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Title: Society Hates Smart People
Source: Scribd
URL Source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/8778/Why- ... gent-People-Tend-To-Be-Unhappy
Published: Nov 30, 2007
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2007-11-30 07:36:09 by YertleTurtle
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Views: 4530
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

- Ernest Hemingway, author and journalist, Nobel laureate (1899-1961)

Hemingway, who took his own life in 1961, knew his share of both intelligent people and of unhappiness. He lived through two world wars, the Great Depression, four wives and an unknown number of failed romantic relationships, none of which would help him to develop happiness if he knew how.

As Hemingway's quote was based on his life experience, I will base the following speculation on both my personal and my professional experience as a sociologist. Not enough study exists to quote on this subject.

Western society is not set up to nurture intelligent children and adults, the way it dotes over athletes and sports figures, especially the outstanding ones. While we have the odd notable personality such as Albert Einstein, we also have many extremely intelligent people working in occupations that are considered among the lowliest, as may be attested by a review of the membership lists of Mensa (the club for the top two percent on intelligence scales).

Education systems in countries whose primary interest is in wealth accumulation encourage heroes in movies, war and sports, but not in intellectual development. Super intelligent people manage, but few reach the top of the business or social ladder.

Children develop along four streams: intellectual, physical, emotional (psychological) and social. In classrooms, the smartest kids tend to be left out of more activities by other children than they are included in. They are "odd," they are the geeks, they are social outsiders. In other words, they do not develop socially as well as they may develop intellectually or even physically where opportunities may exist for more progress.

Their emotional development, characterized by their ability to cope with risky or stressful situations, especially over long periods of time, also lags behind that of the average person.

Adults tend to believe that intelligent kids can deal with anything because they are intellectually superior. This inevitably includes situations where the intelligent kids have neither knowledge nor skills to support their experience. They go through the tough times alone. Adults don't understand that they need help and other kids don't want to associate with kids the social leaders say are outsiders.

As a result we have many highly intelligent people whose social development progresses much slower than that of most people and they have trouble coping with the stressors of life that present themselves to everyone. It should come as no surprise that the vast majority of prison inmates are socially and emotionally underdeveloped or maldeveloped and a larger than average percentage of them are more intelligent than the norm.

Western society provides the ideal incubator for social misfits and those with emotional coping problems. When it comes to happiness, people who are socially inept and who have trouble coping emotionally with the exigencies of life would not be among those you should expect to be happy.

This may be changing in the 21st century as the geeks gain recognition as people with great potential, especially as people who might make their fortune in the world of high technology. Geeks may be more socially accepted than in the past, but unless they receive more assistance with their social and emotional development, most are destined to be unhappy as they mature in the world of adults.

People with high intelligence, be they children or adults, still rank as social outsiders in most situations, including their skills to be good mates and parents.

Moreover, they tend to see more of the tragedy in the communites and countries they live in, and in the world, than the average person whose primary source of news and information is comedy shows on television. Tragedy is easier to find than compassion, even though compassion likely exists in greater proportion in most communities.


Poster Comment:

I can remember back when I was in middle school (jr. high in those days) and high school, where I noticed the schools were very good at identifying and developing athletes. The ambitious grinds did well making good grades.

But, oddly, the most intelligent, sensitive and imaginative...for them there was no place.

I remember sneaking into my school file when I was 12 and finding my IQ was listed as 126. Even so, I was required to take shop, where I rolled metal and made a wooden candleholder that caught on fire the first time I lit a candle.

All the girls were required to take Home Economics. After they graduated high school, all the boys were supposed to go work at the local steel mill, and the girls stay home and cook and clean. Only now there aren't many jobs at the steel mill, and haven't been for a long time.

Thank God for computers. Geeks and nerds have become rich, and I hope they take over the world.

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#72. To: Original_Intent (#70)

Are any of those sources available to us home gardener's?

If you're willing to buy 5000' at a time. Let me walk out to the barn and get my catalog. I'll get you an address.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   17:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#70)

I could not grow some of the melons I grow in my climate zone without it.

It's hard to make money on melons around here. They grow them year round in S. Alabama. We can't compete here in the north.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   17:34:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: duckhunter (#71)

They didn't sell very well fresh. They make an interesting salsa though.

