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Title: McCAIN MADNESS
Source: NewsWithViews.com
URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin426.htm
Published: Feb 8, 2008
Author: By Pastor Chuck Baldwin
Post Date: 2008-02-08 12:53:43 by TwentyTwelve
Keywords: McCain, Juan McAmnesty
Views: 3047
Comments: 26

www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin426.htm

McCAIN MADNESS

By Pastor Chuck Baldwin

February 8, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

A few weeks before Super Tuesday, my friend Howard Phillips asked me who I thought the Republican Presidential nominee would be. I predicted John McCain. With the results of Super Tuesday now history, most political pundits are also predicting that the Arizona senator will gain the Republican nomination for President. And with Mitt Romney now out of the race, McCain is all but assured the nomination. One did not need to be a seer to figure this one out.

For one thing, President George W. Bush all but destroyed whatever conservative influence was left in the GOP. Peggy Noonan is right about that.

Furthermore, the capitulation and compromise of principle by the Religious Right has also significantly sealed the death warrant of conservatism within the GOP. For the sake of not offending George Bush or losing whatever seat at the table the various leaders of the Religious Right felt they had, their spirit of resistance waned to the point that the very name "Christian Conservative" has lost all meaning, not to mention power.

As a result, Republicans have come to accept Big Government, runaway federal spending, the Welfare State, the Warfare State, the Nanny State, empire-building, gargantuan trade and budget deficits, warrantless eavesdropping, the loss of 4th Amendment rights, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

Therefore, how could anyone expect the vast majority of Republican voters to suddenly rediscover a huge commitment of conviction to conservative principles? Add to that question the fact that there is only one true conservative/constitutionalist who made it to the Republican primaries: Congressman Ron Paul. And virtually the entire media and political establishment pummeled Congressman Paul to the point that his limited success in the race can be categorized as nothing short of miraculous.

Make no mistake about it: the establishment wants one of its own to succeed George Bush. In order for that to happen, they must manipulate the primaries to ensure that, no matter who wins in November, one of their fellow elitists will still wield power in Washington, D.C. On the Democratic side, both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama fit the bill. And on the Republican side, John McCain is the ultimate insider.

A long-standing member of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), John McCain will pursue the goals and ambitions of the globalists with a vengeance. As Pat Buchanan said recently, "John McCain will make Dick Cheney look like Gandhi." Buchanan is right on with that prediction.

Despite a liberal, Big Government track record, many Republican "conservatives" who have always been critical of John McCain are already beginning to warm up to him, feeling that his nomination is inevitable. Include in this list such notables as Grover Norquist, Tony Perkins, and fellow CFR member Richard Land.

Fortunately, not all of the conservative "talking heads" have jumped on the McCain bandwagon. Include in this list: Ann Coulter, who said she would campaign for Hillary Clinton if McCain is the Republican nominee; James Dobson, who said he would never vote for John McCain--no matter what; and Mr. Republican Cheerleader himself, Rush Limbaugh.

Then there is Mike Huckabee: the candidate to whom the evangelical George Bush robots have gravitated. Huckabee is every bit the Big Government liberal that is John McCain. In fact, Huckabee and McCain have developed a very close friendship, according to numerous sources. Many are even predicting that Huckabee will be McCain's running mate, in order to dupe evangelicals into accepting the McCain candidacy. (I have been saying this myself for months.) Even Rob Schenck said this about Huckabee: "After careful and prayerful consideration, I have concluded that an evangelical vote for Mike Huckabee is a vote for John McCain, and a vote for John McCain will be a disaster for this country."

But just who is this man, John McCain?

John McCain's father and grandfather were both admirals in the U.S. Navy. John was schooled in one of the most elite boarding schools in America. He graduated from the Naval Academy where he ranked 894th out of 899 students.

According to Joel Skousen's World Affairs Brief, February 1, 2008, "[John McCain] used nepotism to get ahead: When he was rejected by the National War College, he used his father's contacts with the Secretary of the Navy to make them reconsider." Skousen also notes that "McCain cheated on his first wife after she had a severe accident. He then divorced her and married his multi-millionaire mistress, whose daddy bought McCain a spot in the Congress."

