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Title: LIBERTY POST IS SUCH A CESSPOOL
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... gi?ArtNum=239181&Disp=All&#C84
Published: Sep 24, 2008
Author: moi
Post Date: 2008-09-24 03:07:24 by wudidiz
Keywords: Trolls, Traitors, Shills
Views: 613
Comments: 27

64. To: NterTained Lurker (#61)

What's this?
Are you wetting yourself now little girl?

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:00:41 ET Reply Trace
65. To: satadru (#59)

They are getting weaker and their Tourette is getting funnier.
I agree there! LOL!
If Saint Sarah could only see how these tards are representing her...
tsk... tsk... tsk...

NterTained Lurker posted on 2008-09-24 02:00:44 ET Reply Trace

66. To: NewTurded Loser (#52)
Another infamous coward and liar appears!
Are you still beating your husband New Turd?

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:00:46 ET Reply Trace

67. To: NterTained Lurker (#61)
It has the stupidest comebacks, which are generally laced with racist vomit. Plus, it has a fascination for feces, prostitutes, goat-sex and Sarah Palin. LOL!

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:01:02 ET Reply Trace

68. To: satadru (#62)

You want me to tell you pond scum where I live?
You're a tough guy aren't you, sack? No? Just another prostitute?

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:02:28 ET Reply Trace

69. To: NterTained Lurker (#65)
I think you have seriously perturbed them. Major cleanup in their shared cage tomorrow. LOL!

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:02:33 ET Reply Trace

70. To: yukon (#68)
Tough enough that I don't have to use profanities. Tsk tsk. Sarah Palin's children read her mother's shrine. You should be more considerate.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:03:33 ET Reply Trace

71. To: Marguerite (#63)

"Alaskans" ARE Americans, you moron.
A LOT of THAT going on around here lately.
Governor Palin scares them so much they soil themselves!
LOL!

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:04:05 ET Reply Trace
72. To: satadru (#69)

I think you have seriously perturbed them. Major cleanup in their shared cage tomorrow. LOL!
From the way they talk, they obviously eat their own vomit... like many dogs.
Saint Sarah would not be happy with these sad desperate characters representing her.

NterTained Lurker posted on 2008-09-24 02:05:36 ET Reply Trace

73. To: Mad Dog (#71)
I am rightly afraid of her. If she gets a chance, she will take my entire paycheck to fund her pet projects in welfare-land Alaska.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:05:58 ET Reply Trace

74. To: satadru (#70)

Tough enough that I don't have to use profanities.
Profanities? LOLAYDA! What shiitehole do you infest, sack? Your presence undoubtedly makes it even worse! No wonder you're embarrassed!

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:06:31 ET Reply Trace

75. To: yukon (#74)
Embarassed for you. Middle-aged, washed-up and acting tough on the internet. What a winner.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:07:55 ET Reply Trace

76. To: satadru, Mad Dog (#73)

she will take my entire paycheck to
She'll stop your welfare checks, queen. That you and Obama should fear.

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:08:07 ET Reply Trace

77. To: satadru (#67)

Plus, it has a fascination for feces, prostitutes, goat-sex and Sarah Palin. LOL
Good one!

AGAviator posted on 2008-09-24 02:08:41 ET Reply Trace

78. To: satadru (#75)

Embarassed (sic)
More curry English! What shiitehole do you infest, sack? Your presence undoubtedly makes it even worse! No wonder you're embarrassed!

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:09:27 ET Reply Trace

79. To: yukon (#76)
My exhaust pipe produces your welfare check, puke.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:09:30 ET Reply Trace

80. To: sack-o-turds (#70)
What's the matter coward?, gotta go clean yourself up since you soiled yourself, again; at the mere thought of folks knowing what sh!thole you call "home"?
I bet you go through alot of "pampers" everyday eh sack-o-turds?
LOL!

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:09:48 ET Reply Trace

81. To: Mad Dog (#71)

Governor Palin scares them so much they soil themselves!
"moron" wasn't addressed to you , but to the author.
I can't understand how the democrats weren't affraid of Hillary, but are "scared to death" by Sarah.

Marguerite posted on 2008-09-24 02:09:49 ET Reply Trace

82. To: yukon (#78)
You of curry forebears?

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:10:20 ET Reply Trace

83. To: satadru (#79)

My exhaust pipe produces
A receptacle for your "friends".

