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Title: Ross Perot had HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and he got 20% of the vote.
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Published: Nov 6, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-11-06 11:52:06 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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#4. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
Ross Perot had HUNDRES OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS and he got 20% of the vote.

According to wiki Perot was actually leading both Bush and Clinton in the polls, but Perot damaged his popularity by the way he performed in the debates.
The opposite is true for Dr. Paul. He performs quite well in the debates ( when given a chance to speak) and his popularity surges thereafter.

scrapper2 posted on 2007-11-06 12:11:17 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#19. To: scrapper2 (#4)
I personally think that Perot through the election personally. He was leading both repubs & demos as you say, and then he self-destructed for some reason. I don't know if that was the plan from the beginning or if he was persuaded to do it.
but 2 incidents cause me to think this. First, he held this bizarre press conference where he said that the republicans were trying to destroy his daughter's wedding. he said there were republican spies at this wedding, and the way he spoke, it was paranoid & insane. Second, I think his performance in debates after that was purposely intended to make him look bad.
I remember GHW Bush in a debate against Clinton in 1992 checking his watch in an exaggerated manner and pacing back & forth like a fool. the tv was focusing on that. I think he was helping Clinton to win.
Paul is IMHO not a part of the ruling clique's apparatus. But I still agree with Itsalmosttoolate, that he doesn't really stand a chance. They'll kill him before he gets in if he does somehow win. But they've got election fraud systems with the voting machines. They've got the mass media to smear him. they've got so many ways of taking him down.
I still think it's fun to support Paul though.

Red Jones posted on 2007-11-07 7:08:14 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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#20. To: Red Jones (#19)
Good analysis, Red, it seems only a world war or a Wall Street crash will bring dowm the puppet masters behind the curtain.
Ron Paul ought to watch his back, or he might pull a Ross Perot if his family is threatened.

Zoroaster posted on 2007-11-07 07:22:28 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Red Jones (#19)
I remember GHW Bush in a debate against Clinton in 1992 checking his watch in an exaggerated manner and pacing back & forth like a fool. the tv was focusing on that. I think he was helping Clinton to win.

I agree Red, I said Bush threw the election before the votes were taken ... I wonder what he's really been up to since then.
Look at Dole's pathetic campaign ... it's all fixed.
Ron Paul is the only candidate worth considering and who knows what the results might be if he would happen to win the nomination, considering the crooked electronic voting machines ?

noone222 posted on 2007-11-07 08:45:30 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#32. To: Red Jones (#19)
I personally think that Perot through the election personally. He was leading both repubs & demos as you say, and then he self-destructed for some reason. I don't know if that was the plan from the beginning or if he was persuaded to do it.

President George Bush I put a hit out on him. Perot had criminal goods on Bush, and Perot's election would derail the elite's scheme for a totalitarian government with its cashless society, and the elite sitting back and raking in their dough by so-called "government" via e-money, the chip, et al. No one would be able to buy or sell, etc.

