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Title: LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate/ Fellow Member With Secret Service (Rumor -> Corn Flake Girl=Ferret Mike?)
Source: El Pee
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=242074&Disp=All
Published: Oct 15, 2008
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2008-10-15 23:53:30 by Rotara
Keywords: None
Views: 4099
Comments: 160

LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate Fellow Member With Secret Service

(#144) "And the Secret Service is in the modus to investigate the remotest possibility of a threat environment endangering someone on their 'A' list of whom they look out for". LP Member, Corn Flake Girl

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances".

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell, Preface to Animal Farm (1946)

"If you're in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech." Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media (1992).

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We must never allow people like Corn Flake Girl to impede or stop us from defending our right to speak, to express, to write and to tell the truth, to be the watchdog, eyes and ears of the people, or simply to share our view, and give fair comment on any subject which involves and affects us as humans, as rightful citizens of this country.

Most of us have fought censorship all of our adult life. To me, the most precious of all rights in this marvelous country called the United States of America is the freedom to think, write and say whatever is on your mind... That freedom also extends to thoughts that are stupid, ignorant or incendiary. No one needs a First Amendment to write about how cute newborn babies are or to publish a recipe for strawberry shortcake. Nobody needs a First Amendment for innocuous or popular points of view. That's point one. Point two is that the majority-you and I-must always protect the right of a minority-even a minority of one-to express the most outrageous and offensive ideas. Only then is total freedom of expression guaranteed."

The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish.

If we suppress ideas we don't like, the proponents of those ideas will probably fester in secret societies and explode in double-plus ungood ways and we will like those results even less. If we allow people to see their ideas, and we ignore them, they've had their chance and they don't have to feel cheated about not getting exposure. Or if we really don't like their ideas and really need to keep them from convincing other people to believe in them, the answer is to tell people why and they'll learn. But you can't just beat people up because you dislike their stupid opinion.

If we go that route, then ignorant, faceless people like "Corn Flake Girl" will use their intimidation and force us to suppress any opinion they don't like, and maybe support opinions we don't like. Then what you get is a society of brutality where it isn't the best ideas that are seen by others, it's only the ideas that have the most vicious thugs to back them up. And it becomes very hard for people to be willing to express any opinion if someone can just pop them one because they say something someone else doesn't like.

As responsible members of LibertyPost, we demand and claim our space on the Internet for free and fair comment, where important national issues and prominent personalities are discussed.

Corn Flake Girl! If you find my posts offensive, you may, at any time, refute me with correct facts and figures and fair comment, in the spirit of free speech, but you will never silence me with threats of intimidation by the Secret Service, or any Law Enforcement. And if you ever do attempt something so stupid, you had better get your facts straight, because I do not tuck tale and run from you, or anyone who attempts to silence me. ~ Murron


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Corn Flake/Ferret, do you have anything to say for yourself - you demented little goofy girl you?

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#101. To: Ferret Mike (#100)

Oops - mean't to include you on the above post.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-17   13:31:50 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Fred Mertz (#99)

My bad. Apologies Fred, the devil musta made me do that. ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   13:37:50 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Ferret Mike (#98)

I'm not going to bother to type out my background, but I'm a tad older than you, grew up in a mixed neighborhood in Brooklyn and worked in every section of the city while in the NYPD. I can say this w/o reservation; you are a liberal, and liberalism is a mental disorder (Michael Savage didn't coin that phrase, it was first used by Frank from Queens, a regular caller to the old Bob Grant radio show). Only the mentally ill would consider forced integration, hate speech law, multiple layers of tax payer funded social programs and illegal immigration a bonus to America. And the really rich part of your philosophy is that if you dared to walk around Harlem on a Saturday night in the summer, you'd be found in short order naked, bloodied and broken, simply b/c you're white. I consider you to be a sick man, who, to be perfectly frank, I don't trust as far as I could throw. Come Nov.5th, should Obama win as it appears, I suspect we'll all see the real Mick McCarthy, and it won't be pretty.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-17   13:38:09 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Jethro Tull (#103)

Amen and amen.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-17   13:45:07 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Fred Mertz (#99)

Would it help to know a girl friend helped inspire this returning bannee account? Actually Fred, ask Laz over there about what a burden being told by someone the truth about a covert account. ( And please ping the boy to that mess there anyway, he was my partner in crime more then once at FR when I was in there in another account, thanks.)

I was expecting the account to be banned soon anyway and figured you might possibly know someday.

I didn't expect Murron to provide such good town crier service on this one, and she's better then having a publicist when it comes to doing after action on returning bannee accounts.

She's just the right amount of malicious orneriness, nosiness, self pitying, and she would jump off a cliff screaming as she fell if you sneaked up behind her and whispered "boo" to her. She is that easy to stampede in a mindless manner.

