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Title: 40% of American Jews "not driven by the word of God," says McCain supporter John Hagee
Source: AMERICAblog
URL Source: http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/ ... n-jews-not-driven-by-word.html
Published: Mar 3, 2008
Author: John Aravosis
Post Date: 2008-03-03 16:08:34 by aristeides
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40% of American Jews "not driven by the word of God," says McCain supporter John Hagee
by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/03/2008 12:12:00 PM ET
McCain supporter John Hagee:

I think if I could put a dividing line, the Orthodox and Conservatives who have a Torah appreciation give us wholehearted support. The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.
And the liberal agenda is they are pro-abortion. They're pro-homosexual. They're pro-gay marriage -- they want men to marry men and women to marry women -- and their difference with me is not really what I'm doing with Israel. Their hostility to me is poisoned by their liberalism. They take a liberal position that poisons their view of what we could be doing for Israel.

Note that a bit more than one-third of American Jews (around 41%, per the latest PEW survey) belong to the Reform (or "liberal," as Hagee would say) denomination of Judaism. More here.
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#1. To: aristeides (#0)
Satan and Fawell are waiting for you in Hell Hagee, the bloodcurdling mansion of time.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
Zoroaster posted on 2008-03-03 16:53:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: aristeides (#0)
In college I went to a party by a Reform synagogue. They knew how to have fun.
'He will make Cheney look like Gandhi.'
U.S. conservative pundit Pat Buchanan, imagining presidential hopeful John McCain in the White House.
robin posted on 2008-03-03 16:55:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: aristeides (#0)
Hagee is a pathetic glutton of a mobster who is allowed to steal from US taxpayers because he's a zionist.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 17:17:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: aristeides (#0) (Edited)
Hagee is an immoral fat pig of a con-man and a thief who is sending a clear message that being a zionist gives people a free pass to lie, steal and murder.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 17:43:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: nobody (#3)
Steals from the taxpayers? How so?
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 18:11:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: rowdee (#5) (Edited)
If his zionist church scam is tax-exempt, he's stealing from taxpayers while running a church that mixes politics and religion. If not, he's still a part of the taxpayer theft that is zionism.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 18:15:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: nobody (#6)
"If", "scam", "stealing" "accomplice"......please explain. Has the IRS challenged him on anything?
Are your shorts in an uproar because people pay tithes to his church?
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 18:23:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: rowdee (#7)
You asked a question, you got an answer. Now you're looking even needier.
If his zionist church is tax-exempt, he's stealing from taxpayers while running a church that mixes politics and religion. If not, he's still a part of the taxpayer theft that is zionism.
Now, why should you get all worked up and pointlessly obsess about my underwear, is it because I answered your question?

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 18:27:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: nobody (#8)
I'm trying to figure out what you are trying to say.
And where your connection with politics and religion comes in, as well......is that because he endorsed Mchurian? Or you believe Israel is 'politics'?
I see all these words tossed out there with nothing to back them up--including much in the way of explanation of what it is that is twisting the shorts!
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 18:29:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: rowdee (#7)
Has the IRS challenged him ... ?

The IRS is a part of the ZOG. Is that what still makes them an unbiased authority on the topic to you?

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 18:35:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: rowdee (#9) (Edited)
nothing to back them up

It's my words against ZOG's .... and yours. So, yes, even without your inestimable cheerleader-class weight, there is a distinct imbalance of force.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 18:36:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: rowdee (#9) (Edited)
Conversations with zionist cheerleaders carrying delusions of convincingness are not the best use of my time, so ....
Have a nice day, needy person.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 18:42:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: nobody (#11)
What the fuck are you talking about? Get a grip on yourself, and on life. People can ask genuine questions, asshole........oooooh, no! That's a fuckin conspiracy, too.....and I bet you can fit zionist in there somewhere as well.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 18:50:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: nobody (#12)
Well that certainly explains you.......you have no legit responses. You have a good day, as well......you certainly need it.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 18:51:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: rowdee (#14)
you have no legit responses

