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Title: Christmas Traditions and Where They Began
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URL Source: http://www.socyberty.com/Holidays/C ... ons-and-Where-They-Began.63403
Published: Dec 2, 2007
Author: lanne
Post Date: 2007-12-02 08:14:19 by lanne
Keywords: holiday, christmas, traditions
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Comments: 7

Brightly wrapped packages, eggnog, turkey with all the trimmings, and gathering with family and friends. We all do things during the holiday season that we have come to look at as our own traditions. But how did some Christmas traditions come to be?
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#1. To: lanne (#0)
But how did some Christmas traditions come to be?

Nice try, but look some more please. The so-called 'tree' comes from Babylon and the wife of Nimrod, who claimed that Nimrod appeared to her after his death. And a full grown evergreen tree sprang from the roots of a dead tree and etc. etc.
Try; http://www.muhammadspeaks.com/Nimrod.html
Nimrod married his mother Ester when Moses (Musa) was sent to the devils 4,000 years ago). This meant the end of the Blackman's power to keep them in their boundaries of Europe. This brought them out of the caves putting them on the road to the conquest of Asia, (Black, Brown, Red and Yellow man).
Nimrod killed his father and began sleeping with his mother, Ester, known today as the holiday called Easter.
She had children by her son Nimrod, making Nimrod his own father and son, which was the beginning of the lie that God and son are one And the same. It's true that this made Nimrod, his own father but the father and the son could never be identical. This is also where the lie originated of the "Immaculate Conception" woman giving birth without the agency of man.
Nimrod and his mother were worshipped by the people, and knowing that if they found out that she was bearing her son's children they would not respect her, she lied telling the people that the spirit was visiting her, giving her babies.
The people, being paganish, believed those lies thus establishing a holiday called Easter commemorating her birthday. They used the sign of the rabbit, which is an over-sexed animal; and eggs representing the first stage of the "embryo" chicken, which is capable of laying eggs without a male, was also used.
Nimrod would go into Asia robbing the brothers of their wealth. Using his unalike attracting power, he was able to steal and divide the brothers. The cross originated as a symbol meaning death and dividing the four brothers, so that Nimrod could rule. The cross is used in most European nations today in their flag in the same form.
Christmas being Nimrod's birthday has all the signs; the evergreen meaning everlasting life for the Caucasian; the ornaments signifies all the riches and pretty things that the Blackman has. The star on the top of the tree, meaning the devils brain as being powerful enough to keep the Blackman divided, or in the cross.
Santa Claus is the symbol of Nimrod bringing gifts back to Europe from Asia. A pagan religion was adopted by the Jews in Judaism. They didn't want the Blackman's religion, Islam, nor would they accept the Yellowman's religion, Buddhism, the whiteman had to invent himself a religion that would fit his nature, for his being evil, his religion had to be flexible enough to allow him to practice his evil and worship statues, drink blood (wine), eat (body flesh), etc.
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The above is a pretty interesting site, but it does twist things more than a little. Everything that they do list about the traditions of what you call Christmas but which is correctly named Xmas is correct, and is spoken of in the Bible and condemned.
See also; http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/CGG/ID/504/Christmas -Tree.htm
When you put up that tree, tack a wreath on the door, and maybe hang mistletoe from the lintel, what are you signifying? John Williamson, in "Christmas Greenery" in the Dallas Morning News (December 6, 1986), encapsulates the pagan origin of decorating with evergreens:
Evergreen trees were important fertility emblems for pre-Christian ceremonies marking the winter solstice. People from ancient societies believed that by decorating their homes and temples with evergreen plants, such as holly, ivy and mistletoe, they were helping to carry the diminished sun through a critical period. . . . Mistletoe was the most sacred plant of the Druids. . . . [It] was given great reverence . . . because it grows on the venerated oak. The custom of kissing under the mistletoe comes from the ancient idea that mistletoe is the oak's genitals. And so it was believed that an embrace under its glistening berries was sure guarantee of a fruitful union. . . . The decoration of Christmas trees is a survival of pagan tree veneration. . . . For centuries before Christianity, holly was . . . used . . . for celebrating their midwinter Saturnalia.
While all the greenery in a home decked out for Christmas is beautiful to look at, these customs have nothing at all to do with Christ. In fact, they are sheer paganism directly descended from ancient rites practiced long before Jesus' birth (see Jeremiah 10:1-5). Do you really want to give the impression that you are worshipping a tree? Or that you desire a fruitful union because you give someone a kiss under the mistletoe?
Two key figures in the origin of Christmas are Nimrod, a great grandson of Noah, and his mother and wife, Semiramis, also known as Ishtar and Isis. Nimrod, known in Egypt as Osiris, was the founder of the first world empire at Babel, later known as Babylon (Genesis 10:8-12; 11:1-9). From ancient sources such as the "Epic of Gilgamesh" and records unearthed by archeologists from long-ruined Mesopotamian and Egyptian cities, we can reconstruct subsequent events.
After Nimrod's death (c. 2167 BC), Semiramis promoted the belief that he was a god. She claimed that she saw a full-grown evergreen tree spring out of the roots of a dead tree stump, symbolizing the springing forth of new life for Nimrod. On the anniversary of his birth, she said, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts under it. His birthday fell on the winter solstice at the end of December.
A few years later, Semiramis bore a son, Horus or Gilgamesh. She declared that she had been visited by the spirit of Nimrod, who left her pregnant with the boy. Horus, she maintained, was Nimrod reincarnated. With a father, mother, and son deified, a deceptive, perverted trinity was formed.
Semiramis and Horus were worshipped as "Madonna and child." As the generations passed, they were worshipped under other names in different countries and languages. Many of these are recognizable: Fortuna and Jupiter in Rome; Aphrodite and Adonis in Greece; and Ashtoreth/Astarte and Molech/Baal in Canaan.
During the time between Babel and Christ, pagans developed the belief that the days grew shorter in early winter because their sun-god was leaving them. When they saw the length of the day increasing, they celebrated by riotous, unrestrained feasting and orgies. This celebration, known as Saturnalia, was named after Saturn, another name for Nimrod.
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If you truly wish to learn the facts about this, simly type nimrod christmas tree tammuz Semiramis easter or any combination of these words into any search engine and simply read the details.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
richard9151 posted on 2007-12-02 14:24:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: richard9151 (#1)
The so-called 'tree' comes from Babylon and the wife of Nimrod, who claimed that Nimrod appeared to her after his death. And a full grown evergreen tree sprang from the roots of a dead tree and etc. etc.