So look at the factors too. Without my amplifier and publicist over there, I would be getting far less attention concerning this account then I am now. ;-D


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   13:48:08 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Ferret Mike (#97)

Hi Mel my dear, my opinion still stands. If you use a noose in a photo shopping of a graphic saying it is intended to mean a call for bodily harm of all crooked politicians, then you include a spouse in this case to provide a quote to accent the intent, and this spouse is Michelle Obama, you are begging for serious trouble.

So comparing Bush to a monkey, because he looks like one, is OK, because Bush is white.

But it's not OK to compare a Michelle Obama to an Ape that she looks like, because she's black.

Obama supporters are OK to contunually state over and over that Palin's daughter shoud have gotten an abortion, but Palin supporters can't mention friends and family of Obama, because it's not "politically correct".

You truely are an Obama-bot - aren't you? Seeing racism in every post against Obama and his global policies. That's what his campaign is based upon. Either you're for him or you're racist.

Well, I'm not buying it and anyone who knows Murron, knows she's not got a racist bone in her body.

I, for one, am tired of the racist card being played everytime somebody speaks against Obama's policies.

Unlike you, I value my freedoms.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   13:50:20 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Jethro Tull (#103)

Branding people farther to one end of the political spectrum then you are as being sickos to dehumanize them and to shut down dialog to turn it into a declaration of cultural war is asinine and ignorant. Period.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   13:52:09 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: mel_living (#106)

Bush is a politician, Michelle Obama is a politician's family member.

Unlike you, I don't use people's family as clubs to beat them over the head with to make a political point.

Unlike you I don't confuse family from the politician.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   13:55:26 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Ferret Mike (#108)

She speaks on his behalf at rallies for his campaign and honestly, with all the crap that spews from her mouth, she's just as much a target as he is. If she doesn't want the heat, she needs to stay home with the kids.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   14:01:02 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: mel_living (#109)

I don't concur. I know Laura Bush has spoken for her hubby whom I loathe with a purple passion and I lay off of her. The same goes with Nancy Reagan, I remember when the fortune teller thing came out, I did not make hay about it, and again, I don't like Ronald Reagan either.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   14:08:49 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Ferret Mike (#108)

Unlike you, I don't use people's family as clubs to beat them over the head with to make a political point.

Unlike you I don't confuse family from the politician.

The Obama campaign sure did snicker and hee-haw when the MSM went after Sarah Palin's daughter and made an issue of her pregnancy. Obama didn't fire one person in his campaign for having politically incorrect thoughts on that inappropriate topic.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-17   14:10:48 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: X-15 (#111)

The MSM also said it was an open secret in Alaska and the point has not grown legs, people have better sense then that to bully these kids. This girl and her boyfriend are not running for public office, and I don't view this as a Sarah Palin moral lapse.

I just call it having teenage kids in the first decade of the 21st Century. And this is true of how many people view this.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   14:16:40 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Ferret Mike (#110)

Let's not forget about everyone bringing McCain's wife into the battle either.

When somebody like Michelle Obama makes the type of statements she has made, when she puts herself out there in front of the public, we have every right to speak our against the things she has said.

She has made herself a public figure. Honestly, we all know that the spouse of the President has some pull, so if I don't like her ideas, I can say so. I can criticize her just as much as I can Obama.

You make me want to post a graphic. hehehe

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   14:17:54 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: All (#113)

Michelle Obama: "We have an obligation to fight for the world as it should be."

Michelle Obama: "If we win Iowa, then we can move to the world as it should be."

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   14:18:25 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Ferret Mike (#112)

I do wonder why you chose this forum to post this thread and discuss this topic. I would've thought a forum that Murron posts on would be better ~ at least then it wouldn't be a one-sided story.

Of course, the way you appear to want to limit free speech and freely exchanging ideas, perhaps I can understand it.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   14:23:03 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: mel_living (#109)

"He was either banned for some forgotten reason,or asked to have his account closed. I don't remember which."

If you wish to, let Pete know I was banned for reasons surrounding an article posting. There is no point in rehashing it, as Goldi doesn't care whether she was wrong or unfair about it so there is no point in going into it.

I was banned for an excuse reason, and I knew that when that happens, you are never going to talk the forum owner into changing their minds.

A search of 'Ferret' would show it moved to the Biker Bar, with the bare URL I normally put in 'source' replaced by the name of the newspaper's parent organization in capital letters by Goldi.

She claimed I was being deceptive, but I don't agree, as the bare url will always take you to where you got the piece you reposted anyway. It's how I always did posting and still do this.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   14:25:02 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Ferret Mike (#116)

I really don't care.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   14:33:41 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: mel_living (#115)

Err, I have not posted any threads in all this.

I would actually be just as happy to see this dissipate away away as it should, and do not like this playing to this level, as it is a distraction from more important things others and I have to do.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   14:34:28 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: mel_living (#117)

"I really don't care."