I'm sure you tell that to everyone who recognizes zionism for the taxpayer theft that it is.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 18:53:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: rowdee (#14)
that certainly explains you

You have a funny zionist way of telling me you've just been nailed.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 18:54:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: rowdee (#14)
Zionists need a brain that doesn't constantly leak.
LOL

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 18:57:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: rowdee (#9)
Hagee is not some lone whacko TV preacher on a one-town cable network. He is having an impact on our foreign policy. He advises voters. He's not making the news stumping for a restoration of our rights, either. And I don't hear him talking about our fiscal policy at all. I can't think of anything more important than reigning in our foreign policy (which he advises the opposite), balancing our budget, and restoring our rights. People in public who don't seem to get these important concepts tend to rankle anyone who cares.

buckeye posted on 2008-03-03 19:03:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: buckeye, rowdee (#18)
Hagee is not some lone whacko TV preacher on a one-town cable network. He is having an impact on our foreign policy. He advises voters. He's not making the news stumping for a restoration of our rights, either. And I don't hear him talking about our fiscal policy at all. I can't think of anything more important than reigning in our foreign policy (which he advises the opposite), balancing our budget, and restoring our rights. People in public who don't seem to get these important concepts tend to rankle anyone who cares.

Right.
But, that wasn't the point of contention.
nobody stated that Hagee is "stealing taxpayer dollars", on the erroneous presumption that if the church wasn't "fraudulently tax exempt" that A) people would still donate to it or B) the money would somehow be taxable if used for something else.
rowdee is well aware of what a snake in the grass Hagee is, but that wasn't what she was asking for clarification about. Of course even a civil request for clarification causes the little troll to start foaming at the mouth, because he doesn't allow anyone to underscore the weaknesses in his self serving anti logic without attempting to punish them. (The mark of a true intellectual, I'll tell you!)
So, for the benefit of all let me say that Hagee's skillful manipulations have allowed him to use his tax exempt status for many things that appear shady. But, fraud and theft of tax dollars are crimes and cannot simply be alleged, but must be proven. Asking for that proof caused Little Master Thorazine to set upon rowdee because answering the question would have revealed the fact that his emotional tirades are a poor substitute for proof of criminal wrongdoing.

Damn Skippy, Comrade!
HOUNDDAWG posted on 2008-03-03 19:19:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: rowdee (#14)
Well that certainly explains you.......you have no legit responses. You have a good day, as well......you certainly need it.

Do what I do. Stick it to him then don't read his insane rant replies!
It makes him crazier!
HAH!

Damn Skippy, Comrade!
HOUNDDAWG posted on 2008-03-03 19:21:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19)
I'm still getting to know everyone here. By the time I figure people out, they'll be older anyway.

buckeye posted on 2008-03-03 19:27:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
Have a donut, you'll feel better.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 20:27:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19)
nobody stated that Hagee is "stealing taxpayer dollars", on the erroneous presumption that if the church wasn't "fraudulently tax exempt" that A) people would still donate to it or B) the money would somehow be taxable if used for something else.

You're such a transparent moron.
Here, let me make you feel at home: "Oink."