It has also never been explained why the son and grandson of Navy admirals would not rise to the rank of Admiral himself. (He exited the Navy as a Captain.) Was it his numerous adulterous affairs or his violent temper? Or both?

John McCain's biographer Robert Timberg chronicles McCain's numerous sexual affairs with subordinates both when he was an Executive Officer and later Squadron Commander. Obviously, such fraternization is a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Skousen and many others have chronicled McCain's violent temper. Even as a young man, McCain was "a strikingly violent man." Timberg quotes McCain describing his propensity for violence, even as a youngster, saying, "At the smallest provocation I would go off into a mad frenzy, and then suddenly crash to the floor unconscious."

McCain says his vicious temper was transformed after being held as a Prisoner of War by the North Vietnamese. There is no doubt that John McCain was tortured by his Vietnamese captors, but it also seems clear, by both the written and oral records of many, that McCain spent the bulk of his captivity collaborating with his captors.

It is more than interesting that former POW John McCain would use the power of his senate seat to stop the investigation and pursuit of American MIAs in Vietnam. What would possess a former naval officer to do such a thing? In fact, a group of Vietnam veterans has uploaded a web page dedicated to exposing the truth regarding John McCain's record on this matter. See it here.

That John McCain still has a vicious temper is well known. We can all remember him singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran," to the tune of the Beach Boys hit song "Barbara Ann." He also said North Korea should be threatened with "extinction." He often boasts of America's 100-year war with Iraq and talks of pursuing enemies "to the gates of hell." There is no doubt, John McCain is one mad man.

Furthermore, McCain's position on a host of issues is extremely problematic for the future of America. On immigration, John McCain joined with Ted Kennedy to sponsor an amnesty bill for illegal aliens. He voted to give social security dollars to illegal aliens. His Hispanic Outreach Director, Juan Hernandez, is a dual American-Mexican citizen widely known for his "Mexico First" declarations.

He repeatedly voted against the Bush tax cuts. He co-authored the McCain/Feingold campaign finance bill that was ruled to be an unconstitutional infringement of the First Amendment. Regarding the Second Amendment, the president of the NRA called John McCain the "worst 2nd Amendment candidate," and Gun Owners of America gives McCain a grade of F-.

John McCain co-sponsored the energy tax bill (along with his senate buddy Joe Lieberman), which would dramatically increase the cost of gasoline. He supports radical global warming legislation. He joined with Democrats (Gang of 14) to block the attempt to confirm conservative, strict constructionist judges. In 2000, he called Christian leaders "agents of intolerance." He has received the endorsement of the pro-abortion Republicans for Choice Political Action Committee. And let's not forget that John McCain was ringleader of the infamous Keating Five ethical scandal, which cost taxpayers more than $160 billion.

Consider, too, the top donors to John McCain's campaign. One will find many of the same multinational corporations that support Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton also supporting John McCain. Include in this list Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, Lehman Brothers, and JP Morgan Chase & Co. (By comparison, the top contributors to Ron Paul's campaign are [in order]: 1. Members of the U.S. Army, 2. Members of the U.S. Navy, 3. Members of the U.S. Air Force.) Source: click here

(And, in case one is interested, the same big Arkansas conglomerates that supported Bill Clinton also support Mike Huckabee.)

Even New York Post D.C. Bureau Chief Charles Hurt wrote, "[I]f history is any guide, the McCain we've seen of late on the campaign trail is the most conservative McCain we'll ever see."

To vote for John McCain is madness!

Therefore, both social and fiscal conservatives--along with evangelical Christians--will have no one from either the Republican or Democrat parties for whom to vote this November. What, then, will they do? To vote for the "lesser of two evils" is no longer a legitimate option. There is no lesser in a McCain versus Clinton/Obama race. In fact, Ann Coulter might be right that in such a race, Hillary is the lesser of two evils.

What, then, are we to do?

First, Ron Paul should abandon his bid for the Republican nomination and declare himself a candidate for the Constitution Party nomination. If he did, he would doubtless receive the nomination and his campaign would continue to build excitement, donations, and momentum right up to November. (Ron Paul's supporters should do everything they can to influence Dr. Paul to shake off the dust of the GOP and lead his fellow constitutionalists on a mighty crusade for a Third Party victory!)

