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Title: OBAMA 'ENLISTS' - DEM AGREES US IS FIGHTING 'WAR ON TERROR'
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URL Source: http://www.nypost.com/seven/0905200 ... itics/obama_enlists_127502.htm
Published: Sep 5, 2008
Author: GEOFF EARLE
Post Date: 2008-09-05 16:00:41 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 506
Comments: 60

LANCASTER, Pa. - Barack Obama says the United States is engaged in a "war on terror" - using the same wording as President Bush to describe the global battle against Islamic extremists.

In his first sit-down interview with Bill O'Reilly of "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox News Channel, Obama said he absolutely" believes the United States is fighting a war on terror.

Obama said the enemy was "al Qaeda, the Taliban, a whole host of networks that are bent on attacking America, who have a distorted ideology, who have perverted the faith of Islam."

Many Democrats reject the use of the term, which the administration has used to argue for a global conflict that extends beyond national boundaries, and includes the war in Iraq, which Obama opposed and called a "dumb war."

The much anticipated interview was months in the making -after repeated requests from O'Reilly, who even trailed Obama at a rally in Nashua, NH, earlier this year to make his appeal in person - and winding up in a shoving match with a campaign aide.

Despite talk of bad blood between the Democratic nominee and the broadcaster, Obama seemed positively upbeat after Thursday's sitdown with O'Reilly.

Asked how it went, Obama replied, "It was great."

During the interview, Obama also called Iran a "major threat," and said it would be "unacceptable" for the regime to develop a nuclear weapon.

"It's sufficient to say I would not take military action off the table, and that I will never hesitate to use our military force in order to protect the homeland and the United States' interests."

But Obama has said repeatedly that he favors diplomacy as a first course of action.

Obama also warned against the current US administration lumping radical Islamic groups together.

"They have fueled a whole host of terrorist organizations," Obama said of Iran, but "we have to have the ability to distinguish between groups . . . They may not all be part and parcel of the same ideology."

Obama also said President Bush's surge of troops into Iraq - which Obama initially opposed - "has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated.

"I've already said it's succeeded beyond our wildest dreams."

Before his "O'Reilly Factor" debut, Obama spent Thursday campaigning through rural Pennsylvania, a swing state that is critical victory.

He toured a factory in York, where he continued to pound on the Republicans for stressing biography over issues.

"I understand that they don't have much of an agenda to run on, but I think the American people deserve more than the same old vitriol that we've seen the last couple of days," he said.

He then headed to Lancaster, west of Philadelphia, where a long line of voters stretched around the block to catch Obama at an evening event.


Poster Comment:

OK, PILES. Obama believes, as does Bush, in the WOT, al Qaeda, the Taliban, the evil Iran and last but not least, that Bush's surge " succeeded beyond our wildest dreams"

Change?

Change my ass. (1 image)

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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Oh de humanity! De Obamesshiah not gwine ter be true to his word? How could dis be? I thought his peeps were tryin' to tell us dat bummer was different and all dat. Now it appears he bese more ob de same.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-05   16:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ferret Mike, iconoclast, a vast rightwing conspirator, Arator, *obama 2008* (#0)

ok, guys, let's hear you defend this.

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christine  posted on  2008-09-05   16:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: James Deffenbach, Ferret Mike, Arator, Vast (#1)

Lets ping dem peeps and get some spin :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   16:15:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#2)

Let me, this is from atimes.com, Spengler's article, How Obama lost the Election.

I sat in on a session with three leaders of Veterans for Obama, a group of retired young officers who had served in Iraq and Afghanistan, courtesy of the New Republic's writer on the scene, David Samuels. With passion and enthusiasm, these young people spoke of their hopes for nation-building in Iraq. The George W Bush administration should have put twice the resources into the beleaguered country, they harangued me - not just soldiers, but agronomists, traffic cops, lawyers, judges, and physicians. The Department of Agriculture should have mobilized, along with the Department of Justice.

