i dont know if it's 'acceptable' or not, but its very juvenile to say the least, personalizing something and wasting space on such things,. as well as caustic.
i thought i saw someone imply that 'old friend' was a zionist?
as far as the challenge though, i will deny 'mohammed'. I would never deny Christ, (am Catholic) but i dont think murikans should obsess on jew vs arab fight which has gone on forever and will henceforth. and even if 2012 was a muslim, who cares anyway?
i mean, being Catholic, i dont think islam the true religion, but he's free to be whatever he wants to be. he has shown himself to be a stand up person of good character and very well informed, as far as i can see both here and at LP where i first posted w/ him years ago. i dont think i've ever found one point of contention or disagreement with 2012.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
You know.. there are many posters on this site that I like.. but this stupid "group" thing, gets in the way, of my posting more. When will people learn, it is NOT a group that is evil, but the heart of the person, who just happens to be a "so and so".
Most of you know who Bluesduke is and know him to be one hellva guy.. but guess what.. he is Jewish.. is it his fault, that some people who are also Jewish, do stupid shit.. I have many who are Muslims, on my computer website, and who I would die for.. is it their fault, that some who are also Muslims, do some stupid shit.. Come on people.. It is the heart of each and every one of us, that needs to be addressed, not just because of our faith or our race or our skin color..
he has shown himself to be a stand up person of good character and very well informed, as far as i can see both here and at LP where i first posted w/ him years ago.
Agreed! It was a post to 2012 that got me banned from LP though it was Yukon who called Goldie's attention to it.
i never posted what my posting name was at lp, but it was funny when i left, after she basically banned ron paul supporters. i had long since forgotten about that site and had neevr went back except to retrieve some old research i had made.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
No it is not. The guy has a sword for Israel. But he doesn't condemn anything the muslims do that is wrong. He claims Israel existing in Israel is unbiblical. But I ask for verses and he ignores it. Sounds like a duck to me.
#19. To: Old Friend, farmfriend, twentytwelve, christine (#15)(Edited)
You took it out of context and made an issue of it.
It is in context when you consider all the other posts
it's not in context at all, you posted a line and credited it to 2012 when you know he didnt write it. that is deceptive and dishonest and i would say bearing false witness. why did you say 2012 said something that was merely in an article he posted? I suggest you apologize and delete this stupid thread.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
We must be sure what a lie is before speaking about the Eighth Commandment, in which the Lord forbids us to slander our neighbors. A lie is a distortion or concealment of the truth. A lie is contrary to Truth, which proceeds from God. A lie proceeds from the devil. Christ calls the devil, the father of lies: When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it, says Christ (John 8:44). The Apostle Paul teaches that a liar works on behalf of the devil. In his Epistle to the Colossians we read: Lie not one to another, seeing that you have put off the old man with his deeds (Colossians 3:9).
The word of God often speaks of the pernicious habit of lying. A lie is a foul blot in a man, yet it is continually in the mouth of the untaught, we read in the Old Testament book of Sirach (Ecclesiasticus 20:24). King Solomon also bears witness to such a truth: Lying lips are abomination to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight (Proverbs 12:22). In another place the Solomon writes: Therefore beware of murmuring, which is unprofitable; and refrain your tongue from backbiting: for there is no word so secret, that shall go for nought: and the mouth that belieth slayeth the soul (Wisdom of Solomon 1:11). Indeed, lies and slander are tantamount to murder, for it is possible to kill not only the physical body, but also the spiritual body. The disposition of a liar, writes the wise Sirach, is dishonorable, and his shame is ever with him (Ecclesiasticus 20:26). The Apostle Paul writes that God punishes the liar: For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness (Romans 1:18). Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbor: for we are members one of another (Ephesians 4:25).
Life provides a wide field for lying by reason of faint-heartedness, vainglory, or gain, which last converges with stealing. The vainglorious pharisaical lie proceeds from self-love and is uttered for self-exaltation and condemnation of one's neighbor. Slander is a lie aimed to defame another. In this instance, malice may work together with lying.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
i never posted what my posting name was at lp, but it was funny when i left, after she basically banned ron paul supporters. i had long since forgotten about that site and had neevr went back except to retrieve some old research i had made.
I don't go back. I use the same handle though I have been accused of having posted there under a different handle. I don't like it when people change handles from site to site. I want to know who I'm talking to. Makes me think people have something to hide.
Someone here, I don't remember who, asked if 2012 could be enticed over. I posted a question, "can you be enticed" to 2012 with a link to the post here. Yukon came unglued and turned me into Goldie who banned me for announcing I was posting here and trying to pull posters over. It was not the first time I had talked about other places I posted, including my own forums, with links and information. She used it as an excuse to ban me though. It was all a farce and made me realize just how disingenuous she was.
