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Title: LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate/ Fellow Member With Secret Service (Rumor -> Corn Flake Girl=Ferret Mike?)
Source: El Pee
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=242074&Disp=All
Published: Oct 15, 2008
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2008-10-15 23:53:30 by Rotara
Keywords: None
Views: 4120
Comments: 160

LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate Fellow Member With Secret Service

(#144) "And the Secret Service is in the modus to investigate the remotest possibility of a threat environment endangering someone on their 'A' list of whom they look out for". LP Member, Corn Flake Girl

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances".

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell, Preface to Animal Farm (1946)

"If you're in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech." Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media (1992).

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We must never allow people like Corn Flake Girl to impede or stop us from defending our right to speak, to express, to write and to tell the truth, to be the watchdog, eyes and ears of the people, or simply to share our view, and give fair comment on any subject which involves and affects us as humans, as rightful citizens of this country.

Most of us have fought censorship all of our adult life. To me, the most precious of all rights in this marvelous country called the United States of America is the freedom to think, write and say whatever is on your mind... That freedom also extends to thoughts that are stupid, ignorant or incendiary. No one needs a First Amendment to write about how cute newborn babies are or to publish a recipe for strawberry shortcake. Nobody needs a First Amendment for innocuous or popular points of view. That's point one. Point two is that the majority-you and I-must always protect the right of a minority-even a minority of one-to express the most outrageous and offensive ideas. Only then is total freedom of expression guaranteed."

The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish.

If we suppress ideas we don't like, the proponents of those ideas will probably fester in secret societies and explode in double-plus ungood ways and we will like those results even less. If we allow people to see their ideas, and we ignore them, they've had their chance and they don't have to feel cheated about not getting exposure. Or if we really don't like their ideas and really need to keep them from convincing other people to believe in them, the answer is to tell people why and they'll learn. But you can't just beat people up because you dislike their stupid opinion.

If we go that route, then ignorant, faceless people like "Corn Flake Girl" will use their intimidation and force us to suppress any opinion they don't like, and maybe support opinions we don't like. Then what you get is a society of brutality where it isn't the best ideas that are seen by others, it's only the ideas that have the most vicious thugs to back them up. And it becomes very hard for people to be willing to express any opinion if someone can just pop them one because they say something someone else doesn't like.

As responsible members of LibertyPost, we demand and claim our space on the Internet for free and fair comment, where important national issues and prominent personalities are discussed.

Corn Flake Girl! If you find my posts offensive, you may, at any time, refute me with correct facts and figures and fair comment, in the spirit of free speech, but you will never silence me with threats of intimidation by the Secret Service, or any Law Enforcement. And if you ever do attempt something so stupid, you had better get your facts straight, because I do not tuck tale and run from you, or anyone who attempts to silence me. ~ Murron


Poster Comment:

Corn Flake/Ferret, do you have anything to say for yourself - you demented little goofy girl you?

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#11. To: Rotara (#0)

Get a life.

angle  posted on  2008-10-16   6:38:27 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: angle (#11)

Get a life.

In the true world socialist spirit that deep down electrifies you, I'll take yours. How's that?

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   11:30:55 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rotara (#12)

I'll take yours. How's that?

Have you been taking stupid pills.

angle  posted on  2008-10-16   11:43:43 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: angle (#13)

Stupid as in supporting Hugo Chavez, Global Man Made Climate Change and eco-terrorists? No, no stupid desired here.

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   18:33:37 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rotara (#20)

59. To: Goldi-Lox, Idol Hanz, Dewy (#57)

"I've read through your comments made recently on multiple threads, and I find a shocking theme. You are attempting to intimidate other LP members from speaking freely on this site, by invoking various law enforcement agencies in a manner that is akin to KGB operatives controlling the proletariat!!

ANY attempt for censorship of any kind, including intimidation or veiled threats is anethema to Liberty Post and its entire purpose; it flies in the face of the First Amendment.

It is 100% NOT acceptable here.

Please take your educated, opinionated, and intimidating remarks over to a site that encourages that behavior. It is clear that you do not visit here to participate in the liberty of free and unfettered speech.

I have terminated your account."

Then you will wish to terminate mine as well. Murron's posting of a picture of a hangman's noose in a thread discussing a Secret Service protectee was blatantly racist and threatening in tone, and CFG was completely correct in wanting to report it to the relevant authorities.

Further, you have repeatedly failed to terminate the accounts of REAL racist posters such as Idol Hanz and Dewy, who freely and continually use the terms "nigger" and "darkie" in casual conversation, and enjoy your continued protection even when their racist posts are reported to you. I do not associate with nor tolerate people of that stripe in any way, even on a chat site on the Internet.

And just to provide some additional incentive for you to ban me, I have already provided the URL of Murron's post to the local Secret Service office. I suspect that somebody will be knocking at her door very soon. And if they are at all on the ball, they will be knocking on YOUR door as well for facilitating and encouraging such ILLEGAL behavior.

I will continue to scan LibertyPost from time to time, and will continue to report content I feel to be directly threatening to Secret Service protectees to the relevant authorities.

Why don't you just change the name of this web site to Stormfront Post or something that would more readily identify the average tenor and quality of posts here? If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly.

Goodbye.

strelitsa posted on 2008-10-16 18:30:27 ET Reply Trace

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=241893&Disp=59#C59

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   18:39:57 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#22)

Then you will wish to terminate mine as well. Murron's posting of a picture of a hangman's noose in a thread discussing a Secret Service protectee was blatantly racist and threatening in tone, and CFG was completely correct in wanting to report it to the relevant authorities.