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:11:08 ET Reply Trace

84. To: Mad Dog (#80)
Nope. Simply not gonna tell you pond scum where I live. You live beggarville, aka AK, but you should be content in knowing that my exhaust produces your welfare check.
Now wipe your drool off and cry yourself to sleep.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:11:55 ET Reply Trace

85. To: yukon (#83)
You are the receptacle, pukon.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:12:38 ET Reply Trace

86. To: Marguerite (#81)

"moron" wasn't addressed to you , but to the author.
I can't understand how the democrats weren't affraid of Hillary, but are "scared to death" by Sarah
I understand and appreciate that!
It's because she redefines "Feminism" in a way that is not the slavish worship of leftard PC dogmas.
She shows that there are many non-demonRAT/lefturd ways to individual freedom.
If she succeeds, they must fail.
They see their "gender pimping" days coming to an end through her.
Watch these OH-Baa-ma nation whores and tools say things about her and her family that they'd never dream of saying about any RAT/lefturd establishment woman.
She scares the living beegeebus out of them!

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:17:00 ET Reply Trace
87. To: satadru (#84)

where I live.
You live in a state of ignorance, sack!

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:18:24 ET Reply Trace
88. To: sack-o-turds (#73)

You don't get a "paycheck" sack-o-turds. (Unless maybe the U.N. or a NGO gives you one). LOL!
Does Uncle pay you sack-o-turds?
LOL!

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:20:25 ET Reply Trace

89. To: satadru (#84)
LOL!
Poor 'ol sack-o-turds, afraid and ashamed of "his" "home"!
I feels yer pain sack-o-turds I really do!
What's it like to be so afraid and ashamed of where you live that you have to hide it sack-o-turds?
I wouldn't know myself.

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:24:19 ET Reply Trace
90. To: Mad Dog (#86)

Watch these OH-Baa-ma nation whores and tools say things about her and her family that they'd never dream of saying about any RAT/lefturd establishment woman.
Private life and family should be always left out of the politics. It's nobody business but hers.
Unfortunately, Bill Clinton's "affairs" at the White House made politicians' private life a constant in the political battles. It's a shame.
The term "feminism" has no real meaning for me, and I'm a "she" :)

Marguerite posted on 2008-09-24 02:25:03 ET Reply Trace

91. To: Mad Dog, satadru (#89)

What's it like to be so afraid and ashamed of where you live that you have to hide it sack-o-turds?
I wouldn't know myself.
Most people are proud of where they live. Hmmmmmm....leads one to believe sack has some "issues".

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:27:28 ET Reply Trace

92. To: Marguerite (#90)

The term "feminism" has no real meaning for me, and I'm a "she" :)
I understand.
It should be "humanism" that is important imo. Equal opportunity for everybody. Equal opportunity to decide what a person wants as a person, not as a "interest group", but as an individual.
Of course, I also think that murdering babies is wrong also......

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:30:29 ET Reply Trace

93. To: yukon, sack-o-turds (#91)

Most people are proud of where they live. Hmmmmmm....leads one to believe sack has some "issues".
Issues such as sack-o-turds being a miserable lying coward?
Those kind of issues?

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:33:36 ET Reply Trace

94. To: Mad Dog (#89)

I feels
Tsk tsk. All those education dollars flushed down the drain. When you get to fourth grade, they will teach you about privacy, retard.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:34:32 ET Reply Trace

95. To: yukon (#91)

Most people are proud
Pride is a sin, Indian. Oh I forgot, you heathens are still dancing around a fire worshipping pagan goddesses.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:36:30 ET Reply Trace

96. To: Mad Dog (#93)
Are you that afraid of me that you cannot even use my screenname? Do you shiver when you have to change it just hoping I won't make fun of you. How weak and pathetic?
BTW, what have I lied about?