Should Ron Paul decide to remain in the McCain-led GOP, conservatives and constitutionalists should rally around the most viable option available to them. And that option is to support the Constitution Party nominee, whoever he is. (They will select their nominee in April in Kansas City, Missouri.) As the nation's third largest political party, the CP has the potential to be on all 50 state ballots and it is absolutely certain that the CP will nominate a constitutionalist candidate in the similitude of Ron Paul.

One thing is certain: with John McCain as the GOP standard-bearer, Christian conservatives and constitutionalists cannot vote for either the Republican or Democrat candidate this year. Staying home and not voting is an admission of defeat and should be dismissed out-of-hand.

2008 just might be the year to break the two-party stranglehold on American politics and vote for an independent conservative constitutionalist. And the platform and vehicle for this revolution already exists in the Constitution Party.

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#1. To: TwentyTwelve (#0) (Edited)

Hitlery is the chosen one and that is why we are getting McInsane on the Republocrat Ticket. He is being (s)Elected to LOSE in the general (s)Election. He is nuts and will be voted against heavily. Of course Hitlery is no better, but that is the situation being set up. He is 2008's "Bob Dole" and "John Kerry" - the designated Faux Candidate. With Ann, CIA, Coulter, and Rush, the pedophile faggot drug addict, Limbaugh getting on board the Hitlery Train the game plan is clear to those who will just look.

Ron Paul needs to jettison the Republocrat Party and I think going Constitution Party is the best bet to really upset the Apple Cart.

The establishment has tried to kill the Constitution Party as they have the Libertarian and the Perot movement. While there are Moles in the Constitution Party there are lot of good people there too.

Constitution Party is the right name to fit with Ron Paul's message and there are a lot of us willing to follow. The Constitution Party name conveys the right viewpoint - the Constitution IS and Should Be observed as the law of the land and we have a government gone criminal which ignores the law in regards to themselves while enforcing it capriciously upon the citizenry.

Either we rise our banners and go on the march or we resign ourselves to slavery, tyranny, misery, and death.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-08   14:21:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent, FOH, FormerLurker (#1)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-08   14:25:46 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#1)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-08   14:27:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TwentyTwelve (#0)

McCAIN MADNESS

Wow! To be honest, with what I knew about McCain, I really, really had no idea! Madness does not come close to describing him, or, anyone that would actually vote for him.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-02-08   14:27:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TwentyTwelve, christine, Wudidiz, robin, Indrid Cold, Pinguinite, Kamala, FOH, James Deffenbach, scrapper2, FormerLurker, all (#2)

FROM THOMAS PAINE'S "THE AMERICAN CRISIS":

THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated. ...

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-08   14:33:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Original_Intent, _____ (#5)

“Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.” – Thomas Paine (American Crisis, No. 1, 19 December 1776)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-08   14:47:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve (#1)

Ron Paul needs to jettison the Republocrat Party and I think going Constitution Party is the best bet to really upset the Apple Cart.

If I could agree more, I would.

_______  posted on  2008-02-08   14:56:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Either we rise our banners and go on the march or we resign ourselves to slavery, tyranny, misery, and death.

There is one other option which isn't quite so peaceful or pretty.

_______  posted on  2008-02-08   14:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: all (#5)

Married to the Mob.

Ever since the 2000 election, when Vietnam combat veteran John McCain burst onto the scene in the Republican Presidential primaries as a 'moderate alternative' to George W. Bush, it seems that he has led a charmed political life. George Bush is known to detest McCain personally, but he has needed him. Liberals held their fire because every now and then McCain throws them a bone (in fact John Kerry wasted valuable time and effort trying to convince McCain, who was the chair of the Bush campaign in Arizona, to defect and run on a ticket with him; what it also meant was that when John Kerry picked John Edwards for the ticket, everyone knew he was a second choice.) Independents ooze over the conservative McCain (and conservative he is, just look at his voting record,) as if they think he is one of them. Even Bush backers, like Pat Robertson (who thoroughly trashed McCain in South Carolina) have warmed up to him.

And one of McCain's biggest assets, according to most of these people is that he eschews negative campaigning.

There is a good reason for that though. It's a tale that involves organized crime, corruption and murder. Let's say that John McCain never runs a negative ad against his opponents because he doesn't want them to dig too hard.