They don't do too bad around here but it is a different market. We have a lot of small market farmers who, like you do it as a second job, or sell through gourmet markets and farmer's markets.

People are creatures of habit - it is like Watermelon - the best and sweetest ones I grow are yellow fleshed but trying to get some people to eat them is like a trip to the dentist. "Oooooooooooh it's not red." Like, uh, duh. Nevermind that until up until about 1900 that the yellow was the more common variety to be found and generally have a higher brix number.

For the record my favorite is "Early Yellow Moonbeam" which is a "Seeds of Change" developed seed. They run about 3 to 8 pounds and are honey sweet when fully ripe.

A really good Cantaloupe, hard for me to grow here, but less problem in your longer growing season is "Old Israeli" - which is a white fleshed cantaloupe that runs to about 9 pounds. A very complex flavor - kind of tropical.

This year I want to try Canoe Creek Colossal - which is an old heirloom hardshell cantaloupe than can reach 20 pounds. I think it would be neat to grow a cantaloupe the size of a watermelon.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   17:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Original_Intent (#70)

Are any of those sources available to us home gardener's?

Try this place. I believe they deal in smaller quantities.

http://www.robertmarvel.com/

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   17:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: duckhunter (#72)

If you're willing to buy 5000' at a time.

That's what I was afraid of - I use about 50 feet per year.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   17:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: duckhunter (#75)

Thank you - I will definitely check it out.

Are you familiar with Farmtek?

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   17:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Original_Intent (#74)

I think it would be neat to grow a cantaloupe the size of a watermelon.

I've seen a few around like that. Never eaten one though.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   17:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Original_Intent (#77)

Are you familiar with Farmtek?

I'm on their mailing list. I get a catalog every season.

Check out www.vegetablegrowersnews.com for all kinds of resources.

Robert Marvel sells 2400' of red mulch for $75.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   17:51:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Original_Intent (#74)

. "Oooooooooooh it's not red.

I get that same reaction with tomatoes.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   17:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: duckhunter (#73)

It's hard to make money on melons around here. They grow them year round in S. Alabama. We can't compete here in the north.

A couple that might work depending upon your market:

Ogen, sometimes Ha'Ogen: This is a smooth skinned green fleshed melon that averages around 3 pounds. They are classified as a "Dessert Melon" because of their high sugar content - which can run to 14%. Complex flavor - smells citrusy and has overtones of pineapple in the flavor. They ripen to a very pretty mottled gold and green and are picked on the full slip. Very productive and can produce up to 10 melons per vine although the most I've gotten is 6 - but that was container grown. It is originally from Hungary but is grown in Israel for the European Gourmet Market. I grow them every year and they are a staple of my garden because of their reliability. The only time I ever saw one for sale here, about 10 years ago, they were 2 bucks a pound. Moderate resistance to Powdery Mildew.

For a white fleshed melon the same size and general coloration try Collective Farm Woman - another eastern european import.

For your own use the fabled French Charentais is a must grow. It is the only perfect 10 I have ever grown. The Savor Hybrid variety is one of my favorites as well as the original unhybridized.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: duckhunter (#78)

I think it would be neat to grow a cantaloupe the size of a watermelon.

I've seen a few around like that. Never eaten one though.

Me neither - but according to Seed Savers they are supposedly quite acceptable.

Another large one, green fleshed, which is supposed to be gourmet grade is "Montreal Market" which can reach 15 pounds - which is the largest green fleshed I have seen. I tried growing it this year but I only had two plants and moles got to the roots, dug through them, and killed them.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: duckhunter (#80)

. "Oooooooooooh it's not red.

I get that same reaction with tomatoes.

I can believe it - even though some of the best tasting are among the yellow and orange varieties.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: duckhunter (#79)

I'm on their mailing list. I get a catalog every season.

Check out www.vegetablegrowersnews.com for all kinds of resources.

Robert Marvel sells 2400' of red mulch for $75.

That is actually almost worth my while. A 50 foot roll is 20 bucks. With proper storage that would last me forever.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:10:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Original_Intent (#82)

Another large one, green fleshed, which is supposed to be gourmet grade is "Montreal Market" which can reach 15 pounds - which is the largest green fleshed I have seen. I tried growing it this year but I only had two plants and moles got to the roots, dug through them, and killed them.