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:37:53 ET Reply Trace

97. To: satadru (#95)

Pride is a sin, Indian.
Being proud and being prideful aren't synonymous. Good grooming, manners and hygiene are things of which one can be proud, but then you wouldn't be familiar with those things, would you sack?

yukon posted on 2008-09-24 02:45:18 ET Reply Trace

98. To: yukon (#97)

Good grooming, manners and hygiene are things of which one can be proud
Your "special" ed status shows! BTW, why didn't you list place of residence? You are so stupid you don't even know what you are talking about. You are by far the dumbest Indian I have known.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:51:25 ET Reply Trace

99. To: satadru (#98)
Can't come up with your own slurs is really stupid of you !

byeltsin posted on 2008-09-24 02:52:56 ET Reply Trace

100. To: yukon (#97)

Good grooming
Must be a proud day for you if you nose-hair isn't showing. Way to go, retard. LOL!!!

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:53:44 ET Reply Trace

101. To: sack-o-turds (#94)
LOL! You think playing grammar cop gets you some chops fool?
Still crying about how AFRAID that you are to tell the world where you "live" sack-o-turds?
What are you afraid of coward?
LOL!

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:54:29 ET Reply Trace

102. To: byeltsin (#99)

slur
That's for drunk Russians and Alaskans. Neighbors right? LOL!

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:54:43 ET Reply Trace

103. To: Mad Dog (#101)
You called me a liar, weak boy. Tell me what I have lied about.

satadru posted on 2008-09-24 02:55:14 ET Reply Trace

104. To: sack-o-turds (#96)
Too late for you to try to play "butch" sack-o-turds!
LOL!
You are AFRAID to tell the world where you live coward!
LOL!
You poltroon.

Mad Dog posted on 2008-09-24 02:56:36 ET Reply Trace
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#1. To: wudidiz (#0)
I wonder, is Badeye still prancing around crowing about how great our "sizzling" economy is?
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.
"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
Pissed Off Janitor posted on 2008-09-24 5:35:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#1)
Badeye's last post on LP:

1061. To: yukon (#1058)
I'm trying to catch up on this thread. It's better than anything on the Comedy Channel. Certainly less vulgar and more amusing.
I view the entire thread like this:
Its keeping the mentally disturbed off the streets across the entire country.
Since its a public service, we should all get a write off....(chuckle)
Have a great weekend...and try not to upset the kooks to much.
Badeye posted on 2007-04-13 15:33:01 ET Reply Trace
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz posted on 2008-09-24 5:49:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: TwentyTwelve, Original_Intent, FormerLurker, Bill D Berger, Itisa1mosttoolate, James Deffenbach, All (#2)
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz posted on 2008-09-24 5:53:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: wudidiz (#3)
It is such a cesspool I can even 'smell it' when I'm on the site.
real-debt-elimination
Itisa1mosttoolate posted on 2008-09-24 6:03:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)
I always feel like washing my hands when I'm done posting there.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz posted on 2008-09-24 6:25:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: wudidiz (#5)
I always feel like washing my hands when I'm done posting there.

I actually do.
real-debt-elimination
Itisa1mosttoolate posted on 2008-09-24 6:29:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#6)
I actually do.

LOL!
That's some funny shit.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz posted on 2008-09-24 8:12:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: wudidiz (#3)
I see you have been a bad boy and doing your best to undermine the wholesomeness that Goldi has done her dead level best to inspire others to on LP. I think you are encouraging that Mad Dog guy. LOL!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
James Deffenbach posted on 2008-09-24 21:54:07 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: wudidiz (#5)
I DARE you to post an I-told-you-so in the form of "Ron Paul was RIGHT!!" ;-)
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
X-15 posted on 2008-09-24 21:58:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: X-15, wudidiz (#9)
I DARE you to post an I-told-you-so in the form of "Ron Paul was RIGHT!!" ;-)

Go for it wudidiz!

TwentyTwelve posted on 2008-09-24 22:04:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: X-15, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Itisa1mosttoolate, Original_Intent, ALL (#9)
Here It Is
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz posted on 2008-09-24 22:36:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: wudidiz (#11)
Good post over there. By the way, I value LP. Lots to learn from its participants.

buckeye posted on 2008-09-24 22:44:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: buckeye (#12)
Good post over there. By the way, I value LP. Lots to learn from its participants.