It's because McCain is where he is because of his marriage to his second wife, Cindy. No, Cindy Hensley McCain is not where the story begins. She was a young 25 when McCain married her (he was 43). According to the Arizona Republic on June 5, 1999, McCain joked that his marriage was based on a 'tissue of lies.' Both he and she had lied to each other, she claiming to be older than she was and he claiming to be younger. Yeah, I know-- what a good foundation for a marriage to start off on. To their credit the McCains however have stayed together. Or maybe there are other reasons...

One wonders what Cindy told McCain about her father. When did McCain learn how his father-in-law Jim Hensley made his fortune? Sooner or later he had to be dealt in on the 'family jewels.' After all, they helped finance a run for Congress and not long after that for the Senate.

Jim Hensley and his brother Eugene went to work after World War II for Kemper Marley, a wealthy wholesale liquor distributor. Marley, in fact, had once been a bookie, getting his start working for the Transamerica Wire Service, a betting service established by mafiosi Gus Greenbaum (who was murdered with his wife when their throats were slashed in bed in 1958). Until 1947, liquor was rationed by the government. Apparently Marley did quite well in spite of the restrictions, and in 1948 the reason why became clear. Eugene and Jim Hensley were convicted of falsifying records on behalf of Marley's distributorship, United Liquor (along with fifty other Marley employees) to conceal the illegal distribution of hundreds of cases of liquor. Jim Hensley got a six month suspended sentence.

In 1953, Jim Hensley, then the General Manager for United Liquor, was once more charged for doing the same thing again. Marley paid for top notch legal representation though (future Supreme Court Chief Justice William Rehnquist.) Hensley still went to prison, but took the fall when the rest of the company was cleared. According to an article in American Mafia.com, Marley rewarded Hensley for his loyalty to the organization:

When Hensley strolled out of the joint, Marley bought his silence with a lucrative Phoenix-based Budweiser beer distributorship.

That distributorship and the rest of Marley's empire did very well over the decades for both Hensley and Marley, making both men multi-millionaires.

In fact, Marley was interested in more than just liquor. In 1976, then Gov. Raul Castro, a Democrat, appointed Marley, then a billionaire and the state's richest man, to the state racing commission.

And that's when one of those pesky investigative reporters got in the way. The reporter's name was Don Bolles and he worked for the Arizona Republic. Bolles discovered a land fraud ring and other crimes that appeared to lead to Sen. Barry Goldwater and other movers and shakers in Arizona. And he discovered that Kemper Marley, newly appointed to the State Board Racing Commission, had connections to the Mafia. In fact, Marley was a close associate of Peter Licavoli, the mob boss for Arizona. Marley had also served as Chairman of the Board for Valley National Bank, which helped bankroll Bugsy Siegel's construction of the Flamingo in Las Vegas. Digging into Marley's past also uncovered his earlier work for Gus Greenbaum. The revelations forced Marley to resign from the commission.

And Kemper Marley and his associates in the Mafia weren't people whose business you interfered with lightly.

On June 2, 1976, Bolles climbed into his car and was blown apart by a bomb under the driver's seat. Pieces of his body were strewn around the parking lot. Bolles amazingly survived for eleven days and said to investgators on the scene, "They finally got me. The Mafia. Emprise. Find John (Harvey) Adamson."

Adamson was later convicted of the murder. But who hired him? That trail was never really followed up on, according to members of the Arizona Project, a group of reporters who began looking into mob ties after the murder.

Following Bolles' death, more than 30 journalists from the then-newly formed Investigative Reporters and Editors (IRE) group arrived in Phoenix to carry out their late colleague's work....

Don Devereux, another Arizona Project reporter, feels the IRE team may have trusted the authorities too much. "We accepted very uncritically their scenario. In retrospect, we were very naive to get lead around. It really isn't something that we should be running around congratulating ourselves about," says Devereux of the IRE investigation...

"The biggest disservice we did to Bolles was not paying more attention to him," says Devereux. "His dying words were words we should have glommed onto a little more seriously, because when he was lying on the pavement he said: `Adamson, Emprise, Mafia. ... Emprise was almost Bolles' white whale. He was obsessed by them...."


