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Published: Jan 4, 2009
Author: Twenty Twelve
Post Date: 2009-01-04 23:58:21 by Old Friend
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I'm not deleting the thread because of the comments already posted.
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#3. To: Old Friend, farmfriend, twentytwelve (#0)
farmfriend said:
this is unacceptable

i dont know if it's 'acceptable' or not, but its very juvenile to say the least, personalizing something and wasting space on such things,. as well as caustic.
i thought i saw someone imply that 'old friend' was a zionist?
as far as the challenge though, i will deny 'mohammed'. I would never deny Christ, (am Catholic) but i dont think murikans should obsess on jew vs arab fight which has gone on forever and will henceforth. and even if 2012 was a muslim, who cares anyway?
i mean, being Catholic, i dont think islam the true religion, but he's free to be whatever he wants to be. he has shown himself to be a stand up person of good character and very well informed, as far as i can see both here and at LP where i first posted w/ him years ago. i dont think i've ever found one point of contention or disagreement with 2012.

Artisan posted on 2009-01-05 0:09:54 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Artisan (#3)
as far as the challenge though, i will deny 'mohammed'. I would never deny Christ,

It wasn't a challenge to you. It was just trying to get an answer out of a duck and weaver.
I agree with Twenty Twelve on most issues that I have seen him post about, except this one point of contention.

Old Friend posted on 2009-01-05 0:13:41 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Old Friend (#5)
I agree with Twenty Twelve on most issues that I have seen him post about, except this one point of contention.

You took it out of context and made an issue of it.

farmfriend posted on 2009-01-05 0:29:52 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#15. To: farmfriend (#14)
You took it out of context and made an issue of it.

It is in context when you consider all the other posts.

Old Friend posted on 2009-01-05 0:30:41 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Old Friend, farmfriend, twentytwelve, christine (#15) (Edited)
You took it out of context and made an issue of it.
It is in context when you consider all the other posts

it's not in context at all, you posted a line and credited it to 2012 when you know he didnt write it. that is deceptive and dishonest and i would say bearing false witness. why did you say 2012 said something that was merely in an article he posted? I suggest you apologize and delete this stupid thread.
www.stjohndc.org /Russian/command/e_command_09.htm

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

We must be sure what a lie is before speaking about the Eighth Commandment, in which the Lord forbids us to slander our neighbors. A lie is a distortion or concealment of the truth. A lie is contrary to Truth, which proceeds from God. A lie proceeds from the devil. Christ calls the devil, the father of lies: When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it, says Christ (John 8:44). The Apostle Paul teaches that a liar works on behalf of the devil. In his Epistle to the Colossians we read: Lie not one to another, seeing that you have put off the old man with his deeds (Colossians 3:9).
The word of God often speaks of the pernicious habit of lying. A lie is a foul blot in a man, yet it is continually in the mouth of the untaught, we read in the Old Testament book of Sirach (Ecclesiasticus 20:24). King Solomon also bears witness to such a truth: Lying lips are abomination to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight (Proverbs 12:22). In another place the Solomon writes: Therefore beware of murmuring, which is unprofitable; and refrain your tongue from backbiting: for there is no word so secret, that shall go for nought: and the mouth that belieth slayeth the soul (Wisdom of Solomon 1:11). Indeed, lies and slander are tantamount to murder, for it is possible to kill not only the physical body, but also the spiritual body. The disposition of a liar, writes the wise Sirach, is dishonorable, and his shame is ever with him (Ecclesiasticus 20:26). The Apostle Paul writes that God punishes the liar: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness (Romans 1:18). Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbor: for we are members one of another (Ephesians 4:25).
Life provides a wide field for lying by reason of faint-heartedness, vainglory, or gain, which last converges with stealing. The vainglorious pharisaical lie proceeds from self-love and is uttered for self-exaltation and condemnation of one's neighbor. Slander is a lie aimed to defame another. In this instance, malice may work together with lying.

Artisan posted on 2009-01-05 0:37:17 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#22. To: Artisan (#19)
it's not in context at all, you posted a line and credited it to 2012 when you know he didnt write it. that is deceptive and dishonest and i would say bearing false witness.

He did say it. It was no lie. You can't say it was a lie.
This thread http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93237&Disp=20#C20
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Old Friend posted on 2009-01-05 0:41:22 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Old Friend (#22)
unless you hadnt been paying attention in that tread and realized he had already posted the article which included that line, and merely re-pasted it to you IN QUOTES. it's pretty clear he didnt say it and never intended to portray it as his own line. that is my take on it.

Artisan posted on 2009-01-05 0:47:03 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#33. To: Artisan (#26)
unless you hadnt been paying attention in that tread and realized he had already posted the article which included that line, and merely re-pasted it to you IN QUOTES. it's pretty clear he didnt say it and never intended to portray it as his own line. that is my take on it.

that's exactly what happened

christine posted on 2009-01-05 0:56:35 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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