:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All, Zipporah, christine, lodwick, Eoghan, Jethro Tull, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Itsa1mosttoolate, 1776, crack monkey, Red Jones, OKCSubmariner (#0)

Check out some of these pithy quotes from the Senate's visitor today from the UK!

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   19:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

This guy has guts speaking out like that. Good find. i saw him on TV a few hours ago.

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2005-05-17   19:38:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eoghan (#1)

The US-Judeo press actually covering it...I feel an attack coming on...

LOL! I hope that's just a joke.
Isn't it fun listening to someone with a good brain and command of the English language?

CNN and the Financial Times had weak reports because they weren't quoting him. The Financial Times's story was especially tepid.
I had to look across the pond before I found one I wanted to print. But, the evening news is covering it pretty good, apparently.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   19:38:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#0)

“I have met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld met him. The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns and to give him maps the better to target those guns. I met him to try to bring about an end to sanctions, suffering and war.”

Smack that rummy :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-05-17   19:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

Reuters quotes >> To the Honorable Jewish Senator from Minnesota...

"Galloway bluntly confronted the Republican chairman of the committee, Sen. Norm Coleman of Minnesota, and challenged the attorney to back up claims the British MP profited handsomely from the now defunct program. Some of his harshest remarks concerned Coleman's support for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq that ousted President Saddam Hussein.

"Now I know that standards have slipped over the last few years in Washington, but for a lawyer, you are remarkably cavalier with any idea of justice," Galloway said.

Galloway accused Coleman of sullying his reputation and falsely asserting that he gave money to Saddam. "You call that justice?" he asked, adding later: "This is utterly preposterous."

The MP told reporters later he felt Coleman had failed in his cross-examination. "He's not much of a lyncher," he said.

Coleman, in turn, said afterward he did not think Galloway was a "credible witness" and that if he lied to the committee there would be consequences.

A maverick kicked out of the British Labour Party for his fervent opposition to the Iraq war and for personal attacks on Prime Minister Tony Blair, Galloway used the opportunity to criticize the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

"Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong, and 100,000 people have paid with their lives -- 1,600 of them American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of lies," he said."

Eoghan  posted on  2005-05-17   19:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Eoghan (#6)

Coleman, in turn, said afterward he did not think Galloway was a "credible witness" and that if he lied to the committee there would be consequences.

Yep, sounds like Coleman got his ass kicked. Love it!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-05-17   19:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eoghan (#6)

“You have nothing on me, Senator, except my name on lists of names from Iraq, many of which have been drawn up after the installation of your puppet government.”

“I am here today but last week you already found me guilty. You traduced my name around the world without ever having asked me a single question, without ever having contacted me, without ever having written to me or telephoned me, without any contact with me whatsoever, and you call that justice.”

Coleman, in turn, said afterward he did not think Galloway was a "credible witness" and that if he lied to the committee there would be consequences.

Coleman is an ass.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   19:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin, 1776 (#0)

“I was an opponent of Saddam Hussein when British and American Governments and businessmen were selling him guns and gas.”

oooohhh!!!

look, t, a truthteller!

christine  posted on  2005-05-17   20:05:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#8)

One noose saved for Coleman...Could anyone dispute he's agent of Israel with a mission to set up Galloway? Mission: Failure.

Eoghan  posted on  2005-05-17   20:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Eoghan (#10)

One noose saved for Coleman...

love it. :P

christine  posted on  2005-05-17   20:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eoghan (#10)

One noose saved for Coleman...Could anyone dispute he's agent of Israel with a mission to set up Galloway? Mission: Failure.

Coleman must regret having gone after Galloway.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   20:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#2)

Robin.. aristeides posted Galloway's comments and I posted a link to a video from Crooks & Liars of Galloway.. watch the video.. he was absolutely frothing and who can blame him?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-17   20:20:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Zipporah (#13)

I'll look for the link, I missed it. He's all over the telly.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   20:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Eoghan (#10)

George Galloway

MP for Glasgow Kelvin, George Galloway was born on 16 August 1954 in Dundee.
...
Galloway had accused Tony Blair and George W. Bush of acting "like wolves" in invading Iraq.

A Scotsman, I should have guessed. Had I heard him speak, I would have known already ;) That makes it all the better.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   20:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#12)

Coleman must regret having gone after Galloway.