Emprise, a Buffalo, NY based sports concessionire with known mob ties, had a circuit of Greyhound racing tracks in Arizona. So who was named to the Racing Commission was of vital interest to Emprise. Enter Kemper Marley. Exit Kemper Marley, courtesy of Bolles.

The Phoenix police theorized that Marley wanting revenge enlisted the help of local contractor Max Dunlap. Dunlap then allegedly hired Adamson to carry out the bombing. Adamson claimed that plumber James Robison assisted him.

Over the years, Dunlap and Robison have maintained their innocence. Dunlap remains incarcerated.** Although, Robison gained acquittal in a retrial, he is still awaiting release from prison on a related charge. Meanwhile, the state paroled Adamson [in 1996], and he disappeared into the federal witness protection program.

The Phoenix police never even arrested Marley, who died in 1990.


**-- Dunlap has since died in prison after the source article was published.

Meanwhile, Jim Hensley remained a close confidante and associate of Kemper Marley. In fact, it was Bolles who wrote that the Hensleys had bought Ruidoso Downs horse racing track in New Mexico on behalf of Marley. Eugene Hensley later sold the track to a buyer linked to Emprise (linked here as described in the Phoenix Gazette, Jan. 4, 1990.)

One thing that Marley and Hensley didn't have-- governmental authority themselves. They had to depend on their friends in government to help them out. But then Hensley got a gift-- his daughter married the former Navy pilot and decorated veteran of the Vietnam conflict, John McCain. Hensley knew right away what to do. According to an article published in 2000 by the Phoenix New Times,

[McCain] retired from the military in 1980, divorced his first wife, wed Arizona native Cindy Lou Hensley and moved here to plunge into the world of politics. His first job in Arizona was as a public affairs agent for Hensley & Company, one of the nation's largest beer distributors. He was paid $50,000 in 1982 to travel the state, touting the company's wares. But he was promoting himself as much as he was Budweiser beer. A better job description might have been "candidate."

Then in 1982, McCain ran for Congress. That takes some quick money, and McCain had access to it-- thanks to his father in law (whose employees at his liquor distributorship were 'persuaded' to donate thousands of dollars to McCain), and one of Hensley's friends, Charles Keating of the Lincoln S&L (I won't get into the Lincoln S&L scandal here because it is pretty well known by now that McCain was one of the 'Keating Five.') To seal the deal, Jim Hensley and Cindy Hensley McCain invested $359,100 in one of Keating's projects. In fact, when McCain first ran for the Senate, in 1986, even Kemper Marley, through his son Kemper Jr. (who was now running United Liquor-- Marley himself had become politically radioactive) donated money to him.

It has been said that the Mafia never really left, they have just moved upscale. That is certainly the case in Las Vegas, where the casinos are corporations and run in a businesslike manner (so a Bugsy Siegel would be an anachronism, but I'm also not sure I'd want to make an enemy out of some of the folks who have those offices on the top floor.) The original Cosa Nostra may have been largely broken up, but the remnants of the Mafia are still around, mostly in fat family bank accounts and people they have helped push into positions of power, and John McCain is privvy to one and is the other.

_______  posted on  2008-02-08   15:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: _______, Original_Intent (#8)

CALL ME CRAZY…

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-08   15:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: richard9151 (#4)

It's too bad that you don't have to pass a psychiatric evaluation to be President. That would disqualify Mad Mac on the spot.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-02-08   15:23:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: _______, Original_Intent (#7)

The Constitutionalist Party ??

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-08   15:27:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: _______, Original_Intent (#7)

REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS LET RON PAUL DOWN

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-08   15:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TwentyTwelve (#10)

Ron Paul at the CPAC conference was fired up like have never seen him before.

I'm extremely proud of Dr. Ron Paul.

I'd follow him anywhere, anytime without even having to ask me.

The establishment has neglected, mocked, ridiculed, avoided and cheated him (us).

I sense everything going to the next level, so our prayers for Dr. Paul need to also intensify.

I hope everyone has their things in order and an independent plan in case certain events unfold.

