Maybe Goldi made good on her threat to shut everything down. From what I could see, it has come to the point where every thread is about Ron Paul and his supporters being kooks, anti-American, traitors, etc. If you read through the posts on the threads, they boil down to name calling between the pro and anti- Ron Paul folk.
The anti-Paul people were really working overtime trying to denounce Paul and his candidacy. For people that continuously declared that Paul was a nobody candidate for fringe lunatics, they spent an abnormal amount of time posting anti-Paul articles. It was quite apparent to anyone reading LP that the very existence of Ron Paul in the world is a threat to them and their slavish devotion to big government and the two-party fraud. Yukon, Domer, packratxxxx, Daconia55, boilerplate, calcon, and others are really worried.
Maybe Goldi made good on her threat to shut everything down.
I recall that Goldi also made reference to receiving a warning from the site host, that they were being watched, and that further transgression of the host terms of service could result in the host shutting down the site.
Yes, CP shut down months ago, seemingly voluntarily. Can't imagine what would have compelled them to do such a constructive thing.
The CP Snitz site shut down in July 2006, involuntarily. Their host pulled the plug.
The rather short-lived CP vBulletin site shut down in February 2007. Whether the shutdown was voluntary or involuntary would be known only to those involved with the shutdown. It could have been voluntary, but I have no problem imagining what could have compelled them to do such a thing.
I recall that Goldi also made reference to receiving a warning from the site host, that they were being watched, and that further transgression of the host terms of service could result in the host shutting down the site.
A few days or a week ago on some thread I saw on LP. My recollection is that she also went on to threaten to pull the plug herself if the problems continued. I believe the discussion was about the banning of one or several LP posters.
I'm no fan of Goldi or many others at LP, but if an ISP can take them down, then that is scary.
Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Too many Ron Paul posts and Tel Aviv pulled the plug????
I doubt it. From my understanding, Goldi got bent out of shape about people posting so many pro-Paul articles and started threatening to ban people. Of course it's perfectly OK to fill the site with anti-Ron Paul articles. There's many more anti- than ther are pro-.
It had to do with Coppertone, a letter to the FBI and someone's real name being posted. I can't remember. There were a lot of people on the thread, so somebody will.
I recall that Goldi also made reference to receiving a warning from the site host, that they were being watched, and that further transgression of the host terms of service could result in the host shutting down the site.
I wasn't aware of that. LP's been around for a long time with no problems that I am aware of. It must have been a pretty bad transgression.
I recall that Goldi also made reference to receiving a warning from the site host, that they were being watched, and that further transgression of the host terms of service could result in the host shutting down the site.
I stumbled across that thread and threat also but didn't bother to investigate what prompted such an action by the site host.
Perhaps Fred knows the details, eh Fred?
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
hmmmm..did she say what the supposed transgression was?
I do not recall anything specific about the transgressions. I did not pay too much attention to this at the time but my somewhat vague recollection is that it had generally to do with the ongoing foodfight between certain posters or about Ron Paul. It may have just been in the nature of certain insults.
I read the statements by Goldi you refer to, and I got it from a link here.
basically Goldi said she was in a job-search. Her previous employer eliminated her section she worked in. she said she really had to work now because she was looking for a job. and she didn't have time to properly monitor the site as she once did when she had a job. and said that if monitoring it was too much work she might shut it down.
Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
I'm no fan of Goldi or many others at LP, but if an ISP can take them down, then that is scary.
If the site host determines that the site has violated its Terms of Service (TOS) they can pull the plug and the site is offline. This is what was done to the Clown Posse Snitz (using Snitz code) site by its host which was in the UK at that time.
This does not necessarily prevent the site from moving to a new host with its database history intact.
Golfmann said he was the one on the papers. He told me he was working with Hugh to get it shut down. That was before he took his own site out of public view and banned me.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
If that is the case, there a lot of good people there that may migrate to 4um. As usual there are many that most people would not want.
Ain't that the truth. I have no problem with opposing views but people like Yukon, Daconia55, boilerplate, calcon, and others do not debate, they personally attack those who have different views from them. Every post they make is an ad hominem attack. Since they are pro-war though, Goldi lets them get away with it ad nauseum.
