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Title: Review of January 5th, 2008 ABC GOP Debate
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Published: Jan 5, 2008
Author: buckeye
Post Date: 2008-01-05 21:57:08 by buckeye
Keywords: Ron Paul
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Quick synopsis

  • Ron Paul, my focus during this event, was tired, slow to articulate his points, and easily overwhelmed by aggressive partisans.
  • McCain appeared to withdraw his insistence on amnesty, and then spent excess time interrupting other candidates who were differentiating themselves from his former positions — in defense of what he had apologized for.
  • Romney was effective at articulating his technical perspectives on issues (medical care, immigration) but clearly will not deviate from the Bush doctrines of war.
  • Thompson was reserved and came across as a fat cat at times. He smirked at Ron Paul several times.
  • Giuliani was about the same as he has always been. He smirked and laughed mirthlessly at Ron Paul several times.
  • John McCain was especially demeaning to Ron Paul during discussion of war.
  • Smirking and chuckling was prevalent when Ron Paul was talking about the Federal Reserve and inflation.

Illegal Immigration

This is my main reason for posting this thread.

  • It became abundantly clear that no one on the stage would deal with illegal immigration adequately. PC rules the day. we are not being heard yet.
  • Ron Paul lost an incredible chance to demonstrate his resolve on this issue, but he came close by emphasizing welfare.
  • The other GOP members are weak-kneed and left themselves with massive openings for abandoning their commitments to deal with immigration.
  • Huckabee talked about building a fence, and sounded like he's been listening to Gilchrist; his credibility is very low in my opinion.
  • The American people have NOT communicated their anger effectively with these people.

Ron Paul's demeanor

This was a fair debate with an open format.

  • Rushed, combative, on the defensive in many cases.
  • Unable to keep up with cross-talk and interruptions.
  • Should have worn a red tie, I'm hearing.

Ron Paul's victory

  • He kept his temper when badly mistreated not by ABC, but by the other participants.
  • He kept his humor, and joked several times.
  • He did articulate the threat of inflation/monetary-abuse.
  • He did talk about civil liberties and preemptive war.
  • He did talk about free enterprise and the Constitution.
  • He is the only candidate truly planning on implementing change.

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#16. To: buckeye, ALL (#0)

(from Buckeye's article)

Ron Paul's victory

He kept his temper when badly mistreated not by ABC, but by the other participants.

He kept his humor, and joked several times.

He did articulate the threat of inflation/monetary-abuse.

He did talk about civil liberties and preemptive war.

He did talk about free enterprise and the Constitution.

He is the only candidate truly planning on implementing change.

thank you from the bottom of my heart Buckeye for writing and posting this article
you gave me all the information I wanted, you are a great help
and you did an excellent job!

I read every word you wrote, and where you summed up Ron Paul's victory, I am immensely pleased
It is a superb victory, Ron Paul did excellent!!
Great

as for where you felt he was lacking, I am not concerned
I don't think those lacks amounted to anything
altho I like the suggeston he wear a red tie

It sounds to me like anyone not acquainted with Ron Paul,
who watched this debate, had a chance to get to know him
The man and what he stands for
Which is all we want from these debates
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   10:25:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#18. To: palo verde (#16)

... thank you from the bottom of my heart Buckeye for writing and posting this article you gave me all the information I wanted, you are a great help

Well thank you Palo Verde. I wish I could have done better, but I did not take notes (I regret that) and my coverage was vague.

On the idea that he did well in the eyes of critical audiences, I don't know about that, and I suspect not. But they are blinded by the party pundits and free media support the government has received. Millions and millions of Americans know their government has gone mad, and they will be interested in the fact that Ron Paul is different. That's a start.

On the other hand, I refuse to support any politician blindly, and I will continue to criticize Ron Paul and other candidates as the election process continues.

buckeye  posted on  2008-01-06   10:31:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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#25. To: buckeye (#18)

Millions and millions of Americans know their government has gone mad,
and they will be interested in the fact that Ron Paul is different.
That's a start.

very perceptive post, Buckeye, I congratulate you
our government has gone mad, and my hunch is half our citizens are aware of it consciously, half feel it vaguely
which is why Ron Paul's sanity and solutions will be experienced by them as wonderful rain to thirsty earth
GO Ron GO
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06 10:57:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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