My main pest problems with melons are coyotes and deer. I know it sounds unlikely, but I've had coyotes go through my personal garden and ruin an entire crop. I paid my son and nephew $10 a head to sit in the field and shoot the nasty boogers. After a couple hundred dollars and no noticable decline in the population, I gave up.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   18:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Original_Intent (#81)

which can run to 14%. Complex flavor - smells citrusy and has overtones of pineapple in the flavor. They ripen to a very pretty mottled gold and green and are picked on the full slip.

Now I'm hungry ;)

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   18:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: duckhunter (#85)

My main pest problems with melons are coyotes and deer. I know it sounds unlikely, but I've had coyotes go through my personal garden and ruin an entire crop. I paid my son and nephew $10 a head to sit in the field and shoot the nasty boogers. After a couple hundred dollars and no noticable decline in the population, I gave up.

They're hunting rodents which is one of their staple foods. Get rid of the rodents and you get rid of the coyotes. I would guess that your garden was attracting a large rodent population and they tore it up hunting rodents.

You can also buy repellants for both rodents and coyotes but I can't vouch for them not having used them.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:18:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Original_Intent (#84)

With proper storage that would last me forever.

Just keep the unused roll out of sunlight, and dry, and it should keep indefinitely.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   18:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: duckhunter (#86)

which can run to 14%. Complex flavor - smells citrusy and has overtones of pineapple in the flavor. They ripen to a very pretty mottled gold and green and are picked on the full slip.

Now I'm hungry ;)

A good melon will do that to you. Now you know why I grow them despite my climate not being the best for it.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:20:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Original_Intent (#87)

You can also buy repellants for both rodents and coyotes

Blood meal and putrified egg solids are the main products that I'm familiar with. They work OK, but have to be reapplied after every rain. They're kind of expensive as well.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   18:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: duckhunter (#90)

You could check out Peaceful Valley Farm Supply and see what they have - or just for ideas. They specialize in organic farm supply and might have a cost effective repellant.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Original_Intent, duckhunter, gardners here (#89)

I've had some success using garlic powder, and cayenne pepper as critter repellents.

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Lod  posted on  2007-11-30   18:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Original_Intent (#91)

You could check out Peaceful Valley Farm Supply

Will do. I'm off to supper with the family. Have a good weekend.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-11-30   18:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: duckhunter (#93)

Bon Apetit'!

I'm out of here as well. I spent more time online then I planned on.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: lodwick, duckhunter, gardners here (#92)

I've had some success using garlic powder, and cayenne pepper as critter repellents.

Thanks. It works on some and some it doesn't. Pickle Juice poured down mole holes will drive them off temporarily. They also don't like big wads of human hair.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   18:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: duckhunter, Original_Intent, ratcat (#21)

YertleTurtle, christine, Minerva, robin, ratcat

I am shocked ratcat is a woman.

angle  posted on  2007-11-30   18:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Original_Intent (#95)

They also don't like big wads of human hair.

I've collected from beauty shops also - Mrs.L just didn't like the look in the front lawn...

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Lod  posted on  2007-11-30   19:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: angle (#96)

I am shocked ratcat is a woman.

And an avid gardener. You've posted a lot on LF - her Avatar is the family cat "ratcat". If it is still there, and hasn't been archived, the thread "The Accidental Gardener" spells it out.

"How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb? One to hold the giraffe and one to fill the bathtub with brightly colored power tools." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-11-30   20:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: duckhunter (#21)

I didn't realize those you pinged, other than christine, were female.

YertleTurtle...is not female.

Fortune favors the prepared mind. A zombie, however, prefers it raw.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-11-30   20:13:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Original_Intent (#98)

"The Accidental Gardener"

I do remember afterall.

RE: Moles.

Moles eat earthworms and grubs. I had lots of japanese beetle and used "milky spore" about 7 years ago. Milking spore takes care of Jap Beeetle grubs naturally. Now, no more moles. I think there's a definite correlation. Are you Original_Intent on LF also?

angle  posted on  2007-12-01   19:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: angle (#100)

I don't have any problems with Japanese Beetles but do have tons of worms. I'm thinking of trying one of those noisemaker gizmos.

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-02   0:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Hats off to a guy who helped to hunt many species in africa that much closer to extinction....