Yeah I used to know his last name but have forgotten John something. At the time he owned a cigar shop. He lost that business and moved shortly after putting No Name up. Said he as cheated by his partner. He claimed Master Mind stole CP from him. They did kick him out sort of, that's why he put up No Name. He was still on the paperwork though, the agreement with Hugh since it was Golf who set the site up and worked on all the software. There are those who know a lot more about it than I do since I was not in any loop.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
#36. To: Cynicom, Christine, robin, zipporah, Tom007, SkyDrifter (#28)
I don't even know how long it's been down. Remember in the past there was computer hardware problems causing a shut-down for a day or so, could be something like that. or if Gold shut it down despite her story for doing it, she acquired (I'd presume bought) a discussion forum & then decided to shut it down. the old FreeRepublic of 1997-2000 was a very excellent forum in terms of communication of important info. many of us remember how that self- destructed. JimRob & wife were facing lawsuits, broke & desperate in late 1990's. and early 2000's they were recovered financially, lawsuits went away (somehow) and they switched to republican only, and then neo-con only. LP & others that splintered from FR saw any variety of means of destruction. I wonder who Goldi really worked for? & others too on LP & at other break-off forums.
one of 4um's advantages is a small number of people who read it. small meaning unimportant in target selection (in information-war). I will say it is a noble thing to run a discussion forum like 4um. because it is so obvious that freedom of speech is under attack in many ways & I would not doubt that Goldi shut it down as 'the company' associates advised her to. same with the others, in 1 means or another they've likely been taken out.
we've done our best to communicate. and there may come a time when we cannot. Someone once compared the old FR to the Liberty Tree's of revolution days. That is when they would post news stories about the war on very large old trees in the forest, treating it like a bulletin board that multiple people would travel up to 100 miles to see & get the news not necessarilly published in the newspapers from the cities controlled by the British.
Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
"...but my somewhat vague recollection is that it had generally to do with the ongoing foodfight between certain posters..."
Yes, Goldi-lox was pretty upset about all the name calling, etc., that was occurring at the same time that the site host got ticked off about the incident with Coppertone.
JimRob & wife were facing lawsuits, broke & desperate in late 1990's. and early 2000's they were recovered financially, lawsuits went away (somehow) and they switched to republican only, and then neo-con only. LP & others that splintered from FR saw any variety of means of destruction. I wonder who Goldi really worked for? & others too on LP & at other break-off forums.
JimRob & wife were facing lawsuits, broke & desperate in late 1990's. and early 2000's they were recovered financially, lawsuits went away (somehow) and they switched to republican only, and then neo-con only.
It had to do with Coppertone, a letter to the FBI and someone's real name being posted. I can't remember. There were a lot of people on the thread, so somebody will.
You have GOT to be kidding me! Coppertone?
These people have too much time on their hands. When they argue about Coppertone, Geez.
Golfmann said he was the one on the papers. He told me he was working with Hugh to get it shut down. That was before he took his own site out of public view and banned me.
I am reasonably certain CP belonged to Mastermind, not Golfmann.
I believe the site host was spelled Huw but pronounced like Hugh. The host was in the UK and with the name Huw, the host was possibly Welsh.
I also believe (but have no proof) that Golfmann was involved in the shutdown of the CP Snitz site. I have seen that denied. It is just my opinion.
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Title: LP: Update on current behavior of posters - and the future of LP Source: LP Mgmt URL Source: http://none Published: Aug 28, 2007 Author: Goldi Post Date: 2007-08-28 14:40:44 by Goldi-Lox Ping List: *Liberty Post News* 425 Comments
I expect those of you who post here to adhere to the rules that are outlined on the tab, FAQ. Further info is on the tab named "Help".
You are adults. Many of you are in jobs or positions of responsiblity. Why then do so many of you act without any responsibility??
If you can't treat me and each other with respect, then the entire intent of this site is a lost cause.
For those of you who do not already know, I was laid off my job at the end of June due to a business downturn in my specific facility. I am currently engaged in a full time job search. As such, I don't have time or patience to deal with childish antics by those of you who ARE currently employed. I will not be taking time from my search to coddle you.
I have today and yesterday been forced to address issues that I don't have time to be dealing with. As a result, I have banned Gatlin and Rhino369. I have had to close other accounts due to their total internet stupidity. I won't mention their names. I have also deleted several threads where one poster attacked another.
For the time being, these kinds of actions will result in immediate and permanent bannings. I'm not spending my time dealing with you when I need to find a job to support myself.
How inconsiderate of you all.
I am so disgusted with these actions that I may not bother with keeping this site up at all if it continues.
So, go ahead. Bash me in this thread - and you'll make the decision for me.
So you can shape up or ship out. Or the boat goes down with all of you.
You've been given fair warning. Now we'll all see what you do with it.
I am now going back to my primary activity: finding a new job. I won't be on this thread further.