Thank you. I value it too. 1st forum I ever posted on and I learned a lot there. Just not the same since Goldi banned the best posters and has allowed it to be overrun by shills, traitors and trolls.
I noticed satadru was given 2 weeks off since I posted this here.
Ironically, the ones antagonizing him are still given free reign.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz posted on 2008-09-24 22:52:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: wudidiz (#11) (Edited)
Well done, well done. I could re-register under another name, but I won't because Goldi had a fit seeing loyalty to the GOP anointed-few slipping with every post supporting Ron Paul.
Edit: besides, this is more of a home for me than LP was ;-)
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
X-15 posted on 2008-09-24 22:59:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: wudidiz (#11)
hey, while you're at it, invite kenfaw_tx and Ntertained Lurker over here. ;)
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
christine posted on 2008-09-24 23:46:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: christine, wudidiz (#15)
hey, while you're at it, invite kenfaw_tx and Ntertained Lurker over here. ;)

LOL That will get you banned. I know.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
farmfriend posted on 2008-09-25 0:13:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: farmfriend, christine (#16)
I remember.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth."
~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all

wudidiz posted on 2008-09-25 7:42:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: wudidiz (#2)
Badeye posted on 2007-04-13

2007? I guess all this bail out business must make it hard to sell his 'b3sT ecOn3mY evAr!" nonsense.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.
"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
Pissed Off Janitor posted on 2008-09-25 8:02:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: X-15 (#14)
but I won't because Goldi had a fit seeing loyalty to the GOP anointed-few slipping with every post supporting Ron Paul.