_______  posted on  2008-02-08   15:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: _______ (#14)


Ron Paul speech at CPAC 2/7/8 part 1 of 3

Ron Paul speech at CPAC 2/7/8 part 2 of 3

Ron Paul speech at CPAC 2/7/8 part 3 of 3

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-08   15:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent (#1)

With Ann, CIA, Coulter, and Rush, the pedophile faggot drug addict, Limbaugh getting on board the Hitlery Train the game plan is clear to those who will just look.

I'm convinced the 'conservative' media wants Hillary elected...a Hillary presidency would mean BIG RATINGS for Rush, Sean, FauxNews, and all the rest. Their lavish lifestyles wouldn't be affected in the slightest by another Clinton in the White House. As for the rest of us..? We're screwed.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2008-02-08   15:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: _______ (#8)

There is one other option which isn't quite so peaceful or pretty.

Water the Tree...the last option...and, soon, the only option.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

"Corporation: An entity created for the legal protection of its human parasites, whose sole purpose is profit and self-perpetuation." © IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2008-02-08   17:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: who knows what evil (#16)

>>a Hillary presidency would mean BIG RATINGS

No kidding, and not only that, fill the coffers of and unite the Republicans all over again.

Imagine the books Rush et al are going to write blaming Hillary for what happened on Dubya's watch.

Hillary is the best thing to happen to all the gabmeisters and Republicans.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-02-08   18:29:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TwentyTwelve, FOH, Wudidiz, robin, christine, all (#12)

The Constitutionalist Party ??

No, the The Constitution Party

Since they deemphasized their Christian Fundamentalist origins, not eliminated it but expanded their reach, they are a growing alternative to the Republocrats and the moribund, CoIntelPro infested, Libertarian Party. They already have some organization and standing and with Ron Paul's personal base it makes it viable overnight. It would also be a good launching platform for a takeover of the Congress. As someone who is much Paleocon as I am Libertarian it is a natural home and I might change my registration to it anyway. This could be the start of something BIG. I suspect Ron Paul might be leaning that way as he is a Constitutionalist and a Christian. As well he would be welcome there and they have already said so.

Of course he could always be President of The Republic of Texas.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-08   19:38:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: IndieTX, _______, TwentyTwelve, christine, all (#17)

There is one other option which isn't quite so peaceful or pretty.

Water the Tree...the last option...and, soon, the only option.

"The tree of liberty must, from time to time, be watered by the blood of Patriots and Tyrants. It is its natural manure." ~ Thomas Jefferson

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-02-08   19:42:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#19)

Since they deemphasized their Christian Fundamentalist origins, not eliminated it but expanded their reach, they are a growing alternative to the Republocrats and the moribund, CoIntelPro infested, Libertarian Party. They already have some organization and standing and with Ron Paul's personal base it makes it viable overnight. It would also be a good launching platform for a takeover of the Congress. As someone who is much Paleocon as I am Libertarian it is a natural home and I might change my registration to it anyway. This could be the start of something BIG. I suspect Ron Paul might be leaning that way as he is a Constitutionalist and a Christian. As well he would be welcome there and they have already said so.

I concur. Use the Republican Party for everything its worth, and then drop it like the washed up whore that it is.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-02-08   19:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#1)

i saw some comments here regarding the CP platform recently where the CP writes of returning to murika's 'Biblical foundations'. This is a red flag for many, and although i think thyere well intentioned, i think they should leave religion out of it. sounds too much like huckabee or bush who claim to 'talk to God' or worse yet, Hagee, who is on some zionist armagedden trip. Just leave religion out of it, they should.

I voted peroutka/baldwin in 04. Since Paul is going back to congress i doubt he will run. I will cast my vote for Don Grundman, he is a good guy. http://truthusa.org

"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-02-08   20:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#19)

Of course he could always be President of The Republic of Texas.

That's a sweet dream.

Thanks.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution
Freedom*Peace*Prosperity

Lod  posted on  2008-02-08   20:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent (#19) (Edited)

Couldn't have expressed it better. Well said. So very true and possible IMO.

Perry's a Bilderberger don't forget.

Clintons are CFR/TRILAT/BILDER...

Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...

FOH  posted on  2008-02-08   21:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Vitamin Z (#21)

bttt

_______  posted on  2008-02-09   2:34:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: _______ (#25)

Here is some information weapons to sink John McCain. Please Focus People.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-02-09   2:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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