Somewhere on that thread Goldi-lox posts a letter she got from the site host or Coppertone. I think Coppertone wrote a letter to the FBI or some other federal agency. It had to do with their ham radio call letters or their real name being posted. Don't quote me on that. Coppertone also sent a copy (?) of the letter to Goldi-lox. Coppertone was threatening to shut down LP. Goldi-lox banned her.
#55. To: Red Jones, Cynicom, Christine, robin, zipporah, Tom007, SkyDrifter (#36)
lawsuits went away (somehow)
The Times Corp. obtained a $1M judgment against FR/Jim Rob. The court found, among other things, that FR was a for-profit, limited liability company.
The litigation was ostensibly settled for $10K and FR agreement to cease using Times Corp. articles. I suspect somebody sort of bought a silent partnership or some significant influence on FR.
The court decisions re the Times Corp. litigation are:
Judge Morrow's Tentative Order. Re: whether Free Republic's republication of Plaintiffs' copyrighted articles constitutes fair use. Case: Los Angeles Times v. Free Republic. Court: U.S. District Court, C.D.Cal., Case No. 98-7840 MMM(AJWx). Date: November 9, 1999.
LOS ANGELES TIMES, and THE WASHINGTON POST COMPANY and its wholly owned subsidiary, WASHINGTONPOST.NEWSWEEK INTERACTIVE COMPANY, Plaintiffs, vs. FREE REPUBLIC, ELECTRONIC ORCHARD, JIM ROBINSON, and DOES 1 THROUGH 10, inclusive, Defendants.
CASE NO. CV 98-7840 MMM (AJWx)
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
2000 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 5669; 54 U.S.P.Q.2D (BNA) 1453; Copy. L. Rep. (CCH) P28,075; 28 Media L. Rep. 1705
March 31, 2000, Decided
April 4, 2000, Filed; April 5, 2000, Entered
* * *
III. CONCLUSION
For the foregoing reasons, plaintiffs' motion for summary adjudication with respect to fair use is granted, and defendants' motion is denied.
I think Goldi banned two guys: Gatlin and rhino369. Two other posters whose names escape me at the moment...a guy and a gal somehow baited Gatlin or someone into revealing something like a ham radio handle about one of them, the male poster. Harrowup later reveals that the guy is the infamous TonyMCDC or something along that name.
Anyway Goldi received some sort of nasty, threatening, lawyerly letter telling her that they were going to contact the FBI because revealing private information is dangerous in this day and age, blah, blah, blah. The letter had its intended effect and sent Goldi into a tizzy where she banned Gatlin and on some sort of different offense she banned rhino369 for posting a thread titled Is Yukon Gay? The rhino case is another story but it occurred while Goldi was worried about her ISP shutting her off and the FBI getting involved.
Somehow during that thread or another the two complainers were exposed as some sort of klown posse tag team that infiltrates, they act like normal members and gain acceptance and then they play their little game. Their intent is to shut down web sites, at least that is what is alleged against them. Those are the sketchy details off the top of my head while I'm on an extended little vacation and I'm heading back home tomorrow morning. I hope I haven't muddied the waters on this.
When the dust settled she banned the two klown pussies and will reinstate Gatlin's and rhino's posting privileges two weeks from the date of their 'infractions' which should be pretty soon. I think this site had some of the discussion about rhino369's predicament...he posts here under that screen name.
I also believe (but have no proof) that Golfmann was involved in the shutdown of the CP Snitz site.
That's the one I was talking about. Golfmann had told me prior to his taking NN private that he was talking to Huw to get it shut down because he was still listed with Huw as the owner. Whether that was why it was shut down or not I have no clue I only know what I was told. Golfmann has given me no reason to trust him.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
A year or more ago Goldie created a webpage for LP users to go to if LP was down so that they could find out why it was down. I went to that address and found the following:
I don't see what the problem is with Stoner. I just take him with a grain of salt and avoid serious discussions with him. For some reason Stoner made Jhoffa_ blow a gasket.
Did I ever tell you the one where the punchline is, "You blew a seal."?
"We the People Forum" morphed into No Name. The URL is still wethepeopleforum.
Yes I know. Despite the URL the forum was never called We The People. I was there from the beginning. We got used to calling it No Name and it stuck. I left twice because of the secret back rooms though it was denied that they existed. I was even let into them at one point but complained that they were wrong. Too elitist for my tastes.
I was the one who started the daily coffee threads that were popular. When I set up my own site I used the coffee theme. I went back to NN after the back rooms were shut down. By that time most of the older posters were gone. I tried to help bring it back but two people came from other sites and spread gossip about me in PMs. I was accused of all kinds of things including playing moderator and spamming. JackLint (central Scrutinizer) was dominating the forum at that point. I left as it was apparent I was not wanted there. Golfmann turned against me, he even came over to Liberty post once to rip at me. Central still attacks me on Liberty Forum occasionally and one of the gals spreading crap about me in PMs continued on another forum. I refuse to associate with her or her group.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
I specified the CP Snitz site because I believe someone else was responsible for the shutdown of the vBulletin site.
