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Title: Review of January 5th, 2008 ABC GOP Debate
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Published: Jan 5, 2008
Author: buckeye
Post Date: 2008-01-05 21:57:08 by buckeye
Keywords: Ron Paul
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Comments: 103

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Quick synopsis

  • Ron Paul, my focus during this event, was tired, slow to articulate his points, and easily overwhelmed by aggressive partisans.
  • McCain appeared to withdraw his insistence on amnesty, and then spent excess time interrupting other candidates who were differentiating themselves from his former positions — in defense of what he had apologized for.
  • Romney was effective at articulating his technical perspectives on issues (medical care, immigration) but clearly will not deviate from the Bush doctrines of war.
  • Thompson was reserved and came across as a fat cat at times. He smirked at Ron Paul several times.
  • Giuliani was about the same as he has always been. He smirked and laughed mirthlessly at Ron Paul several times.
  • John McCain was especially demeaning to Ron Paul during discussion of war.
  • Smirking and chuckling was prevalent when Ron Paul was talking about the Federal Reserve and inflation.

Illegal Immigration

This is my main reason for posting this thread.

  • It became abundantly clear that no one on the stage would deal with illegal immigration adequately. PC rules the day. we are not being heard yet.
  • Ron Paul lost an incredible chance to demonstrate his resolve on this issue, but he came close by emphasizing welfare.
  • The other GOP members are weak-kneed and left themselves with massive openings for abandoning their commitments to deal with immigration.
  • Huckabee talked about building a fence, and sounded like he's been listening to Gilchrist; his credibility is very low in my opinion.
  • The American people have NOT communicated their anger effectively with these people.

Ron Paul's demeanor

This was a fair debate with an open format.

  • Rushed, combative, on the defensive in many cases.
  • Unable to keep up with cross-talk and interruptions.
  • Should have worn a red tie, I'm hearing.

Ron Paul's victory

  • He kept his temper when badly mistreated not by ABC, but by the other participants.
  • He kept his humor, and joked several times.
  • He did articulate the threat of inflation/monetary-abuse.
  • He did talk about civil liberties and preemptive war.
  • He did talk about free enterprise and the Constitution.
  • He is the only candidate truly planning on implementing change.

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#2. To: buckeye (#0)

Thanks buck...

In his behalf, Paul is near my age and we do tire easily.

On the other hand Paul has also lived more history than the rest and he is a gentleman.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-05   22:02:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#2)

Thanks buck...

... Paul has also lived more history than the rest and he is a gentleman.

very nice post, Cynicom
and true!
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06   10:34:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: palo verde (#19)

he is a gentleman.

Palo...

Paul is not the best looking candidate, nor the most articulate, but he has more personal accomplishments than all the others put together, plus, Paul is a gentleman.

A gentleman, first, last and always. I cannot say that about the others.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-01-06   10:51:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: Cynicom (#23)

Palo...

Paul is not the best looking candidate, nor the most articulate,
but he has more personal accomplishments than all the others put together,
plus, Paul is a gentleman.

A gentleman, first, last and always. I cannot say that about the others.

what an exquisite and true post you wrote, Cynicom
I thank you for it
All my love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2008-01-06 10:59:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#23)

A gentleman, first, last and always.

I agree. His gentlemanliness was obvious during the wolfpack mentality of the other debaters. I don't think it's a good forum for him, as the jackals don't play by the rules. It gives MSM an opportunity to discredit Paul rather than showcase him. The hee-hawing of Guiliani was almost to much to bear.

angle  posted on  2008-01-06 11:19:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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