So what? I have it in for environmentalists but doesn't mean I work for, lobby for or am in any way connected with Big Oil though I've been accused of it. Get over it!!!
it's not in context at all, you posted a line and credited it to 2012 when you know he didnt write it. that is deceptive and dishonest and i would say bearing false witness.
He did say it. It was no lie. You can't say it was a lie.
This thread http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93237&Disp=20#C20
i thought that all my friends here know who i was there, not that anyone gives a shit or that it matters, lol! as far as hiding, its sort of like not giving your name to the grocery store for one of those cards, or having a po box on hyour license. not hiding from them but its simply none of their damn business.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
So what? I have it in for environmentalists but doesn't mean I work for, lobby for or am in any way connected with Big Oil though I've been accused of it. Get over it!!!
lol. I never said he worked for anyone. I said I think he is a closet muslim. Which is ok in this country if you want to be a muslim. You can't force anyone to believe what you believe. The reason I was curious because if he comes at this as a muslim closeted that means you should take his posts in that context.
unless you hadnt been paying attention in that tread and realized he had already posted the article which included that line, and merely re-pasted it to you IN QUOTES. it's pretty clear he didnt say it and never intended to portray it as his own line. that is my take on it.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
The reason I was curious because if he comes at this as a muslim closeted that means you should take his posts in that context.
I think you are stretching. I advocate for men's rights does that mean I'm a closeted man? You are making a mountain of a mole hill and not winning any friends in the process.
im the guy in the tonight show vid, waiting for ron paul outside with all the other kooks. remember? lol ;-D
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
unless you hadnt been paying attention in that tread and realized he had already posted the article which included that line, and merely re-pasted it to you IN QUOTES. it's pretty clear he didnt say it and never intended to portray it as his own line. that is my take on it.
I understand what you are saying now. I guess I have to reread it.
ok, thanks.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#35. To: Old Friend, farmfriend, twentytwelve, christine, indietx, refinersfire (#32)
old friend, in a direct quote, (lol) said:
"Ok your right that was a quote. Sorry I attributed a quote to your words Twenty Twelve"
HOT DAMN! i feel like i actually accomplished something important today now. good night all. , and thanks old friend for your apology to 2012.Christine may now delete this thing. ;-)
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
im the guy in the tonight show vid, waiting for ron paul outside with all the other kooks. remember? lol ;-D
Depends on your definition of remember! LOL! I remember the video and remember that the person who showed it was in the video. Beyond that I'm a blank.
I have a bunch of email addresses that I've garnered from people I have talked to outside the forums and unless I put their web handle on it I have no clue who they are. That's how bad I am. Sad think is I'm worse with faces than I am with names.
i'm terr'ble with names too. i can meet someone, shake their hand , hear their name and completely forget it before i leave talking with them. i need to focus and work on that. can i blame the chemtrails? ;-D
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Yes, that was arguably unfair of me to post a thread about Old Friend.
Evil Zionazi sympathizer or not.
It's perhaps excusable due to that it was done first to him/her by me.
not like anyone really asked me for my opinion
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
#44. To: Old Friend, Artisan, TwentyTwelve, all (#22)
He did say it. It was no lie. You can't say it was a lie.
This thread http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=93237&Disp=20#C20
comment 20
No he didn't say it.
It was from an article.
You're lying.
Stoopid.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
Don't get weak kneed, wudidiz. Why should you apologize to that psychopath and liar, Old Friend? Old Friend has been gleeful about the wanton murder of civilian women and children. He has been caught lying several times. Old Friend deserves everything you said to him and more.
I'm terr'ble with names too. i can meet someone, shake their hand , hear their name and completely forget it before i leave talking with them. i need to focus and work on that.
Me too!
can i blame the chemtrails? ;-D
I like to.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
Don't get weak kneed, wudidiz. Why should you apologize to that psychopath and liar, Old Friend? Old Friend has been gleeful about the wanton murder of civilian women and children. He has been caught lying several times. Old Friend deserves everything you said to him and more.
Yes, of course. It's just that I felt responsible because I posted that other thread about Old Friend and I guess it compelled him to retaliate with one about TwentyTwelve who certainly didn't deserve it but it seems to me as though TT felt the repercussions of my actions and he didn't deserve that. I just want to acknowledge that perhaps my doing so initiated the sequence of events and although I disagree with Old Friend, fair is fair. I'm speaking about particularly the posting of the thread not the contents of it.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
I'm speaking about particularly the posting of the thread not the contents of it.
Okay - good on you for clearing up the confusion I had - and I'm glad you still stand by the content of your posts to Old Friend because he is deserving of criticism for the "sick" attitudes and lack of compassion he has revealed today.