Shortly before the host pulled the plug there was talk at CP about a bunch of complaints having been filed with the host and that the site might get shut down. I did not know who the site host was until after the site had been taken down. I was given the address of the AIMOO backup site but I never registered there so I never went past the splash screen. The shutdown did not come as a complete surprise to CP.
I had not previously heard your specific information but what you speak of is what I have always suspected as having happened.
Golf later showed up in the background at CU and ToaK. I believe he was a major source of CP information at both sites. While ToaK sometimes took credit for shutting down the second CP site, I doubt they were responsible.
Do yo know where I could find Yukon? I'd love to troll him to another site...even more I would love to meet him in person one day to find out if his real personality matchs his online personality.
My understanding was that it was an existing, unactivated, entity created by Golf with a working title of We the People. When the break with CP occurred, Golf did not create a new forum from scratch, but finished up the long-dormant site-in-progress and opened it for posting. As Columbo, I was among the charter members of the site before it had a name, and subsequently the name No Name was settled upon.
I got into a disagreement with Cold Heat about whether WMD were in Iraq. It was on the thread Who Is Lying About Iraq? started by Golfmann on 11/10/2005, quoting an article by Normal Podhoretz. I argued the side that no WMD were found. Golf stepped in to change the subject and when I declined, he banned me (11/15/2005). It appears that the thread has been deleted at NN, but I retain a copy.
Yeah you are probably right. I'm just glad I'm out of it all. It wasn't worth it. The back stabbing and constant gossip gets old after a while.
It was fun for a while. A lot of changes happened on the board and it seemed to fracture when the Guild members came over from FR. After that, the "posse" spent the bulk of its time attacking each other. Eventually, I also concluded it wasn't worth it and left. I was just going to stop posting and go quietly, but it did not quite work out that way.
My understanding was that it was an existing, unactivated, entity created by Golf with a working title of We the People. When the break with CP occurred, Golf did not create a new forum from scratch, but finished up the long-dormant site-in-progress and opened it for posting. As Columbo, I was among the charter members of the site before it had a name, and subsequently the name No Name was settled upon.
Yes that is probably more accurate than the way I put it. I didn't mean to sound argumentative.
I got into a disagreement with Cold Heat about whether WMD were in Iraq. It was on the thread Who Is Lying About Iraq? started by Golfmann on 11/10/2005, quoting an article by Normal Podhoretz. I argued the side that no WMD were found. Golf stepped in to change the subject and when I declined, he banned me (11/15/2005). It appears that the thread has been deleted at NN, but I retain a copy.
Not surprising. You and I could probably old home week all night though. Water under the bridge and bad memories for me. I did go to the link you provided. I see he has the forum back public and same ole names posting. I enjoyed posting there until I found out you had to be part of an elite group to really belong. Sorry Golfmann chose assholes like Jack Lint over me. His choice, his loss. As I said before, you were one of the better posters. Maybe you intimidated him. I guess he is consistent in his bad choices.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
It was fun for a while. A lot of changes happened on the board and it seemed to fracture when the Guild members came over from FR. After that, the "posse" spent the bulk of its time attacking each other. Eventually, I also concluded it wasn't worth it and left. I was just going to stop posting and go quietly, but it did not quite work out that way.
I guess I never did know what happened to you or most for that matter. I wasn't in any loop or back room or part of the gossip chain.
I was banned for being a FR supporter. This was after I was banned from FR.
I had said I thought JR really believed he was intitled to fair use. I was proven wrong. I conceeded defeat but that was enough to give them amunition against me. Fuz bitched and moaned until MM banned me for being a FR supporter (he never liked me anyway) claiming he wasn't buying my sudden conversion. What sudden conversion?
None of them were trust worthy in my opinion. And EveningStar, I trusted him and was his friend until I caught him repeating confidential information. I see he still posts at NN. I always knew he was a pot stirrer but I thought we were friends.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Honestly, I have a feeling he might not be. I would guess it was someone else that emailed Goldi. Bser'd be my first guess. I'd like to see that charming individual play it's hand here on 4um. See how far he gets with the lame graphics and the foreign flag it waves around.
"They must find it difficult... Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." ~ Gerald Massey
I dont know...you guys are a little extreme with your views. Maybe i will start to look for a new candidate...i heard some good things about that paul ron guy.