Further, you have repeatedly failed to terminate the accounts of REAL racist posters such as Idol Hanz and Dewy, who freely and continually use the terms "nigger" and "darkie" in casual conversation, and enjoy your continued protection even when their racist posts are reported to you. I do not associate with nor tolerate people of that stripe in any way, even on a chat site on the Internet.

And just to provide some additional incentive for you to ban me, I have already provided the URL of Murron's post to the local Secret Service office. I suspect that somebody will be knocking at her door very soon. And if they are at all on the ball, they will be knocking on YOUR door as well for facilitating and encouraging such ILLEGAL behavior.

I will continue to scan LibertyPost from time to time, and will continue to report content I feel to be directly threatening to Secret Service protectees to the relevant authorities.

well, well, well, a real advocate of free speech and jack boot! at least CFG never reported to SS Murron's jpg. btw, you might be interested to know that Murron has a biracial grandson so she would be the last to post a picture that was meant to convey the lynching of blacks. it was intended for teasonous, corrupt politicians of any color.

christine  posted on  2008-10-16   18:52:38 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#26)

I would never worry about her calling. She hates Freddies worse then I do.

Thanks for the info on Murron, and I don't at all dislike her. When she trips up, she is her own worst enemy.

I looked at that graphic of hers' yesterday and agree with CFG that she could of gotten her message across better.

You have to admit that when using visual metaphor, one has to be on guard not to chose something that is the metaphor for something involving racial intolerance.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   19:01:17 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

You have to admit that when using visual metaphor, one has to be on guard not to chose something that is the metaphor for something involving racial intolerance.

You mean we should all be "politically correct".

That's not going to happen. And people need to stop reading racism into everything they see, including a picture of a watermelon.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   12:50:32 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: mel_living (#94)

Hi Mel my dear, my opinion still stands. If you use a noose in a photo shopping of a graphic saying it is intended to mean a call for bodily harm of all crooked politicians, then you include a spouse in this case to provide a quote to accent the intent, and this spouse is Michelle Obama, you are begging for serious trouble.

Anyone making a graphic like that not knowing the short circuit of intent that would arch from it in a big glow of emotional sparks and heat because the history of lynching is still a tender subject with a whole lot of folks is dumb as mud, or malicious to the extreme.

You are welcome not to concur. But family members do not belong on graphics meant for crooked politicians. Not to mention that if you make the quote one from a wife of the sort of man that has been the primary target of lynchings in the United States because of a toxic mixture of mob psychosis and brutally ignorant racism, you muddy the waters of what your intent actually was of the graphic.

I would say that at the best, and I do mean the very best; I would say there is subliminal racism expressed in her graphic. She is schizophrenic about her particular brand of racism, part of her needs it, part of her hates it.

That's just my opinion, mind you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   13:08:37 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Ferret Mike (#97)

Hi Mel my dear, my opinion still stands. If you use a noose in a photo shopping of a graphic saying it is intended to mean a call for bodily harm of all crooked politicians, then you include a spouse in this case to provide a quote to accent the intent, and this spouse is Michelle Obama, you are begging for serious trouble.

So comparing Bush to a monkey, because he looks like one, is OK, because Bush is white.

But it's not OK to compare a Michelle Obama to an Ape that she looks like, because she's black.

Obama supporters are OK to contunually state over and over that Palin's daughter shoud have gotten an abortion, but Palin supporters can't mention friends and family of Obama, because it's not "politically correct".

You truely are an Obama-bot - aren't you? Seeing racism in every post against Obama and his global policies. That's what his campaign is based upon. Either you're for him or you're racist.

Well, I'm not buying it and anyone who knows Murron, knows she's not got a racist bone in her body.

I, for one, am tired of the racist card being played everytime somebody speaks against Obama's policies.

Unlike you, I value my freedoms.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   13:50:20 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mel_living (#106)

Bush is a politician, Michelle Obama is a politician's family member.

Unlike you, I don't use people's family as clubs to beat them over the head with to make a political point.

Unlike you I don't confuse family from the politician.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   13:55:26 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Ferret Mike (#108)

Unlike you, I don't use people's family as clubs to beat them over the head with to make a political point.

Unlike you I don't confuse family from the politician.

The Obama campaign sure did snicker and hee-haw when the MSM went after Sarah Palin's daughter and made an issue of her pregnancy. Obama didn't fire one person in his campaign for having politically incorrect thoughts on that inappropriate topic.

X-15  posted on  2008-10-17   14:10:48 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: X-15 (#111)

The MSM also said it was an open secret in Alaska and the point has not grown legs, people have better sense then that to bully these kids. This girl and her boyfriend are not running for public office, and I don't view this as a Sarah Palin moral lapse.

I just call it having teenage kids in the first decade of the 21st Century. And this is true of how many people view this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   14:16:40 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Ferret Mike (#112)

I do wonder why you chose this forum to post this thread and discuss this topic. I would've thought a forum that Murron posts on would be better ~ at least then it wouldn't be a one-sided story.

Of course, the way you appear to want to limit free speech and freely exchanging ideas, perhaps I can understand it.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   14:23:03 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: mel_living (#115)

Err, I have not posted any threads in all this.

I would actually be just as happy to see this dissipate away away as it should, and do not like this playing to this level, as it is a distraction from more important things others and I have to do.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   14:34:28 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Ferret Mike (#118)

My mistake~it so fitted your agenda.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   14:39:33 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#121. To: mel_living (#120) (Edited)

My, what a cynic. No matter I don't really begrudge your opinion nor does it bother me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17 14:49:25 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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