"The Octopus and the Physicist
Vincent A. LoDato, Ph.D.
Probably within a 20 year period, E-Money will come about or a unified one world currency. We will be using smart cards. At present the basic problem with these smart cards is that they can be duplicated.
In order to stop the duplication one must embed chips that cannot be duplicated. Hence it is imperative to have chips with design rules of the order of 0.1 microns and they must be mass produced in a cost effective manner. No technology exists today to produce these Dram, Asic, etc. chips in mass production.
The only way to do this is via an x-ray lithography process and a unique step and repeat tool. Such tools will cost over $15,000,000 per tool and would have an extremely high throughput with at least a 70% efficiency, and no one person, company or nation could buy one in an undetected fashion. There will be no more counterfeiting.
This is why this high cabal, need to control this chip making and the x-ray lithography process.
Several years ago the head of Sematech personally told me over the phone that there is to be only one stepper manufacturer in the world for x-ray aligners. I didn't understand it; and thought that it didn't make sense... but it does now.
These tools are the printing presses for E-MONEY, the plates are the masks, etc... and the boys must control them entirely...so gold etc will have a different place in the world as it has today.
There will be a global centralized bank with several information reserve banks controlling regions of the world. Chip Tatum hinted about "the Corporation" and this centralized Global banking system. He said the cabal has members living in Jupiter Island in Florida. We have found that Douglas Dillon has a summer house at Jupiter Island. (It is alleged that he has connections with the Dominica Non Secret Echelon Project--See lower notes.) If what Tatum wrote in his Pegasus file is correct, he connects the Bush family to the Corporation. Nevertheless, the "Corporation" that Tatums speaks about fits directly with Echelon, and the secret NON USA base in Dominica. Tatum states that our past President George Bush is pushing "this Idea" through his NWO agenda. He also shows a letter signed by George Bush authorizing some WET operations.
Here are excerpts from the Pegasus File:
I copied this directly from the site:
"The so-called Pegasus group's organizational structure as provided by Tatum, demands recounting in detail. The various presidential orders, which led to the formation and operation of the covert activities in which Tatium and others participated, are significant for they constitute a secret government within a government. This is the power that hides behind to open face of democratic government. Some have called this power base "the Octopus". Activities include high level narcotics trafficking, illegal transfers of ultra-high tech weaponry, money laundering on a massive scale and an odd "hit" or alignment to keep wobbly-kneed individuals on the straight and narrow."
"...the question remains:What did George Bush intend to do with his 'black' $3.8 billion. What was the ultimate purpose of the operation? Perhaps some of the money was to be used to grease palms and otherwise finance Bush's bid for the presidency following the completion of President Reagan's second term. Maybe it was used to finance other lucrative projects. Perhaps it was used to be used to inject finanical muscle into another, grander scheme, of which Tatum has recently spoken, involving George Bush's "scope and mission" paper for a New World Order.
A copy of the "scoping" paper supplied to Tatum by George Bush outlines the formation of a Corporation whose purpose is to "...provide a central network of information, analysts and strategists on an international basis in pursuit of world order and economic stability". The scope of the Corporation involves four features:
1)Centralization of informational services.
2)Analysis of data by region-specific analysts;
3)Provided recommendations based upon analysts' reports by international experts;
4)Provide international master plan for world growth and economic stability.
The Corporation is to be privately owned with a board of directors "consisting of Twelve members, elected annually by the shareholders. In addition there are five departments: "Data Resources, Political Management; Economic Management; Military Management; Environmental Management". 14
The foot note 14 in the Pegasus file says. It is impossible to judge the veracity of this document for a number of reasons. Principally, the name of the Corporation is not stated and the document itself is typed on blank A4 paper running for three pages. Readers must make of it what they will."
In another post it claims that Ross Perot was the target of this WET operation if he proceeded with his 1992 bid for the presidency. These are strong allegations. I have no way to check them out, but nevertheless they are published on the web. (And Chip Tatum has credence.) Further investigations are needed by law enforcement agencies.
Also here is a copy of the Chip Tatum letter allegedly signed by George Bush....we copied this off the internet..just copy paste and click to the site..had a hard time trying to direct link.
http://>www.accessone.com/~rivero/POLITICS/MENA/TATUM/EBush1a.gif">
VERY IMPORTANT TO CHECK THIS LINK SHOWS PRESIDENT BUSH'S SIGNATURE
Copied from the above site
"THE WHITE HOUSE
D G Chip Tatum Codename: Pegasus
You are hereby ordered into service of the United States Goverment.
It has been determined that [redacted], has illegally obtained documents which are of vital concern to the security of the United States and selected Allies of the United States. It has therefore been determined by Finding of the National Security Council that these documents must be recovered.
Due to this determination, you are authorized to use whatever means necessary to recover said documents and insure that this criminal is brought to justice. You are authorized to exceed existing regulations and FTM's to accomplish this mission.
If loss of life occurs as a result of the performance of your duties, you shall be exempt and protected from prosecution.
[Signature]
George Bush"
Is this letter real?
We came upon two sources that validated this letter for the following three reasons:
(1) No one in their right mind would publish "this" letter in public, unless it was true. It is a Federal Crime to forge U.S. government documents, especially those signed by the President of the USA, (2) The letter is undated, according to an internet source, by law an undated letter means an open operation with no date to terminate the operation, and finally (3) from another internet source who "personally knows" the Perot Family, the individual informed us, "the reason why Ross Perot dropped out the Presidential race of 1992 is because of this Letter, i.e. his life was threatened, and not by some Crazy group but "Via information from this Letter." Conclusion: this letter real and valid. (Is this what our country came too?...ordering a hit on a decent American????)
The Question arises: How did Ross Perot get these "Top Secret Documents" and did he violate his national security clearance?
It is a matter of public record that in the 1980s, President Regan asked Ross Perot to look into the MIA problem from the Vietnam War. Mr. Perot was given the highest clearance to check all government files. During the course of his investigation documents surfaced concerning Vice Present Bush and drug trafficing, the CIA etc. Mr. Perot realized that the Vice President at that time broke the law, and there were several confrontations.
Vice President Bush said he did what he did for national security reasons. Mr. Perot did not buy it, and realized that the Criminal Code of the USA was broken by the VP. He also knew..if a federal employee knows of a crime, he is obliged by law to report it and if not he, the employee, commits a criminal act himself.
Consequently Mr Perot followed the law and did not violate his security clearance or any laws of the USA. He was just trying to be a "good citizen." and a "good federal employee".
Remember Mr. Perot was a "special government employee" under President Regan, so he did report it. We are told that George Bush had Mr. Perot's security clearance pulled. When VP Bush became President he knew Ross Perot had documents that would incriminate him in these drug dealings etc. When Mr. Perot was going to run for president, this evidence was going to go public. In conclusion this is what precipitated the above letter.
Here is more about Chip Tatum, George Bush, and Ross Perot. This is copied from Nexus magazine:
PLANNING FOR RETIREMENT
Since 1985, when he first became aware of the Enterprise drug- smuggling, Tatum began collecting documents, audiotapes and videotapes for his "retirement". He was acutely aware that most deep-cover agents do not survive long in what is a very dirty game at a high-stakes poker table.
Tatum says that, in 1992, President Bush instructed him to "neutralize" presidential runner Ross Perot, but he refused to do so. Tatum turned over a copy of an incriminating tape to President Bush, explaining that it would not be released - providing that he, his family and Perot were kept safe. He also told the President that copies of the tape had been placed in six different locations worldwide, saying, "if I didn't contact these capsule-holders by a certain time each year, they are to be sent to the addresses on the packaging". He closed the conversation by stating that when he originally "placed the packages, I gave explicit instructions that if I asked for them to be sent back to me, they were to send them to the addresses on the packages." This, Tatum reasoned, would avoid intimidation or torture.
At present Chip Tatum has disappeared from sight, and his whereabouts unknown. ....."
The Octopus and the Physicist by Vince Lodato
http://www.totse.com/en/conspira...onal_analysis/162115.html
This is a story that doesn't get enough air time, IMO.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2007-11-07 09:53:09 ET (1 image) Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#33. To: Red Jones (#19) (Edited)
It's more than fun to support Ron Paul, he's our only hope. Perot did not have the internet, he did not have the young people.

More importantly, Perot does not have the strong character than Ron Paul has. Perot has always been overly fond of money, starting with his marriage to a wealthy family.

robin posted on 2007-11-07 09:53:50 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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