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Title: LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate/ Fellow Member With Secret Service (Rumor -> Corn Flake Girl=Ferret Mike?)
Source: El Pee
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=242074&Disp=All
Published: Oct 15, 2008
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2008-10-15 23:53:30 by Rotara
Keywords: None
Views: 3357
Comments: 160

LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate Fellow Member With Secret Service

(#144) "And the Secret Service is in the modus to investigate the remotest possibility of a threat environment endangering someone on their 'A' list of whom they look out for". LP Member, Corn Flake Girl

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances".

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell, Preface to Animal Farm (1946)

"If you're in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech." Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media (1992).

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We must never allow people like Corn Flake Girl to impede or stop us from defending our right to speak, to express, to write and to tell the truth, to be the watchdog, eyes and ears of the people, or simply to share our view, and give fair comment on any subject which involves and affects us as humans, as rightful citizens of this country.

Most of us have fought censorship all of our adult life. To me, the most precious of all rights in this marvelous country called the United States of America is the freedom to think, write and say whatever is on your mind... That freedom also extends to thoughts that are stupid, ignorant or incendiary. No one needs a First Amendment to write about how cute newborn babies are or to publish a recipe for strawberry shortcake. Nobody needs a First Amendment for innocuous or popular points of view. That's point one. Point two is that the majority-you and I-must always protect the right of a minority-even a minority of one-to express the most outrageous and offensive ideas. Only then is total freedom of expression guaranteed."

The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish.

If we suppress ideas we don't like, the proponents of those ideas will probably fester in secret societies and explode in double-plus ungood ways and we will like those results even less. If we allow people to see their ideas, and we ignore them, they've had their chance and they don't have to feel cheated about not getting exposure. Or if we really don't like their ideas and really need to keep them from convincing other people to believe in them, the answer is to tell people why and they'll learn. But you can't just beat people up because you dislike their stupid opinion.

If we go that route, then ignorant, faceless people like "Corn Flake Girl" will use their intimidation and force us to suppress any opinion they don't like, and maybe support opinions we don't like. Then what you get is a society of brutality where it isn't the best ideas that are seen by others, it's only the ideas that have the most vicious thugs to back them up. And it becomes very hard for people to be willing to express any opinion if someone can just pop them one because they say something someone else doesn't like.

As responsible members of LibertyPost, we demand and claim our space on the Internet for free and fair comment, where important national issues and prominent personalities are discussed.

Corn Flake Girl! If you find my posts offensive, you may, at any time, refute me with correct facts and figures and fair comment, in the spirit of free speech, but you will never silence me with threats of intimidation by the Secret Service, or any Law Enforcement. And if you ever do attempt something so stupid, you had better get your facts straight, because I do not tuck tale and run from you, or anyone who attempts to silence me. ~ Murron


Poster Comment:

Corn Flake/Ferret, do you have anything to say for yourself - you demented little goofy girl you?

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#11. To: Rotara (#0)

Get a life.

angle  posted on  2008-10-16   6:38:27 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: angle (#11)

Get a life.

In the true world socialist spirit that deep down electrifies you, I'll take yours. How's that?

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   11:30:55 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rotara, RaisedEyeBrows, Corn Flake Girl (#12)

RaisedEyeBrows is also a separate individual who helped me run the Community Media Center in Eugene that we no longer do downtown. I was often accused of being him too by people.

Eugene, Oregon is a city of extraordinarily high degrees of political efficacy. Anyone thinking I am the only Eugenean spin doctoring the generally liberal paradigm of Eugenean world view online is self deluded.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   18:29:11 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike, Rotara (#18)

" Eugene, Oregon is a city of extraordinarily high degrees of political efficacy lunacy.

There, fixed it.

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-16   21:32:37 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#43)

Sadly, too many Americans feel any show of political efficacy to be lunacy. This is a shame, as you get the best government in a republic like ours with maximum participation of all citizens.

I also submit those who seek to to ethnic cleansing style action here in the United States to purge political opinion they dislike are embracing fascist doctrine. There has been quite the atmosphere of militant intolerance from some in conservative ranks.

They should take care the tiger they try to ride, they could wind up it's dinner.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   21:42:42 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike (#47)

Sadly, too many Americans feel any show of political efficacy to be lunacy. This is a shame, as you get the best government in a republic like ours with maximum participation of all citizens.

My problem is not well intended and good hearted people. The problem is that their actions are visited as tyrannies upon those who disagree. My preference is a very libertarian - you don't intrude upon my liberty and I won't intrude upon yours. I believe in, and support, your right to believe and act as you wish, but only so far as it does not harm another. The kinds of well meaning angst ridden socialist tyrannies espoused by such as is popular in the gulag state of enslaving "love" which is offered up as sound in Eugene I oppose to the very innermost depths of my being. I will be no man's slave and will fight any "well meaning" socialist state Proletarian Slave system - where everyone is equal but some are more equal than others.

Democracy is Two Wolves and a Sheep voting on what's for dinner. (With credit to Benjamin Franklin.)

"The Government Which Governs Best Governs not at all." ~ Henry David Thoreau

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-16   22:32:13 ET  [Locked]   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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