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Title: 9/11: Share your thoughts (Newspaper asks for input about 9/11)
Source: Orange County Register (So. California)
URL Source: http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/life/abox/article_1823378.php
Published: Sep 1, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-09-01 03:56:40 by Artisan
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http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/life/abox/article_1823378.php

Tuesday, August 28, 2007

9/11: Share your thoughts

9/11: your thoughts?

Six years have passed since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, shook our nation to its roots, pulling us together and tearing us apart at the same time.

For those who lost family and friends, the journey from there to here is marked by a personal pain. But for the rest, what? What does 9/11 mean now?

We'd like to hear your perspective. What do you feel when you look back – and when you look forward – from the viewpoint of whatever we've learned?

Send your thoughts in 500 words or less to life@ocregister.com. We might publish your thoughts starting Sept. 11 at http://ocregister.com. Subscribe to *Bilderberg and NWO Watch*

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#1. To: Artisan (#0)

9/11 was the Illuminati's master stroke. It destroyed the U.S. as we knew it up until that day and we will never get it back. How far we descend into hell remains to be seen.

It frankly amazed me (although it shouldn't have) how easily the U.S. public fell for this Big Lie and never even bothered to analyze what really happened. Some have begun to, but it is already too late.

The American public as they descend into the pit of hell not only cannot handle the truth. They adamantly DO NOT WANT TO KNOW the truth.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2007-09-01   8:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Sam Houston (#1)

My Entry To The OC Register

Six years ago World Trade Center Tower 7 collapsed straight down in 6.5 seconds. You can see the collapse videos at http://www.WTC7.net . The windows would have melted at 900 degrees. The windows were intact so fire did not take down Tower 7. It was not hit by an airplane so that is ruled out. Why can't we get any answers to the question what took down WTC 7?

The hijackers story seems to be implausibe. The FBI to date has refused to release any information on the tickets and boarding passes of the alleged hijackers. And no surveillance videos were divulged either. Plus the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology reported that there was no Arab DNA on Flight 77. So are we to believe that Allah loves Muslim martyrs so much that He gets them past surveillance cameras without being taped, on planes with neither tickets nor boarding passes and resurrects them bodily into Heaven for blowing up buildings with Americans inside?

I find it easier to believe that the government is lying to us about just as they did about the assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK. I am a lifelong Republican who voted for Nader in 2000 because I knew we were headed to war no matter who was elected.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2007-09-01   12:19:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Horse (#2)

great post, thanks for sending it to them.

Artisan  posted on  2007-09-01   12:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: honway, skydrifter, horse (#2)

here is an opportunity to get published in a wide circulation newspaper. Note,, the main editorial writer for the register , named Greenhut, announced he has rejected the GOP and gone full libertarian party last year. he wrote a great column on the despicable GOP and bush. and why they rejected him, not vice versa.

Artisan  posted on  2007-09-01   12:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/opinion/columns/article_1673189.php

Sunday, April 29, 2007
Breaking up with the GOP
Is the battle of individual liberty against big government over? A lot of Republicans seem to have declared 'mission accomplished'
By STEVEN GREENHUT
Senior editorial writer and columnist for the Register

Have you ever been in one of those destructive long-term relationships that, at some point, you really just needed to end?

I'm not referring to my marriage to my lovely wife of 23 years, but to my 25- year relationship with the Republican Party. In recent years especially, I have found fewer things in common with the party. I feel used and abused. We've obviously grown in different and incompatible directions.

It's a groan-inducing cliché, I know, but it applies here: I didn't leave the party; the party left me.

I grew up in one of those East Coast Democratic households, where FDR, JFK and even LBJ were lionized, and where the GOP wasn't so much loathed as ignored. I never met an actual Republican – at least anyone who admitted as much – until I went away to college. I became a Republican during Ronald Reagan's first term, having been inspired by his appeals to liberty, to his recognition of the freedom-stifling aspects of big government, to his unabashed embrace of the traditions of America's founders.

Reagan never actually rolled back government, but I can forgive a failure to achieve lofty aims. I cannot forgive abandonment of those aims. And it has been obvious for years, especially under the leadership of our current Republican president and our previously Republican-controlled Congress, that the "pro- liberty" stance has become nothing more than an applause line at those syrupy Flag Day dinners.

Under Republican leadership, the federal government has expanded – without even including war-related spending – far more quickly than it expanded under Bill Clinton. And when it comes to security matters, Republicans have been zealous in giving the feds additional powers to trample our privacy and liberties. Republicans have been unwavering in their support for embarking on nation- building experiments of the sort that traditional conservatives would abhor. The presidential candidates most committed to a muscular central government – Rudy Giuliani and John McCain – are leading the pack.

Now even the rhetoric of freedom is mostly gone. Most "mainstream" Republicans don't talk about liberty anymore. The advocates for this emerging New Republican Party are becoming surprisingly outspoken. A good example is New York Times "conservative" columnist David Brooks, a former editor at the Weekly Standard, the neoconservative journal that shilled vociferously for war in Iraq. (Hint: The results of that policy might offer some warning to Republicans before they jump too quickly on his latest advice.)