It wasn't the GOP anointed that upset her so much was that RP took away from the Israel anointed. The reason 2012 and I got banned was because we were underscoring her hypocrisy in supporting Israel first and opposing a candidate who put Americas interests over Israel's.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Original_Intent posted on 2008-09-25 12:14:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: Original_Intent (#19)
You mean I wasn't the only one from LP banned because I was willing to speak the truth about zionists. Oh well.
In a last-ditch, all-out effort to pave the way for war with Iran, Israel's lobby in the U.S. has inaugurated a new front group: United Against Nuclear Iran (UANI). What, "another" neocon front group – why is this important? With Richard Holbrooke, Obama's most prominent foreign policy advisor – and a likely Secretary of State or National Security Advisor in the Obama administration – joining neocon nutcase James R. Woolsey in the top leadership of this new group, the signal is clear: UANI represents a bipartisan call for war.
In an op ed piece for what else but the War Street Journal, the four horsemen of the apocalypse – Holbrooke, Woolsey, Dennis Ross, the Israel Lobby's ace-in-the-hole in the Obama camp, and Mark D. Wallace, formerly U.S. representative to the U.N. for management and reform – mirror the joint statement of Obama and McCain on the economic crisis. This is "not a partisan matter" – the War Party is the only party that really matters. "We may have different political allegiances and worldviews, " they aver,
"Yet we share a common concern – Iran's drive to be a nuclear state. We believe that Iran's desire for nuclear weapons is one of the most urgent issues facing America today, because even the most conservative estimates tell us that they could have nuclear weapons soon.
"A nuclear-armed Iran would likely destabilize an already dangerous region that includes Israel, Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan, India and Pakistan, and pose a direct threat to America's national security," etc., etc., etc…
I suppose it's just a coincidence that the list of threatened countries starts with Israel and ends with the United States, but I wonder…
Leaving the realm of speculation, and entering the region of hard facts: our own National Intelligence Estimate on Iran and its alleged nuclear weapons program shows that the Iranians had a weapons program that they abandoned: "We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program." While keeping the option open, the Iranian regime has not restarted its nuclear program, according to our spooks, and probably could not iron out all the technical problems and hoarding of nuclear materials until at least 2015 – and even then there is no evidence Tehran has any such intention.
The NIE was issued last year around this time, and afterward Robert Gates spoke to the New York Times Magazine:
"One afternoon in late November, Defense Secretary Robert Gates was flying back to Washington from the Army base at Fort Hood, Tex., where he had spoken with soldiers and spouses about the future of Iraq. Sitting across from him at his desk in the back of the Pentagon's jet, I asked him about the possibility of another military conflict: U.S. air strikes on Iran. ‘The last thing the Middle East needs now is another war,' he said quietly. ‘We have to keep all options on the table,' he went on, reciting the standard caveat. ‘But if Iraq has shown us anything, it's the unpredictability of war. Once a conflict starts, the statesmen lose control.'"
This was supposed to signal that the much-anticipated U.S. strike on Iran – the imminence of which was predicted with near certainty by a number of commentators, including this one – has been successfully aborted. There was a collective and well-nigh audible sigh of relief, from Tehran to Terre Haute, but some of us were not convinced by this display of official caution. After all, the statesmen have lost control before….
If the NIE was supposed to blast the neocon war campaign out of the water, then its authors did not take into account the persistence – indeed, fanaticism – of the United for War With Iran crowd. The sheer relentlessness of the effort suggests its essential character as a lobbying campaign on behalf of a special interest – in this case, a very special interest. Corporate and professional lobbyists are notably impervious to facts, and tend to cherry-pick according to the interests of their clients, and foreign lobbyists certainly fall into this category. Yet the latter have a certain edge to them, lacking in the others – and Israel's lobby has the sharpest edge of all.
No one even pretends anymore that the Israel lobby isn't behind the effort to drag us into another Middle Eastern war. You don't have to be me, or Mearsheimer and Walt, to make this case: you have only to listen to the public pronouncements of Israel's leaders, who are openly demanding that either we strike, or else they will – perhaps, as has been suggested by Benny Morris, with nuclear weapons.
In the U.S., AIPAC, the scandal-rocked central command of Israel's amen corner, has come out of the shadows, where they remained during the run-up to the Iraq war, and taken the lead in calling for harsh sanctions and a military blockade of Iranian ports. Now we have this bipartisan ad hoc committee taking out full page newspaper ads and speaking in the implied names of both major party presidential candidates.
I had to laugh when I read, in the Journal op ed piece, that "Tehran's development of a nuclear bomb could serve as the ‘starter's gun' in a new and potentially deadly arms race in the most volatile region of the world. Many believe that Iran's neighbors would feel forced to pursue the bomb if it goes nuclear." Methinks the starter gun went off long off – sometime in the early 1960s, Israel having earlier procured the technology to make the Bomb from the French.
"Iran," say the four horsemen, "is a deadly and irresponsible world actor, employing terrorist organizations including Hezbollah and Hamas to undermine existing regimes and to foment conflict. Emboldened by the bomb, Iran will become more inclined to sponsor terror, threaten our allies, and support the most deadly elements of the Iraqi insurgency." One has only to insert "Israel" where Iran sits in those sentences, and the pot-kettle-black aspect of this whole issue is underscored, as is the ridiculous double standard. After all, Israel has surely been emboldened by its possession of nukes, lo these many years, and acted in a manner that could reasonably called irresponsible – and even deadly, now that you mention it. Yet Israel is not only given a pass, but the defining factor of the Middle Eastern strategic environment – Israel's nuclear arsenal – goes unmentioned by these worthies.
They are full of laughable pronouncements imbued with the solemnity that usually accompanies the argument from authority:
"The world rightfully doubts Tehran's assertion that it needs nuclear energy and is enriching nuclear materials for strictly peaceful purposes. Iran has vast supplies of inexpensive oil and natural gas, and its construction of nuclear reactors and attempts to perfect the nuclear fuel cycle are exceedingly costly. There is no legitimate economic reason for Iran to pursue nuclear energy."
Aside from the propriety of assuming to speak for "the world," one has to ask where the war propagandists have been hiding out lately: haven't they read about those gas lines in Iran? Sanctions and official corruption have contributed to the country's shortage, while rationing ensured it would continue. Indeed, the more tireless Iran-ophobes were at one point speculating that the resulting riots might well spell the end for the mullahs.
And I'm surprised they raised the following accusation, considering the context in which it is hurled:
"By continuing to act in open defiance of its treaty obligations under the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, Iran rejects the inspections mandated by the IAEA and flouts multiple U.N. Security Council resolutions and sanctions."
Iran is fully within its rights, under the terms of the treaty, to develop a nuclear energy program, which is what they say they are doing – and, as those gas lines attest, they have a real need for it. At any rate, at least Iran has signed the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty, unlike a certain country whose interests seem to be at the heart of the signers' argument:
"At the same time, Iranian leaders declare that Israel is illegitimate and should not exist. President Ahmadinejad specifically calls for Israel to be ‘wiped off from the map,' while seeking the weapons to do so. Such behavior casts Iran as an international outlier. No one can reasonably suggest that a nuclear-armed Iran will suddenly honor international treaty obligations, acknowledge Israel's right to exist, or cease efforts to undermine the Arab-Israeli peace process."
That old canard about wiping Israel off the map has been debunked so many times as a mis-translation of what Ahmadinejad really said – which was something more akin to predicting that Israel would be washed away by the tides of history and demography – yet it keeps bouncing right back. Just like all the other lies spread far and wide by the War Party's propagandists. Remember that one about Mohammed Atta meeting a top Iraqi intelligence official at the Prague airport? That one didn't die until well after the invasion. I wonder how many people still believe Saddam Hussein was behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks? A lie, repeated relentlessly, becomes enmeshed in the public consciousness, and rooting it out is a major operation, with a problematic success rate.
That's what we do, here at Antiwar.com – root out the lies, and set the record straight. We did it in the run-up to the last war, and we're doing the same thing when it comes to the Iranian issue. The chances that we'll succeed, this time, in stopping the rush to war are better now, perhaps, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. The forces pushing for war, led by the Israel lobby, are marshalling their supporters for a final push. Even if they don't pull it off before the election, the Holbrooke-Woolsey Pact will go down in history as the turning point, politically, the crucial juncture when the American elite made the decision to go to war because the Lobby demanded it.
Our political elites speak in unison: accept the bailout, pay trillions to the plutocrats – accept the coming war with Iran – and pay with the lives of your children. Our leaders, their system in crisis, have closed ranks around the slogan of Big Government at home, and progressively bigger wars abroad. If it were one crisis, or the other, Americans might remain impassive. In this case, however, with the economy imploding and the threat of war looming simultaneously, the Washington crowd that thought it could ride out the turbulence is finding it's a bit more of a bumpy ride than they or anyone else imagined. The people are awakening, but there is a danger in this: without leaders of their own, their rebellion is bound to be inchoate, undirected, and perhaps even violent. As Garet Garrett put it, anticipating this moment some sixty odd years ago
antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13507

