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Title: Craig Begins Court Challenge
Source: Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy ... /09/26/AR2007092601566_pf.html
Published: Sep 27, 2007
Author: washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Post Date: 2007-09-27 00:37:38 by Trace21231
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Views: 141
Comments: 24

Judge to Rule Next Week on Idaho Senator's Bid to Drop Plea

EDINA, Minn., Sept. 26 -- A Minnesota judge reacted skeptically Wednesday to Sen. Larry E. Craig's bid to withdraw his guilty plea to disorderly conduct in a Minneapolis airport restroom, asking why the Idaho Republican should be allowed to renew his defense.

Hennepin County District Judge Charles A. Porter said he would not rule on Craig's request until next week, and Craig softened his pledge to resign from the Senate by Sunday if his case was not resolved, announcing that he would remain in office "for now."

"Today was a major step in the legal effort to clear my name," Craig said. "The court has not issued a ruling on my motion to withdraw my guilty plea. For now, I will continue my work in the United States Senate for Idaho."

But in the small courtroom in this Minneapolis suburb, Porter noted that Craig admitted in August that his behavior in the restroom stall constituted a crime that "would arouse alarm or resentment of others."

"That's what he did in his petition -- admit what he did," the judge said during the 40-minute hearing.

Craig's attorney, Billy Martin, argued that the senator did not consult a lawyer before making his guilty plea, which he mailed to the court. At a hearing with a lawyer representing Craig, a judge would have asked the senator questions about the incident before accepting a plea, Martin said.

But Porter cut off the attorney, saying "my speculation" is that Craig wanted to plead guilty. "If he intended to plead guilty, he would have said 'yes' " to questions about whether he knew he had committed a crime, the judge said.

Craig, who was not in court, and his lawyers must convince Porter that it would be a "manifest injustice" under Minnesota law for the senator's plea not be overturned.

Martin argued that would be so because Craig's actions were merely "innocuous" behavior, but that there was no verbal or physical contact that rose to the level of disorderly conduct. "None of those facts, Your Honor, in and of themselves constitute a crime," he told Porter.

The judge said that, if he came down off the bench running at Martin, "shaking his fist" at Martin without ever punching him or yelling at him, it would likely prompt the attorney to think the judge was trying to incite him.

"It absolutely would," Martin said.

"Well, that's disorderly conduct," Porter replied.

The judge asked only one procedural question of the prosecutors who after the hearing expressed confidence. "We feel like we have a very strong case," said Patrick Hogan, spokesman for the Metropolitan Airports Commission, which oversees the airport police. "I think the facts are clear."

Craig was arrested in June during an undercover sting conducted by police in the Minneapolis airport. A police officer said that Craig, who was traveling between Idaho and Washington, entered an adjacent restroom stall. The officer, who had been responding to complaints about illicit sex in the restroom, said that Craig slid his foot toward him and reached under the stall waving his hand in the manner of gay men seeking sex.

The senator later said he "panicked" after his arrest and agreed to plead guilty to keep the case quiet because his home-state newspaper, the Idaho Statesman, was investigating his sexual orientation.

But the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call broke the story. In the firestorm that followed, Craig, who is married, called a news conference where said he is "not gay."

If Porter accepts the plea withdrawal and schedules a trial on the original charges later this year, Craig would have to fight the criminal charges and a Senate ethics investigation. Craig has said he will not seek reelection in 2008 regardless of the outcome of his criminal case.

The ethics committee's investigation, which will not continue if Craig resigns, was demanded by the GOP leadership. Within days of the revelation of Craig's guilty plea, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) led a political assault on the three-term senator that included stripping him of his senior committee posts, calling for the ethics investigation and privately forcing him to announce his intention to resign.

McConnell declined to comment on Craig's plans to stay beyond his self-imposed resignation deadline.

Posters Note: It's not queer when Republicans do it.

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#1. To: Trace21231 (#0)

Ya need to read the article about the D Dock.........and all the criminals and near criminals that live there. :)

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-27   0:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Trace21231 (#0)

Looks like Larry Craig is going to try to beat it in court.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-09-27   0:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rowdee, christine, Zipporah, Diana, robin, Minerva, Jethro Tull, lodwick (#1)

So, if the misdemeanor conviction is reversed then he's as clean as new driven snow? Then, why was that Idaho newspaper investigating his sexual orientation? And a better question is, why would he offer that as rationale for pleading guilty? Is that supposed to inspire belief in his innocence?

We Southerners have two sayings for these occasions:

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Buh bye, you dirty kweer!

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Remember, trying to unseat a US Senator is like trying to stampede a glacier. And, we should never pass up the chance to remove one for any reason.

Commit perjury if you have to but get rid of them!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-27   2:31:30 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Trace21231, HOUNDDAWG, christine, all (#0)

The officer, who had been responding to complaints about illicit sex in the restroom, said that Craig slid his foot toward him and reached under the stall waving his hand in the manner of gay men seeking sex.