It's the utter arrogance of these people that puts them in hot water...Raise the DHS threat level, Chertoff...

Eoghan  posted on  2005-05-17   20:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#14)

I've only watched the one from Crooks and Liars.. here are some links

Galloway

Galloway

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-17   20:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#8)

I friggin love this man. Give this man a medal. He all but called them the real traitors.

They obviously picked the wrong guy to try to screw. This man is a Patriot.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-05-17   20:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Burkeman1 (#18)

His only chance of staying alive is staying in the public arena of ideas...Jews bit off more than they could chew. A direct result of Ariel Sharon's non-leadership...

Eoghan  posted on  2005-05-17   20:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Zipporah (#17)

Thanks Zip, both good links. The full 47 minute testimony is very good.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   20:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Burkeman1 (#18)

I friggin love this man. Give this man a medal. He all but called them the real traitors.

They obviously picked the wrong guy to try to screw. This man is a Patriot.

Talk about hitting the nail on the head.. if you can, watch the 47 min video.. the man was on a rant and rightfully so!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-17   21:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Burkeman1 (#18)

I was at work so couldn't watch, but I downloaded the transcript and left copies on certain selected desks before i went home. Not often I get all excited about a Scots communist, but he clotheslined that smirking idiot Coleman.

You never know when the tipping point is going to come. With Nixon, it was some lowly functionary (Butterfield?) being questioned about the White House routine in a small subcommittee hearing who suddenly revealed that every word in the Oval Office was on tape. I'm not sure exactly where it occurred with LBJ, but he went from being a hugely popular president to a lowlife almost overnight.

Galloway is getting major media coverage. Most people never heard of the guy, although I know many of us were aware of him. He took on Tony Blair and got kicked out of his party. Someone at DU posted the actual document that Coleman was referring to but refused to show. It's the most blatant forgery I have ever seen. Wrong typeface, different shade of black, and his name is CROOKED. If you know how a computer can type one name of hundreds on a downward plane, I'd be interested in the explanation.

He said it flat out. Bush lied, people died, a hundred thousand or more.

Mekons4  posted on  2005-05-17   21:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Mekons4, Burkeman1 (#22)

The transcripts I've read are not complete.

The 47 minute video link (click here), is extraordinary.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   21:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#22)

Hahaha, this is great. He roasts Chrissie Snitchens just before the main event.

Galloway and the mother of all invective

Oliver Burkeman on the Respect MP's Washington performance

Wednesday May 18, 2005 The Guardian

Whatever else you made of him, when it came to delivering sustained barrages of political invective, you had to salute his indefatigability.

George Galloway stormed up to Capitol Hill yesterday morning for the confrontation of his career, firing scatter-shot insults at the senators who had accused him of profiting illegally from Iraqi oil sales.

They were "neo-cons" and "Zionists" and a "pro-war lynch mob", he raged, who belonged to a "lickspittle Republican committee" that was engaged in creating "the mother of all smokescreens".

Article continues Before the hearing began, the MP for Bethnal Green and Bow even had some scorn left over to bestow generously upon the pro-war writer Christopher Hitchens. "You're a drink-soaked former-Trotskyist popinjay," Mr Galloway informed him. "Your hands are shaking. You badly need another drink," he added later, ignoring Mr Hitchens's questions and staring intently ahead.

"And you're a drink-soaked..." Eventually Mr Hitchens gave up. "You're a real thug, aren't you?" he hissed, stalking away.

It was a hint of what was to come: not so much political theatre as political bloodsports - and with the senators, at least, it was Mr Galloway who emerged with the flesh between his teeth.

"I know that standards have slipped in Washington in recent years, but for a lawyer, you're remarkably cavalier with any idea of justice," he told Norm Coleman, the Minnesota Republican who chairs the senate investigations committee, after taking his seat at the front of the high-ceilinged hearing room, and swearing an oath to tell the truth.

"I'm here today, but last week you already found me guilty. You traduced my name around the world without ever having asked me a single question."

The culture clash between Mr Galloway's bruising style and the soporific gentility of senate proceedings could hardly have been more pronounced, and drew audible gasps and laughs of disbelief from the audience. "I met Saddam Hussein exactly the same number of times as Donald Rumsfeld met him," Mr Galloway went on. "The difference is that Donald Rumsfeld met him to sell him guns, and to give him maps the better to target those guns."