Put a cork in it Bible-boy.

Dempsy posted on 2007-12-02 14:36:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: richard9151 (#1)
The custom of kissing under the mistletoe comes from the ancient idea that mistletoe is the oak's genitals

eeeeewwww. guess I won't be wearing this

kiki posted on 2007-12-02 15:08:45 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Dempsy, *Bible facts* (#2)
Put a cork in it Bible-boy.

Sorry, the Bible has no opening for a cork, and this info did not come out of a bottle, so I fail to see how I can do as you wish. However, I am sure that you can find something in the Xmas traditions of Babylon that will permit you to wish upon it and see if something can be.... ummmmm... worked out? granted? passed over? (passover ... get it?)
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
richard9151 posted on 2007-12-02 17:35:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: kiki (#3)
eeeeewwww. guess I won't be wearing this

Understood. Amazing how much learning what is behind so many of our 'traditions' changes how we look at them.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
richard9151 posted on 2007-12-02 17:36:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: richard9151 (#1)
Wrong. Again. As always.
Nimrod my ass.

Paul Revere posted on 2007-12-02 18:07:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Paul Revere (#6)
Wrong. Again. As always.
Nimrod my ass.

You know, I was cutting you some slack, cause I really thought you were someone consumed by anger..... silly me.
But its not anger, is it. It is hatred. You are an apologist for all of the traditions and non-sense that came out of Babylon and have been passed off on the people of the world as so-called Christianity.
And it is not so much that you read the Bible; it is what you think (or rather, were convinced of by others) you saw revealed in the plain speak and straightforward words in the Bible. All of that secret crap that justifies the non-sense of Mammon and Baal.
And you truly do hate anything that strikes at your safe little go-along-to-get- along life style. After all, it is just business, isn't it.
Well, I never feel sorry for those who permit themselves to be consumed by hate. You become your own worst enemy, and, what is self-fulfilling about it is, you have to live with yourself. Plus, you have to stand for judgement based on that hate and what it drives you to. Pobre usted.
And because of this, nothing in the historical record, or, in the Bible, means anything to you. Do not bother such as you with the truth, cause those traditions are so much more important.
Enjoy them, for they are your reward, and the only you will receive, bozo.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
richard9151 posted on 2007-12-03 9:58:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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