The only cure for this kind of dissent is a 5/8" drill bit slowly driven into the heel or shoulderblade. It works in Iraq and it'll work here. If Fred says get your ass off the streets...then you get your ass off the streets. Only terrorists are out and about after 1 a.m., everyone knows this.
The site just went down and there is no one around on Sunday who can do anything.
Someone was able to do some sort of a "ping" test and see that there was a breakdown along the line. That's all they can do until the experts come back to work tomorrow.
Goldi says she has calls in to everyone and left messages everywhere.
Coppertone and Herp - Former MCDC mods - moved over to mod a new site for a new group. Went to LP to announce new group - things escalated from there with them and Gatlin. It was pretty nasty with threads being hijacked and page long posts and the current post list being full of posts between them all.
I think Rhino's thread was called "Yukon is Gay". Gatlin and Rhino are to be re-instated by the end of the week. Unless of course LP has definately ceased to exist.
I don't know why my link isn't working, but if you go to google and type in Libertypost Status the link will pop up and you can get to it from there. The status hasn't changed since yesterday.
#125. To: christine, FarmFriend, wudidiz, Zipporah, robin, FormerLurker, aristeides, all (#0)
The longer this continues, the more I think about it, and the longer I look at it the more inclined I am to suspect that "Liberty Post" was "taken down" either by a Hack Attack or because Goldi/Sally was "gotten to".
There are a variety of factors echoing through that vast empty chamber which is my mind.
As much as I enjoy the crowd on 4um LP was getting and hitting a much larger audience.
The Shills were getting exposed and pilloried as Shills and it was becoming obvious that some of the most prolific Posters, although not the most insightful, were paid shills of various forms along with a large contingent of Israel First "Hasbara" Posters.
There have been no pledge drives for several months - Goldi was claiming to be out of work. Who was paying the bills and with what?
Despite a lot of negative posting by the various shills it was becoming apparent that the majority opinion on LP was decidedly in support of Ron Paul - the NWO's worst nightmare of a Presidential Candidate - an honest man - with no "handles" by which to Blackmail him.
The 911 Truth proponents dominated increasingly the discussion of 911 and the shills were reduced to little more than obvious childish insults without the wit or information to refute the "truth" position.
The NAU/Open Borders position was held in such hostility by a majority of posters that the shills could support it only very surreptitiously if at all.
Another key point is that despite the heavy bombardment 24/7 by various shills and Israel Firsters the truth was getting out. The Israel First position was being ventilated and the seamy underside of Israeli Genocide of the Palestinians and the Land Theft by Squatters and "the Wall" was being shown to be the Prison Wall and Land Theft mechanism that it is.
There are probably some other minor issues, such as Eugenics and Population reduction iniatives, but these first 4 are all important issues to the NWO/Bankster/Psychiatrists and are in their service - so long as they can keep the truth about them hidden. That was not happening on LP and increasingly so. Because of its wider audience LP was reaching a lot of people who were lurkers or fence sitters too timid to look honestly - LP has been forcing them to confront issues that they would rather pretend don't exist.
So, whether it comes back up or not, I suspect very strongly that it WAS intentionally taken down to shut off or slow down the viral spread of information inimical to the official lies.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Oh, of course I do. One of favorite amusements is roasting him.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
So, whether it comes back up or not, I suspect very strongly that it WAS intentionally taken down to shut off or slow down the viral spread of information inimical to the official lies.
It's a possibility, since Goldi doesn't appear to know what's going on. That's if she's being honest that is.
Nice to see you around again OI...
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#128. To: Original_Intent, christine, FarmFriend, wudidiz, Zipporah, robin, FormerLurker, aristeides, all (#125)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
It's a possibility, since Goldi doesn't appear to know what's going on.
I noticed a couple of weeks ago that the Site had been hacked - a set of double bars were overwritten on the "Liberty Post" logo.
That's if she's being honest that is.
While I would not make an accusation without evidence - she is a Zionist and is sympathetic first to Israel. Zionists have a tendency of lying to anyone outside their "in group" - even other Jews. Witness the NAZI collaboration of German Zionists during WWII.
So, I do not have any evidence that she is being less than forthright but the curious fact of no fund raising drives in the last 6 months, or so, is a curious datum.
"But Holmes the Dog did not bark in the night." "Exactly Watson and that is the curious fact." - from "Silver Blaze" by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
To: Original_Intent, christine, FarmFriend, wudidiz, Zipporah, robin, FormerLurker, aristeides, all
It's 1:44 pm. I show the site is still down.
Anyone know anything else?
No data.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
As much as I enjoy the crowd on 4um LP was getting and hitting a much larger audience.