Nation-building? Doubling down on the US commitment to Iraq? Isn't that trying to out-Bush the Bush administration, while Obama campaigned on getting out of Iraq and spending the money on programs at home? Unblinking, one of the soldiers said, "That's what we think Barack will do." They believed in a more expensive version of the administration's program, and faulted Bush for half measures - and somehow they believed that Obama really agreed with them, all the public evidence to the contrary. And they believed in Barack with perfect faith.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-05   16:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S, Minerva and the assorted cast of puppets (#3)

Pingy dingy

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   16:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

McBama

Substitute "McCain" for "Obama" in this interview and no one would really notice.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   16:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: swarthyguy (#4)

That is pathetic and sad.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-05   16:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: swarthyguy (#4)

And to think, Bush ran on a "humble" foreign policy in 2000.

I know, I know, 9/11 changed everything...

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   16:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vitamin Z. all (#6)

Substitute "McCain" for "Obama" in this interview and no one would really notice.

That's why Palin will win the election.

She's no Joe Biden.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-05   16:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vitamin Z (#6)

Substitute "McCain" for "Obama" in this interview and no one would really notice.

McCain and Obama should have picked each other as running mates.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-05   16:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lodwick (#9)

That's why Palin will win the election.

She's no Joe Biden.

Well, she was certainly correct about Obama: He'll do and say anything to become President, and he uses "hope and change" to further his own career.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   16:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#10)

McBama

Now that's the ticket!

McBAMA '08

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   16:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: swarthyguy (#4)

They believed in a more expensive version of the administration's program, and faulted Bush for half measures - and somehow they believed that Obama really agreed with them, all the public evidence to the contrary. And they believed in Barack with perfect faith.

that sounds familiar.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-05   16:46:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

OK, PILES. Obama believes, as does Bush, in the WOT, al Qaeda, the Taliban, the evil Iran and last but not least, that Bush's surge " succeeded beyond our wildest dreams"

Change?

Change my ass.

UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE!!!

If you're LUCKY

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   16:48:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#10)

McCain and Obama should have picked each other as running mates.

And ruin the illusion??

No way, Jose!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   16:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vitamin Z (#12)

McBAMA '08

O'Caine'08 might be closer to home.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   16:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: christine (#13)

Obama could start his own church after the election. He'll have time.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-05   16:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rotara (#16)

O'Caine'08 might be closer to home.

She don't like, she don't like, she don't liiikkke...O'CAINE!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   16:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Vitamin Z (#11) (Edited)

Well, she was certainly correct about Obama: He'll do and say anything to become President, and he uses "hope and change" to further his own career

Pot. Kettle. Black.

As if Palin is any more principled than Obummer. Palin went from being a Buchanan and Ron Paul supporter to a full-fledged Neocon within seconds of McCain's invite, raving about winning the war on terror, a "God ordained" war in Iraq, standing by Israel, "the Iranian threat" blah blah blah.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-05   16:52:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: swarthyguy (#17)

Obama could start his own church after the election. He'll have time.

That might anger Rev. Wright, though.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   16:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vitamin Z (#18)

O'Caine'08 might be closer to home.

She don't like, she don't like, she don't liiikkke...O'CAINE!

OCaine '08

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   16:54:05 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#19)

As if Palin is any more principled than Obummer. Palin went from being a Buchanan and Ron Paul supporter to a full-fledged Neocon within seconds of McCain's invite.

I know, but she's more appealing. I figure since the show is all about entertainment, I am allowed to be superficial like the rest of the population.

;)

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   16:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rotara (#14)

UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE!!!

Yes!!!

Ms. Spin....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   16:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vitamin Z (#22) (Edited)

I know, but she's more appealing. I figure since the show is all about entertainment, I am allowed to be superficial like the rest of the population.

Isn't Paris Hilton still running? If only Obummer had waited for McCain's Palin pick, he could have countered by offering Paris the VP slot.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-05   16:55:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Vitamin Z (#22)

I figure since the show is all about entertainment, I am allowed to be superficial like the rest of the population.

Exactimundo.

Remember, more Americans felt comfortable hypothetically having a beer with a teetotaller than his opponent during the last two elections.