bush_is_a_moonie posted on 2008-09-29 9:28:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#20)
262. To: Dakmar (#200)
This language is inexcusable.
We are adults, trying to engage in adult civil conversation.
This kind of vulgar outburst is like taking a crap in the middle of someone's dining room.
You cannot converse in a civil manner, or disagree in a civil manner without resorting to crude vulgarities.
Your inability to control yourself creates a situation that forces me to take control of the situation, and clean up the mess.
Your account is terminated.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2004-09-10 00:27:00 ET Reply Trace

www.libertypost.org/cgi-b...rtNum=65523&Disp=262#C262
Huge hoeking fun!
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-10-01 20:29:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: wudidiz (#21)
ping to you too.
Remember the time Goldi said global oil supply should be controlled by Jews so the price would go down? I must have been banned by that time or I would have posted something about how affordable diamonds have become.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-10-01 20:33:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Dakmar (#21) (Edited)
200. To: ALS (#196)
[GL: Comment Pulled: vulgar ]
Dakmar posted on 2004-09-09 20:19:46 ET

F*****g Nazi c**t even censored your "offensive" post. Sheesh, I'll bet you were just being your normal sweet, innocent, charming and delightful self.
ATTICA! ATTICA!
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
Esso posted on 2008-10-01 20:45:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Esso (#23)
I didn't use any of the Forbidden 7, I merely suggested a certain poster might have proclivities toward vacuuming roosters.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-10-01 20:49:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Dakmar (#24)
People tend to not appreciate the importance of good pet grooming.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
Esso posted on 2008-10-01 20:53:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Dakmar (#21)
I bet she is a supporter of the Jews & Hasidic Gentile bunch who despise Christians. One thing I have noticed about most zionists is the truth becomes a lie if it is about Israel and doesn't blindly support their hateful acts and constant screwing over of America. Like I told Magic"rap"ian that if believing in the truth means a person is anti-semitic then call me Mr. Anti-Semite.

bush_is_a_moonie posted on 2008-10-01 20:55:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#26)
Like I told Magic"rap"ian that if believing in the truth means a person is anti-semitic then call me Mr. Anti-Semite.

That's a bit too much pressure for me, but at least I shall aspire to be on ADL's scary White Separatists list, eh?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Dakmar posted on 2008-10-01 21:06:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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