American reporters seemed as fascinated as the British media: at one point yesterday, before it was his turn to speak, Mr Galloway strode from the room, sending journalists of all nationalities rushing after him - only to discover that he was going to the lavatory.

By condemning him in their report without interviewing him, the senators had already given Mr Galloway the upper hand. But not everything was in his favour. For a start, only two senators were present, sabotaging Mr Galloway's efforts to attack the whole lickspittle lot of them - and one of the two, the Democrat Carl Levin, had spent much of his opening statement attacking the hypocrisy of the US government in allegedly allowing American firms to benefit from Iraqi oil corruption.

Even so, Mr Galloway was in his element, playing the role he relishes the most: the little guy squaring up for a fight with the establishment.

For these purposes, Senator Coleman served symbolically to represent all the evil in the world - the entire Republican party, the conscience of George Bush, the US government and the British government, too: no wonder his weak smile looked so nauseous.

"I gave my heart and soul to stop you committing the disaster that you did commit in invading Iraq," Mr Galloway told him. "Senator, in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and you turned out to be wrong."

And yet for all his anti-establishment credentials, Mr Galloway is as practised as any of his New Labour enemies at squirming away from awkward questions. Under scrutiny by Senator Levin, he deployed a classic example of the bait-and-switch technique that is the government minister's best defence in difficult questioning.

But Mr Galloway Goes To Washington had never really been an exercise in clarifying the facts. It was an exercise in giving Norm Coleman, and, by extension, the Bush administration, a black eye - mere days after the bloody nose that the Respect MP took credit for having given Tony Blair. And it went as well as Mr Galloway could have wished. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1486417,00.html

Mekons4  posted on  2005-05-17   21:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mekons4 (#24)

"You're a drink-soaked former-Trotskyist popinjay," Mr Galloway informed him. "Your hands are shaking. You badly need another drink," he added later, ignoring Mr Hitchens's questions and staring intently ahead.

"And you're a drink-soaked..." Eventually Mr Hitchens gave up. "You're a real thug, aren't you?" he hissed, stalking away.

Hahahaha!!

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   21:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Mekons4 (#24)

And Galloway did come out punching.. it boggles the mind to listen to him.. and say what many have wanted to say.. This is priceless-->"You're a drink-soaked former-Trotskyist popinjay," Mr Galloway informed him. "Your hands are shaking. You badly need another drink," he added later, ignoring Mr Hitchens's questions and staring intently ahead.

"And you're a drink-soaked..." Eventually Mr Hitchens gave up. "You're a real thug, aren't you?" he hissed, stalking away. <--- LOL!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-17   21:31:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Mekons4 (#24)

Is this showing up in the electronic media? I can't imagine network TV covering it, but is it on cable news? I mean aside from CSPAN. I needs to get out and the web might be the only way to do it. Probably best to distribute this stuff everywhere you can.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-05-17   21:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: crack monkey (#27)

here is the link to the 48 min testimony:

Galloway Testimony

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-17   21:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Zipporah, robin, Mekons4 (#26)

Just one point of contention...there's no such thing as a "former-Trotskyist." Only the party moniker changes...

Eoghan  posted on  2005-05-17   21:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Eoghan (#29)

there's no such thing as a "former-Trotskyist." Only the party moniker changes...

Agreed..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-17   21:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Zipporah, Eoghan (#30)

there's no such thing as a "former-Trotskyist." Only the party moniker changes..

So Galloway's remarks to Hitchens were more than fair ;)

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   21:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: crack monkey (#27)

It's everywhere. Lou Dobbs had both Galloway and Coleman on and asked Coleman, um, where are your documents? You never showed them. Then he was off to be interviewed on PBS and so on. He was on all the nightly news broadcasts and NPR was all over it, playing long excerpts.

This guy really said, the emporer has no clothes.

Mekons4  posted on  2005-05-17   21:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin (#8)

Coleman is an ass.

Coleman is covering for his tribal companions as they are hot to get on with their agenda, Syria, Iran, Lebanon.

1776  posted on  2005-05-17   21:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: robin (#8)

I did a search on Coleman.. I had forgotten that he was the one with the dental work that was posted on the dentist's website:

When Dental Floss is not enough

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-17   21:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All, Zipporah, Mekons4, Burkeman1, 1776, Brian S, christine, Eoghan, LP on Galloway - languid threatens Brian --- YOULL ALL END UP LIKE ZUNDEL (#0)

21. To: BeAChooser (#20)

I really would like to hear your *plan* for what we should do NOW.