Superficial, you want American, lemme tell ya, McCain dated a stripper while flight training in Pensacola, Fanny - the Fabulous Flame of Florida and he married a BEER heiress.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-05   16:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Vitamin Z, swarthyguy, Louis Farrakhan (#20)

Obama could start his own church after the election. He'll have time.

That might anger Rev. Wright, though.

I wonder what post Calypso Louis was promised to deliver the Black Muhammadan Power vote??

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   16:59:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#23)

UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCE!!!

Yes!!!

And now for something completely unrelated:

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:01:45 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Vitamin Z (#22)

I figure since the show is all about entertainment, I am allowed to be superficial like the rest of the population.

I've seen fuglier neocons! NILF!


(She reminds me of a librarian I almost married while in Vegas as a yute)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:04:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: swarthyguy (#4)

Isn't that trying to out-Bush the Bush administration, while Obama campaigned on getting out of Iraq and spending the money on programs at home?

He campaigned on both.

Social programs for Iraq? Sure! Social programs at home? No problem! And don't worry MIC you get your share too! And to top it off he'll cut taxes and decrease spending/debt while doing all of the above at the same time.

More spending + less income = PROFIT!

No one has explained to me how that can be done.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.

"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2008-09-05   17:05:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Oboma is a politician, he changes to match his surroundings. O bama = O Rielly = O my G_D

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-09-05   17:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Rotara (#27)

Lets make this happen.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   17:06:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rotara (#28)

I've seen fuglier neocons! NILF!

LOL. She's got to be the first NILF in history!

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-05   17:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: christine (#2)

About the best that could be hoped for is that he's lying through his teeth just to try to get more votes, and that he has no intention of continuing the war party.

Otherwise, it kinda looks like the only foreign policy change we *might* get is a pullout of Iraq. Maybe. He sure has migrated.

Vote Ron Paul.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-09-05   17:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: christine (#2)

Sorry, I'm busy tonite. But, why should I be defending anyone?

I assume that you found some proof that O's is not perfect and that he's a partial selloff.

And?

Would you rather have McCain in the WH, nukeing away at the Russkies?

Like papa Olmert used to say... this is turning into an Existentialist problem now.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-05   17:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#29)

Isn't that trying to out-Bush the Bush administration, while Obama campaigned on getting out of Iraq and spending the money on programs at home?

He campaigned on both.

Social programs for Iraq? Sure! Social programs at home? No problem! And don't worry MIC you get your share too! And to top it off he'll cut taxes and decrease spending/debt while doing all of the above at the same time.

More spending + less income = PROFIT!

No one has explained to me how that can be done.

I will fight the Global Socialists with my last breath.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:10:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#34)

I assume that you found some proof that O's is not perfect and that he's a partial total selloff.

Fixed

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-05   17:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Jethro Tull (#31)

I really don't care for 'diddy' much at all.

In fact, you too can tell him what a [deleted: Jungle Reference] he is at:

diddy@msn.com

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:12:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Vitamin Z (#32)

LOL. She's got to be the first NILF in history!

My wife even thinks she's too hot to handle!

LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:13:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Pinguinite (#33)

About the best that could be hoped for is that he's lying through his teeth just to try to get more votes, and that he has no intention of continuing the war party.

Otherwise, it kinda looks like the only foreign policy change we *might* get is a pullout of Iraq. Maybe. He sure has migrated.

Vote Ron Paul.

CHANGEWEHOPE

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#34)

Sorry, I'm

I agree.

You actually think that O'Cain make these policy decisions and carry out their own plans.

Of course we all know that YOU know better, you just CAN'T WAIT for Fobama's Socialist Domestic Policy.

As if they are elected and not selected.

Sorry, you are.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-05   17:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#24)

Isn't Paris Hilton still running? If only Obummer had waited for McCain's Palin pick, he could have countered by offering Paris the VP slot.

Paris isn't running and can't run, at least not yet. She isn't old enough to be president, at least not according to the Constitution. They may waive the age requirement though. I read just the other day that Biden was elected for his first term in the Senate when he still wasn't old enough to serve there either. I guess the establishment waives any of the rules that goes against their annointed ones.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-05   17:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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