Ninpo  posted on  2007-12-02   0:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Ninpo (#102)

Yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Nothing like eating lower life forms. They're delicious!

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-02   0:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: wudidiz (#62)

http://www.vidmax.com/index.php/videos/view/4507

Amazing video of a human being that is half man, half tree

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2007-12-03   0:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: YertleTurtle (#99)

YertleTurtle...is not female.

They had me doubting so I went and checked things. I can't rely on my memory anymore.


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2007-12-03   3:07:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: TwentyTwelve (#104)

Amazing video of a human being that is half man, half tree

That poor man.


My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places. -- Winnie the Pooh

farmfriend  posted on  2007-12-03   3:10:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Original_Intent (#4)

I suspect that you, like the rest of us, have to operate at "idle" socially a lot of the time to deal with "normal" people.

LMAO! That about sums it up.

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Critter  posted on  2007-12-03   7:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: YertleTurtle (#99)

YertleTurtle...is not female.

Now I know. Thanks.

duckhunter  posted on  2007-12-03   9:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Critter (#107)

I suspect that you, like the rest of us, have to operate at "idle" socially a lot of the time to deal with "normal" people.

LMAO! That about sums it up.

It's about the only thing you can do - find the humor in it. Still it is frustrating to constantly have to make allowances for the slower pace at which other people pick up on things - thus having to avoid delicate nuance and twists of subtle word play that just leave them looking at you as though you are strange. Sigh!

I still remember with great fondness a conversation I had with a friend in the service. We were in the break room at the facility, I forget what inspired the play, we worked at but we were carrying on a conversation entirely based in double meanings and hidden sarcasm. The conversation taken at face value made sense as mundane and unhumorous discussion but we were having a ball and cracking up playing the game of working the conversation on both levels - the superficial and the actual intended meanings. Everyone else in the room was giving us strange looks and quizzical expressions because they could not see or hear the humor of the play. Sadly such pleasantries are all too few. So, I get frustrated at rarely being able to just "hit the gas", get the cylinders really popping, and not have to worry if the other person can keep up.

It just hit me thinking of that what is so frustrating and galling about being an elisted man in the service. I was talking to a retired Master Chief Petty Officer the other day, himself no slouch, and that combined with this rambling reply caused a d'oh moment. The frustration comes from having to treat some dullard officer, whom you outclass intellectually, with a seeming respect, frequently unearned, while they treat you as a not too bright child. That is also why the military cannot hold on to a lot of its best and brightest in the enlisted ranks - most simply will not put up with it. Not to put down those that remain - as many are very bright, and some truly exceptional, but the real creative thinkers that I knew in the service virtually all got out after one or at most two hitches. To some degree that holds true for the Officer Corpse as well - many of the officers for whom I had genuine respect would do their 5 years and get out. I recall a comment made by an O-4 (Major, or Lieutenant Commander in the Navy and Coast Guard) that 3 out of every 5 Officers he had served with were incompetent.

"When I die I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather - not screaming in terror like his passengers." - Unk.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-12-03   12:21:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Original_Intent (#81)

For your own use the fabled French Charentais is a must grow. It is the only perfect 10 I have ever grown. The Savor Hybrid variety is one of my favorites as well as the original unhybridized.

I need some advice as to the correct time to pick these. I seem to do it too early or too late.

"There are indeed two political parties in the US. The state-lovers and the freedom-lovers." - ghostdogtxn

angle  posted on  2008-01-27   16:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: angle (#110)

I need some advice as to the correct time to pick these. I seem to do it too early or too late.

Picking a Charentais can be tricky because like a lot of French Melons they either don't slip (separate) from the vine until they are over ripe or do not slip at all.

With a Chartentais they will change color from a green to a greenish gray. This is the critical period because you want them ripe but not over ripe. Smell is one indicator - they will, after they have begun changing color, develop a heavenly sweet aroma so one way is to give them a smell test. Some varieties (the old heirloom original) will start changing to a mottled gray and cream color - that combined with the smell is your best indicator. If they smell overpoweringly ripe they are ripe. The sweetness should be kind of ambrosial and a bit sharp - if they smell too heavy you've waited too long. It is just a knack that is gained with experience. I can give you some of the indicators but it takes a little experience and even then you won't be right every time.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-01-28   4:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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