In a column reprinted today (beginning on Page 1 of Commentary), Brooks rebutted those of us who argue that "in order to win again, the GOP has to reconnect with the truths of its Goldwater-Reagan glory days. It has to once again be the minimal-government party, the maximal-freedom party, the party of rugged individualism, and states' rights. This is folly."

Obviously unaware of the ever-growing Leviathan around him, Brooks claims that the old days of oppressive government are over. The idea of limited government – that silly, fuddy-duddy notion advanced by our Constitution, and ensconced in the Bill of Rights – is so 18th century. Time for something more appropriate for our time!

He's got a new idea (actually, the oldest of ideas, the one that says that government and power are what matters, and that freedom and individualism are outdated). And he's even got a catchy slogan for it. He calls it, Security leads to freedom.

Forgive me a Dave Barry moment, but I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP. Doesn't this sound like something out of an Orwell novel? War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Security is freedom. Brooks argues that the "liberty vs. power paradigm" is passé. Government doesn't necessarily mean less personal liberty, he writes. Modern voters aren't worried about an overweening state. Instead, the public wants to be protected from the complex modern threats to their existence: "Islamic extremism, failed states, global competition, global warming, nuclear proliferation, a skills-based economy, economic and social segmentation."

Maybe a large segment of the public wants those things, but it's the job of statesmen to lead the People, to frame the relevant issues, to set a course that is at times bigger and more noble than the current small-scale debates – not just to slavishly follow the People's basest desires. By the way, I'm not picking on Brooks per se, but using him as an articulate example of a form of thinking common today among many in the GOP.

Has the world been turned on its head? I see no signs that the classical liberal thinkers were wrong, that government is no longer wasteful, abusive and corrupt. Government continues to grab a larger share of our resources, even as it becomes less capable of doing its legitimate jobs with any degree of competence. Yet Brooks and others like him believe that the government can save us from all our neurotic worries, even ones as nebulous as "economic and social segmentation" – whatever that means.

When people are secure, Brooks wrote, they are "more free to take risks and explore the possibilities of their world. ... People with secure health care can switch jobs more easily. People who feel free from terror can live their lives more loosely. People who come from stable homes and pass through engaged schools are free to choose from a wider range of opportunities."

At this point I want to tell the People to grow up already. Brooks' point in the paragraph is true enough. But – here I go again with an arcane notion – in a free society, individuals need to take care of these matters mostly themselves, rather than to plead for bureaucrats and politicians to take care of things for them.

Our government is based on the radical idea that government should be limited to a handful of tasks, most of which revolve around protecting our natural rights. These are negative rights. They implore the government to leave us alone to pursue our own dreams and desires. Positive rights demand a positive response. If I have a "right" to education, then you must be forced to pay for it or provide it for me.

Traditionally, Republicans believed in negative rights. Yet Brooks thinks that's a mistake. He writes that the GOP needs to be "oriented less toward negative liberty (How can I get the government off my back?) and more toward positive liberty (Can I choose how to lead my life?)."

Instead of worrying about government spending, and regulating and snooping and launching foreign wars and eroding our civil liberties and imposing crushing tax burdens, and all those silly old fixations, Brooks argues that Republicans have to compete with Democrats in appealing to every soccer mom's desire for more social programs, more regulations, more protections from hobgoblins. He argues, in a refreshingly albeit frighteningly direct manner, for the final, total rejection of the American founding experiment.

Sure, the Republicans will focus more on terrorism and security issues, and the Democrats will focus more on health care and domestic regulation, but in this Brave New Paradigm, no major party will echo the words of that outdated crank, Thomas Jefferson, who argued that "the sum of good government" is one "which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned."

Perhaps that world already is here. Which is why I'm divorcing myself from the Republican Party, and keeping my distance from any group that doesn't place the defense of liberty as the prime goal of the political system.

Contact the writer: sgreenhut@ocregister.com or 714-796-7823

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Artisan  posted on  2007-09-01   12:41:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston, Christine, Jethro Tull, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#1)

9/11 was the Illuminati's master stroke.

The "New World Order," for sure. The "Illuminati" died around 1787.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-09-01   12:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Horse (#2)

So are we to believe that Allah loves Muslim martyrs so much that He gets them past surveillance cameras without being taped, on planes with neither tickets nor boarding passes and resurrects them bodily into Heaven for blowing up buildings with Americans inside?

I find it easier to believe that the government is lying to us about just as they did about the assassinations of JFK, RFK and MLK. I am a lifelong Republican who voted for Nader in 2000 because I knew we were headed to war no matter who was elected.

excellent

christine  posted on  2007-09-01   12:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Horse, *9-11* (#2)

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-09-07   20:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Horse (#2)

I would ask questions.. have you ever seen a frame house collapse from a fire that only engulfed maybe 5% of the structure? How could a steel and concrete building collapse from fire which hadnt been hit by any plane?

Zipporah  posted on  2007-09-07   20:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Horse (#2)

Great letter Horse.

Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!

robin  posted on  2007-09-07   21:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#0) (Edited)

My thoughts about 9/11. Screw you Zionist pigs.

I will indeed never forget your act of war on the USA.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-09-08   2:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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