I would freak if I were a guy (or even just me) and some man starts waving his hands under my stall and starts wanting to play footsie. That would make me really nervous, makes me wonder how often this happens to regular guys who just need to go to the bathroom.

Diana  posted on  2007-09-27   4:04:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

Actually I'd run the hell out of that stall and out of that restroom as quickly as possible probably still zipping my pants up.

Diana  posted on  2007-09-27   4:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Diana (#4)

Oh, it's really creepy to be given the look of love in a restroom.

Only "not well" persons would do that.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-27   4:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HOUNDDAWG (#6)

It was a joke.

Diana  posted on  2007-09-27   7:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Diana (#4)

That would make me really nervous, makes me wonder how often this happens to regular guys who just need to go to the bathroom.

One of my friends, who works out in college gyms, is about ready to quit because of all the homos hanging out in them.

He told me he was once using the toilet when some guy popped his head over the divider and started staring at him.

There were threats involved and the guy disappeared.

"He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." - G.K. Chesterton

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-09-27   7:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)

The judge said that, if he came down off the bench running at Martin, "shaking his fist" at Martin without ever punching him or yelling at him, it would likely prompt the attorney to think the judge was trying to incite him.

"It absolutely would," Martin said.

"Well, that's disorderly conduct," Porter replied.

Ya gotta like this judge's attitude.........if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it was probably acting queer!

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-27   11:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)

Maybe it’s me, but I find it delightful that Craig is choosing to fight his plea and remain in that den of perverts. Today, he personifies the face of the GOP. I look at men like him and realize we have absolutely no chance to save this nation from itself. And I'm OK with that :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-09-27   11:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

Right.

The appearance of impropriety is no longer the standard. Now it's, "Hey I beat the rap with a bunch of fancy lawyer tricks so, I'm good to go! Can I have my committee chairs back?"

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-27   14:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rowdee (#9)

Ya gotta like this judge's attitude.........if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it was probably acting queer!

Craig gave the "I'm a promiscuous bathhouse regular" signal.

There was no mistake.

If the police officer says Craig was cruising him then I have to believe a cop over a US Senator.

After all, the senate is surrounded by concubines and the ratio of women to men in DC is about 6 to 1. Even slobs like Ted Kennedy are spoiled and have come to expect service from young climbers who are attracted to power.

And, even his lecherous nephew Kennedy-Smith gets sex by telling girls that either they do the trick or he's gonna get his Uncle Ted to drive 'em home! ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2007-09-27   15:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)

LOL.

rowdee  posted on  2007-09-27   15:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Trace21231 (#0)

A single casual frolic in a public restroom does not make a man a homosexual. My friends and I have all done the same thing and we are certainly not gay. This liberal hysteria over Craig is nothing but a diversion.

boilerplate  posted on  2007-09-28   22:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: boilerplate (#14)

You are so over the top funny no one here even cares that you like to suck cock. Peace, nigger.

" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-09-28   22:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Trace21231 (#0)

McConnell declined to comment on Craig's plans to stay beyond his self-imposed resignation deadline.

McConnell is as queer as a three dollar bill. His arranged marriage with ChiComm Elaine (where did she find that name?) Chou is a joke.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-09-28   22:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Dakmar (#15)

Sissies like yourself wouldn't know the difference between homosexuality and normal male locker room style bonding.

boilerplate  posted on  2007-09-28   22:33:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: boilerplate (#17)

It's not gay if its only a couple of times per month.

Larry Craig was Framed!

Trace21231  posted on  2007-09-28   22:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: boilerplate (#17)

male locker room style bonding.

Perhaps "bonding" would be better received at ELPEE.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-09-28   22:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Trace21231 (#18)

It's gay if its premeditated or if it interferes with your marriage.

boilerplate  posted on  2007-09-28   22:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: boilerplate (#20)

What about going to gay bars? Are you funny if you do that?

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-09-28   22:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Minerva (#21)

What about going to gay bars? Are you funny if you do that?

Not if you have a purpose there beyond drinking or casual sex. I often stop in at one near my home to discuss politics and socialize. This doesn't make me gay.

boilerplate  posted on  2007-09-28   22:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Diana (#4)

I would freak if I were a guy (or even just me) and some man starts waving his hands under my stall and starts wanting to play footsie. That would make me really nervous, makes me wonder how often this happens to regular guys who just need to go to the bathroom.

Don't forget the peeking into the stall through the crack in the door. This guy is guilty as hell, but if he gets a new trial, which is unlikely, he'll probably get off. It's irrelevant now anyway. He's the O.J. of pervert senators.

Mekons4  posted on  2007-09-28   23:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: boilerplate (#22)

Not if you have a purpose there beyond drinking or casual sex. I often stop in at one near my home to discuss politics and socialize. This doesn't make me gay.

It's amazing that you can do everything gay guys do and still not be gay. Did you get vaccinated or something?

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-09-29   9:24:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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