""I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology...It's importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda...Although this science will be diligently studied, it will be rigidly confined to the governing class. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated." Bertrand Russel, Eugenicist and Logician
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
And there would be nothing wrong with you being Muslim and nothing at all wrong with the Islamic faith. It is just as viable and legitamate a religion as Christianity.
A K A Stone is just simply wrong and bigotted to slam so many people as being villians and evil.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
I am not Muslim nor am I connected to any Muslim Group.
A digressing observation:
Isn't it interesting that in today's American society and through the pure power of cultural indoctrination, media propaganda, and social steering, both covert and overt, that being a Muslim or, even, being alleged to be a Muslim or merely associated therewith has become a widely employed disparaging characterization--a smear, an insult--to the extent that one on the receiving end of said accusation, attempt at slander and intimidation, and although the derision be abjectly lacking any factual basis, feels compelled to react in defense.
Behold the power.
AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.
And there would be nothing wrong with you being Muslim and nothing at all wrong with the Islamic faith. It is just as viable and legitamate a religion as Christianity.
What you said. Yes.
BTW, do you still support that Israel ass kissing socialist?
AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.
And there would be nothing wrong with you being Muslim and nothing at all wrong with the Islamic faith. It is just as viable and legitamate a religion as Christianity.
A K A Stone is just simply wrong and bigotted to slam so many people as being vilians and evil.
I just wanted to set the record straight with Old Friend.
I am very upset with the Zionists for what the Zionists are doing, regardless of my views of the Muslims.
Any human with just a bit of common sense should be upset with what the Zionists are doing in Gaza right now. The Zionists have kept the Palestinians in a disgusting prison camp for to long.
I am not Muslim nor am I connected to any Muslim Group.
A digressing observation:
Isn't it interesting that in today's American society and through the pure power of cultural indoctrination, media propaganda, and social steering, both covert and overt, that being a Muslim or, even, being alleged to be a Muslim or merely associated therewith has become a widely employed disparaging characterization--a smear, an insult--to the extent that one on the receiving end of said accusation, attempt at slander and intimidation, and although the derision be abjectly lacking any factual basis, feels compelled to react in defense.
Behold the power.
...and people like Old Friend believe that if you are against the Zionists than you must be a Muslim or Muslim supporter.
A K A Stone is a deeply hateful and conflicted individual. I find him hard to stomach.
I am repulsed by violently expressed hatred for various scapegoat targets of his choosing.
He does not understand one of the most fundimental truths of dealing with humanity of any sort, which is that blanket condemnations whereby every individual of a group is villified stains and stinks up the hater, not the hated.
I have met Muslims I dislike, much as I have met Christians or Jews I loath. But I also have dear friends who are Islamic, Christain and Jewish who are honest, work hard and care about friends and family.
It is time to stop trying to steal the social and economic well being of people in a blanket, condemn all manner.
Anyone that does that is a fool, and is not using his or her mind in a way that follows the human heart.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
A K A Stone is a deeply hateful and conflicted individual. I find him hard to stomach.
I am repulsed bys violently expressed hatred for various scapegoat targets of his choosing.
He does not understand one of the most fundimental truths of dealing with humanity of any sort, which is that blanket condemnations whereby every individual of a group is villified stains and stinks up the hater, not the hated.
I have met Muslims I dislike, much as I have met Christians or Jews I loath. But I also have dear friends who are Islamic, Christain and Jewish who are honest, work hard and care about friends and family.
It is time to stop trying to steal the social and economic well being of people in a blanket, condemn all manner.
Anyone that does that is a fool, and is not using his or her mind in a way that follows the human heart.
Isn't it interesting that in today's American society and through the pure power of cultural indoctrination, media propaganda, and social steering, both covert and overt, that being a Muslim or, even, being alleged to be a Muslim or merely associated therewith has become a widely employed disparaging characterization--a smear, an insult--to the extent that one on the receiving end of said accusation, attempt at slander and intimidation, and although the derision be abjectly lacking any factual basis, feels compelled to react in defense.
Behold the power.
very astute observation,. well said.
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Glory to God in the highest, and Peace to His people on Earth. "I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him" George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
I have known wudidiz for a long time and have always found wudidz to be very honest.
Thank you TT, that's very kind of you.
Hey, I didn't know you were a Muslim!
Just kidding.
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
I am seeking a little cheap entertainment but can't find it.
You found it now you degenerate piece of shit*.
*I'm on vasts' bozo list ;-)
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
"It is like a trance. So what can break a trance? The only thing that can break the trance is the light of truth." ~ Canadian Philosopher John McMurtry as he comments on the psychological warfare that has afflicted us all