It had lost it's world wide reach by over 55% in the last 3 months.
Possibly - but the problem with Alexa Ratings and Libertarian leaning Posters is that the Libertarian/Paleocon crowd will not use the Alexa Toolbar. So when dealing with those who wish to lessen how much their activities are tracked do not show up in the rankings.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
I responded to your last comment in your post first.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
So, whether it comes back up or not, I suspect very strongly that it WAS intentionally taken down to shut off or slow down the viral spread of information inimical to the official lies.
Thanks for sharing your ideas, they seem very plausible.
#143. To: Original_Intent, FormerLurker, farmfriend (#138)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
#144. To: ghostdogtxn, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#143)
I can vouch for that. She got rid of me and FormerLurker while keeping byteshredder. Not smart in my book. But hey not everyone likes me, I can't speak for FL. LOL.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
I responded to your last comment in your post first.
Call me slow today. I thought you were saying that I issued an order of some sort. As much as I despise Goldi and her arrogant hypocricy, I wouldn't order the site down even if I could. It served the purpose of shedding light on the dark twisted minds that are behind the current insanity calling itself government.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#147. To: ghostdogtxn, Original_Intent, farmfriend (#143)
I think the site is probably down because Goldi is sick of running it. She managed to recruit all of the idiot tools who share her political philosophy, only to find that they are a bunch of idiot tools. So she probably just packed up her shit and went job hunting.
That could be true as well. I'd think she'd put up a statement on the status site though and give a closing of some sort. But with her lack of honesty and lack of respect for those that gave their time to her forum, anything is possible I suppose.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
I can vouch for that. She got rid of me and FormerLurker while keeping byteshredder. Not smart in my book. But hey not everyone likes me, I can't speak for FL. LOL.
I would bet Byteshredder and moldyoldie were a hit team from someplace like the old Clowne Posse, there specifically to wreak havoc and bring the site down.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
I would bet Byteshredder and moldyoldie were a hit team from someplace like the old Clowne Posse, there specifically to wreak havoc and bring the site down.
I don't think so. They were both Freepers.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
I think she is having some serious psychological issues. She quickly banned old time members for minor infractions, while allowing newbies to run the forum and hurl the worst possible insults and vile comments imaginable against established posters.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
You said yourself that you posted both on CP and FR, right? They could have done the same. Even if not, they were certainly hell bent on attacking those posters that were speaking up the loudest against the insane direction the neocons were taking us.
Byteshredder would attack a poster, then moldyoldie would come along and cry that people were being mean to Byteshredder and attacking him, where it was the 180 opposite, as he was the attacker, and the one with nothing to say minus his trademark doctored images he would spam LP with each time he posted there.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
Buck was put on a two week time out for making up crazy stories and blaming me for being the perp and also some nasty comments. I saved the thread before she deleted his comments. He really went overboard.
You said yourself that you posted both on CP and FR, right? They could have done the same. Even if not, they were certainly hell bent on attacking those posters that were speaking up the loudest against the insane direction the neocons were taking us.
Byteshredder would attack a poster, then moldyoldie would come along and cry that people were being mean to Byteshredder and attacking him, where it was the 180 opposite, as he was the attacker, and the one with nothing to say minus his trademark doctored images he would spam LP with each time he posted there.
Yes you are correct. I don't think they were Posse types though. More like Howlin et al. Byteshredder used to be friends with Seadog, they have similar politcal beliefs. Seadog split with him to a certain extent because of Byte's behavior towards me.
Along with moldie there were a couple of others that would join the team. Moldie hated me because of my open sexuality.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
"Byteshredder would attack a poster, then moldyoldie would come along and cry that people were being mean to Byteshredder and attacking him, where it was the 180 opposite...."
Buck was put on a two week time out for making up crazy stories and blaming me for being the perp and also some nasty comments. I saved the thread before she deleted his comments. He really went overboard.
Yes he could be quite obnoxious when he got on a tear. I still liked him though. From what he told me it was not a two week time out but an outright ban.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
#173. To: FormerLurker, Original_Intent, Byteshredder, ALL (#170)
I'll bet Bser won't come here to 4um. Because he's chicken and he has no balls. Or he has chicken balls. Either way he won't come here because he's scared and his pictures will have NO power here. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scaredy-Cat Byteshredder. Won't come here 'cuz he's afraid to. Afraid he'll get embarassed for being a Chicken-shit Scaredy cat.
Betcha he won't even look. And if he does look, he'll never register. Because he's scared to. And he has no balls. None.