My first action would to be to arrest all of you neocon/zionist war criminals that lied us into this illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq and see you all tried and hopefully convicted by a jury of your American peers.

Then we could proceed from there...

Brian S posted on 2005-05-17 20:23:45 ET Reply Trace

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31. To: Brian S (#21)

It's much more likely that Chertoff will go after you America-hating, anti- semitic kooks. You'll all end up like Zundel.

:)

languid posted on 2005-05-17 21:27:03 ET Reply Trace

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   21:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#35)

Dear lord.. and whose the kook?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-05-17   21:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Zipporah (#34)


Sen. Norm Coleman The "after" picture.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   21:59:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: robin (#35)

It's much more likely that Chertoff will go after you America-hating, anti- semitic kooks. You'll all end up like Zundel.

A Jew enforcing anti-Semitic laws?

Laughable :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2005-05-17   22:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Zipporah (#26)

Chrissie is a laff riot. God, I abhor that thug. Calling Galloway a thug is hilarious; Chrissie is the biggest thug around. When them Trotskyites turn Neocon, they really get vicious. See David horrorwitz for another example.

Absolutists of any stripe are abhorrent. When I was a college freshman, I joined SDS, which was in its death throes by then. I quit within a few months, first when they attacked ROTC for no particular reason (hey, better to have Second Looies who have actually smoked a joint or listened to Jimi Hendrix than have those, at that time, total nazis from the West Points running things...more likely they'll keep their men alive) and then by opposing free speech.

I went back to being an independent. Of course, that was during the Nixon years, so I was pretty much a Dem, just a couple of years after protesting against Humphrey, as in Dump the Hump, for his mindless support of the war. I was too young to vote for Nixon or Humphrey, but i would definitely have voted for Pat Paulson.

I remember a time when Republicans and Democrats could agree on a lot of stuff, but the GOP has moved so far right and the Dems have too. I'd like to see some libertarian/progressive raprochement that could challenge these guys. I really like a lot of Dems (Durbin in particular, but Russ Feingold too) but I'm mainly an anti-Republican. I work for Dems, but they do and say the stupidest things. They allow gay marriage to become a big issue, when it is a very small one, compared to SS and war and shit. I think most people can agree that gays should have rights like insurance and hospital visitation and so on. At some point, marriage will probably happen, but, you know, who CARES? Is marriage such a big deal?

And for abortion, I believe in a right to choose. But it should be RARE, REALLY RARE. We have the ability to absorb these extra children, but we will not spend the money to take care of them. I have a wonderful daughter because I do not believe in abortion. She's the best thing in my life, and I was in love with her long before she was born. But if we're not going to offer birth control advice to young, impressionable girls, if we are not going to help them through their pregnancies, if we are not willing to cut the red tape for adoption (including those AWFUL loving gay couples), then we are promoting abortion. It will happen, legally or illegally. Even McCain said he would send his daughter to Canada if it was outlawed.

Since I am on a rant, this Jew-bashing has to stop. There are right-wing Jews, but the vast majority of Israelis are moderate or left-wing. They're just doing what our sheep do here, vote for the clown who STARTED the war because he will keep them SAFE. You all may remember that shithead Sharon stomping through the Mount, spitting on Palestinians. He started the Intifadah.

Just like our punk and his overlords started the disastrous war we're fighting. They knew damn well there were no WMDs, but they need that fiction, along with the fictions of 911 and Al Qaeda connections to get the sheep to fight.

We have to help the Dems overthrow the Rethugs now, and then form a REAL third party that can address the real issues, like tax reform, shoring up SS, crucifying the Enron types who rape our country, and backing off from military crap. We have nearly no need to intervene militarily anywhere in the world. But that would be bad for the military/industrial complex. Which, btw, was the driving force in Nazi Germany.

/Rant off

Mekons4  posted on  2005-05-17   22:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: robin (#37)

The "relieved that I still have my teeth because I'm a stinking little sniveling creep who in a just world would have knee-dropped and crying like a baby on the floor, spitting bloody chiclets" look.

Mekons4  posted on  2005-05-17   22:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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