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 20:34:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: buckeye (#18)
Dipwad......I am NOT in Hagee's corner, numbnutz! You're trying to make a case against him, so damn it do so--with FACTS, not your own personal opinion, which you somehow equate to 'facts'.
Put some real meat out there that people can digest, not just me, numbnutz....but all the 'lurkers' or other silent types.
Make your friggin case..........talking in buzzwords or code is plain and simple bullshit..........you're tossing lots of words around at the fan, just hoping against hope that they're light enough they'll stick on the wall, rather than slide down to become the shitpile of junk.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 20:42:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: buckeye (#18)
Hagee, as a citizen of this nation, has the right to speak his mind. That his is convoluted and warped is one thing, but it doesn't make him a thief, a robber, a murderer, or a whole slew of other crap!
So he gets to sit with the little general--maybe--it doesn't mean squat! You should be more concerned with the likes of Wolfy, Rummy, Cheney, Condi, Perley, and any other neo-con bastard that ever came down the pike.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 20:46:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: HOUNDDAWG (#19)
I didn't know that numbnutz is a troll.....thank you for informing me of such. I shall hereafter act accordingly. :)
BTW, has anyone ever told you that u b one great dawg? Hmmmmm? LOL......tis true.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 20:48:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: buckeye, nobodyAll (#24)
Buckeye, my apologies..........this comment was certainly not meant for you, but for the numbnutz amongst us--the one that Dawgie knocked up side the head.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 20:50:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: All (#25)
This one, buckeye, is properly for you.
Again, my apologies.
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 20:51:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)
Hey, Dawgie.........I'd give numbnutz a link to some stormfront organization, but he no doubt has them all already. Whada ya think?
Turn your back on the sun and you only see the shadows.
rowdee posted on 2008-03-03 20:53:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: rowdee (#27)
You are definitely some finely mincing zionist pig gangleader material.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 20:55:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: rowdee (#29)
stormfront

Did you admit to being a zionist yet?

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 20:56:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: rowdee (#29)
I can't argue with an imaginary character. If you won't admit you're a zionist, there's nothing else to discuss.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 20:59:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: rowdee (#28) (Edited)
I am NOT in Hagee's corner, numbnutz! You're trying to make a case against him, so damn it do so--with FACTS, not your own personal opinion, which you somehow equate to 'facts'.

I cannot discuss anything with someone who is so determined to mislead people about where they are coming from. You lack authenticity, are a very lazy gainsayer, and have an over-inflated opinion of your ability to fool people.
The fact that you have Mr. Damn-right-Skippy-redfist the pinkpainter on your side is not helping.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 21:03:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: rowdee (#25) (Edited)
convoluted and warped

Did you say you think Hagee's mind is "convoluted and warped"? Is it 40% warped and 60% convoluted, or is it 60/40, or something else?

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 21:17:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: rowdee (#29)
Hey, Dawgie.........I'd give numbnutz a link to some stormfront organization, but he no doubt has them all already. Whada ya think?

I think your patois suggests your truncheon could probably use some polishing.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 21:21:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: rowdee (#25)
Hagee, as a citizen of this nation, has the right to speak his mind. That his is convoluted and warped is one thing, but it doesn't make him a thief, a robber, a murderer, or a whole slew of other crap!

The values Hagee conveys are worship of fraud, theft and murder. Hagee's a major supporter of zionist expansionism and that makes him an accomplice to fraud, theft and murder.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 23:12:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: aristeides (#0)
I think if I could put a dividing line, the Orthodox and Conservatives who have a Torah appreciation give us wholehearted support. The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.
And the liberal agenda is they are pro-abortion. They're pro-homosexual. They're pro-gay marriage -- they want men to marry men and women to marry women -- and their difference with me is not really what I'm doing with Israel. Their hostility to me is poisoned by their liberalism. They take a liberal position that poisons their view of what we could be doing for Israel.

He DOES seem to have some grasp of one level of the issue.
Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
FOH posted on 2008-03-03 23:16:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: FOH (#37) (Edited)
He DOES seem to have some grasp of one level of the issue.

He has the same basic grasp that any perennial sucker does for the over-used inevitably-pro-zionist ginned-up left-right extremist dialectic. What this means is he's remarkably imbecilic, even for a zionist expansionist.

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 23:22:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: nobody (#38)
The rest [of Jews] who are not driven by the Word of God have a liberal agenda.

And what grasp are you talking about?
Are you an offended liberal or Jew?
Or just your garden variety God hater (except for Allah)?
Our last hope for peace
What North American Union? ~~~~~ Have you seen THIS yet? Pass it around...
FOH posted on 2008-03-03 23:28:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: FOH (#39)

Is that directed at me, and if so, why?

nobody posted on 2008-03-03 23:31:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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