Even if he does register he'll never post here. Cuz he's just a fwightened witto Sycophant. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't think that LP or any of these forums are enough of a threat to warrant taking down by anyone other than perhaps some individuals who might be financially backing them. But, I'm thinking that this is more likely a problem with Goldi's server.
by anyone other than perhaps some individuals who might be financially backing them. But, I'm thinking that this is more likely a problem with Goldi's server.
If anything he'd register under a different name and try different tactics, if he has the balls to do that even.
The byteshredder handle is different from the one he uses on FR. I'll bet that is where he is posting right now. I just wish I could remember the handle he uses there.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
#181. To: wudidiz, FormerLurker, Original_Intent (#173)
(June 22, 2002): Liberty Post was officially opened to the public for the first time on June 7, 2002.
I always said I had registered in March of 02 since that was my registration date at LF. Seemed like I had registered about the same time. guess I was wrong, must have been later.
"every time government grows it is at the expense of personal liberty" - Ron Paul
#183. To: wudidiz, Original_Intent, Formerlurker (#173)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
#185. To: ghostdogtxn, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Byteshredder, yukon, all (#183)
...just trying to give a little advice, take it for what it is worth.
Yes and it sounds like good advice to me. I was mostly kidding, for what it's worth. I appreciate your input and will slow down on that sort of thing, thank you.
It's a possibility, since Goldi doesn't appear to know what's going on. I noticed a couple of weeks ago that the Site had been hacked - a set of double bars were overwritten on the "Liberty Post" logo.
That's if she's being honest that is. While I would not make an accusation without evidence - she is a Zionist and is sympathetic first to Israel. Zionists have a tendency of lying to anyone outside their "in group" - even other Jews. Witness the NAZI collaboration of German Zionists during WWII.
So, I do not have any evidence that she is being less than forthright but the curious fact of no fund raising drives in the last 6 months, or so, is a curious datum.
great bullshit improv, I enjoyed that. Uh, the lp server is down. It's a hardware thing. Carry on
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
NS1.INETEBIZ.COM ONLINE 10.38 ms NS2.INETEBIZ.COM OFFLINE 0 ms
Those are DNS name servers I believe. The IP address of 69.55.11.240 should still respond to pings, and by entering the IP address directly into the browser address bar you should be able to bring up the LP homepage, but it doesn't, meaning the LP server itself is either down or disconnected from the network.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
Question:....does your site support animated gif's/images for posting ?
Yukon...
I'm all for freedom of expression. However,....Have noticed that certain people on forums delight in bogging down discussion/flow with stupidity. Yukon would be posting for over 12 hours a day,....and posting the suicide imoti-con for 12 hours.
I recall that Goldi also made reference to receiving a warning from the site host, that they were being watched, and that further transgression of the host terms of service could result in the host shutting down the site.
I very politely told Goldi similar news during the summer of 2005. She responded by saying that she had had enough of me putting her "people" down and that she was going to ban me. I told her the truth in a nice way and she responded like a psycho. Ah well, I will shed no tears over Goldi losing her toy.
God is always good! "It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#209. To: wudidiz, formerLurker, farmfriend, ghostdogtxn, robin, Christine, all (#167)
I suspect very strongly that it WAS intentionally taken down to shut off or slow down the viral spread of information inimical to the official lies.
Interesting, do 'they' really see LP as that much of a threat, I wonder? If so, why would they take it down now?
Just a speculation but it ties back to a tidbit put out by Blackhorse or JackalopeBreeder - Blackhorse I think - that a lot of important people in the Stop the NAU Movement/Minutemen checked LP daily to see what was going on there and to read the comments of some of the Posters.
There now appears to be a big push to lock in some of the key points to establishing the NAU - Mexican Trucks are now being allowed in, there was the recent meeting in Canada, and both were exposed and subjected to extreme scrutiny and resulting in a lot of discussion - and the Shills were powerless to stop it.
As well since those types of people were visiting there they were also getting exposed to viewpoints that they would never see on Gulag Web Sites like Fraud Rezpublik.
Despite the rampaging NeoTrotskyCon Shills information was getting out and Shills were increasingly discredited.
There were a lot of people beginning to wake up - I had noticed several former tools who had woken up to what was really going on. In fact a couple, liberator comes to mind, had almost completely left the Dark Side.
As well there were a fair number of Freepers who lurked or registered and were getting an eyeful of just how controlled FR is.
From the point of view of the information controllers LP was a "problem".
The one thing that mind control through information control cannot withstand is the presence of credible alternatives to what the controllers desire people to think. When you control the information people get you control their outlook, but that control is only as good as the absence of credible logical alternatives to their enforced viewpoint.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
I was addicted to beating up on the Shills and making their life difficult.