More then fine with me.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   14:35:04 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Ferret Mike (#118)

My mistake~it so fitted your agenda.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-17   14:39:33 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: mel_living (#120) (Edited)

My, what a cynic. No matter I don't really begrudge your opinion nor does it bother me.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   14:49:25 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Ferret Mike (#116)

I posted your above reply to sneakypete on elPee.

www.libertypost.org/cgi- b...tNum=242074&Disp=164#C164

Fred Mertz  posted on  2008-10-17   14:50:17 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Fred Mertz (#122)

Thanks Fred, I appreciate it. It was May Day, 2001, and I posted an anti Minuteman article from what used to be the Revolutionary Worker paper, mouth piece for the Revolutionary Communist Party.

I loved the title of it. It was a token International Worker's Day posting meant to spice up the immigration debate. Locally the RCP are a joke and we call their other group, 'RCYB,' which is the 'Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade,' the Really Confused Young Bourgeoisie.'

I did at the time resent it being taken as de facto support for the RCP, but I got over it as it wasn't true, and Goldi just wanted an excuse to off my account again anyway.

Thanks again. I see Pete Asked if I actually supported Ron Paul and I have indeed, and he would be a better choice then the current two candidates as what he sells as a Constitutionalist heavyweight is just what the doctor ordered for this country at this point in it's history.

The support and respect I have for Ron Paul is serious.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   15:00:51 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: mel_living (#114)

Cute picture of a hob ferret over there, thanks.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-17   15:01:43 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: mel_living (#94)

You are one seriously smokin' hot BABE! Thanks for stopping by! Come back.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-17   18:43:20 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Rotara (#125)

Have you been talking to Laz?

lol...

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-20   11:30:11 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Ferret Mike (#124)

I have a Ferret. Her name is Susie Q. Out of all the pets, she's the one I enjoy watching the most.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-20   11:32:35 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: mel_living (#126)

Have you been talking to Laz?

Regardless, you've gotta love the Laz!

Now, let's get back to you, my darling..;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-20   11:35:54 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Rotara (#128)

How to control ferret odor

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-20   11:38:20 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Rotara (#128)

Laz has gone missing from LP.

He doesn't email me anymore either.

I thought he fell off the planet.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-20   11:40:07 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: mel_living (#130)

Laz has gone missing from LP.

He doesn't email me anymore either.

I thought he fell off the planet.

Honestly, with Laz, that's to be expected.

And usually not a great sign. Let me know when you raise him. (ahaha, punny j/k).

Series.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-20   11:46:28 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Jethro Tull (#129)

How to control ferret odor

I can not come to terms. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-20   11:47:22 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: Rotara, Ferret Mike (#3)

mike, you POS, you *ARE* worse than a f**king BUSHBOT.

What a loser.

Newsflash!

We are going to end up with McPain or O'Bummer, no matter what any of us say or do. Both are equally bad in their own way and both are puppets of whomever is pulling the strings for the NWO.

So why make the resistance movement look bad by resorting to these schoolyard bully tactics against people that happen to disagree with you on a few issues?

It makes it hard for people to want to be on your side.

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Tattoos Schenectady, NY

Critter  posted on  2008-10-20   11:55:07 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: Rotara (#131)

Honestly, with Laz, that's to be expected.

And usually not a great sign. Let me know when you raise him. (ahaha, punny j/k).

Series.

I miss the guy, but he'll come around again. In the meantime, I'll flirt with some one else.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-20   12:05:07 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Critter (#133)

It makes it hard for people to want to be on your side.

Bullshit, just be on America's side.

I don't want any followers here. I already know who is trust worthy and who is worthless.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-20   12:05:25 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: mel_living (#134)

In the meantime, I'll flirt with some one else.

I'd like a try out. ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-20   12:06:11 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Rotara (#135)

I don't want any followers here. I already know who is trust worthy and who is worthless.

So you want to stand pat and not recruit any newcomers?

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Tattoos Schenectady, NY

Critter  posted on  2008-10-20   12:06:43 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Critter (#137)

So you want to stand pat and not recruit any newcomers?

I'm moving forward with those I can trust. The rate of infiltration now goes up every day. Late wakers will have to lead themselves.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-20   12:09:48 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Rotara (#136)

lol...I don't usually post here. It was the title of the thread that got my attention. I'll check in more often...

The air is a bit different here and no Buckeroo.

mel_living  posted on  2008-10-20   12:13:16 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: mel_living (#139)

The air is a bit different here and no Buckeroo.

It's the last forum I'll ever post to, that's for sure.

Traitors don't get a pass, which is different. Right sugar? ;-)

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-20   12:15:40 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: mel_living (#139) (Edited)

no Buckeroo

Awwwwww... you don't like buckie? :)

I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
Tattoos Schenectady, NY

Critter  posted on  2008-10-20   12:15:43 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  



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