And thank you.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
I'm all for freedom of expression. However,....Have noticed that certain people on forums delight in bogging down discussion/flow with stupidity. Yukon would be posting for over 12 hours a day,....and posting the suicide imoti-con for 12 hours.
I suspect he was paid for his time.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
If LP is truly down, or gone, then we can expect to be inundated with the very same parasites, and paid shills in a matter of days or weeks.
You will have to really pay attention to the forum, and more importantly watch closely who comes over from there.
I realize this site is starting to gain a lot of attention, and because this site is still a place where people can post things freely, it will be a major thorn in the side of those who wish to create consensus, as opposed to allowing freedom of thought, or speech.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
No way in hell anyone would pay for that transparent hack. I know for sure, indisputably that the American Government monitors and propagandizes on message boards, but Yukon is so painfully bad at it.
My guess is he donates his own time because he believes in neoconism. He freely gives his own time for propaganda.
LP has been down a long time. Are LPs servers in someones basement or are they hosted by a service? If its a professional service this king of outage just isn't possible.
I don't think that LP or any of these forums are enough of a threat to warrant taking down by anyone other than perhaps some individuals who might be financially backing them. But, I'm thinking that this is more likely a problem with Goldi's server.
The problem with that is that you are thinking logically as a person who does not feel threatened in their power by contrary points of view being discussed. You even tolerated BAC up to a point.
The people running the show in this country have to be understood for what they are - psychotic control freaks. They do not think as you or I who are willing to support the right to speak of people with whom we vehemently disagree. To that kind of psychotic mindset they are driven even further nuts by people spreading truths which might expose their criminality. The Spook community is even worse - they would classify their Mother's birthday out of their fear and mania against the open and free exchange of information and viewpoints. They have too many crimes sitting right under the surface and are put in mortal fear by the open exchange of true information which sheds light on their crimes.
However, I am willing to grant that it might well be a technical problem. However, LP got a brand new Server less than a year ago.
Utimately, in the absence of hard data the cause of LP going off line is speculation regarding any scenario.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
No way in hell anyone would pay for that transparent hack. I know for sure, indisputably that the American Government monitors and propagandizes on message boards, but Yukon is so painfully bad at it.
The mind behind the yukon person was intentionally bad at it. Every now and then he would slip out of persona and make a post that was intelligent. His function was to disrupt - although increasingly people were beginning to ignore his gambits to start a flame war. Although his apparent inability to do simple algebra was an interesting highlight.
My guess is he donates his own time because he believes in neoconism. He freely gives his own time for propaganda.
That is entirely possible as he is an Israel Firster - I also regarded him as a possible "Hasbara".
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
Seriously, I don't have much time for posting fun either, but come by once every so often, at least!
I've been trying to scale back to get more work done myself - and more reading.
Have fun at your meeting. I just lovvvvvvvvve meetings. NOT!
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
The one thing that mind control through information control cannot withstand is the presence of credible alternatives to what the controllers desire people to think. When you control the information people get you control their outlook, but that control is only as good as the absence of credible logical alternatives to their enforced viewpoint.
Yes - I saw that earlier this evening. And your post does make my point. As soon as a new tidbit of disinformation/PsyOps is planted people on the 'net are tearing it apart - it has got to be driving the PsyOps Psych's crazy(er). Their incompetent videos are transparent artifices and every one has had one or more major flaws.
"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.
"No way in hell anyone would pay for that transparent hack. I know for sure, indisputably that the American Government monitors and propagandizes on message boards, but Yukon is so painfully bad at it."
The best people to pay would be the ones that are so obnoxious that they drive people away from sites like LP and this one. I don't think the gov't is paying anybody. There are too many obnoxious people that will do it for free.
I know for a fact the government paid people to monitor web forums, and to post propaganda for the war. But the vast majority are people that do it for free.
I'm guessing smaller sites only have the free kind.
What I don't understand is why they do it. They seem to have almost no core beliefs. They kind of just go with whatever the Republican party says. Scary.
I enjoy your esteemed and at times fussbudget presence Cynicom. You pay your 'fees' merely by being here.
I am working two jobs currently and tied up, but I should be back in here this week being my usual self as I just found a mother board for my poor short curcuited laptop, and once more I will be mobile and equipted to do this. ;-)
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
I am working at White Bird Clinic http:// (Whitebird.com) and at Food for Lane County. I am also working some at the University of Oregon where I am right now. I'll be around more often quite soon. Right now I feel like throwing up at having to listen to 'the airplanes did it' fools talking today all around me in real time. 9-11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!
There, I feel much better now. ;-D
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.